Nokia/Android - General Questions and Answers

Here is a question that came up with a couple of friends and me. What is the possibility of getting one of the new Nokia WP8 devices to rum Android? I know there is no way that it would be as easy as flashing a ROM but I'm sure the master minds here at XDA somewhere have had the same idea.
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WP is an OS, and your device's hardware configuration was done in accordance with this fact that it's gonna use it. A whole new OS, Android, won't run on it because of that.
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[Q] [q] Running windows phone 7

Hi, I was scouring Google and I wasn't able to find my answer so I will ask here. Is there any way to run the windows phone 7 operating system on an android device? Particularly a mytouch 4g? I don't want to switch operating systems but it would be nice to be able to play with it occasionally. If there isn't a current method, does anybody know of any progress this might have, thank you
In a nutshell:No. Why? Because Windows Phone isn't open source. It be illegal running WP7 on an android dedicated device. Android is only on WM and iOS phones because android is open source, so basically you can do whatever you want to it. Do you understand the words I am trying to put into your mind sir?
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Ah okay, what a shame because it really does look like an interesting operating system though not something I wanted to commit to by buying a new device
gabrialxue said:
Ah okay, what a shame because it really does look like an interesting operating system though not something I wanted to commit to by buying a new device
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Imho WP7 is just abunch of hype..Its still a premature OS missing some crucial features.. iPhone for dummies basically..-__-
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Android

Anyway to get android in these phones?
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Why not just buy an Android phone? Plus the new ones have better hardware than the WP7 phones. That's an odd request.
The straight answer to your question is you can't do it.
Answer: no
Take your Windows Phone 7, put it up for sale...
Get a Android phone and go to the Android fourms.
If there was a way to dual boot with Android, I'm sure by a simple search you would find it. Assuming that you didn't do that (there was a post about this subject just yesterday)
That sucks. Why is it the hd2 can, yet wp7 cant? I understand there on different operating systems, but developers cant make a duel booting device like the hd2?
Wasnt the hd7 tinkered with to run android awhile back?
Sorry i dont browse this section of XDA.
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The HD2 was a winmo 6.5 device, the hacking community already had years of experience with that OS. WP7 isn't a year old yet, that's pretty easy to understand.
Like DavidinCT says, sell your phone, buy Android and use their forums.
roidsmith said:
That sucks. Why is it the hd2 can, yet wp7 cant? I understand there on different operating systems, but developers cant make a duel booting device like the hd2?
Wasnt the hd7 tinkered with to run android awhile back?
Sorry i dont browse this section of XDA.
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The HD2 was based on a completely different Windows Mobile 6.5. WP7 is still yet to receive a HSPL bootloader that allow custom roms to be installed or a MAGLDR-like system for dualboot, while HSPL for Windows Mobile was achieved long ago. The HD7 android is still in a pre-alpha stage and the average modder on XDA would probably brick his device trying to flash it. Seriously, if a dual boot was released, it would be all over these forums. I know it may be hard, but next time, scroll up, find the white textbox with a large yellow magnifying glass, type in Android on WP7, and watch the magic happen.
Back then, when hd2 just came out...there werent really that much smartphones with 4.3in screens and 1ghz android phones...so there was a lot of interest on developing android for the hd2...but you got plenty of android phone now with that kind of hardware and better...like everyone else said...sell the winmo phone and buy an android phone...
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Windows 7

I've looked on other threads and have seen that some phones have three diffrent topics, winmo6.5 , win7, and android development threads my question is there a way to make a win 7 Rom for the inspire?
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No...and why would you want that? Lol
I've seen some win 7 themes but that's about it.
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
Was just wondering I love my android phones was thinking of checking out Windows on my next phone
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jjpeasl said:
Was just wondering I love my android phones was thinking of checking out Windows on my next phone
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If you like Android you'll hate Wm. It sucks.
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Maybe but you'll never know unless u give it a shot.
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jjpeasl said:
Was just wondering I love my android phones was thinking of checking out Windows on my next phone
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I had a winmo phone before i bought a captivate (predecessor to the Inspire). I wouldn't go back. But, to each his own
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Maybe but you'll never know unless u give it a shot.
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You're more than welcome to give it a shot. But the point you are missing is that windows phone is inferior to android. The Devs already know what windows phone is all about. That is why they did not waste their time to port it. Not to mention it is not open source. Porting it violates copyright infringements. If you really want to explore that OS then go buy one and you will soon return to android.
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You're more than welcome to give it a shot. But the point you are missing is that windows phone is inferior to android. The Devs already know what windows phone is all about. That is why they did not waste their time to port it. Not to mention it is not open source. Porting it violates copyright infringements. If you really want to explore that OS then go buy one and you will soon return to android.
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first if its a copyright infringement how do they have the right to port it at all, even if a device comes with it any modifications to their coding would fall as an infringment i think, and they have ported it for phones like the htc tilt2 witch comes stock with winmo6.1 i think but theres a thread for windows 7 over there, the question is can it be done weather or not i go back to android has no matter to the question i asked.
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first if its a copyright infringement how do they have the right to port it at all, even if a device comes with it any modifications to their coding would fall as an infringment i think, and they have ported it for phones like the htc tilt2 witch comes stock with winmo6.1 i think but theres a thread for windows 7 over there, the question is can it be done weather or not i go back to android has no matter to the question i asked.
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No it cant be done. The reason it was dont on the phons you mentioned is due to being WM phones to start with. Android running on them is a hack to run off a partition setup.
Technically I don't think they had the right to port it on the older windows mobile phones like the tilt2 or the HD2. Windows mobile and windows phone are 2 totally separate operating systems. I am no expert on this though. But it was the excitement of the moment back then and on those forums it was allowed.
Please understand that XDA operates in alot of grey areas. Microsoft knows what is done here and if asked we will pull anything as we have done before when they have asked.

1 Samsung Focus, 2 Questions

Hello, Xda-Developers forum
I am new here, but here goes..
Alright, I hate asking about this phone here, but I have the Samsung Focus (1.3), bought it from a friend for $12, So it was a pretty well investment on my part, BUT I'm into messing around with things, and I've recently installed Magldr (2.00) and flashed the Windows 7.8 Phone OS to it, BUT I had a very notorious question about it.
Question # 1)
Is it possible to find a rom, or even make a rom to put Android on this Phone?
Any Android version is fine with me as well. I just want to see what all I can do if I wanted with this phone.
Question # 2)
I can't seem to find very many roms just by googling them for this phone. Does anyone know anywhere I should actually look?
Regards,
Lemonboi5
I found this.. don't know much about WP7 and hacking, had a focus myself at one point but didn't do much with it before I sold it to a friend
http://www.landofdroid.com/2011/sam...ing-magldr-could-this-open-up-more-to-follow/
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Thanks gagdude,
I've seen that page before, but I was wondering if anything has been done with it since haha. I would love to see android on this phone, As the specs would fully back it xD
Hmmm... also found this
http://www.ehow.com/how_12191756_run-android-samsung-focus.html
Not sure if its real or not
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Thanks again,
but yeah It's not actually for samsung focus wp7
It's for Windows Mobile phones

Samsungs new open source OS

i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.
I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.
Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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friedje said:
Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS :
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?
bada+meego
yuck
android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.
unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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gszabi said:
The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.

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