Does this phone ship with unlocked boot loaders? And also who ever has this phone, how does it compare to the Photon that came out 2011? That phone is hella laggy and it was from the beginning. And is it better than the Epic 4G Touch?
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The phone shipped with locked bootloader, but it unlockable via Motorola Unlock Tools.
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Nice, how does the phone compare to the previous Photon? Or even to the E4GT?
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Correction: the phone ships with an unlockable bootloader. You have to use Motorola tool to unlock it and agree to void your warranty.
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Voiding the warranty is automatic when you root your phone. So other than that how do you like the phone?
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Voiding the warranty is automatic when you root your phone. So other than that how do you like the phone?
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I love this phone. And what I meant by voiding the warranty, is that you basically tell Motorola that I'm voiding my warranty and they are able to keep track of that voided warranty.
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Good to know. Does the Photon Q lag at all like the previous Photon? Or is it pretty fluid?
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I have both photons. I don't see the lag that you are referring to.
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The Photon that came out last year is laggy. It's slow to respond a lot of times. It's not fast and fluid. I'm not talking about data speeds just the phone itself seemed laggy, even other photon's I've played with in stores. They're slow.
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The Photon that came out last year is laggy. It's slow to respond a lot of times. It's not fast and fluid. I'm not talking about data speeds just the phone itself seemed laggy, even other photon's I've played with in stores. They're slow.
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I have both phones also and the orig photon was alittle slow at things but motoroa has got the bugs worked out i would say. Phone is nice and fast stock i dont have any of the problems i had with orig like bluetooth dropping off then on or it just cutting off gps stays connected havent had to shut it off to get it to find a signal again
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I have both phones also and the orig photon was alittle slow at things but motoroa has got the bugs worked out i would say. Phone is nice and fast stock i dont have any of the problems i had with orig like bluetooth dropping off then on or it just cutting off gps stays connected havent had to shut it off to get it to find a signal again
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weird, I never had any of those problems with the original. I think the animations give it that slowed down look too. right now I'm running mine my original photon completely stock and locked because of the 4G. and it runs great. quick as hell.
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weird, I never had any of those problems with the original. I think the animations give it that slowed down look too. right now I'm running mine my original photon completely stock and locked because of the 4G. and it runs great. quick as hell.
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Ya i think the photon just had some good build some ok builds some decent builds and some spare parts builds
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Related
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/05/13/does-custom-rom-support-affect-the-buying-process/
....just to keep a eye out
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This has been known for a while .
I don't see this being a problem for very long especially on htc, considering that phones like the holiday will more then likely have international "brothers/sisters", that means there will be dev support worldwide working to break open a phones boot loader. I would assume the only reason it hasn't been done to the atrix, is because honestly the phone is a flop. Blur put a bad taste in everyones mouth and not alot of people want to mess with moto.
If you hit up other htc phone boards here on xda there are literally hundreds of developers working on htc phones. I have said it before where there is a will there is a way.
Atrix is no flop
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Locked bootloaders do much harm to the phones' sales. I like the sense rom but the default stock one comes with a lot of bloat and poor battery performance. I flashed the dilligaf's V2 rom and my phone now flies. When the manufacturers cannot unleash the full potential of the phone, why the hell do they have to lock their bootloaders for?
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That's not what the saturated dev section for the atrix tells me.
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Atrix is no flop
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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HAHAHA! That's funny sh*t.
Anyways... If the manufacturers and Phone companies would actually leave the phones open, we wouldn't have this issue.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to do...build a recovery image right into the phone. If something screws up, they is a keypress sequence that would force install factory firmware. Bam...No more brick, and start over. I know I have reference the PSP in several other posts, but they did it right. Maybe the phone manufacturers should take a hint.
There is a PSP dev that goes by Dark_Alex... He created the "Despertar del Cementerio." This translates to "Wake the Dead." This was a service battery and memory stick combo that would literally UNBRICK your PSP. I actually have one, and have purposely killed the power during a firmware update to test it. And it works! Anyways, the point is...this is VERY possible with these phones, no one has done it yet tho.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Haha, I LOLed at work when I read this.
ATT seems to have something to do with this. If I hadn't been able to root my inspire I'd probably have returned it. Too much bloat. Bloated on a phone like that males it even worse (also I never liked MOTO)
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Well if its not rootable and cannot access recovery,then I don't bother. I was walking thru fryys when I saw the inspire and knew I had to get it. Trading my sgs vibrant+$150 for a new inspire sounded great to me. But I didn't think if the bootloader was unlocked or not. Luckily,it was. I got Lucky on this one
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willing to trade my ATRIX 2 for a HTC inspire
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willing to trade my ATRIX 2 for a HTC inspire
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As someone who owns both, I would recommend you stick it out and wait for the magic of an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs to unlock the full potential of this phone and its dual-core CPU.
Compared to my Inspire, the battery life, lighter weight, better call quality, better antenna, and what seems to be crisper screen make my move from one to the other worth it.
I came from an Inspire, don't trade for it.... I love HTC phones, but I had a ton of oddities, with it.
There are a ton of things that can be done with out an unlocked bootloader, even ROMs, this phone has only been out a little over 60 days, hang tight there will be a ton of great things for this phone.
If you must trade for a mid line phone think about a used sgs, or an Infuse. If you really want a TOP end then go for an unlocked galaxy nexus.
Otherwise hang tight, and use bloat freezer, for the bloat on this phone, it is not bad for a stock build. If you don't like Blur, go get ADW launcher or Go Launcher Pro, or something like that.
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willing to trade my ATRIX 2 for a HTC inspire
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Don't do it big daddy!
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Yeah! This phone is a beast even without custom ROM'S.
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willing to trade my ATRIX 2 for a HTC inspire
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I hope you're asking for cash on top. The Atrix 2 is a far better device compared to the Inspire. Not to say the Inspire is a bad device, but the Atrix 2 has far better specs compared to the Inspire. Good luck.
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Don't do it.
I can't say that I'm jumping ship, but since my Atrix 2 is stuck in a bootloop and probably will be until the bootloader gets unlocked, I just ordered an Inspire from GreenCells to get me by in the meantime. As soon as the Atrix gets unf*cked though, you can bet I'll be switching back.
I've had so many f**king problems with this thing it insane. I've exchanged this phone 3 times at best buy cause of the same problems and once w/ AT&T. I don't know if I can deal with the same problems again. Such as screen scrambling "like snow on a TV" also random reboots, just to name a few. there are a lot more things I'm having go wrong.
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willing to trade my ATRIX 2 for a HTC inspire
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Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
BIGDADDYXXL said:
I've had so many f**king problems with this thing it insane. I've exchanged this phone 3 times at best buy cause of the same problems and once w/ AT&T. I don't know if I can deal with the same problems again. Such as screen scrambling "like snow on a TV" also random reboots, just to name a few. there are a lot more things I'm having go wrong.
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Instead of choosing the inspire and you don't like the ATRIX 2 then see if they'll exchange for the sgs2. I had a nexus s they exchanged for the ATRIX 2. It could happen....maybe.....
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I have a question... I have a Stock Atrix2, its doing all kinds of Crazy stuff, Im pissed off now, they announce a fix for the verizon Droid Slopzor, its been out 15th the time Atrx 2 is out. Its also suffering from many of the same things. I think the Atrix 2 should have been fixed or both at the same time.
Question: Does XDA have a Native Mail app similar to what Motorolas Native app can do, has a select all, and undo tab, dumping trash is a pleasure or in any folder..one click your done.?
I have an inspire I will trade right now I also have an atrix 1 love it been wanting a atrix 2
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give me both a u gotta deal
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LOL!!!
I wouldnt trade ya my blackberry bold for a Inspire!
Girlfriend had one, you think the Atrix 2 has problems! Trust me you going in the opposite direction looking for a good phone, but good luck!
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LOL!!!
I wouldnt trade ya my blackberry bold for a Inspire!
Girlfriend had one, you think the Atrix 2 has problems! Trust me you going in the opposite direction looking for a good phone, but good luck!
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I had the Inspire. Except for the crappy battery life, it was a decent phone.
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I'm calling at&t today see if they'll send me a sgs2. this thing has rebooted itself 3 times since I turned it on at 7 this morning and its only 11. wtf
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Have you tried a battery pull? Sometimes it works.
BIGDADDYXXL said:
I'm calling at&t today see if they'll send me a sgs2. this thing has rebooted itself 3 times since I turned it on at 7 this morning and its only 11. wtf
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they may offer you another atrix 2. i wouldnt hesitate to do it if they dont give you a different phone. lemons do happen although very rare but it does happen.
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they may offer you another atrix 2. i wouldnt hesitate to do it if they dont give you a different phone. lemons do happen although very rare but it does happen.
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Unless you got your phone online or over the phone, they aren't going to send you another phone, let alone an upgrade. If you got the Atrix 2 from a store, you're going to have to take it back to the store. If you've had the phone for more than a month, they will tell you to call warranty exchange to get a refurbished replacement, but not before spending copious amounts of time troubleshooting first. If you have been with AT&T for a long time, without any shutoffs, or a late payment history, you can try the "I'll cancel my service" routine, which usually doesn't work, because you will still have pay an ETF. Basically, they own you until your contract expires. It sucks, but that's how AT&T rolls.
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I currently have an atrix 4g, OG, and I've become real interested in the skyrocket. It has really awesome specs. Do you guys like your phone? I'm going to pick up a skyrocket in a few weeks and would like to know what you guys think of the phone. Do you have a good dev community and support?
Let me know what you guys think!
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Yes its a great phone! LTE and everything definitely go pick it up. When this thing is overclocked it just flies. And we are getting official ics hopefully before the end if this month. We have tons of great devs as well.
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Yes its a great phone! LTE and everything definitely go pick it up. When this thing is overclocked it just flies. And we are getting official ics hopefully before the end if this month. We have tons of great devs as well.
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Sweet! I'm stoked to get this, gotta get a car first, then this bad boy. Still in high school I considered the s3 but I like the soft touch buttons on the atrix and the skyrocket had em plus I like the bigger screen and lte and better processor. Thanks for the quick reply!
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Anthony04x said:
Sweet! I'm stoked to get this, gotta get a car first, then this bad boy. Still in high school I considered the s3 but I like the soft touch buttons on the atrix and the skyrocket had em plus I like the bigger screen and lte and better processor. Thanks for the quick reply!
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Forgot to mention that we can flash roms for the T-Mobile galaxy s2 since they are so similar. And a lot of their devs usually bring some of their stuff to our phone blindly developing it so we really have a lot of developers.
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Yes its a great phone! LTE and everything definitely go pick it up. When this thing is overclocked it just flies. And we are getting official ics hopefully before the end if this month. We have tons of great devs as well.
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I agree with bacon... however dude post your question in Q&A will get a lot more results....
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And uhm if you don't like glossy finishes then get a black one. They're naturally bigger.
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And uhm if you don't like glossy finishes then get a black one. They're naturally bigger.
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once u go black u cant go back
on the op's question, depends on price, if u get the sr for cheap, do it or wait and c what the s3 price is
+1 SIII
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Skyrocket is a great phone, but I would get the SIII in a few weeks. Superior phone, and will probably have a ton of DEV support.
I went from the Atrix 4G to the Skyrocket for an upgrade and it was the best choice I ever made. No lie.
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If you dont want the SIII then the skyrocket is the next best thing, there isnt a phone out there thats better in my opinion.
Thanks guys for all the feedback. Definitely gonna pick this bad boy up soon
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Haha I just replaced my atrix4G 2 days ago for a skyrocket.... Huge upgrade lol. The screen, its amazing compared to that crappy pantile display that I thought looked good
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I LOVE this phone. No problems. Seriously, it's a great piece of hardware. I think by time my contract comes up next year, it still will feel fresh.
Add me to the list of those who recently "upgraded" from Moto Atrix to S2SR. Atrix was a good phone, but it had a serious restart/reboot problem no matter if I was on a call, texting, listening to music or watching movies/videos. I eventually sold it a month or two ago for a used SR with Otterbox Defender case. Cost of SR - profit from Atrix = $110 out of pocket. I'd say that was worth it...haha!
Anyway, for the S2SR, my only complaint is how often I lose bluetooth and wi-fi (at home) or 4G for data. I'm constantly re-connecting to my headset or checking the "Use Packet Data" box in Mobile Network. I keep a Settings shortcut on my home screen because I lose connection daily...gets annoying.
So do you guys use ODIN frequently? What is a modem? Where does unlocking the boot loader come into place? For the atrix, ODIN is RSD and we usually never use it, its either fast boot or cwm. and we just have kernals and roms and basebands when needed. Sorry for all the questions. I don't want to brick it when I get it
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So do you guys use ODIN frequently? What is a modem? Where does unlocking the boot loader come into place? For the atrix, ODIN is RSD and we usually never use it, its either fast boot or cwm. and we just have kernals and roms and basebands when needed. Sorry for all the questions. I don't want to brick it when I get it
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Modem=radio=baseband
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Anthony04x said:
So do you guys use ODIN frequently? What is a modem? Where does unlocking the boot loader come into place? For the atrix, ODIN is RSD and we usually never use it, its either fast boot or cwm. and we just have kernals and roms and basebands when needed. Sorry for all the questions. I don't want to brick it when I get it
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I love Odin, but I usually only use it to go back to stock or to root my phone. Otherwise CWM is your friend!
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If you don't wanna spend money then it is worth it otherwise there are better options.
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I have the i727 and I am pleased with it. If I was to get a phone today and money is not a concern, I would get a NOTE. Tomorrow I would get a SIII. You can get a i727 today for FREE w/plan. How much do you want to spend?
http://www.technobloom.com/htc-thun...mation-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich/2220603/
Kinda figured this would happen. Now if HTC was a decent company they would still release their source...but we all know they wont.
Im not all expecting to see an official release but that site is about the most vague pile of crap ever. I cant help but doubt the validity of anything posted there.
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Wow that read like the old I heard from my brother sisters cousin twice removed. If there was an email why not post it in the article?
So you needed an unknown site to tell you this? You couldn't take the hints over the months with delay after delay?
Hey I heard from a friend London bridge just fell down lol.
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Yeah, that site is not reliable by any means...
Though I personally doubt to see an official ICS launch for the Thunderbolt.
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Yeah, that site is not reliable by any means...
Though I personally doubt to see an official ICS launch for the Thunderbolt.
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If we do get it then it will be on Christmas morning from Santa. So be good all you little bolt owners lol.
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Probably ran fine until VZW tried to put sense on it. Oh well.
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Probably ran fine until VZW tried to put sense on it. Oh well.
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You mean it probably ran fine until they bloated it.
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Probably ran fine until VZW tried to put sense on it. Oh well.
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Ummm sense is from HTC not Verizon lol.
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Someone doesn't know what the word "official" means. Hint: an official statement regarding the HTC Thunderbolt won't be written by a Jr. High School kid.
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Ummm sense is from HTC not Verizon lol.
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Doh! Shows how much I know.
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Isn't technobloom the site that told us all Amazon was going to sell the Thunderbolt for free starting at 3AM one day?
Anyway, the Galaxy Nexus is cheap as ever now, go for it, I mean the Nexus one just got a 4.2 custom ROM, imagine how far along the GalNex will get!
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I never really expected this to happen after observing all the work from the devs on it. ICS has always ran kinda wishy washy for me. I mean it works and all, but there are definitely some performance issues and bugs no matter which rom you use. Verizon nor HTC intends to release a shoddy product. It either has to work 100% or not at all. If ICS cant run as well as GB did, then it aint gonna happen.
I wish I had a dollar for all the false rumors that have been posted about ICS, I'd buy Verizon and have enough left over to keep me in booze and hookers for the rest of my life!
I think this is one more dollar in my stash....
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I never really expected this to happen after observing all the work from the devs on it. ICS has always ran kinda wishy washy for me. I mean it works and all, but there are definitely some performance issues and bugs no matter which rom you use. Verizon nor HTC intends to release a shoddy product. It either has to work 100% or not at all. If ICS cant run as well as GB did, then it aint gonna happen.
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If that were the case though, the thunderbolt would've ran well from launch day, which anyone who had one since then will say that it didn't. Originally the battery life was horrendous and had to be fixed by an OTA.
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NO ICS
just called HTC ,,, and they told me , that we are not getting ics,,, htc thunderbolt is discontinued,,,, :crying:
We could call and email different reps at HTC and we would get a slew of different responses from them all. Stuff like this no one will know the correct answer as tech support as we all know is the last to know.
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So let's see if I understand this... the OFFICIAL WORD from Verizon AND from HTC is that the Thunderbolt will or will not get ICS and will get it within the next two days or later than that or never.
Does that about cover it? <G>
Honestly, I don't see what all the flap is about? ICS doesn't offer anything I need or want other than (I HOPE!) a better kernel for the Devs to work with.
Meanwhile, NuSense works for me and the BAMF leak works for me if I want ICS and, if I want Gingerbread, Infected ROM works for me and Thunderstick BB works for me along with a bunch of other ROMs I've tried.
Was at Verizon today, Reps informed me there will be no ICS for our phones...Cant say I'm surprised...my upgrade is in January, not going to worry about it .. Can't believe they state we would get the upgrade, then renege ..
If Apple can upgrade their older model Iphones for several years , why can' t our Android phones do the same.. and no I'm not switching..
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Title. Not sure if I'd do it, though.
Not in a million years. I'd rather have the 2012 model anyway, though.
Why would you want to?
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Why would you want to?
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If anything, the software will be better. But I'm fine with my MAXX HD right now.
Good read:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/02/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-moto-x/
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If anything, the software will be better. But I'm fine with my MAXX HD right now.
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A lot of things should be and probably will be better than the RAZR HD with the X. But after all your current isn't that bad though other brand owners will tell u it's rubbish Not going to get the option in the UK
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I don't think I would trade my MAXX HD in right now, but I can tell you I hope some of the devs are able to port the firmware over. While I doubt I would use touchless controls, the new notification system is something I can see myself using a lot.
i guess two questions pop into my head...why would you want to, and why should they?
If you complain enough you *might* be able to get a alternate device swap for it but it would be rough. If you have an unlocked bootloader on your HD you are giving that up as the Moto X on Verizon does not have an unlocked bootloader. The dev version will though.
I guess the way I look at it is the Razr HD will eventually get 4.2.2 or 4.3 and if I cant wait i will just enjoy CyanogenMod until they do. Now if you have a regular Razr HD and not the MAXX and you have a locked bootloader or dont care about locked bootloaders then go for the X. Just complain enough and they will probably let you switch. I would wait a month though after its released to try as you dont get a new X or any new device as you only get refurbs. Have to give time for refurbs to show up in order for them to think about switching you.
I complained alot and they kept asking me to send my phone for repair. After three sends, I gave up, unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom rom. No more over heating issues now.
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