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hi, i am planning on purchasing a sprint nexus s 4g. i already have a phone with a contract so i will not be activating it. i was wondering if i could officially upgrade the sprint nexus s 4g to ics without connecting to the sprint network or registering the phone. then would i be able to unlock and root? what i am really asking is will phones that are not connected to a cellular network still get the OTA upgrade or not.
thank you
steineronie said:
hi, i am planning on purchasing a sprint nexus s 4g. i already have a phone with a contract so i will not be activating it. i was wondering if i could officially upgrade the sprint nexus s 4g to ics without connecting to the sprint network or registering the phone. then would i be able to unlock and root? what i am really asking is will phones that are not connected to a cellular network still get the OTA upgrade or not.
thank you
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I can't speak for the NS4G, since I don't have one, but I did just load a stock rom on my Evo Shift 4G that I am selling. The phone is not activated right now, and was only connected to wifi. I went to check for updates, and I was able to update to the latest version available on the Shift. YMMV. I've also done the same thing on an old Evo 4G. Only connected to wifi, and was able to apply updates.
Also, has the ICS update for the Sprint version been released yet?
steineronie said:
hi, i am planning on purchasing a sprint nexus s 4g. i already have a phone with a contract so i will not be activating it. i was wondering if i could officially upgrade the sprint nexus s 4g to ics without connecting to the sprint network or registering the phone. then would i be able to unlock and root? what i am really asking is will phones that are not connected to a cellular network still get the OTA upgrade or not.
thank you
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There is no ICS OTA for the NS4G yet. When there is you should be able to update over wifi. Or you'll be able to just grab the OTA as a flashable zip from here once its released.
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There is no ICS OTA for the NS4G yet. When there is you should be able to update over wifi. Or you'll be able to just grab the OTA as a flashable zip from here once its released.
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can you get ota with the bootloader unlocked? or do you have to relock it before you can get it.
steineronie said:
can you get ota with the bootloader unlocked? or do you have to relock it before you can get it.
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I'm fairly certain you need to relock the phone, and then apply the update. The update won't process if the hboot is unlocked. From there, you will be able to unlock the phone again, to gain root access.
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I'm fairly certain you need to relock the phone, and then apply the update. The update won't process if the hboot is unlocked. From there, you will be able to unlock the phone again, to gain root access.
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I'm new to the NS4G myself so I may be wrong but I've read many people post that you can still get OTAs with an unlocked bootloader and rooted. Supposedly you just have to be on a stock ROM already and can't have made any changes to any system files.
Hi XDA-Devvers,
In a topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510719) I read about the following:
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Root won't stop an ota but an unlocked bootloader will. You can check in your boot screen if its still unlocked or if its relocked.
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Doesn't that mean that we can root our tablet, lock the bootloader again (fastboot oem lock), install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper and once there's an OTA available, just backup the root with the Voodoo app and install it?
How awesome would that be :laugh:
Since I am not a pro in that kind of stuff: Can anyone confirm this theory might actually work for real?
fastboot oem lock is unavailable once you unlocked the bootloader.
Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
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Ah bummer. Can we relock the bootloader yet? IF we were able to relock the bootloader, it would work, wouldn't it?
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No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
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No, as many informations -including bootloader version- are sent to check if a new OTA is available
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Okay, thank you for replying. This makes the decision to root a little harder since I want to keep getting updates and for that you'll need ClockWork (and the people who are pushing the update to XDA)(Clockwork does have the nandroid backup though, which I want to have when rooting), which doesn't run very stable last time I read (I rooted before, but then I sent my tab back (heat problems) and got a new one. I flashed a beta ROM xd).
I thanked your post
Isn't it enough to have the original Kernel and ROM? Do you really need a locked bootloader to get OTA updates?
Has anyone tested the universal root method? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
As this doesn't effect the Kernel, OTA updates might work if rooting works with this method.
I've not tried it. I've read some people are bricking their tablets with the universal, and since the A700 is basically a brick waiting to happen, I think I'll pass on it for a while.
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
xubeiga said:
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
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Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
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I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
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I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
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i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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I don't think so...
xubeiga said:
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
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Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
I don't think so...
Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
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so, basically, it isnt necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the phone?
i really dont want to flash custom roms. not right now. i just want to root the phone so i can use Titanium Backup to uninstall some apps that i don't use, which will just waste my memory and battery!
edit: i just read that there are 2 programs. this motochopper and one called motopocalypse.
the motochopper is to root the phone and the other one is to unlock bootloader. and you can't unlock bootloader if your device isnt rooted.
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
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Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
xubeiga said:
well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
pbosio said:
Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
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yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
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no problems mate!!
even you understanding it wrong, i still learned a few with your answer :good:
thanks!
xubeiga said:
yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
iBolski said:
This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
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Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately "Reasearching" this is not possible when Tapatalk has a "Noted & Known issue" with its search function. Their support team is working diligently for a resolution. Maybe you didn't see my sig line indicating I was utilizing Tapatalk.
LOL. "Research does go along way if properly utilized".
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iBolski said:
They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
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wow, that's unfortunate
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wow, that's unfortunate
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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I've heard about it on some Samsung phones, and they go even farther and track how many times someone has flashed roms and such...Chainfire has some tools just for them. Look up Triangle Away.
yep, i had a Galaxy S2(which i dont have anymore cause i've been stolen), and in my first day with it, i rooted, flashed a custom rom, and then some months after, the usb connector stopped working properly. and the phone still had smth like 4 months of warranty...
i had to do a lot of things to reset it.
flash stock firmware with odin, then use this triangle away, then unroot, etc etc etc...well at least i could reset it and send to warranty without they knowing it
This morning i finally relented and installed the 4.4 update (kitkat?) on my droid razr maxx hd. now im stuck at the red M motorola splash screen thing. is there any way i can fix this? I went to verizon and they wouldent do anything for me. I need my phone for work every day so help is greatly appreciated. i also tried the power volume down to restore factory settings or whatever but it just goes to the M screen forever. the only thing that DOES come up from those menus is ap fast boot. not sure if thats helpful or not. PS im new to this stuff so noob friendly responses please!
Were you rooted at all? Did you modify your system in any way (froze or uninstalled stock apps)? If so, that's why.
Go here to get yourself back in shape:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else.
i will try this link and post back in a couple hours i have to go take care of a few things. thank you for the quick response.
KiraTheSavior said:
i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else
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That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.
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That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.
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attempting it now. will post results.
it worked!
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attempting it now. will post results.
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it worked im on kitkat and everythings great! thank you so much for the help! it was really easy with the step by step you linked. now i think ill try rooting and unlocking, if i mess it up i can always flash it like i just did and fix it right?
could you link me to the root/unlock tutorial for my phone? sorry im noob XD
Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.
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Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.
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no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?
KiraTheSavior said:
no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?
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You should have just ignored the update until after you unlocked the phone. The link I sent you to was meant to get you updated to KK before the 183.46.10 update. The previous KK update allowed you to unlock your bootloader. Now, that is no longer possible. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
You can still root the phone, though. Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
One thing you could try is once you've rooted, try running Motopocalypse to see if it will unlock your bootloader. Either it will or it won't. It won't hurt your phone in any way or brick it.
lame...
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It's rootable but it's not unlockable anymore. You have lost the ability to unlock the bootloader. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
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figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
KiraTheSavior said:
figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! My bad. You should be okay to unlock!
Please go here and attempt it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Get Towelroot and run it. This should root your phone -> http://www.towelroot.com/
Next, get the motopocalypse apk from here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53428225&postcount=22
Install and run that on your phone. That should then unlock your bootloader.
So, you are fine. I completely brain farted that the soak test hasn't been sent to everyone. It is available to download and install, but don't do it yet.
PLEASE go and unlock your phone. I'm so sorry for the confusion.
Let me know how it goes!
hotspot
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figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way
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KiraTheSavior said:
is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way
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my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?
KiraTheSavior said:
my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?
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No, that is the version you CAN unlock. At first, it was believed it couldn't happen, but someone discovered that Moto had accidentally added the bootloader unlock exploit back in with the KK release. It's the version after that, which hasn't been released yet but will be soon, that patches the exploit back up to no allow it. The zip file for it is available outside of the soak test so it hasn't been sent to you. What you took was the OTA you do want which does allow unlocking.
Please, go unlock your phone now before the OTA is released and then you'll be forever locked.
Go here to unlock it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Do it now before you do anything else. Do NOT apply the soak test OTA (which is available via a media fire link from SamuriHL) until you've unlocked your phone.
done
Rooted and unlocked. Very happy about it. But now what? What can I get with bootloader unlocked besides revert to jb?
I still need to get my WiFi tether app to work. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data so my phone is basically my internet. Are there any cool ROMs where the WiFi just works with no tricks or work a rounds?
Ok i recieved my galaxy s3 in the mail today and look up how to root it.I found a very easy way by using towel root with supper something to do some binary configuring so it would be a good root.Any way after my device was rooted i decided to get CWM so i could install a custom rom.I tried odin but when i tried it it failed to flash.So then i went on the play store and got rom manager and installed it through there.I then tried to get into CWM and saw this message "Verizion has detected 3rd party software bring it to a verizion shop" something like that.Anyway idk what to do now.Do i unlock the bootloader now? is the bootloader even the problem? if i unlock the bootloader will my device be okay and will i be able to get into CWM? i really need help its been a while since i rooted the last time i rooted it was a samsung galaxy player 5.0 and i was able to get CWM and root i digress.Thanks in advance.
im running 4.2.2
Nitrosolid said:
Ok i recieved my galaxy s3 in the mail today and look up how to root it.I found a very easy way by using towel root with supper something to do some binary configuring so it would be a good root.Any way after my device was rooted i decided to get CWM so i could install a custom rom.I tried odin but when i tried it it failed to flash.So then i went on the play store and got rom manager and installed it through there.I then tried to get into CWM and saw this message "Verizion has detected 3rd party software bring it to a verizion shop" something like that.Anyway idk what to do now.Do i unlock the bootloader now? is the bootloader even the problem? if i unlock the bootloader will my device be okay and will i be able to get into CWM? i really need help its been a while since i rooted the last time i rooted it was a samsung galaxy player 5.0 and i was able to get CWM and root i digress.Thanks in advance.
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Your going to be upset but you have a locked bootloader. You cannot have custom recovery or most custom roms. I suggest you return it if these things are important to you and get an at&t or t mobile s3 because neither of them have locked bootloaders
Datboi459 said:
Your going to be upset but you have a locked bootloader. You cannot have custom recovery or most custom roms. I suggest you return it if these things are important to you and get an at&t or t mobile s3 because neither of them have locked bootloaders
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I'm almost sure the att version has a locked bootloader also. Att phones for the most part are similar to VZW ones
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ShapesBlue said:
I'm almost sure the att version has a locked bootloader also. Att phones for the most part are similar to VZW ones
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What S3 device doesnt have a locked boot loader?
Datboi459 said:
Your going to be upset but you have a locked bootloader. You cannot have custom recovery or most custom roms. I suggest you return it if these things are important to you and get an at&t or t mobile s3 because neither of them have locked bootloaders
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Yeah your right.I really wanted to get a custom rom and over clock do all this nice stuff and make my device as awesome as i can make it.i hate verizion and any carrier who locks bootloaders :/.i guess im just gonna un-root it and try to get it back the way it was.Do you know how i can get that verizion message to go away and unroot?
Nitrosolid said:
What S3 device doesnt have a locked boot loader?
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The t-mobile and sprint version for sure have unlocked bootloaders
Datboi459 said:
The t-mobile and sprint version for sure have unlocked bootloaders
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That's true but I'm not sure about the att one
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ShapesBlue said:
That's true but I'm not sure about the att one
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The at&t galaxy s3 bootloader is unlocked. They started locking the bootloader when the s4 came out: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/08/att-stops-unlocked-bootloader-support/
Datboi459 said:
The at&t galaxy s3 bootloader is unlocked. They started locking the bootloader when the s4 came out: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/08/att-stops-unlocked-bootloader-support/
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Right its an older baseband/update that's unlocked just like the VZW S3 running 4.1.2 was unlock able but newer versions are not unlockable
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ShapesBlue said:
Right its an older baseband/update that's unlocked just like the VZW S3 running 4.1.2 was unlock able but newer versions are not unlockable
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On the AT&T S3 (i747) once you take the 4.3 update (MJB) the bootloader is restricted in that you can not down grade it, or any subsequent updates. (It is my daily driver phone)
It is not locked in the sense that you are prohibited from rooting, flashing custom recoveries, custom ROMs, etc. Once you upgrade to the NE4 bootloader and modem you must keep the version numbers for the bootloader and modem matched. It is possible to run custom JB roms on the KK bootloader and modem, although you may need to edit the updater script to get the custom recovery to flash the rom. People are running JB, KK, and LP ROMs on firmware from 4.3 upwards. These ROM are TW mods, AOSP, CM, and CM derivatives.
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On the AT&T S3 (i747) once you take the 4.3 update (MJB) the bootloader is restricted in that you can not down grade it, or any subsequent updates. (It is my daily driver phone)
It is not locked in the sense that you are prohibited from rooting, flashing custom recoveries, custom ROMs, etc. Once you upgrade to the NE4 bootloader and modem you must keep the version numbers for the bootloader and modem matched. It is possible to run custom JB roms on the KK bootloader and modem, although you may need to edit the updater script to get the custom recovery to flash the rom. People are running JB, KK, and LP ROMs on firmware from 4.3 upwards. These ROM are TW mods, AOSP, CM, and CM derivatives.
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That's pretty much how it was on the VZW S3, after the 4.1.2 update there was no going back
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ShapesBlue said:
That's pretty much how it was on the VZW S3, after the 4.1.2 update there was no going back
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I agree with you about the no going back.
The big difference is that the AT&T S3 can install the custom recovery or ROM of your choice even if you have taken all of the OTA updates. It is not limited to two or three "safe" ROMs.
Anyhow, all of this is off topic of the thread.
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I agree with you about the no going back.
The big difference is that the AT&T S3 can install the custom recovery or ROM of your choice even if you have taken all of the OTA updates. It is not limited to two or three "safe" ROMs.
Anyhow, all of this is off topic of the thread.
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Ah no worries there. It is what it is. I'd rather just have an unlocked bootloader and not have to fiddle with specific things. I'm loving my Nexus and wouldn't go back to a Samsung right now if I was paid to do it
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ShapesBlue said:
Ah no worries there. It is what it is. I'd rather just have an unlocked bootloader and not have to fiddle with specific things. I'm loving my Nexus and wouldn't go back to a Samsung right now if I was paid to do it
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My wish is that a Nexus had a removable battery and an external sdcard >> the perfect device. ;-D
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My wish is that a Nexus had a removable battery and an external sdcard >> the perfect device. ;-D
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Its not as bad as it sounds. I've gotten use to it not having either. Solid device overall
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