Root or not Root ... - Asus Transformer TF700

I would like to root my TF700 but at same time I do not want to loose my warranty. in this forum, I found a thread saying that rooting doesn't void the warranty and another thread saying the contrary.
On Asus France facebook page, somebody asked Asus if the root would void the warranty and Asus answered yes. And another person (not from Asus) said : "we all know that rooting the software has huge impact on hardware issues, on keyboard for example"
I just don't know what to think about that and i hesitate to root my TF700 while I would like to.
What is your opinion on that ? Is that man right about impact on hardware issues ?
Thanks

Rooting doesn't void warranty. Unlocking the bootloader does.
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Well Asus says exactly the contrary... Do you have any real reason to explain why rooting cannot void warranty ?
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Ghorin said:
Well Asus says exactly the contrary... Do you have any real reason to explain why rooting cannot void warranty ?
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I would put this way, rooting allowed you to gain additional access to the STOCK rom (kind of safe because worst case, you have soft brick), on the other hand unlock bootloader allows you to replace the stock rom , the kernel and recovery with your own which can cause damage to the device and can brick your phone.

Thanks man
One more question : isit possible that i damaged the hardware of my tf700 with rooting but without unlocking ?
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Ghorin said:
Thanks man
One more question : isit possible that i damaged the hardware of my tf700 with rooting but without unlocking ?
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nope perfectly safe and I recommend you do it. You have nothing but more gain! Very safe and super easy. With just root I can make my tab working smoothly as I want.

I was hesitant to root initially.
Then I said heck on it and rooted.
With a few tweaks the tab is doing much better in my opinion.

Which tweaks are you speaking about?

mouse100 said:
Which tweaks are you speaking about?
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Installed System Tuner and with a root I can force all CPU cores on line for break neck gaming performance.
woo double hoo...

Thats OK said:
Installed System Tuner and with a root I can force all CPU cores on line for break neck gaming performance.
woo double hoo...
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Hi, do you mind sharing how you set your System Tuner? I've just downloaded it and there are so many options there. I have no idea where to start
Thank you.

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Hi, do you mind sharing how you set your System Tuner? I've just downloaded it and there are so many options there. I have no idea where to start
Thank you.
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No problem
If your rooted tap the CPU option then look above the freq sliders.
You'll see "gov." on the left. Tap gov. Then choose yer poison should be: interactive, conservative, performance...etc.
You can push the sliders all the way right too.
The battery doesn't last very long and the tablet will hit around 140 degrees when set on performance.
I've also got mine on the recommended advanced tweaks in the system control options.
I'm not any kind of expert with the settings either...just found a few things dabbling around.
Be careful and have a blast!
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@OP - rooting does not void your warranty. Even if Asus were to deny any warranty coverage to a rooted product (which I don't think they do), rooting is always reversible, so as long as you unroot before sending it to them, they would never know it was ever rooted... I think that's why most people say that rooting does not void the warranty - simply because it can be un-done. Technically, Asus will probably tell you that it does void the warranty (as you've seen), but if you unroot before sending it to them, then there will be no issue.
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Thats OK said:
No problem
If your rooted tap the CPU option then look above the freq sliders.
You'll see "gov." on the left. Tap gov. Then choose yer poison should be: interactive, conservative, performance...etc.
You can push the sliders all the way right too.
The battery doesn't last very long and the tablet will hit around 140 degrees when set on performance.
I've also got mine on the recommended advanced tweaks in the system control options.
I'm not any kind of expert with the settings either...just found a few things dabbling around.
Be careful and have a blast!
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Do you know what does the recommended advanced tweaks ? Is it tweaks specific to the tf700 or more general android optimization ?
Moreover are you using the free or pro version of System Tuner ? On my tablet it's asking pro version to use that option.
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Ghorin said:
Do you know what does the recommended advanced tweaks ? Is it tweaks specific to the tf700 or more general android optimization ?
Moreover are you using the free or pro version of System Tuner ? On my tablet it's asking pro version to use that option.
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I'm really not qualified to answer about specific tweaks under advanced options.
I just trusted and tried the recommended setting...there are quite a few tweak sliders.
I did notice in some cases good things: specifically less browser crashing.
Since Sys Tuner is used across many devices the Sys Ctrl option tweaks are for the Android kernel.
No telling at this point what a 4.1 update will do to this app.
Did notice the developer made some changes in the late versions concerning JellyBean.
I think the changes were aimed at the Nexus 7 owners.
I bought the pro app for 4 bucks it's one of my favorites.
I actually started using it when I had the A700, it was recommended by another user to watch the temps on that tablet.
I started liking it so I just paid for it.
Ran it un-rooted for a while, then I started wanting see what root access would give me.
So I went ahead and rooted.
I have to say it's the app that caused me to root...
My problem is I can't leave anything alone... :angel:
Hope I don't end up cooking my tablet if I do Asus will make more LOL

Thats OK said:
No problem
If your rooted tap the CPU option then look above the freq sliders.
You'll see "gov." on the left. Tap gov. Then choose yer poison should be: interactive, conservative, performance...etc.
You can push the sliders all the way right too.
The battery doesn't last very long and the tablet will hit around 140 degrees when set on performance.
I've also got mine on the recommended advanced tweaks in the system control options.
I'm not any kind of expert with the settings either...just found a few things dabbling around.
Be careful and have a blast!
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Thanks for that! I set it to Performance, there is a small difference I think, in overall responsiveness. I'll leave it this way for a while and then switch back to see if in my day to day usage the difference justifies the battery drain.

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Overclocking

To those rooted users, are you overclocking, undervolting? What app / method are you using? How is it working for you in terms of stability and battery life?
I just installed EZOverClock, set at Power Save - 1ghz. This is an overclock app for the Prime that works on our device as well. If you are interested in checking this out, the apk can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526311
I am hoping for some solid battery savings without compromising performance on games such as MC3.
I find it hard to believe that I am the only one overclocking this device?
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I dunno man I haven't found a way to get root yet haha For the others I have no idea
David Dee said:
To those rooted users, are you overclocking, undervolting? What app / method are you using? How is it working for you in terms of stability and battery life?
I just installed EZOverClock, set at Power Save - 1ghz. This is an overclock app for the Prime that works on our device as well. If you are interested in checking this out, the apk can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526311
I am hoping for some solid battery savings without compromising performance on games such as MC3.
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I'm underclocking using system tuner pro, setting max cpu at 880mhz when not playing games. As for undervolting afaik is not possible yet, at least in the stock rom.
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Im overclocking it to 1.4 Ghz 100% of the time using antutu cpu master.
I havnt experienced any significant battery droppage and it seems to help load some of my large games faster. overall I like having it OC'd.
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jgaf said:
I'm underclocking using system tuner pro, setting max cpu at 880mhz when not playing games. As for undervolting afaik is not possible yet, at least in the stock rom.
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What speed do you take it up to for gaming? Why do you use system tuner pro vs. easyoverclock?
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What speed do you take it up to for gaming? Why do you use system tuner pro vs. easyoverclock?
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I have run the games at 880mhz and they run pretty much the same, but when my pad is not connected to a power outlet I set it at 1.1ghz to run all the high end games (THD, etc.). If I have it connected I just max it at 1.5ghz
I don't use ezoverclock since it won't let me go lower than 1ghz and as far as I remember ezoverclock didn't have governors, STP lets me change governors (I'm always set at interactive).
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I have run the games at 880mhz and they run pretty much the same, but when my pad is not connected to a power outlet I set it at 1.1ghz to run all the high end games (THD, etc.). If I have it connected I just max it at 1.5ghz
I don't use ezoverclock since it won't let me go lower than 1ghz and as far as I remember ezoverclock didn't have governors, STP lets me change governors (I'm always set at interactive).
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Makes sense. Thanks @jgaf.
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No under volting until we get get a custom kernel.... That's what I'm waiting for then I'll unlock the bootloader.
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Do i have root to use that over clock app. I would to under clock at 800
tazz3 said:
Do i have root to use that over clock app. I would to under clock at 800
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Yes, you need root.
I only use OC for Testing, Benchmarks and 3D Games.
But must say when I run it on 1500Mhz and Performance for more than 45 Minutes the Pad gets really warm.
Im at 1.2ghz right now, might underclock some more.
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I did some testing and the kernel does not overclock to 1.5ghz its a miss read on the chip. 1.2ghz and 1.5ghz score the same on quadrant and antutu benchmark do this urself and see.
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deathskater said:
I did some testing and the kernel does not overclock to 1.5ghz its a miss read on the chip. 1.2ghz and 1.5ghz score the same on quadrant and antutu benchmark do this urself and see.
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I can confirm this, with the stock kernel even though I can set the CPU to 1.5 even when I set it to the "performance" setting (the CPU options one, not the Asus setting) I've never seen it go past 1.1 Ghz. I think if we want higher OC's we'll have to wait for custom kernel's. We'll probably lose the 3 performance modes that are built-in from ASUS but honestly, anyone who's rooting and OC'ing shouldn't be using options that basic anyways.
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SilentStormer said:
I can confirm this, with the stock kernel even though I can set the CPU to 1.5 even when I set it to the "performance" setting (the CPU options one, not the Asus setting) I've never seen it go past 1.1 Ghz. I think if we want higher OC's we'll have to wait for custom kernel's. We'll probably lose the 3 performance modes that are built-in from ASUS but honestly, anyone who's rooting and OC'ing shouldn't be using options that basic anyways.
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Yes but the options are just underclocking
Powersave- 1ghz
Balanced-1.1ghz
Performance-1.2ghz
The battery consumption difference between powersave and performance is minimal been testing this myself.. but to be honest after buildprop tweak an overclockis not needed everything runs at optimal performance. Only thing i see overclocking for right now is show off high numbers.
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SilentStormer said:
I can confirm this, with the stock kernel even though I can set the CPU to 1.5 even when I set it to the "performance" setting (the CPU options one, not the Asus setting) I've never seen it go past 1.1 Ghz. I think if we want higher OC's we'll have to wait for custom kernel's. We'll probably lose the 3 performance modes that are built-in from ASUS but honestly, anyone who's rooting and OC'ing shouldn't be using options that basic anyways.
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So... Is CPU Spy wrong?
dunno, In my experience I've never been able to pass 1.2 Ghz
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SilentStormer said:
dunno, In my experience I've never been able to pass 1.2 Ghz
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How are you checking? Are you using CPU Spy or a different app? I'll use whichever app you use and see if overclocking really works.
Antutu CPU master.
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TF300T Kernels??

Few questions in reference to the Kernel for the Transformer....
1) Any devs working on a OC'able Kernel for the TF300T?
2) Will a Kernel from any of the other variations of the Transformer work? I know there is a few for the TF201 or 200 whatever its called.
Thats all i really have for now question wise... as usual thanks for any replies and help.
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XperianceIT said:
Few questions in reference to the Kernel for the Transformer....
1) Any devs working on a OC'able Kernel for the TF300T?
2) Will a Kernel from any of the other variations of the Transformer work? I know there is a few for the TF201 or 200 whatever its called.
Thats all i really have for now question wise... as usual thanks for any replies and help.
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I would also like to know when/if there comes a OC kernel fro tf300t/tg Tf201 kernel should work? basicaly the same hardware?
Tf200 kernel wont work right if at all. Having basically the same hardware isnt good enough. The camera is different, the memory is diffent, its the same cpu but its clocked different, the screen is different ect....
Hang tight im sure one will be released soon the devs seem to be doing there thing. Besides you can oc to 1.5 ghz now, how much more do you really need. I know i like to see how far i can push it, but in reality whats a couple of hundred mhz going to do? This tablet runs great in power saving mode let alone preformance.
i like to test the limits on the cpu as well, in my opinion every little bit helps. why have 1.5 when i can have 1.8ghz or maybe more... lol
allram said:
I would also like to know when/if there comes a OC kernel fro tf300t/tg Tf201 kernel should work? basicaly the same hardware?
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DonĀ“t try to flash a 201 Kernel. A friend on Android Hilfe tried and now his pad is totally bricked.
i wouldnt do it unless it was confirmed to work... im not totally crazy... lol
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[Q] quadrant score

Hi, I am getting extremely low quadrant score. I am on stock rom but I think it wont affect score that much. So is this only my problem ?
(extremely low for what it should be, like 3500+ I think )
Edit: Antutu score is 7945
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That's quite low. I'm running stock rom and getting 4592 without any tweaks.
I guess you could try stopping all running apps with something like the ASUS task manager, then give it another go.
Also turning off Force GPU Rendering in Developer Options helped a lot for the score as well.
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That's quite low. I'm running stock rom and getting 4592 without any tweaks.
I guess you could try stopping all running apps with something like the ASUS task manager, then give it another go.
Also turning off Force GPU Rendering in Developer Options helped a lot for the score as well.
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And make sure you run it in performance mode (this is "duh" but you never know).
Yeah I killed all apps and turned off 2d forcing thing and now it is 4350, pretty close to your's. thank you guys
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Great!

Stock tweaks

I know I might get flamed for this, but I don't feel like ROMing. With that in mind, are there tweaks that I can do to make my TF700 run any faster?
Thanks
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jp555soul said:
I know I might get flamed for this, but I don't feel like ROMing. With that in mind, are there tweaks that I can do to make my TF700 run any faster?
Thanks
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With pure stock, no root and locked bootloader - enable force 2gpu in settings ->developer option. ...That about it!
With pure stock rooted and locked bootloader - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160 , and install browser2ram for smooth browsing.
But the true performance, with smooth, fast and snappy - unlocked and rooted with Cleanrom, Clemsync kernel and data2sd. It's like driving a race car versus a ford Pinto.

Is overclocking worth it?

Ok so I'm a bit new to the community in terms of tablet hardware and wanted to understand the concept of overclocking now from what I've heard the Asus tf300t has the capability to be increased to 1.5ghz it's stock is 1.3 I believe so my question is:
what are the basic benefits of overclocking.
How do you go about doing it? (app, or what not)
What damages can be done if done incorrectly. (boot loop or brick)
If this isn't the right place to post this direct me to someplace better please! Thank you!
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You'll need to flash another Kernal. There are various guides on this forum depending on what firmware you're on
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
Benefit is basically making your tablet faster and smother under heavy tasks such as gaming. Light tasks wont be affected much.
In order to over clock, you need custom kernel and a software that allows you to over clock or under clock. My favorite is set CPU which is paid ( there are tons of CPU app)
If you over clock too much, tablet will become very unstable and also CPU can overheat much easier which can lead to hardware failure. I recommend you to overclock up to 1.6 max if you ever gonna over clock.
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bottom line yes. its a night and day difference on this device. at least mine.
kaos420 said:
bottom line yes. its a night and day difference on this device. at least mine.
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I second this when playing games. I do also see a very slight difference in normal day to day use. Just dont overvolt, that i heard is bad for the chip and greatly shortens the length of the chip. Overclocking isnt as bad for it.
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Ah ok so you do need a custom kernel/rom in order to gain access to overclocking. Well I've had problems before with flashing custom roms(soft bricked) and I'm kinda hesitant about it but I mean I've ran emulation on 1.3ghz and it runs smooth like for epsxe. I guess it's a matter of preference really?
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I think that it is worth to unlock if you use a 1tb hard disk. It is more useful to overlock GPU as it will boost your perfomance in UI and games.
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Overclock improved my tablet experience
When I was running cleanrom 3.4.1 and Unters TF300T 10.4.4.25 Kernel I had it O/C'ed to 1.6.
The ui and games like beach buggy blitz , dead trigger ran noticeably smoother .
Now I'm bac on stock android 4.2.1 from Asus website its nowhere near as smooth probably not even as smooth as stock 4.1.2 imo.
ya im on cm10.1 at the moment. over clocked to 1.6ghz currently. i find whether it was clean rom 3.4.4 or cm10.1 1.6ghz seems to be my tablets sweet spot. with my tablet and dock together on cm10.1 i have lasted like 4 days unplugged laying around with daily use for alittle bit. grand theft auto final fantasy dead trigger. all play so smooth.
Tergrak over clock let's you over clock any ROM, you don't need a custom ROM or kernel just root. Its on the play store.
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+1 for overclocking. You can run the tablet at the lower speeds to save the battery when just messing around but you have the option to turn it up when needed. I overclock every device I own if possible. :good:
markymark567 said:
Tergrak over clock let's you over clock any ROM, you don't need a custom ROM or kernel just root. Its on the play store.
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are you sure it works? TF300 is not listed on "supported devices" and one review from this tablet said that this tablet is not supported
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kyokeun1234 said:
are you sure it works? TF300 is not listed on "supported devices" and one review from this tablet said that this tablet is not supported
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Hmmm sorry bout that. Your right it looks like its only for Samsung chip sets. I do apologize, I'll see if there is a similar app and I'll try tegrak on my nexus 7
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The only time clock my TF300 is I am gaming. Very smooth and fast!:good:

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