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can someone please sticky the 3 roms and kernels?
Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.
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Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.
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Better idea
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Or put everything in the wiki. And sticky the wiki link for the epic.
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We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.
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We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.
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I love that idea.
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panthar said:
Probably not a good idea - it will be a sticky mess once we are up to 10 roms and 8 kernels. A better idea might be to write a single post that lists/summarizes available roms/kernels. There are stickies like that in other device development forums and it works well and only adds one sticky.
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+1 however it requires smeone to be the op and constantly upkeep it
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We could move them out of development and put ROMs and kernels into their own sub-forum.
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I don't know if you guys have ever used development forums for other well maintained and strongly represented devices on XDA, but the development forum is for ROMs and Kernels. So moving ROMs and Kernels out doesn't make any sense.
Usually what happens as far as having a quickly accessible list of ROMs and Kernels, instead of stickying them, There is one thread made which contains links to each of the ROM threads and that thread is updated as new ROMs and Kernels are made.
The biggest issue right now is that there are too many threads (including this one ) that simply don't belong in this forum. I don't know who the mods for this forum are, but I'm hoping that they will become more active in enforcing the sub-forum content rules.
If you guys want a look at how a well-run and maintained device development sub-forum should be, checkout the hero forums here at XDA. They weren't always great, but they've gotten to a great place.
Our phone is also very young in the community cycle, so I'm things will get better as the goes on and more people get this phone.
akijikan said:
I don't know if you guys have ever used development forums for other well maintained and strongly represented devices on XDA, but the development forum is for ROMs and Kernels. So moving ROMs and Kernels out doesn't make any sense.
Usually what happens as far as having a quickly accessible list of ROMs and Kernels, instead of stickying them, There is one thread made which contains links to each of the ROM threads and that thread is updated as new ROMs and Kernels are made.
The biggest issue right now is that there are too many threads (including this one ) that simply don't belong in this forum. I don't know who the mods for this forum are, but I'm hoping that they will become more active in enforcing the sub-forum content rules.
If you guys want a look at how a well-run and maintained device development sub-forum should be, checkout the hero forums here at XDA. They weren't always great, but they've gotten to a great place.
Our phone is also very young in the community cycle, so I'm things will get better as the goes on and more people get this phone.
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I wasn't suggesting moving them out of development. I was suggesting a sub-forum within development for finished ROM's and kernels. The regular dev threads that focus on individual features(root scripts, brightness tweaks, VooDoo, over-clocking, etc) would stay where they are.
Like this-
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/android-2-1-74/
newkidd said:
Or put everything in the wiki. And sticky the wiki link for the epic.
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If anyone gets a wiki or bible going let me know and I will sticky it.
We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
jc2470 said:
We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
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Wouldn't they still need to be in the development forum..since most are a works in progress ? I could see having a sticky with links and screen shots of them but they would have to be locked down otherwise they would get cluttered up with all of the questions being asked about them..
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
I'll bump it now. Guy tried to put together a sticky like this, but never got stickied.
Well can't find it now.
Nvm got it
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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I had a professor once that told me "clutter is a sign of brilliance". So finding anything in the dev forum would make you a Mensa candidate.
Swyping...please read slowly!
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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But where would the feedback go though... and all those "how do i turn on my phone so i can install this rom" questions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835928
im trying to gather resources to make a website devoted to presenting ROM's in a easy to use way. check it out. thanks
so ive been pondering on this all day and this is my conclusion:
how about the development section actually being a developement section, and all "what modem should i use?" or "will this work the the i900 kernal?" or the "when is the updated version coming out?" could go in the q&a section where they belong, what we need are more mods that are a little more active in moving threads and deleting unnecessary posts out of the development section, can you imaging how much more smooth our devs could work if they didnt have to sort through 20 posts to find one that might help them with the actually development.
oh and one more thing, that captivate bible thing, that was an excellent idea, would have done a lot of great things and helped many people, but no one goes through and updates it, what a waste :/
I found this a while back. I found out quite a-bit about our phones from it...Seems to me since this is already up and running..maybe the owner wouldn't mind adding a section for custom Roms and maybe the themes as well ? Wouldn't hurt to ask them anyway..I did just a few minutes ago
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The easiest way is to look for the threads Labled {Rom}? This has been brought up over and over again. It tried a few times but never went anywhere as most at to busy to keep the roms on more then one website. As for the questions being asked they belong in the thread for the rom they use and not in Q&A.
I think he was talking about all the other questions in the development section. What Im talking about is something like just roms in a section, if u want to ask questions or talk about rom fine but be only under that rom thread, U would have a Section Clean of all kinds of post and other development stuff, Have a certain format for titles in the rom section, where it would be uniform. I know there still under development but it would be clean, and easy to find.
I like this idea. It should be formatted sort of like DG's thread. All questions goes on that thread for development and on the first page the links would point to the ROM section where people can download the roms they need look at screen shots.
Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
Thanks, + 1 sticky
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I second that sticky request please. Great piece of work!
Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Sure we might expect too much, but I think we should at least give them some guidance to flashing new roms. Since there is so much information out there it can be quite overwhelming to newcomers, which is why I tried to summarize and compile the best information I know of here.
I think your ideas of compiling themes into a one stop shop would be awesome if you kept it updated. I personally would just start a new thread and divide it into the most popular Roms out at the time, and paste links to whichever ones worked for that rom under the heading.
Gave you a 'thanks' and, AMEN!
Stickied, thanks for your contribution
very good useful information
Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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To be honest, I have never flashed cog so I am not sure. But here is what I ALWAYS do, and everything works out for the different roms i have flashed.
1. Backup Apps and App data with TiBackup (not system data!!!)
2. Put phone in download mode
3. Open odin3 on computer
4. Plug phone in to computer, wait for odin to say "added"
5. Press start and wait to see if a blue line starts to apear on the phone
6. If the blue line appears wait for odin to finish, if it does not unplug the phone and hope it has not bricked. See the bottom of the OP if your phone is bricked.
7. Once rebooted, use one click root to root phone
8. Open droid explorer and move the CWM update.zip (see attachment to this post) to your phone as well as the rom you are flashing
9. Boot into recovery and "reinstall packages" usually twice until you get into CWM recovery
10. navigate to install zip from sd > choose zip from sd > (rom zip) > yes
11. once done click go back > reboot phone
12. If it asks you to convert data and partition click the first choice, something like convert all data and files, wait for it to finish
13. enjoi!
*NOTE* this assumes you have the correct drivers installed on your computer and that you have tested to make sure they work. I am not responsible if you follow these instructions and fubar your phone.
Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
PhnXFire said:
Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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I am not Canadian and haven't used a Canadian device, so I would not be able to tell you. Sorry.
It is what it is
I'm a bit torn by the thread topic, but I do understand. What lead me to this thread was the realization that I was prohibited from submitting a post on the Android Dev forum. It would have been my first post, as I had been testing and writing down the results of my experiences with flashing ROMs that are currently offered. After doing some reading, I found that a minimum of 9 posts were required before posting priviledges available for the dev forum. A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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Ok so I have to ask, did you even read this thread?
The sole purpose of this thread was to guide new users to flashing new roms, that way they would stop making new threads in the captivate general section asking other users which rom is best.
No where did I mention anything about the development section or new members posting in the wrong section.
If you can't find things with search then try altering your search methods, ie change the "sort results by" drop down box to Relevancy. Often times I just do a google search of "xda (whatever i am looking for)" without the quotes and find what I am looking for in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you feel like the forum is unorganized, do something about it like I did, don't just sit on your ass. Start a thread with all of the relevant .apk's you think need to be compiled while allowing other users to contribute or don't complain.
I did, but it sounds like many threads I've read in the past over and over again. I could have swore I've read this topic several times here, but perhaps I am mistaken. I follow several forums here at XDA and it is extremely possible my frustrations lie from reading this topic in multiple locations, not just within the Captivate section.
After searching around, I realize that there are not as many threads like this within the Captivate section as I had thought. My apologies for coming off wrong; however,
I do feel like some of the repositories here are disorganized, and have even tried mentioning it, but my thread got absolutely NO response, and it was in what I thought would be the correct section (asking about a list of apks in the Themes and Apps Section). Ah, oh well. Guess my fuse has been a little short recently. I wish I had more free time than just the 15 minutes here and there. I REALLY want to work on sorting the WiKi, but I'm married, so I've ALWAYS got other things to do.
Now that I feel I've completely torn the thread off topic, I'm going back to work
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to be overly critical of the thread. Simply wanted to express how both sides of the argument can be seen as valid and relevant. I've seen harsh criticisms from seasoned contributors as well as inconsiderate inquiries from new posters that indicate no effort to find an answer prior to posting. No offense intented and thanks for your contribution to the community.
Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Edited title.
Hello everyone.
That's my issue may not be the right place, but this is where I find the most relevant, since for this section.
I think for some time the number of threads are increasing enormously for new ROM, which is fine because it shows that the community is very active) but many of the Roma are found to be the same base or from ports of other devices, and there are so many with names that look alike or have nothing to do with the content (I will not name to avoid any controversy and stay in a general term) that we end by not knowing what exactly that is.
So I think it should be revamped a little with all that can be sub-sections by Dev ports or Roma, ways to try to eclaicir section and avoid ending up finally with questions about a thread that has nothing to do with this thread Rom.
That's what I feel for a very short time and I think it would be good for both dev and users of éclaicir things.
When do you think??
Arma, a user begins to consider warning from the time I practice android flash device.
This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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Or subforums? So the DHD Dev subforum has a couple more subforums within it (one for ported ROMs, one for ROMS built on a native base)? That's how I read it anyway.
Sorry for my bad english (google translation), but yes I think it would be although it is organized by several sub-forums, for example, the ports of other phones, stock rom, rom MluI, or do that every dev its own sub-forums, and finally they are ideas, see what might appeal without being overly burdensome for devs who already have enough to do.
If someone else with ideas on how to build the threads?
The discussion is now open.
I think people would over see things and it would be a mess then a dev gets a new device and his sub forum is left behind and annoy like sticky threads
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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I totally agree to that!!
Agreed. Either that, or we need someone to keep an updated sticky again. But a "Utilities" section, for radios, RILs, and recoveries would be a good idea also.
fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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And not to forget kernel, RIL and RADIO
Noob playing catch-up, I installed Revolution 6.3.1 with sense 3.0 recently and am wondering if there are newer ROMs to install. I'm enjoying the thrill of the ride and just want to keep up with the latest and greatest. But with all the threads and discussions going on I'm not really looking to read through every discussion board and every thread to find the appropriate topic...if someone could gently point me in the right direction I will willingly follow.
thanks
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Please close.
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Not a good first post. Anyway, go to the development section. That's where all the ROMs are. Don't ask which one is best, unless you like to be abused.
A good hint might be, look at the ROM threads with the most posts and the most recent posts. 5 different people might recommend 5 different ROMs. Admitting you aren't going to do the needed reading and searching isn't a very good first post. Because if you did you would notice that these threads get closed quickly.
i made it in before close!!!! haha
Please understand this is not a Rom support site. This is a Development site. We are here to work on active development.