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I bought a phone with specifications that say there exists 768MB of RAM and 4GB of ROM, yet I can only access 1GB of that ROM.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
What's going on here? I read an explanation about SLC and MLC but that would cut the ROM in half, not into a quarter, of what it should be.
I really hate HTC sometimes - they promise so much and then you get the thing and it doesn't even come close to living up to expectations!
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I really hate HTC sometimes - they promise so much and then you get the thing and it doesn't even come close to living up to expectations!
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its the same way with ANY company, not just HTC. I don't understand why everyone gets in a bunch with phone memory. Go buy a 500 gb hdd from any other brand and tell me how much you can access. No one *****es about that though??
you are close on the formatting issues though. The ROM is originally 4gb, but is formatted for speed since the system files are stored on it. This cuts the storage space in HALF (like you said) since it becomes single layer. So we are down to 2gb, but the OS is also installed on this space. This takes up nearly 1 gb, which leaves us at ~1 gb usable space.
There is another thread around here that goes into quite a bit a of detail, and really makes for a funny read with one dude claiming this 4gb chip is not even installed in our phones and that the OS is SOMEHOW installed on the 768mb RAM chip. Hopefully someone posts the link because it really was quite entertaining.
buddy17 said:
its the same way with ANY company, not just HTC. I don't understand why everyone gets in a bunch with phone memory. Go buy a 500 gb hdd from any other brand and tell me how much you can access. No one *****es about that though??
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Not true, you buy a 500GB HDD and you get a 500GB HDD, it just depends on how you calculate it.
Let's look at a 16GB micro SD card for example. You start out with 16GB, which is 16,000 MB, or 16,000,000 KB, or 16,000,000,000 Bytes. So to get from 16,000,000,000 Bytes to Gigabytes, you divide by 1000 3 times. Unfortunately, this is not how an OS will compute the size of a drive. It will divide by 1024, thus:
16,000,000,000 Bytes/1024
=15,625,000 KB/1024
=15,258.79 MB/1024
=14.9 GB which should be roughly the amount of storage space that your OS will tell you you have.
Hope this helps
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Thought I would include a calculation for a 500GB HDD just for reference:
=500,000,000,000 B/1024
=488,281,250 KB/1024
=476,837.16 MB/1024
=465.66 GB which should be very roughly what the size of your drive will be reported as by your OS.
that doesn't help at all....because i was just using it as a reference. The specifics don't matter. You buy a 500gb hdd, you hook it up to your computer, it shows 465gb that you can store stuff on.
We are told we have a 4gb ROM chip (like buying a 500gb hdd), it gets installed in our phone, formatted a certain way, and OS installed along with a few other things, and we end up with 1gb we can store stuff on.
same difference. the hdd is misadvertised because of how the OS calculates the space, our ROM is misadvertised by the way it is formatted.
buddy17 said:
same difference. the hdd is misadvertised because of how the OS calculates the space, our ROM is misadvertised by the way it is formatted.
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Exactly this. When I buy a hard drive I expect the discrepancy and factor it into my purchase if needed. With something like a phone, I see 4gb of storage and unless told otherwise am assuming that is usable space.
The simple fact of the matter is, a company is going to advertise the highest possible spec and number of their product they can represent. How much you actually can use varies, but it's all there in the hardware. The amount available to us is still plenty.
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The amount available to us is still plenty.
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exactly THIS!! especially with an 8gb external card included. if you plan to use the thing as a music machine then sure, invest in a bigger card. Even without apps2sd, it would be a challenge for 90% of people to fill up that 1gb internal
buddy17 said:
exactly THIS!! especially with an 8gb external card included. if you plan to use the thing as a music machine then sure, invest in a bigger card. Even without apps2sd, it would be a challenge for 90% of people to fill up that 1gb internal
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Just another example - anyone check their free space on a freshly formatted XBox360 Drive? A 20GB drive you'll only see about 10-12GB of. My 250GB drive I'm pretty sure started out with 196GB free.
And, for the 3rd or 4th time (as this thread has shown up plenty of times before), here is the response I got from HTC regarding the the memory, showing they clearly don't see this as an 'issue':
Dear User,
I understand the importance of being able to use the fully memory capacity of your HTC Inspire 4G. The 4GB of ROM on your device is shared with the operating system and all programs that are pre-installed on the device. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced through this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW09ENA001776.
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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buddy17 said:
its the same way with ANY company, not just HTC. I don't understand why everyone gets in a bunch with phone memory. Go buy a 500 gb hdd from any other brand and tell me how much you can access. No one *****es about that though??
you are close on the formatting issues though. The ROM is originally 4gb, but is formatted for speed since the system files are stored on it. This cuts the storage space in HALF (like you said) since it becomes single layer. So we are down to 2gb, but the OS is also installed on this space. This takes up nearly 1 gb, which leaves us at ~1 gb usable space.
There is another thread around here that goes into quite a bit a of detail, and really makes for a funny read with one dude claiming this 4gb chip is not even installed in our phones and that the OS is SOMEHOW installed on the 768mb RAM chip. Hopefully someone posts the link because it really was quite entertaining.
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This is 100% correct This is the link your talking about, explains what happens to the internal storage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000094&page=2
I was told I was wrong though, and apparently I should take a class to learn how how these things work.
Krisbo said:
Not true, you buy a 500GB HDD and you get a 500GB HDD, it just depends on how you calculate it.
Let's look at a 16GB micro SD card for example. You start out with 16GB, which is 16,000 MB, or 16,000,000 KB, or 16,000,000,000 Bytes. So to get from 16,000,000,000 Bytes to Gigabytes, you divide by 1000 3 times. Unfortunately, this is not how an OS will compute the size of a drive. It will divide by 1024, thus:
16,000,000,000 Bytes/1024
=15,625,000 KB/1024
=15,258.79 MB/1024
=14.9 GB which should be roughly the amount of storage space that your OS will tell you you have.
Hope this helps
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Thought I would include a calculation for a 500GB HDD just for reference:
=500,000,000,000 B/1024
=488,281,250 KB/1024
=476,837.16 MB/1024
=465.66 GB which should be very roughly what the size of your drive will be reported as by your OS.
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Close...but 16GB = 16,384MB and 500GB = 512,000MB.
1GB = 1024MB
matt310 said:
Close...but 16GB = 16,384MB and 500GB = 512,000MB.
1GB = 1024MB
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Not so close, he was correct but yours would be 16GiB = 16,384MiB.
16GB = 16,000MB
(sorry, don't kill me I didn't make the rules!)
di11igaf said:
This is 100% correct This is the link your talking about, explains what happens to the internal storage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000094&page=2
I was told I was wrong though, and apparently I should take a class to learn how how these things work.
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LMAO wow that Bella guy/girl whatever is a COMPLETE moron!
di11igaf said:
This is 100% correct This is the link your talking about, explains what happens to the internal storage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000094&page=2
I was told I was wrong though, and apparently I should take a class to learn how how these things work.
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LOL thats the one! This should be nominated for Thread of the Year
I understand what people are saying about the formatting, the OS, etc., however, coming from a Captivate and actually getting my 16GB of storage PLUS my external storage, it is a bit ****ty on HTC's part to advertise 4GB when you can only use 1GB - I might as well still have my EVO if I wanted 1GB of internal storage - at least the EVO held on to a signal...
With HTC, its always SOMETHING. First with the Windows Mobile phones, they didn't give us graphics drivers for the Imageon chip in the phones. With the EVO, they started cheaping out on the display type and some of them were noticeably yellow. The Mogul had overheating issues (I personally went through 7 of them before they finally gave me the Touch Pro 2). Now they're misrepresenting device specifications.
The only ***** I had about Samsung was their total lack of providing updates for their devices. Hell I dropped my Captivate I don't know how many times and the screen doesn't have a single chip in it, even the time it fell on the ground face-first.
I'm just saying that instead of sitting here and saying "it is how it is formatted," we should be writing letters to HTC letting them know that the behavior is unacceptable. Yeah we have external storage through our microSD cards but internal storage tends to be quite a bit faster, at least that's how it was with my Captivate.
If you are that worried about it, then seriously, just go grab another captivate and hang out over there. I'm so tired of everyone getting their panties in a wad over this. It sounds like you don't like the inspire nearly as much as the captivate if you have only one complaint on the captivate vs 5 for HTC. Or quit complaining, buy a bigger sd card and get over it.
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I hated my Captivate...
Battery life was rubbish, screen was oversaturated and hard ot the eyes after extended periods, it was laggy, buggy, no updates, a pain to unlock, vibrate was too weak, the entire time I owned it I didn't once get a GPS lock (no matter how long I waited) and I often had market issues.
My $0.02, only a real jack of clubs would prefer the Captivate.
Hello,
I will probably buy this phone: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/jiayu-g3t. I have a question. I read that this phone has 4gb rom, but no internal storage for new apps, downloaded from store and other websites, and so on. Is this true?
Don't buy a chinese phone,
it might have bad system software, there might be lies, you get no support and 4GB is very very low, trust me. You'll get like 2-3GB usable space and that's very small.
Daniel120201 said:
Don't buy a chinese phone,
it might have bad system software, there might be lies, you get no support and 4GB is very very low, trust me. You'll get like 2-3GB usable space and that's very small.
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My friend has Jiayu phone and it is very good. But what do you think about the internal storage?
If you want to play games or install a couple of apps 4GB is pretty low. You can put an SDcard in there but still 4GB isn't very good. MediaTek is not a great CPU either
The app storage is actually 2,5GB. Bigger apps install to sd card by default and smaller ones can be moved from settings/apps. I have all needed apps and about 4 hd games installes and still have about 1,6GB free. If you are the kind of person that installs 100+ big apps, maybe the 2,5gb could become a problem, otherwise you're ok. Oh, there's no media partition(most 4GB rom phones have only 1gb for apps) so a sd card is a must(can't even take pictures without it).
Decent phone, no lag, good camera, great screen, GPS wotks very well, GREAT battery life(for my normal usage, I get 5-7days with one charge). I suspect it should hold for 2 days even if you are a HEAVY user. The front is vey interesting, but the back is uninspiring(not ugly, just not on par with the front). No USB OTG, a bit heavy and large for a 4.5 inch screen(3000mAh battery...). Speaker(ringtones) and microphone are a bit weaker than my previous phone(Alcatel X'Pop), but they work ok.
All in all, a very decent dual-sim for the price. I love it.
Converter:
http://dx.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
Battery back to hold it in:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DM...5_QL70#ref=mp_s_a_1_14&qid=1393772453&sr=8-14
I figure you get the converter, then go out and back a back cover that will fit either just the stock battery and the converter...
Or get a little bit bigger one, and you might be able to fit a bigger battery in there too, I'm not sure if you can position both a battery that would take up all the space where it is, and try to fit the converter above it... cuz of the camera...
Anybody have any experience with this? I figure if your only interested in using bigger cards, This converter and a bigger back could have you with 256gb of storage on your device...I think it's worth the money to check out, I've seen a couple hard cases that would make room for this thing too.
There's images of it being 4.15 or 4.16 mm thick. So that's how much more room it'll be taking up underneath.
feedback?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658527
Nobody else interested in this huh? Hmmmm.
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Nobody else interested in this huh? Hmmmm.
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I think it currently comes down to 2 things: How will Android be handling external storage in the future, and how feasible it is now that 128GB MicroSD cards are available. Definitely a big thanks for pointing this out though.
Yeah I looked into it a bit more. I didn't realize they were charging so much money for the 128 and 256 gb sd cards. Doesn't make it worth it at all really. If the 256 ended up being cheaper than the micro128gb , then it might be worth it. But the amount of money people want for a 256gb sdcard is outrageous.
I seriously disagree with how small these cards are still. I can't be the only one who wants and could use a half a terabyte of space on my device? Can I be?
It isn't that I've got that much stuff I need on hand all the time, I just wish I didn't have to worry about space all the time. I wish I didn't have to always delete things to make room for others.
Having 75gb on my dropbox helps, but what do I do in a year when my free time is up? I ain't paying all that money for online space. That's even more ridiculous that the sd cards. Considering you'll eventually have to buy done sort of physical media to put it all on one your service time is up, or keep paying into infinity....
With where technology is, there's no excuse why we don't have 64gb devices as a standard right now, with 256 or 512gb micro sd's fit expansion. I hate marketing. They suck every penny out of you.
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I was just about to start a thread to ask this question. I'm interested in doing this mod. Just wondering if any one has else has and could you post some pics please. I seen the note 2 thread but the s4 it might be a tight fit. I've got the unu extended battery case but it doesn't have a lot of room underneath so think I might have to cut it.
There are a couple of issues you might run across though.. First being, wouldn't that just make the sd card read/write speeds wayyyyy too slow? And also, don't the phones have a limit on how much external storage they can use?
edit: oh jeez.. just saw how old the topic is... my apologies..
Thanks the reply. I thought sdxc supports upto 2tb. Thinking about sticking 512gb sd so I can carry round all my music. Thinking the sd might cover my flash though. I can't find anyone who's done this to an s4, only the note.
Get on my level goys
B0bby1985 said:
Thanks the reply. I thought sdxc supports upto 2tb. Thinking about sticking 512gb sd so I can carry round all my music. Thinking the sd might cover my flash though. I can't find anyone who's done this to an s4, only the note.
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See my pics above and get on my level.
So I'm thinking about buying the Moto X Style/Pure Edition, but I'm coming from a 64 GB OPO, so 16 GB isn't really going to cut it. To be economical I'm thinking about getting the 16 GB variant and adding an SD card. I haven't used an SD card with Android for years though, and I know a lot has changed. Performance-wise is an SD card going to be significantly worse than internal memory, and am I likely to run into lots of instances where apps won't let me install to the SD card? I install a lot of apps and also use a good amount of storage space for Google Play Music downloads.
I would say it depends on what you used that 64GB for. If you have a lot of big apps, 16GB isn't going to cut it. Even if you have a few, it'll be tight. If you keep movies or TV shows or a big music library on there, an SD card will do fine.
This of course will change in Android M which merges SD and internal memory. I still wouldn't recommend less than 32GB internal if you're coming from a 64. SD memory is inherently slower than internal, so just bear that in mind when you consider what you need the memory for. It'll playback a movie fine, but if you're putting apps on there it'll slowdown somewhat.
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Gotcha, that was pretty much what I figured but wanted to clarify. Thanks!
Hopefully they have a much faster sd slot on this one than the s7
Does anyone know yet if the SD slot on this will have UHS 2 or 3 speeds (confirmed the required pins, or seen a speed test off a demo phone with a fast card)?
I am also trying to find this out
Is it having a hybrid Sim slot???
lysaer said:
I am also trying to find this out
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The small storage + slow sd really hobbled the s7 for me. I can't wait to be rid of it at this point.
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The small storage + slow sd really hobbled the s7 for me. I can't wait to be rid of it at this point.
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I'm curious. I did a lot with my Note 3-4, V10, and V20. I never noticed any lag in anything running from SD card. I had a 200Gig card in the V10 and V20 and am not sure what was the issue with the SD cards. If anyone can explain what the issue was, I'd be really grateful.
sanjsrik said:
I'm curious. I did a lot with my Note 3-4, V10, and V20. I never noticed any lag in anything running from SD card. I had a 200Gig card in the V10 and V20 and am not sure what was the issue with the SD cards. If anyone can explain what the issue was, I'd be really grateful.
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The 32GB is just barely enough for my storage needs for things that can't be moved to the SD card. It was totally unusable for VR since that can't be put on the SD card. Giving out free Gear VR's with a 32GB phone was pretty silly actually. Luckily we still had an s6 with 128 to use the Gear with.
When any storage medium gets more than haf full you start to notice slow downs. It's MORE obvious on mechanical hard drives but it's still noticeable on ssd's an other solid state storage. It's definitely noticeable on the s7. I've done tests where I reset it instal just a few apps and it's BLAZING FAST, then I install my apps, email, texts, etc, fill it up, and bam it's a slug.
I spent 6 months COSTANTLY screwing around with moving things from the storage to the sd card. It's a tedious and annoying thing to have to do. Having come from the s6 with 128 and never needing to even thing about storage it really pissed me off to have to go backwards on my next gen phone.
So then I finally caved in and did adoptable storage. Well the thing is the internal storage is FAST until you fill it - it's still fast, but you do notice a lot of lagging just going from screen to screen. It clocks in the mid 200MBs. But the SD card is slow. I bought a UHS 3 card hoping it would match the internal ram. The card clocks at 280MBs in a uhs 3 usb 3 reader. It clocks in the 80's in the phone when it's empty. More like the 40's when it's filled with photos and music.
So doing adoptable storage means mixing a single volume with 280MBs and 80MBs storage. Which makes the phone EVEN Slower, but at least I don't have to screw around with moving stuff constantly anymore.
The thing is that people clamored for sd storage. I have no idea WHY they clamored for it. It's beyond inconvenient. It's not like you can pull it in and out since it's on the sim tray. And Samsung decided that in order to include it they had to stop making larger storage versions.
I think what we have is a case of be careful what you wish for.
It's far better to have larger FAST internal storage and a FAST usb connection than it is to have the stupid sd card.
That's my rant on this, but here's the bottom line summary:
1. The 32GB is incredibly inconvenient if you are heavy user like me with lots of stuff. Micromanaging the storage makes the phone a chore to use, and the full card slows the phone down a little bit.
2. Using adoptable storage is more convenient, but the slow SD slot makes the phone really really laggy - at least for a heavy user like me.
I've put my s6 128 next to my s7 edge with adoptable storage, and the s6 is way more responsive. I just can't go back to that small screen!! LOL
CptCrackers said:
The 32GB is just barely enough for my storage needs for things that can't be moved to the SD card. It was totally unusable for VR since that can't be put on the SD card. Giving out free Gear VR's with a 32GB phone was pretty silly actually. Luckily we still had an s6 with 128 to use the Gear with.
When any storage medium gets more than haf full you start to notice slow downs. It's MORE obvious on mechanical hard drives but it's still noticeable on ssd's an other solid state storage. It's definitely noticeable on the s7. I've done tests where I reset it instal just a few apps and it's BLAZING FAST, then I install my apps, email, texts, etc, fill it up, and bam it's a slug.
I spent 6 months COSTANTLY screwing around with moving things from the storage to the sd card. It's a tedious and annoying thing to have to do. Having come from the s6 with 128 and never needing to even thing about storage it really pissed me off to have to go backwards on my next gen phone.
So then I finally caved in and did adoptable storage. Well the thing is the internal storage is FAST until you fill it - it's still fast, but you do notice a lot of lagging just going from screen to screen. It clocks in the mid 200MBs. But the SD card is slow. I bought a UHS 3 card hoping it would match the internal ram. The card clocks at 280MBs in a uhs 3 usb 3 reader. It clocks in the 80's in the phone when it's empty. More like the 40's when it's filled with photos and music.
So doing adoptable storage means mixing a single volume with 280MBs and 80MBs storage. Which makes the phone EVEN Slower, but at least I don't have to screw around with moving stuff constantly anymore.
The thing is that people clamored for sd storage. I have no idea WHY they clamored for it. It's beyond inconvenient. It's not like you can pull it in and out since it's on the sim tray. And Samsung decided that in order to include it they had to stop making larger storage versions.
I think what we have is a case of be careful what you wish for.
It's far better to have larger FAST internal storage and a FAST usb connection than it is to have the stupid sd card.
That's my rant on this, but here's the bottom line summary:
1. The 32GB is incredibly inconvenient if you are heavy user like me with lots of stuff. Micromanaging the storage makes the phone a chore to use, and the full card slows the phone down a little bit.
2. Using adoptable storage is more convenient, but the slow SD slot makes the phone really really laggy - at least for a heavy user like me.
I've put my s6 128 next to my s7 edge with adoptable storage, and the s6 is way more responsive. I just can't go back to that small screen!! LOL
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oooohhhh, now it all makes sense. Thanks. I always used the 200Gig card so I never ran out of space. Then again, never used VR. I will now I guess with the new stuff from Samsung.
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oooohhhh, now it all makes sense. Thanks. I always used the 200Gig card so I never ran out of space. Then again, never used VR. I will now I guess with the new stuff from Samsung.
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I've never run out of space on the sd, but there's only certain things that can be put there, so it was always half empty with like 29-31 GB of stuff clogging up the internal storage.
The s7, for people like me, made you choose between convenience and speed. That's frustrating for a phone that came out in 2016. Especially when the 64 or 128 s6 gave you the best of both worlds.
I feel like the 64 in the s8 will be enough that if I fill it it will only be every few months so less maintenance. If it has a uhs 3 reader and does adoptable storage then it's the best of every possible world. Maximum options for the maximum number of use cases.
I saw a Tested.com podcast once where they brilliantly slammed the s7 and the iphone at 32GB. They pointed out that these are the two specific phones where the least technical people are going to buy, and in the end, they are the two phones that will need you to mess with them if you take a lot of pics or download a lot of music. Meaning that for a less technical person, it's better to have the larger storage and that Apple and Samsung needed to raise their bottom number in order to not cause grief for their most common customer: the less technical user who buys the lowest price one because they don't know any better.
I get a LOT of calls from IT customers asking me to help them figure out how to get stuff off their 32 GB iphone or Galaxy because it's full. I hate that call. I didn't get into IT to babysit customer's personal music collection.
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I've never run out of space on the sd, but there's only certain things that can be put there, so it was always half empty with like 29-31 GB of stuff clogging up the internal storage.
The s7, for people like me, made you choose between convenience and speed. That's frustrating for a phone that came out in 2016. Especially when the 64 or 128 s6 gave you the best of both worlds.
I feel like the 64 in the s8 will be enough that if I fill it it will only be every few months so less maintenance. If it has a uhs 3 reader and does adoptable storage then it's the best of every possible world. Maximum options for the maximum number of use cases.
I saw a Tested.com podcast once where they brilliantly slammed the s7 and the iphone at 32GB. They pointed out that these are the two specific phones where the least technical people are going to buy, and in the end, they are the two phones that will need you to mess with them if you take a lot of pics or download a lot of music. Meaning that for a less technical person, it's better to have the larger storage and that Apple and Samsung needed to raise their bottom number in order to not cause grief for their most common customer: the less technical user who buys the lowest price one because they don't know any better.
I get a LOT of calls from IT customers asking me to help them figure out how to get stuff off their 32 GB iphone or Galaxy because it's full. I hate that call. I didn't get into IT to babysit customer's personal music collection.
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I think I just lucked out that both the V10 and V20 both had 64G of memory.
Maybe UFS support
Hi Y'all.
If this holds water:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s8_s8plus_hands_on-review-1595.php
The card bay should be UFS supported like this:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3092436/storage/samsungs-blazing-fast-ufs-storage-cards-could-replace-micro-sd-media.html
But i haven't found confirmation anywhere else.
Regards
Elo
I have a 128gb sandisk extreme u3 in mine and it is working fine. Early adopter so i've had it since monday.
if anyone has any questions
http://imgur.com/a/PGnyL
zoramac said:
I have a 128gb sandisk extreme u3 in mine and it is working fine. Early adopter so i've had it since monday.
if anyone has any questions
http://imgur.com/a/PGnyL
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Looks liek passmark has a disk benchmark http://www.passmark.com/products/pt_mobile.htm. Whats the speed on that external SD card?
YellowGTO said:
Looks liek passmark has a disk benchmark http://www.passmark.com/products/pt_mobile.htm. Whats the speed on that external SD card?
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this is whats on Sandisk's website
Read Speed: up to 90MB/s5
Write Speed: up to 60MB/s5
Video Speed: C10, U3, V304
Form Factor: microSDXC
zoramac said:
I have a 128gb sandisk extreme u3 in mine and it is working fine. Early adopter so i've had it since monday.
if anyone has any questions
http://imgur.com/a/PGnyL
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this is whats on Sandisk's website
Read Speed: up to 90MB/s5
Write Speed: up to 60MB/s5
Video Speed: C10, U3, V304
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This thread is about the speed of the SD Card port, not the SD card itself.
Sorry, misunderstood. tried 3 different sd cards and they all fail in the passmark bench marking- unable to write..
fwiw a1 sd bench gives
73.9 read 51.1 write with the u3 card
zoramac said:
Sorry, misunderstood. tried 3 different sd cards and they all fail in the passmark bench marking- unable to write..
fwiw a1 sd bench gives
73.9 read 51.1 write with the u3 card
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Well that seems to be in line the U3 V30
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YellowGTO said:
Well that seems to be in line the U3 V30
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As usual they don't seem to be able to clearly mark the speed of anything. I have a Sandisk Extreme Plus, rated at 95mb read, 90mb write. But it says U3 and V30 on it. Which according to that table can only do 30mb (except it DOES do 95/90), this is due to the quoted speeds for V30 etc being minimum speeds and not set speeds.
Most people also get confused over U3 speeds and UHS III bus type (which has a second row of pins to enable faster speeds but most devices do not support), the UHS III bus has only recently been agreed apparently (https://petapixel.com/2017/02/25/uhs-iii-sd-card-standard-announced-maxes-insane-624mbs/) and there are no cards out yet for it, so youll only get UHS II at best on the S8 and theres no way the S8 will support UHS III. Whether it even supports UHS II, I don't know, it really shouldn't be that hard to tell since it requires a whole extra row of pins but I have seen a dozen threads in forums asking the same question and not a single answer so far, someone even asked Samsung support and as expected, they were useless.
It's like the USB-C/USB3.0/USB3.1 all over again where you need to be a detective to work out whether you get usb 3.0 speeds, 3.1 gen1 speeds (5gbps) (which are often also referred to as 3.0) or 3.1 gen2 speeds (10gbps) (which are often referred to as just 3.1) from a particular cable or device. When these geniuses setting these standards are incapable of even getting the NAMING of these things right, you know we are in trouble!
ewokuk said:
When these geniuses setting these standards are incapable of even getting the NAMING of these things right, you know we are in trouble!
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That's because the naming is done by marketing committee. More concerned with fancy pointless marketing names than really conveying what the technology is capable of. The 'name by committee' factor is in full effect too.
Averix said:
That's because the naming is done by marketing committee. More concerned with fancy pointless marketing names than really conveying what the technology is capable of. The 'name by committee' factor is in full effect too.
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Then they should all be sacked for being useless at their jobs. Marketing is pointless if you create endless confusion for consumers (not to mention the opportunity for scam sub standard products taking advantage of the stupid ambiguous naming). Rule number 1 should be crystal clarity on 'spec x = speed y' with no possible confusion between spec x y or z!
ewokuk said:
As usual they don't seem to be able to clearly mark the speed of anything. I have a Sandisk Extreme Plus, rated at 95mb read, 90mb write. But it says U3 and V30 on it. Which according to that table can only do 30mb (except it DOES do 95/90), this is due to the quoted speeds for V30 etc being minimum speeds and not set speeds.
Most people also get confused over U3 speeds and UHS III bus type (which has a second row of pins to enable faster speeds but most devices do not support), the UHS III bus has only recently been agreed apparently (https://petapixel.com/2017/02/25/uhs-iii-sd-card-standard-announced-maxes-insane-624mbs/) and there are no cards out yet for it, so youll only get UHS II at best on the S8 and theres no way the S8 will support UHS III. Whether it even supports UHS II, I don't know, it really shouldn't be that hard to tell since it requires a whole extra row of pins but I have seen a dozen threads in forums asking the same question and not a single answer so far, someone even asked Samsung support and as expected, they were useless.
It's like the USB-C/USB3.0/USB3.1 all over again where you need to be a detective to work out whether you get usb 3.0 speeds, 3.1 gen1 speeds (5gbps) (which are often also referred to as 3.0) or 3.1 gen2 speeds (10gbps) (which are often referred to as just 3.1) from a particular cable or device. When these geniuses setting these standards are incapable of even getting the NAMING of these things right, you know we are in trouble!
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It's a minimum of 30MBps. you can probably hit 90MBps if you transferred 1 file that's over 90MB. It would be considerably slower if you transfered 90000 1kb files. Same with all storage mediums.