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Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
tbestie said:
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
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1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
Alankrut said:
1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
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Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
tbestie said:
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
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Clockwork Mod is just a recovery program to allow you to install new ROMs to your device, but most importantly, to let you backup and restore your current device configuration (like a sort of time machine). Most developers recommend Clockwork Mod (CWM) because it is so good at what it does. If anything fails, and you need to use your phone in a pinch, just revert to a CWM backup, and all's well!
So, to answer your question, unfortunately, no. One of the only ways to do that is with Titanium Backup, a program from the Android Market.
CWM is for reverting to previous incarnations of your phone's software and firmware.
Sorry I only answered one question, but it was the only one I knew how to in an effective manner.
Sorry, I can answer another!
tbestie said:
What exactly is a Radio number for?
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A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
tbestie said:
Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
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Radio Number/Version is the version of ur radio. This is signal related.
So when updates come out they typically update the
radio and make the signal strength better.
This is something to be careful with, when changing ROMs
make sure that the some you are about to change into
supports ur radio version.
When u use ClockWork Mod to backup it will backup your current settings. So if u backup it consists of your rom , apps, settings, etc. so if u restore that then everything would be like the old one. So Yes, u would have the set everything back on the homescreen. Its ok, u will get used to that.
When they release android 2.3.5 you might have to "wipe" your phone and do it again. Maybe, depending on your rom, you might be able to flash on top of 2.3.4
H-Boot is similar to the Bios of the computer. And you know how carefully you have to be to change that.
But the H-Boot version that the 1st sticky says allows changing of certain things, thus allowing you to have root.
Feel free to ask away, im here to help you
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Sorry, I can answer another!
A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
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lol. you posted both while i was writing up my response.
Its good though, because then the OP will get to read 2 times as much, which will make him even better at the terminology and the process
Lol. I'm just trying to be helpful so i can get to posting on the Dev. forums. There are plenty of easy questions there...
Appreciating the help guys =] Starting to understand a bit better!
So when i flash a new ROM, i must flash a new Radio? If i flash the recommended radio, how likely am i to get a good signal? And if im getting poor signal, i just have to keep trying new Radios? ( I Heard flashing radios is one of the ways you can brick your device)
Also with CWM - When the backup is made... do i have to keep it on the Sd card? Or can i move it to the computer so it takes up less space?
And if i understand correctly - CWM basically creates a backup just incase things go wrong you can always revert back?
... If i use titanium backup, what benefits does that bring over CWM? - Is it worth the money?
Thanks again
~Tbestie~
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
tbestie said:
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
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- Hold the power button, untill you get Shut Down, Airplane Mode or Restart.
- Click on Restart then Yes.
- Wait until all the lights on your device turn off.
- Hold the Vol. Down Button until a white screen shows.
There you'll find HBOOT-XXXXXX
This is your HBOOT version.
To get to your OS again:
- Make sure FASTBOOT is hightlighted.
- Press the <Power> button.
- Go to REBOOT by pressing Vol. Down.
- Press the <Power> button.
Hope it helps
tbestie said:
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
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You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
claudenegm said:
You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
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How do i find/note down my old cid?
tbestie said:
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
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To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
tbestie said:
How do i find/note down my old cid?
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I posted all the instructions in the other link I posted.
You'll find CID: XXXXX, keep this code with you, in-case you need it later for installing RUU and confused about which one to use.
claudenegm said:
To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
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Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
tbestie said:
Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isn't backed up?
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That's exactly what happened to me when I backed up.
I think you should ignore it, as it is trying to backup an extension in the SD-Card, as you can re-partition your SD-Card using CWM as I understand.
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
Good day to you all
claudenegm said:
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
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Ignoring it is ok. sd-ext not being backed up is most likely an indicator that an EXT4 formatted portion of your SD card was not found. By default, your SD card is formatted as FAT32 because of its universal acceptance by all OSs. Some users report a performance boost/personal preference toward EXT4, YMMV.
tbestie said:
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
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Most importantly, ClockworkMod does not back up your SD card. that is something you have to do manually on your computer, should you choose to do so. CWM is only responsible for backing up the internal storage of the phone that can be changed or wiped by ROMs (or mike1986's SuperWipe.) ROMs shouldn't change the contents of the SD card.
Scared myself today, after reading all the posts today I took the plunge and did the s-off via htcdev, first thing I did was root with the HTC supertool, I then installed the ROM toolbox pro and ROM manager free, flashed the clockwork mod. And now I'm sure I've missed something, not sure what as I'm still a little giddy with the whole rooting thing. Question is what should I do now before I do anything to my other left arm and brick it, that would really upset me.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
Welcome to the wonderful world of root! Back up your phone now!
Reboot the phone and ensure that you can enter clockwork mod directly from boot. Confirm you actually have root on your rom by checking the version of su in the superuser application preferences.
Make a full system backup, so you have a working restore point in case you ever do anything to your phone. After that, it is safe to start playing around with root apps (overclock, wifi tethering) and roms! If anything ever does break, restore to your latest backup.
I would definitely make a NAND backup, possibly a few, just in case. Idk if it applies to you but clockworkmod recovery has given trouble to Evo users (may just be the device). But a few backups guarantee that you have a reliable one to restore if needed. Good luck and enjoy the FULL power of your phone
This is the bit that has stumped me, getting into clockwork mod from recovery. I've got su v 3.0.6, it updated this morning. When I restart the phone with Vol down button I get usual boot screen, where do I go from there, also the little green light in top right hand side below camera is blinking lots, don't remember it doing that before root
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
Bump!!!
Sorry but just had to, dare not do anything till I've got at least one backup
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
jugg1es said:
[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
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Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...
MattMatt0240 said:
Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...
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Thanks for the help, your correct about the hboot. Ran terminal emulator after command #reboot recovery I was told it wasn't permitted. I havE abd but not really used it apart from the unlock process even then it was only running in the background. Saying that I can follow instruction and learn quickly and if I get a grasp of what's supposed to happen can sometimes work round it. Linux is funny, takes me back to my spectrum and BBC days. I'm new to Android but it is one of the reasons I ordered a raspberry pi.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:
jugg1es said:
Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy
MattMatt0240 said:
Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy
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What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
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jugg1es said:
What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
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Its an alternate recovery, may not be out for your phone, sorry. I agree, I hate sense too, completely.... like I said, just research and read directions, and you will more than likely avoid messing up your phone.
Found 4ext recovery. Only had one problem installing a Rom. Got stuck in a bootloop, upset a couple of mods on the development forum for asking in wrong section :thumbdown: finally got it sorted(didn't notice to clear dalvic cache) but, two days= two roms. Really like reaper it's really quick. Now need to master titanium backup and Rom toolbox (both pro) figured now I'd done I'd better invest in something decent.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)
Last question. I have read lots of threads explaining how to downgrade the hboot from 2.00. But none really explain the reasons why it should be done, I get that I will be able to flash new Roms direct from the sd card but is this the only reason or are there more technical needs in doing this
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
1st of all WRONG FORUM!!!!!! This is for Development, not questions. That's what general is for. Second, there's a couple threads in General about this. Just hit search.
Magical Mods, may we please have this moved. Thanks.
Sent from my MIUI V4
take out your sdcard and use an adapter to put a stock PG59IMG.zip on your sdcard (make sure its named PG59IMG.zip) and go back into the bootloader. It will confirm if you want to install the zip and in 10 mins you'll be back on stock. Oh and ^ plus one please next time post in general as this has nothing to do with developing.
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Yes, the correct terminology is 'Take a chill pill, Bill.
Can't get chill without the Bill.
fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Sorry I wasn't "helpful". I'll do better to assist you next time....or just ignore it
I can't help you and I expect you to get a satisfactory answer.
fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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XMC, a Dev. He helped you, we where all noobs once. You should check out the "Welcome to XDA Video". Just follow the Rules. That's all, follow the rules.
Sent from my MIUI V4
To supplement what Agent said the appropriate section for this would be the General section.
Additionally the development area is where devs post new roms, tools and hacks. Users can add observations to these threads to further development.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
fsured said:
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
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"tried a few different things" to get S-Off?
There are two ways of getting S-off. One is done with Revolution if your HBOOT is earlier than 1.45. The other is juopunutbear if your HBOOT is 1.45. Did you check your HBOOT version before "trying a few things"?
Did you read the instructions for the all-in-one toolkit? Or possibly just follow the steps in order in the program? It's specifically designed so you don't need s-off.
I'm assuming you must have flashed CWM recovery since you said you did a factory reset. Did you do Juopunutbear or revolution, or are you planning on leaving S-ON? If S-ON, Did you flash a kernel(boot.img) using the toolkit? If you can get into HBOOT and get into recovery, there's no reason you should need to revert to stock. However, if your plan is to continue doing steps before reading the instructions, you should probably revert to stock anyway before you really do brick your device.
This link will provide you everything you need to get your device running. Just follow the spteps from the beginning. If your bootloader is already unlocked from HTCDev, then start at the step directly after unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
The toolkit worked well for me (even though it was my first attempt at anything), so I guess I'd echo that. It also matched with the step-by-step guides on stuff I found elsewhere in the forum. BUT there is a real difference in the method and order of things for the two hboots, hence KarriOn's questions.
However, having rooted and S-Offed, I then got a bit cocky and managed to end up in a not dissimilar position to you! Total panic, but I managed to get out by thinking through what I'd done, researching, and the cause and hence solution became clear. Took a night sleeping on it, and 2 hours.
what HBOOT?
Did you unlock the boot loader?
Did you get recovery on
Did you do a backup before going any further?
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I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
fsured said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
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You don't need S-Off for ROMs to work. It sounds like you didn't flash a kernel after installing a ROM. The instructions on doing this are listed in the all-in one tool thread, the "flash ics roms with s-on" thread, and even on the all-in one tool interface itself.
fsured said:
I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Flashing SuperUser won't get you to S-Off. Hasoon2000 has two different toolkits. One that will guide you through the rooting process and the other on how to gain S-Off using the Juopunutbear method. Having S-Off isn't necessary to root but it will take a few extra steps to flash a different ROM with S-ON. I was too much of a chicken to try the S-Off method since there is some risk involved but several have reported that it worked successfully for them.
Hello,
I have phone that can't boot to rom, just HTC logo apears, but I can go to bootloader and I have CWM installed and working.
Problem is that I can't start any rom I tried to install, it just freazes with HTC logo and I don't know what to do now.
I tried CM 7.2, JellyTime-AOKP-7-Saga and few other roms. No seams to be woking, but they install and show that everything is ok in CWM.
Any help would be really nice, because I don't know what to do.
Thanks!
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Thank you for answers, but I have solved my problem like this:
I now have 4.0.4 that is from HTC.
First you need to relock you bootloader:
Boot to fastboot, plug usb and "fastboot lock oem".
Then I used RUU also from fastboot.
And it worked!
Notice you have the 2.00.0002 HBOOT, was it htcdev unlocked and if so are you flashing the boot.img after you flash the rom?
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ARrrRGGGGGHHHH!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
fastboot flash boot <boot.img> ---where boot.img is filename
ben_pyett said:
ARrrRGGGGGHHHH!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
fastboot flash boot <boot.img> ---where boot.img is filename
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Careful Ben - that's where I started a few weeks ago before I totally lost the plot with it all
SimonTS said:
Careful Ben - that's where I started a few weeks ago before I totally lost the plot with it all
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and I now see where you were coming from......I thought I'd express personal frustration along with providing the solution, all you need to do is Google my response and you have the solution!
Although I'll give the OP one thing, he bothered to write an very informative polite thread with all information required including pics - if only all threads were that clear and well described.
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and I now see where you were coming from......I thought I'd express personal frustration along with providing the solution, all you need to do is Google my response and you have the solution!
Although I'll give the OP one thing, he bothered to write an very informative polite thread with all information required including pics - if only all threads were that clear and well described.
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We need a bot that autoreplies to every post with "flash boot.img if you're HTC dev unlocked", I swear that's the answer to almost every question here recently!
outsidetown said:
We need a bot that autoreplies to every post with "flash boot.img if you're HTC dev unlocked", I swear that's the answer to almost every question here recently!
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Guys, I understand that most of problems are solved and answer is somewhere, but then you don't know lot about stuff you are doing you don't really know what to look for. And then you can't boot your new phone you start to panic.
cyanogenmod wiki don't say anything about boot.img and since cm is one of the most popular roms (Sorry if no) new users think that they should do everything that is said there and it will work. If it don't work - I did something wrong or something wrong is with my phone. I done everything again and it was same. I said how I'm installing rom on #android-root (freenode) and no one said that I do something wrong just said that that I am pretty much ****** because I don't have a back-up.
So sorry for all the noobs like me and be patient with us, latter we will be there to help other new noobs.
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Guys, I understand that most of problems are solved and answer is somewhere, but then you don't know lot about stuff you are doing you don't really know what to look for. And then you can't boot your new phone you start to panic.
cyanogenmod wiki don't say anything about boot.img and since cm is one of the most popular roms (Sorry if no) new users think that they should do everything that is said there and it will work. If it don't work - I did something wrong or something wrong is with my phone. I done everything again and it was same. I said how I'm installing rom on #android-root (freenode) and no one said that I do something wrong just said that that I am pretty much ****** because I don't have a back-up.
So sorry for all the noobs like me and be patient with us, latter we will be there to help other new noobs.
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Good point. But that's also the reason why we have these threads called "Indexes". IT IS much easier now compared to when we were just starting to fill up the thread on xda-developers. Believe me.
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Good point. But that's also the reason why we have these threads called "Indexes". IT IS much easier now compared to when we were just starting to fill up the thread on xda-developers. Believe me.
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+1 to that.
The sheer terror, over a year ago, of using a hardware rig (XTC-Clip) to gain permanent S-Off - knowing that if I didn't do it perfectly and didn't understand what I was doing then I would be left with a very expensive paperweight. These guys now have it so easy by comparison
Kids these days.......
Too easy, too young, too lazy....having lost the ability to read and the understanding of value, I always knew that my device which had cost hundreds of pounds couldn't be replaced (and I have a job) and I therefore read, researched and reread until I understood what I was doing before I asked daft questions (hopefully). there are clearly exceptions liked dan and Oly but kids these days.......I'll stop before I get properly started and called an old fart.....
would have justified those statements by saying that I obviously got out of the wrong side of bed, but unfortunately I'm still in it.
Sywepd form my DsereiS
Let's see, I forgot when I bought this phone, but I remember not liking the phone much, used it for a while for some light usage, and threw it back in storage..and forgot about it. Found it a few days ago, and since I'm sending my Zenfone 2 to warranty, probably gonna use this device until I get back the Asus. Might as well gonna buy a new phone after getting some cash together, anyway, stuck with this tiny device for a while. Just realized that it has only 1GB for apps, although it says 8GB on the box. Weird. So I decided to root the device to get rid of some pre installed junks. I only rooted some Samsung devices before, htc procedures are quite different. Unlocked, and rooted. It's running on 4.2.2 JB, k2_ul LTE version, and hboot is 2.1 as far as I can recall. And then, after rooting and all, noticed that I can't delete those pre-installed stuff even with the root, so just froze them, which I could of done without rooting in the first place. Not much on SV over the internet, but all I gathered is that on the bootloader screen, s-on needs to be s-off in order to modify or remove something system related from the phone, I think. Tried to do that, but couldn't find any methods online for Jelly Bean 4.2.2. Only option I think, is the rumrunner, but their website is kaput. As you can see, the dilemma I am in now. I understand, nobody cares about this phone, not even HTC even after the release. Just need some basic information.. where do I go from here. I swear I will throw this phone back into the darkness once I get my main device back/buy a new one, but for a while, have to live with it..
>Any way to turn the security off, s-off for the 4.2.2 JB ?
>Or just flash a custom rom, not that the phone has many other roms. I think flashing requires the s-off too.
>Or find a way to move apps to other partitions of the phone..i.e, Internal memory or MicroSD, which I have no clue how to do. :silly:
I just want some space on the phone, and bloatware vanished. Helps are appreciated !
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>Any way to turn the security off, s-off for the 4.2.2 JB ?
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Well, if rumrunner don't work, Sunshine app should work to get S-off, as far as i know. Sunshine is not free, it cost 25 USD.
Another way to disable write protection for S-on devices is this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575240
But i never used this, so don't ask me how to do.
>Or just flash a custom rom, not that the phone has many other roms. I think flashing requires the s-off too.
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Flashing custom roms will also work on S-on devices. Just read and follow the guides how to flash in the rom threads. S-on will require some extra steps, which are usually mentioned in this threads.
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(...) Weird. So I decided to root the device to get rid of some pre installed junks.(...)
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You can many of these applications simply off in the options of the system.
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Well, if rumrunner don't work, Sunshine app should work to get S-off, as far as i know. Sunshine is not free, it cost 25 USD.
Another way to disable write protection for S-on devices is this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575240
But i never used this, so don't ask me how to do.
Flashing custom roms will also work on S-on devices. Just read and follow the guides how to flash in the rom threads. S-on will require some extra steps, which are usually mentioned in this threads.
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Well, rumrunner worked. Their website is down, and while in the bathtub, got the idea about the web archive/wayback machine. Et Voila ! Thanks, regardless. I have uploaded the HTC Universal Rumrunner version if anyone needs it. Pretty easy.
http://d-h.st/t5r0
Did you successfully root your SV? I rooted mine without problem, I still keep the stock 4.2.2 JB and HTC Sense.
I like the SV for its small size and excellent signal reception. The removable battery is also a plus.
I'm a professional [desk] diver.