Hello first time posting here and need info on the s3 for verizon. This will be my first android phone and i've been reading that the verizon phone sucks because it's bootloader locked. So for someone who doesn't know anything about that, but interested in learning about flashing roms and etc.. would it bother me at all that its locked or am i gonna not notice anything different?
The Verizon GS3 has been rooted and custom bootloaders can be flashed. Their are already several roms that can be flashed. There is also work arounds that allow non-touchwiz based roms like Cyanogenmod and AOKP. The phone has been released less than a month and we've already seen tremendous progress.
Personally, I think the GS3 is a great phone. Verizon's coverage in my area far surpasses the other carriers, so I'm sticking with them. I don't think you would be disappointed with this phone.
This is the first Android phone that I have had with no interest in modifying, rooting, etc.. (I've had a Moto Droid, Droid X, X2, Bionic, and Rezound) because it works great. I've had no issues whatsoever. Only thing I have done is install GoLauncherEx for its diversity, but I could have lived with TouchWiz (the stock launcher). Easily the best phone I have ever owned.
My main purpose for rooting was for WiFi Tether, but now, Verizon includes Mobile Hotspot in the new plans (they had to, I guess) so I'm great being on stock. I'm not a "super-data-user"... maybe 4-5GB a month so the new data plans really don't affect me, and actually save me about $40/mo.
The only thing the locked bootloader will do is make it slightly more involved when flashing AOSP roms or roms that have their own kernal. Everything else will be substantially the same.
Of course, the locking is a PITA for devs, so we may see slightly fewer roms for this phone than we would have otherwise, but I think the massive popularity and awesome hardware will more than make up for the few who jumped ship. Mostly, the lock is just causing a ton of complaints and makes it possible to permanently brick your device (which is still very easy to avoid).
I agree with second poster. This phone really doesn't NEED rooted and flashed. Works great the way it is.
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I also agree that this phone, with its speed, huge screen, and TW interface, does not even need to be flashed with a custom ROM (but I did root and put a stock rooted ROM on just to have it).The TW interface is like a custom ROM - and a great one! I love this phone - it is the best cell phone i ever owned.
It is a great phone! I have had Droid X and Thunderbolt. I rooted and installed roms on both of them. All I have done is install Apex on this phone and that is all I have wanted or needed to do. This thing is SMOKING FAST!!! The only negative thing I can say is that the reception isn't as good on this phone as my other phones were. I am hopeful that a couple of software updates will fix that.
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thnx for input everyone upgrading to s3 probably tomorrow. I guess everyone was over exaggerating over the phone being locked.
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Prior to my Inspire I was on a iPhone 3gs not jailbroken with lots of apps. First like to comment that I love the Inspire, HTC has made an amazing phone. I have been going back and forth on whether to root all day (I have an extra kingston 2gb in front of me to make my goldcard). It seems there are still problems with the root since the Inspire is new, and AT&T is just started offering android. I don't mind following step by step instructions, as I have seen provided by many amazing developers. However, I do mind if my phone is buggy and screen locks constantly. I really do want to unleash this thing with my grandfathered unlimited data plan, but I have never held a rooted android phone let alone a rooted Inspire. How is the rooting compatible with the inspire on AT&T? I've seen locked screens and other bugs in recent posts and am unsure if I should root, suggestions appreciated.
Honestly its up to you. I have done nothing, but experiment and make boot animations which I flash probably about 10 times a day. If you like the phone as it is then don't root. If you want to have control of the phone and do what you want ie. custom roms with overclocking cpu, better battery life, (eng s-off) flash new radios that have better reception and battery life, custom boot animations... the list goes on. It is entirely up to you. Only you can decide if customizing and altering your phone is worth it.
Well that is my entire goal, I wanna get a better battery, reception, tether to my unlimited, and eliminate blockbuster!!!!! i hate that app. But yea I do want that control, but my point is how are these programs running as of now for Inspire? The patches to run other phones is great and has been well developed, but Inspire isn't a month old. What are ROMs running like, and has there been enough debugging to make rooting workable now?
If I am speaking for me, these rom's are working really well. The inspire may only be a month old but the Desire HD has been out for quite a while and almost all of the roms are based on the desire platform. From all the roms I have tried which is all of the ones in this dev section, the only ones I have found major bugs with are the CM7 ones, the other ones are pretty much the stock roms that are optimized.
I would root it. I followed the directions to the letter and flashed CM7...no issues at all except a few CM bugs. The speed alone is worth it.
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Definitely root, the advantages are too long to list.
Be bold and take full control of your purchase.
Root it
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But you'll lose Blockbuster and the Asphalt game!!!
ROOT IT!!!
Gonna root
I'm doing it....still problems with making my goldcard. Downloaded SDK, and trying to get ADB to work now. Having some trouble here though, any advice?
Hmmm.. I can't think of a reason not to root
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I'm doing it....still problems with making my goldcard. Downloaded SDK, and trying to get ADB to work now. Having some trouble here though, any advice?
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i would recommend using attn1s hack kit. follow the readme step by step. if you have issues, visit the link in my sig.
root it!
never going back
Ok guys, the title says it all. Do you plan on living with your One XL the way HTC intended it to be or do you plan on living on the wild side? Despite the non removable battery I plan on rooting as soon as we get some good roms. For me that's half the fun of android, as soon as I get bored with one rom I flash a new one! However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery. So what will it be for you?
I"m on a similar situation, but will Rom away.
definitely. and not having a removable battery isnt a problem, if you long hold the power button for 10 sec, the device will auto shutdown and simulate a battery pull.
i will root as soon as available so my root apps work and i can tether. i usually don't rom until roms are tried and true unless i'm testing. i'm not a fan of bugs and alphas.
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However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery.
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Hold the power button for 10+ seconds. According to the One X manual on HTC's website that will be the equivalent of a battery pull. And several users of the International version have confirmed that this works
def unlocking and rooting asap. always do.
Definitely will root, probably going to have to flash the radio to get AWS working for WCDMA.
Probably wont root. Im going to stay fully stock and see if everything is fine. If i need more enhancements/mods i will sign my phone away to htcdev
So I'm kind of a newb at rooting (I've only rooted the htc inspire) does anyone know how to root it already or are we going to have to wait till the device comes out on AT&T?
Will definitely root it but I'm gonna hold off on the roms for a while
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Rooting it to remove bloat. Might flash a rom if it's stock ICS themed.
I'll probably root/ROM mine after a few days of being stock.
I want to try out some vanilla ICS on it, but who knows maybe it will be perfect the way it is
Will be rooting as soon as possible I use to many apps that require root. May stick with sense for a while but will certainly do something about the green battery icon I really hate it.
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I'm not particularly interested in rooting any more these days, but I think I would prefer stock ICS again.
While Sense 4.0 is an improvement over past versions, it is still far too bloated and cluttered. Having only 9GB of available space on a 16GB device is unacceptable :\
I've never not rooted or flashed a different ROM on my device. Sometimes I will add my own hacks because devs are awesome enough to tell us their method for doing so. But my ROMs aren't good enough to publish and are just rips and customizations because I'm extremely picky.
Thankfully I've managed to Disable most of the Sense junk that I don't like and retain the good stuff. My stock ROM is running beautifully. HTC has done an amazing job of streamlining things and I'm really amazed.
I'll be able to hold out. I'd love root access for root call blocker and some other essential root-dependant changes but I'm pretty dang content right now. Such a wicked device. I've never loved a device out of the box as much as this phone.
Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
I'll definitely root ASAP, but will probably hold off on ROMs until a CM9 build pops up.
Non removable battery is a non issue. My Xoom has a non removable battery and I flash custom ROMs all the time. Power + Volume buttons.
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Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
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The AOKP project is an awesome compliment to the AOSP sources that are released. They do such a fantastic job. Only very minor improvements and not too much screwing around.
Cyanogenmod trumps it by just a tiny bit though. I absolutely love what they do. They're intense. I always make small donations any time I can. They're amazing.
Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Bingo!
I'm always surprised when I see people posting about how they've had x amount of phones and never rooted. NEVER ROOTED!?!?!? I can understand and appreciate not unlocking the bootloader or flashing ROMs, but I don't understand why they'd be here if they aren't tinkering one way or another.
I normally don't even bother setting up my phones because I've already got everything lined up to root, unlock and probably flash a different ROM onto my device.
Honestly, the A2 has great performance, it is not top of the line, but it is certainly pretty high end. It has a decent feel overall, but still know one knows about it. Why is this?!!? I'm not even talking strictly from a development standpoint, as it is just so unheard of. everyone knows about the whole droid line and such, but our great phone is completely neglected. There is no way i'm the only one that is bothered by this, especially because there is so much potential in our phone. I know the locked bootloader, makes things difficult, but a way around that is near, so do y'all think development will take off once we get it bypassed or unlocked? Thanks for listening to my rant and feel free to give your own opinion
Motorola or Att did not push this phone like they did with the original Atrix. Most people are going with samsung (sgs2 or the note). That is why we do not have very many devs. Samsung phone are much easier to work with. I know because i have one. If no one else decides to get this phone that's fine with me. I like the phone as is. Im also happy with the few devs we have. Their work is greatly appreciated.
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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you aren't the only one. It pisses me off. I always have service on this phone, for the most part it's fast and smooth, and the ROM support is becoming awesome. Yet still people don't know the name of my phone , they just know it's "big"
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
Motorola did not advertise or really let ANYONE know that the phone was being released. For example, when I walked into the AT&T store with a $100 and a contract renewal, I just browsed/tried all of the phones they had in stock, and happend to like the feature set/performance of the Atrix 2 the best. The funny part is that I had NO idea that the phone actually came out the day before and was just put on display. Luckily the phone is great and the community to go along with it is even greater.
Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Freezing apps does wonders for performance + battery life. I use Titanium Backup for this. All the "junk apps" that Motorola/AT&T installed (that I don't use) get frozen.
The End.
Some of our roms are great, but there are only 4 or 5 or something, it would be nice to see some of the big ones like cm7. hopefully an unlocked BL and ICS will spark some serious development. I think the biggest problem is the lack of serious developers. Who do we really have? Jimbridgman, lfabor06, and Rdavisct are the only ones I can really think of off the top of my head. We all play a role, but only the true genius' like them do a lot of good towards roms and things
To buy an Atrix 2, I had to special order it from Amazon. The local places didn't sell it because it didn't work with LTE in the area, and were mainly pushing iStuff.
Motorola needs to wake up and start tooting their own horn. The Atrix 2 has been an excellent phone, both in the reception department (better voice and call quality than my HTC and iPhone), CPU department, and in general usage.
Plus, there is an untapped market for these types of phones -- business people who just need a basic laptop where all their data is stored securely at one place, either on the phone with the on device encryption (or SD encryption), or using a Citrix receiver.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
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This really is the truth of the matter. Until we can load custom kernels on the A2, the devs are kinda limited on what they can modify. ICS with a locked bootloader is not much better than GB with a locked bootloader.
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy and the A2 is better in almost every area; reception, interface, speaker...
OK, I confess it... I'm a root-n-rom-aholic! Nook color, my old just-replaced Droid X, and my new Nexus 7 all have had many ROMs, kernels, etc. and I've enjoyed, well, most of it.
Now may be different. For starters, I'm a consultant, my phone is tool first, toy second (tablet the other way around). It HAS to work, which is why I ended up custom ROMing my DX - I went through 4 phones before I realized, its the software, stupid! My N7 allows me to continue what I started with my old Nook, only now making a good machine even better.
With the S3, things are a bit different...
First, the darn thing works pretty well, other than battery life, and that may change with then next OTA update to JB. While I'm not very fond of the old ICS interface, in general, if it ain't broke, don't fix it?
Second, unlike my old DX, its still under guarantee, and while I think I could recover from any 'brick,' there is always the chance of not...
and replacement would NOT be inexpensive.
Third, I don't miss root-level backup as much as I might - because all my apk's are backed up from the N7 installation if I ever needed to recover them; data is another matter, as is setting up my Apex launcher, but all doable if I'm stuck.
Anyway, I think right now I'm going to wait for the OTA to JB, see if 'rooting' is still possible after that, then we'll see..
just my $.02
regards, jf
I'll probably mess around somewhat but I've slowly eased off too. My OG Droid ran every ROM available at one point or another. Working camera? Meh, not a big deal.
My Incredible 2 was a little mroe reserved. It worked well with Sense and i didn't like AOSP on it, thoguht it felt weird. So i stuck with a nearly stock Sense 2.1 setup.
SGS3 is better yet. I want to try AOSP but the epic camera app in TW has me shying away, I don't want to lose those features. Do'nt care about the sharesshot or anything but other things are really awesome. On top of that, it has to be stable and everything has to work.
Running Synergy now, mainly because I got too sick and tired of VZ Backup Assistant Plus trying to back **** up.
I'm with you on staying stock for now. Prior to me going with the iPhone full-time, custom ROMs where the best way for me to get a stable experience on my old devices due to the bloated nature of manufacturer custom skins back in the day.
Now that I switched from the iPhone to Android with the Galaxy S3, I don't feel the need to use a custom ROM to get good performance. The only temptation for me to move to JB is for Google Now, but I don't want to lose some of the features of TouchWiz...namely the camera app.
- VDubb
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If you wait until the next OTA, rooting may be likely, but you may be stuck with kexec if it breaks our current method of unlocking the bootloader. Adam Outler specifically stated that flashing the leaked aboot image on an OTA other the our current will most likely brick your GS3, so I'd unlock and root now then wait for the next JB OTA to be ported.
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Coming from the OG Droid Incredible I miss some root level things -- but I still haven't rooted yet. I think what I'll do is wait for a stable CM rom to be released, make sure to wait it out a bit for some common problems to occur, then go through it.
Some grips I have about the phone, for example the home button is nice.. there was a physical button on the Dinc, it wasn't anything new. Except the fact it wakes the screen. The phone is in my pocket.. seriously.
Messaging app stinks, but so does everything else on the Play store. CM7 messaging app -- I want that back.
Music player stinks, too much bling. If I wanted power amp, I would buy it (and that's better).
The hardware.. now this is where everything shines. The camera is awesome, fast, no slow downs. The 2GB of RAM is nice too with multiasking.
Playing DK 64 and going back and forth was a dream with my Dinc. Not anymore. USB OTG, even better with my USB drives, keyboard/mouse or even wired controllers.
The phone is great while stock, minus some opinions.. you can't please everyone. Some things deserve a toggle though, such as the home button wake screen = off or on? Choices like that would make the Sammy experience even better.
Stable CM for Verizon will be released sometime.. (hopefully). :good:
Im in love with root level access. I started out with the OG Droid. Went thru 4 of those, on purpose. 3 Droid X. 2 Droid Eris. 2 Droid 2. and got 2 SGS3, one for me and one for my sister.
All of which were rooted and rom'd. All except for my sisters. I see no difference in usability with the S3. Just being rom'd allows me to access options quicker.
I use my phone for work and it has not failed me yet.
Only issues sometimes is the forced reboots.
Every device i have ever owned, i have modified it to allow root access. Computers, Tablets, Apple products, Game consoles, and Android.
Just like you im a root n rom aholic.
hi i am new on your among and i'm user of htc one x at&t v2.20.i have less information about costum and stock roms.i was surfing on forum and i saw this stock rom.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838135&page=11
and i'm thinking install this my phone but i didn't find how can i setup.there should unlock bootloader for costum roms.is the same thing
must be for install stock rom.and what do you think about stock roms.should i prefer costum rom?
You can prefer whatever you personally like. Unfortunately you are currently stuck with what you've got until 2.20 is rooted and bl unlocked so you can flash away and find the rom that suits your needs best.
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Yea bro... Do a lot of research, BC it'll be a while before you can root and unlock :thumbdown:
But to add an opinion about your question, once you flash a new rom, you'll probably stick with it for a little while. Then see something else and try it. Then you'll get that blood taste in your mouth and become a flash a holic. Lol. There are some absolutely INCREDIBLE sense roms. Viperxl, cleanrom, team nocturnal are some of the few. But then you'll get tired of sense and try an aosp ROM and you'll love that. Its a weird process bro. I feel like I flash every 2-3 weeks, bouncing from jellybean to sense. Both are awesome.
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Honestly man, I am a serious flashaholic, and although in no way am I implying that stock is better in any fashion I will say that stock 2.20 has been a pleasure to be on. So much so that I have set aside ALL of my other toys and been using my One X full time. granted I am using Apex launcher only because it achieves a basic look I am used to, but that is it. I am actually really enjoying this, if nothing else EVERYTHING works. My battery hasnt been this good on any rom or any of my previous devices. I had 5 hours 48 minutes screen on time last night, sure I only talked on my phone about 2 minutes, and kept my screen brightness on 10%, but for me, that is still the most insane number I have EVER been able to put up and the phone was on 18% when I plugged it in.
I dont know if this phone will ever get rooted but it is not stopping me from using it, I have found cool apps that I would have never known even existed like Notification Toggle, I was getting pretty annoyed having to use a power control widget for my data and wifi, I NEED it to be in the dropdown, the app remedied that situation AND I can make it whatever color I want....HUGE bonus to me. I love Android, and like I said, it is not a replacement for roms, but its a fine substitution for now. The phone performs sweet so its not like I would need to overclock, undervolting, I have never liked the amount of BS you have to wade through to get it perfect, and battery has been fine for me anyway.
Sure a nice CLEAN CM rom, or even stripped stock, is nice but I am just going to enjoy using this thing for a while. Being a Sammy fanboy forever has given me the ability to flash a thousand roms, and although there is some things to be missed, I have no regrets about this phone. I personally dont have devices long enough to think like it is going to kill me to use it for a while. It looks beautiful, not a lot of people have them, so everywhere I go people are asking what phone I have....which....yeah, I think is cool, and everyone likes it.
Last, for me personally the phone has caused me to start peering into areas I have not even thought about in a long time, I have spent countless hours reading thread after thread for possible ways we can get this bootloader unlocked or even root this puppy. It has actually been nice spending time doing, what I joined XDA to learn about doing .
As mentioned, if you bought the phone with 2.20 (or OTA'ed to 2.20 before unlocking the bootloader or at least SuperCID) than you can't flash anything. You are stuck to official AT&T firmware.
The 2.29 stock firmware you linked is not much different from 2.20 AT&T stock, anyway. I think they are the same, actually, aside from AT&T's bloatware.
Coming from an Aria with CM7, the biggest things I want to fix on my One X with 2.20 is to ditch the bloat. This phone rocks very nicely even on the stock ROM, but it's like a car with enough power to do 200 mph limited to 155.
If there is any way a relative noob like myself can help with getting 2.20 rooted, I'm in, but I wouldn't know where to start at this point.