OK, I confess it... I'm a root-n-rom-aholic! Nook color, my old just-replaced Droid X, and my new Nexus 7 all have had many ROMs, kernels, etc. and I've enjoyed, well, most of it.
Now may be different. For starters, I'm a consultant, my phone is tool first, toy second (tablet the other way around). It HAS to work, which is why I ended up custom ROMing my DX - I went through 4 phones before I realized, its the software, stupid! My N7 allows me to continue what I started with my old Nook, only now making a good machine even better.
With the S3, things are a bit different...
First, the darn thing works pretty well, other than battery life, and that may change with then next OTA update to JB. While I'm not very fond of the old ICS interface, in general, if it ain't broke, don't fix it?
Second, unlike my old DX, its still under guarantee, and while I think I could recover from any 'brick,' there is always the chance of not...
and replacement would NOT be inexpensive.
Third, I don't miss root-level backup as much as I might - because all my apk's are backed up from the N7 installation if I ever needed to recover them; data is another matter, as is setting up my Apex launcher, but all doable if I'm stuck.
Anyway, I think right now I'm going to wait for the OTA to JB, see if 'rooting' is still possible after that, then we'll see..
just my $.02
regards, jf
I'll probably mess around somewhat but I've slowly eased off too. My OG Droid ran every ROM available at one point or another. Working camera? Meh, not a big deal.
My Incredible 2 was a little mroe reserved. It worked well with Sense and i didn't like AOSP on it, thoguht it felt weird. So i stuck with a nearly stock Sense 2.1 setup.
SGS3 is better yet. I want to try AOSP but the epic camera app in TW has me shying away, I don't want to lose those features. Do'nt care about the sharesshot or anything but other things are really awesome. On top of that, it has to be stable and everything has to work.
Running Synergy now, mainly because I got too sick and tired of VZ Backup Assistant Plus trying to back **** up.
I'm with you on staying stock for now. Prior to me going with the iPhone full-time, custom ROMs where the best way for me to get a stable experience on my old devices due to the bloated nature of manufacturer custom skins back in the day.
Now that I switched from the iPhone to Android with the Galaxy S3, I don't feel the need to use a custom ROM to get good performance. The only temptation for me to move to JB is for Google Now, but I don't want to lose some of the features of TouchWiz...namely the camera app.
- VDubb
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If you wait until the next OTA, rooting may be likely, but you may be stuck with kexec if it breaks our current method of unlocking the bootloader. Adam Outler specifically stated that flashing the leaked aboot image on an OTA other the our current will most likely brick your GS3, so I'd unlock and root now then wait for the next JB OTA to be ported.
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Coming from the OG Droid Incredible I miss some root level things -- but I still haven't rooted yet. I think what I'll do is wait for a stable CM rom to be released, make sure to wait it out a bit for some common problems to occur, then go through it.
Some grips I have about the phone, for example the home button is nice.. there was a physical button on the Dinc, it wasn't anything new. Except the fact it wakes the screen. The phone is in my pocket.. seriously.
Messaging app stinks, but so does everything else on the Play store. CM7 messaging app -- I want that back.
Music player stinks, too much bling. If I wanted power amp, I would buy it (and that's better).
The hardware.. now this is where everything shines. The camera is awesome, fast, no slow downs. The 2GB of RAM is nice too with multiasking.
Playing DK 64 and going back and forth was a dream with my Dinc. Not anymore. USB OTG, even better with my USB drives, keyboard/mouse or even wired controllers.
The phone is great while stock, minus some opinions.. you can't please everyone. Some things deserve a toggle though, such as the home button wake screen = off or on? Choices like that would make the Sammy experience even better.
Stable CM for Verizon will be released sometime.. (hopefully). :good:
Im in love with root level access. I started out with the OG Droid. Went thru 4 of those, on purpose. 3 Droid X. 2 Droid Eris. 2 Droid 2. and got 2 SGS3, one for me and one for my sister.
All of which were rooted and rom'd. All except for my sisters. I see no difference in usability with the S3. Just being rom'd allows me to access options quicker.
I use my phone for work and it has not failed me yet.
Only issues sometimes is the forced reboots.
Every device i have ever owned, i have modified it to allow root access. Computers, Tablets, Apple products, Game consoles, and Android.
Just like you im a root n rom aholic.
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Ok guys, the title says it all. Do you plan on living with your One XL the way HTC intended it to be or do you plan on living on the wild side? Despite the non removable battery I plan on rooting as soon as we get some good roms. For me that's half the fun of android, as soon as I get bored with one rom I flash a new one! However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery. So what will it be for you?
I"m on a similar situation, but will Rom away.
definitely. and not having a removable battery isnt a problem, if you long hold the power button for 10 sec, the device will auto shutdown and simulate a battery pull.
i will root as soon as available so my root apps work and i can tether. i usually don't rom until roms are tried and true unless i'm testing. i'm not a fan of bugs and alphas.
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However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery.
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Hold the power button for 10+ seconds. According to the One X manual on HTC's website that will be the equivalent of a battery pull. And several users of the International version have confirmed that this works
def unlocking and rooting asap. always do.
Definitely will root, probably going to have to flash the radio to get AWS working for WCDMA.
Probably wont root. Im going to stay fully stock and see if everything is fine. If i need more enhancements/mods i will sign my phone away to htcdev
So I'm kind of a newb at rooting (I've only rooted the htc inspire) does anyone know how to root it already or are we going to have to wait till the device comes out on AT&T?
Will definitely root it but I'm gonna hold off on the roms for a while
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Rooting it to remove bloat. Might flash a rom if it's stock ICS themed.
I'll probably root/ROM mine after a few days of being stock.
I want to try out some vanilla ICS on it, but who knows maybe it will be perfect the way it is
Will be rooting as soon as possible I use to many apps that require root. May stick with sense for a while but will certainly do something about the green battery icon I really hate it.
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I'm not particularly interested in rooting any more these days, but I think I would prefer stock ICS again.
While Sense 4.0 is an improvement over past versions, it is still far too bloated and cluttered. Having only 9GB of available space on a 16GB device is unacceptable :\
I've never not rooted or flashed a different ROM on my device. Sometimes I will add my own hacks because devs are awesome enough to tell us their method for doing so. But my ROMs aren't good enough to publish and are just rips and customizations because I'm extremely picky.
Thankfully I've managed to Disable most of the Sense junk that I don't like and retain the good stuff. My stock ROM is running beautifully. HTC has done an amazing job of streamlining things and I'm really amazed.
I'll be able to hold out. I'd love root access for root call blocker and some other essential root-dependant changes but I'm pretty dang content right now. Such a wicked device. I've never loved a device out of the box as much as this phone.
Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
I'll definitely root ASAP, but will probably hold off on ROMs until a CM9 build pops up.
Non removable battery is a non issue. My Xoom has a non removable battery and I flash custom ROMs all the time. Power + Volume buttons.
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Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
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The AOKP project is an awesome compliment to the AOSP sources that are released. They do such a fantastic job. Only very minor improvements and not too much screwing around.
Cyanogenmod trumps it by just a tiny bit though. I absolutely love what they do. They're intense. I always make small donations any time I can. They're amazing.
Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Bingo!
I'm always surprised when I see people posting about how they've had x amount of phones and never rooted. NEVER ROOTED!?!?!? I can understand and appreciate not unlocking the bootloader or flashing ROMs, but I don't understand why they'd be here if they aren't tinkering one way or another.
I normally don't even bother setting up my phones because I've already got everything lined up to root, unlock and probably flash a different ROM onto my device.
Honestly, the A2 has great performance, it is not top of the line, but it is certainly pretty high end. It has a decent feel overall, but still know one knows about it. Why is this?!!? I'm not even talking strictly from a development standpoint, as it is just so unheard of. everyone knows about the whole droid line and such, but our great phone is completely neglected. There is no way i'm the only one that is bothered by this, especially because there is so much potential in our phone. I know the locked bootloader, makes things difficult, but a way around that is near, so do y'all think development will take off once we get it bypassed or unlocked? Thanks for listening to my rant and feel free to give your own opinion
Motorola or Att did not push this phone like they did with the original Atrix. Most people are going with samsung (sgs2 or the note). That is why we do not have very many devs. Samsung phone are much easier to work with. I know because i have one. If no one else decides to get this phone that's fine with me. I like the phone as is. Im also happy with the few devs we have. Their work is greatly appreciated.
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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you aren't the only one. It pisses me off. I always have service on this phone, for the most part it's fast and smooth, and the ROM support is becoming awesome. Yet still people don't know the name of my phone , they just know it's "big"
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
Motorola did not advertise or really let ANYONE know that the phone was being released. For example, when I walked into the AT&T store with a $100 and a contract renewal, I just browsed/tried all of the phones they had in stock, and happend to like the feature set/performance of the Atrix 2 the best. The funny part is that I had NO idea that the phone actually came out the day before and was just put on display. Luckily the phone is great and the community to go along with it is even greater.
Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Freezing apps does wonders for performance + battery life. I use Titanium Backup for this. All the "junk apps" that Motorola/AT&T installed (that I don't use) get frozen.
The End.
Some of our roms are great, but there are only 4 or 5 or something, it would be nice to see some of the big ones like cm7. hopefully an unlocked BL and ICS will spark some serious development. I think the biggest problem is the lack of serious developers. Who do we really have? Jimbridgman, lfabor06, and Rdavisct are the only ones I can really think of off the top of my head. We all play a role, but only the true genius' like them do a lot of good towards roms and things
To buy an Atrix 2, I had to special order it from Amazon. The local places didn't sell it because it didn't work with LTE in the area, and were mainly pushing iStuff.
Motorola needs to wake up and start tooting their own horn. The Atrix 2 has been an excellent phone, both in the reception department (better voice and call quality than my HTC and iPhone), CPU department, and in general usage.
Plus, there is an untapped market for these types of phones -- business people who just need a basic laptop where all their data is stored securely at one place, either on the phone with the on device encryption (or SD encryption), or using a Citrix receiver.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
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This really is the truth of the matter. Until we can load custom kernels on the A2, the devs are kinda limited on what they can modify. ICS with a locked bootloader is not much better than GB with a locked bootloader.
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy and the A2 is better in almost every area; reception, interface, speaker...
Hello first time posting here and need info on the s3 for verizon. This will be my first android phone and i've been reading that the verizon phone sucks because it's bootloader locked. So for someone who doesn't know anything about that, but interested in learning about flashing roms and etc.. would it bother me at all that its locked or am i gonna not notice anything different?
The Verizon GS3 has been rooted and custom bootloaders can be flashed. Their are already several roms that can be flashed. There is also work arounds that allow non-touchwiz based roms like Cyanogenmod and AOKP. The phone has been released less than a month and we've already seen tremendous progress.
Personally, I think the GS3 is a great phone. Verizon's coverage in my area far surpasses the other carriers, so I'm sticking with them. I don't think you would be disappointed with this phone.
This is the first Android phone that I have had with no interest in modifying, rooting, etc.. (I've had a Moto Droid, Droid X, X2, Bionic, and Rezound) because it works great. I've had no issues whatsoever. Only thing I have done is install GoLauncherEx for its diversity, but I could have lived with TouchWiz (the stock launcher). Easily the best phone I have ever owned.
My main purpose for rooting was for WiFi Tether, but now, Verizon includes Mobile Hotspot in the new plans (they had to, I guess) so I'm great being on stock. I'm not a "super-data-user"... maybe 4-5GB a month so the new data plans really don't affect me, and actually save me about $40/mo.
The only thing the locked bootloader will do is make it slightly more involved when flashing AOSP roms or roms that have their own kernal. Everything else will be substantially the same.
Of course, the locking is a PITA for devs, so we may see slightly fewer roms for this phone than we would have otherwise, but I think the massive popularity and awesome hardware will more than make up for the few who jumped ship. Mostly, the lock is just causing a ton of complaints and makes it possible to permanently brick your device (which is still very easy to avoid).
I agree with second poster. This phone really doesn't NEED rooted and flashed. Works great the way it is.
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I also agree that this phone, with its speed, huge screen, and TW interface, does not even need to be flashed with a custom ROM (but I did root and put a stock rooted ROM on just to have it).The TW interface is like a custom ROM - and a great one! I love this phone - it is the best cell phone i ever owned.
It is a great phone! I have had Droid X and Thunderbolt. I rooted and installed roms on both of them. All I have done is install Apex on this phone and that is all I have wanted or needed to do. This thing is SMOKING FAST!!! The only negative thing I can say is that the reception isn't as good on this phone as my other phones were. I am hopeful that a couple of software updates will fix that.
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thnx for input everyone upgrading to s3 probably tomorrow. I guess everyone was over exaggerating over the phone being locked.
Well as you all may know, LG claims korean devices will get ics. We have been holding our breathe for a long time, suprised we are not all dead yet. Regardless, what does everyone think about the g2x and the current development that is going on? I myself am quite frustrated with it. I can get jellybean to build but it is still very much broken, and I refuse to release something that turns my device into a paperweight. I will open source my stuff before too much longer, just to see what others can do, but I do not see many people, deving, modding or even themeing anymore.
I personally like my g2x it stomps my galaxy nexus in quadrants (which means nothing, I just like the big numbers) but it also seems to handle games alot better. I have been through 6 defective ones but, I still hang on to it. I have sold all my other devices besides my nexus and my g2x.
I am sure I got off on the wrong foot with some people, however everything I said came true. Certain teams claimed other teams work as their own and refused to submit their minute changes upstream as required by the gpl they claim protects their rebranded work and now all further development has stopped. The more people that work on something the better off the chances are for success but yea.....anywho
This is not intended to be a flame thread or an i told you so thread. This is intended to find out what everyone thinks of the current development and state of their phone. I want to know what the average user would like to see. What is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
Sold. Got a Galaxy Nexus enjoying a 100% working ROM of Jelleybean 4.1
I am getting a Samsung Galaxy III when I come back from vacation.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
I love the phone and the support from the community but despise the neglect from LG/nVidia. I was running different ROMs until I needed full bluetooth support on the v21y baseband so now I'm back on stock Gingerbread :-\
I bought this phone on contract with intentions of it being future proof and lasting the full 2 years. A year into my contract and the specs are still great on paper. A little bit more RAM would be nice but I can work with it. Just please LG, hook us up with ICS. I don't really want to cough up 400 bucks for a Galaxy Nexus...
I love my g2x...I have been messing around with Harsh's kernel for CM 7...(I even got a OC/UV version...hehe)...I thought about making a CM7 kang (with tweaks and what not)...or an AOSP GB ROM...but right now I'm in school...and debating if I should put the time and effort into development...I don't mind...I'm still learning about how kernels works...and would love to develop something (or at least help out) for our devices...
I like my g2x a lot. Bought it off eBay 7 months ago and have been impressed with the power this thing has. I am very distrought that we are 2 versions of android behind. Yes we have ICS but its not to the level of perfection I need and thus am still on GB. This is my 3rd android phone and I have never fallen this behind thanks to devs of xda.
I understand the driver/source code issues that are holding us back. If we can get a port of our Korean counterpart's ICS, then I will most likely just hold onto this phone for awhile longer.
My contract us up in 3 months and I could save money by going to a monthly plan. If we can't get fully functioning ICS though, I'll be hopping on the note 2. I'm getting the note 2 regardless, but would just like to wait till the right deal comes along instead of paying top dollar.
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There are still some ports showing up, but I see 2 things being a barrier to more/better dev activity -
1) Driver availability. Both ICS and GB. ICS ROMs are stuck on things needing HW acceleration, for example. The Froyo camera is almost fully ported to 2.3+ but not exactly. JB - even more so.
2) In call BT audio for new BB. Even though we can flash to have custom ROMs work with v21y, this function is still not working. That is a big reason why I have quit flashing the past few months.
I do like the phone and will keep it until it breaks.
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I love my g2x but its lagging seriously since i got it up too 132 using gps but running your rooted stock. My phone only likes stock roms cm based just force close everything. But ill keep it tell it dies
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I don't attempt to run ics or jb roms anymore, they still seem unstable. But I am quite content with gb, though I still haven't found a rom+kernel that solves everything. Either it lags or I get SOD/overheating. So far I like cm7 nightlies best, don't know which kernel to go with though.
Galaxy Nexus is on it's way. My G2X is just too buggy, but I am going to keep it as a backup. Plus I want to go to an unsubsidized plan as the rates are much cheaper. For the same price I pay now I can get unlimited talk, text and data, plus hotspot (which I am not paying for now but have been warned that it will soon be an additional $15/month). I make back the cost of the GNEX in one year with the better service and reduced rate.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
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I like Kwes and BuruRom rooted stock in addition to Temasek's CM7. I've got my phone figured out. If/when (on CM7 based roms) data drops or MMS bugs cause me frustration, I just restore Nandroid back-ups of those rooted stock version(s). If I need to drive an HD movie out the HDMI port for my kids in the backseat, I have better results with Morfic's kernel/CM7. Yeah, the phone runs hot (gets unstable) when pushed hard. It still does all I ask of it - day in, day out. I plan to make it work till I am eligible to upgrade. I hope my replacement for my G2x won't need to be any bigger. I miss the days of being able to forget my cell phone is in my jeans pocket!
I am waiting for a new nexus phone to come out and i am going to buy that and ditch the g2x. I am still running Bionix Reloaded because it is the best rom I have found to date and I have no reason to switch. I tried some ICS roms but my battery died in a few hours and I barley got a data connection. I appreciate all of the hard work and development with the G2X but LG killed it by not releasing drivers. I find it really sad because the G2X is such a powerful phone. I think it is still competitive with current phones that are being released with the software being the only exception. I told myself I will never purchase a new phone unless it is a nexus phone due to the fact that they will get updates.
LG definitely lost my business for a long time.
Personally
I would love to develop for the G2x(I'm learning, but just barely) , but I can't see much that I am capable of doing right now. I'm gonna cook versions of CM7 and play with building kernels. We are in a holding pattern until the nVidia drivers come forward or the CM7 bluetooth thing gets resolved.
Going to keep the phone until at least Christmas, even later probably. My Nexus 7 has made my g2x have great battery life!
Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.
Lol... I got my nexus 2 or 3 weeks ago and swore I would sell my g2x ( at one point I was contemplating having my friends form a firing line directly at the phone. Then sending the video to lg and nvidia, interrupted by Linus giving them the finger.) But I haven't. I really love the phone to be honest. I was lucky enough to get one without major screen bleed and it has only locked up on me twice (PC/UV kernels).. I'm seriously contemplating keeping it as a back up phone.
I do wish that nvidia and lg would hurry up with the update so I could play around with fully functioning jb Roms, but since I know nothing about coding, I'm no help.
I also notice fewer and fewer devs working on it. I hope they are just waiting for the drivers tho.
So all in all, I still have the phone, even though I have moved on.
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No more Korean phones
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...what is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
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Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
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Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
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Agreed, the devs here have done a wonderful job. Though I don't blame them for moving to another device.
I am running ics(hellfire sandwich) on g2x. Except the camera everything seems to work. Waiting for jellybean. I dont think i will change my phone atleast this year. All the games run well. I am dissapointed cuz we are being ignored by lg and nvidia.
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I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.
i prefer AOSP
TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.
DaemonAshra said:
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
prdog1 said:
Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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DaemonAshra said:
I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
prdog1 said:
Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:
I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.
DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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DaemonAshra said:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.
To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.
CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.
I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
aooga said:
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.