i know nothing about porting windows or whether or not it can even be used on this tablet...
do any of you know if we could dual boot windows rt on this?
Maybe
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I am also interested in this question. If someone finds the time reply please.
It seems to be a possibility bc Asus is releasing a windows 8 tablet with the same specs as our tf700 except more ram.
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Not possible and illegal if it would somehow happen. That's like porting iOS to an android smartphone or tablet.
hajalie24 said:
Not possible and illegal if it would somehow happen. That's like porting iOS to an android smartphone or tablet.
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Not quite. iOS is meant to run only on Apple hardware. Android and Windows on the other hand are meant to be run on as many pieces of hardware as possible.
Lol secureboot do not want
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Not quite. iOS is meant to run only on Apple hardware. Android and Windows on the other hand are meant to be run on as many pieces of hardware as possible.
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Not to mention, you would need the source code for iOS. Android is open source thus allowing developers to port it onto any capable device.
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Did anyone check Windows 8 RT's architecture? If it's x86 it's not going to work with ARM.
Edit: Boink! It's ARM, we should see it on here in the future. Maybe Windows 8 RT will avoid the ridiculous I/O problems we currently have.
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Keion said:
Lol secureboot do not want
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lol totally.
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lol totally.
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>le meme arrows xD
just take my money
I don't think it's possible because Windows RT won't be released for consumers. It comes preinstalled.
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Just saw this on engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/17/asus-windows-8-tablets-599-799/
It shows a TF600T, seems to be about the same specs(with the little they show) as our tf700t. Maybe that will mean that we might be able to dual boot win 8!?
I sure hope so!
While theoretically it is possible to dual boot both Android and Windows RT if you can hack the UEFI firmware, I don't bet my money on the tf700 being able to boot Windows RT. Microsoft has made it very clear for all OEMs that there must be no mechanism to disable secure boot on Windows RT. So, as far as I can understand, there are 2 problems:
1. Windows RT is only available to OEMs to preinstall on their devices and it won't be available to the public.
2. Windows RT requires UEFI secure boot, which won't allow anything else to run, including Linux.
Business as usual, I don't expect Microsoft to play nice with Android.
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Did anyone check Windows 8 RT's architecture? If it's x86 it's not going to work with ARM.
Edit: Boink! It's ARM, we should see it on here in the future. Maybe Windows 8 RT will avoid the ridiculous I/O problems we currently have.
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Yeah, because Windows is just so well known for making the most out of available hardware...
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Cheapxj said:
Yeah, because Windows is just so well known for making the most out of available hardware...
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Have you ever used Windows 8 RT?
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Can anyone clarify would it be even possible to get Android and Windows 8 running on the Asus Infinity?
Technically? Yes, I think so. The WinRT version of the surface uses Tegra 3, so it'd be like doing an Android SDK port.
Legally? Absolutely not. Asus didnt pay for the Infinity to be licensed for winRT. If it does get done, you certainly wont be hearing about it here.
Then again, that hasnt stopped the HD2 people from freely discussing and using WP7 here, so maybe I"m missing something.
Thanks thats good to know. Someone mentioned it that it is possible to have Android and Windows 8 on the Asus Infinity but I thought I would ask on here for clarification. Sounds like its the Tab to get with this possibility instead of a Win 8 Tab which everyone knows won't be long until there here also.
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I'm not so sure about that. WinRT is closed source, so any attempts to get it working will be kludgy if the HD2's WP7 port (and Android SDK ports in general) is any indication. You'll probably have much better luck getting a native WinRT/Win8 tablet and hacking Android onto it.
Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
KilerG said:
I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
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If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
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If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
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Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
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How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
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Depends entirely on how you have things set up, but in general Ubuntu isnt that great as a tablet OS unless your using Untiy which isnt exactly light on ram use. The appeal here is more for dock owners seeking a desktop like experience.
I guess it would be similar to Win7, since both would make use of on-screen keyboards but otherwise show a mouse oriented desktop.
Compared to Win8, its a bit kludgy since a native install of Ubuntu would have to reboot into Android for a tablet UI whereas Win8 has metro. A chroot install would be able to easily drop in and out of the desktop, but then you'd have to use VNC which means the desktop UI would be kinda slow. Good enough for, say, office or photo editing but not for viewing videos or playing games.
What about Gentoo?
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KilerG said:
Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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Didn't think of that...I don't have one on hand though. It'd be nice on something more portable though.
ubuntu live cd mate
The window is getting smaller.... Windows 8 RT devices will be coming out soon and we still don't have any Android + Ubuntu devices.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
When they announced that I was thrilled but it wasn't released for people to install or incorporate into their ROMs.
I don't know what they're waiting for... possibly for a device manufacturer to pre-load it?
In any case, they're missing their window of opportunity.
I have a HTC One S and a Nexus 7 which I'd love to run Ubuntu on alongside Android.
Try my project we are working towards the same kind of set up but far more universal
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we still don't have any Android + Ubuntu devices.
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What are you talking about? If you want to run Ubuntu on your Android, just do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780378
Hi,
do you think it will be possible to install windows 8 RT (windows 8 arm processors version) like new Samsung Ativ?
Is there some dev interested to do this?
No... You're asking to install ios on android or vice versa... No drivers and different file structures, not to mention hardware difference, don't allow us to run win8 on an android device. This question has been asked since the galaxy tab7" gen 1 (and win 7) came out. I haven't seen it on that yet and that device is quite a few years old now...
Why would you want to? I see no true advantage by doing this.
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No... You're asking to install ios on android or vice versa... No drivers and different file structures, not to mention hardware difference, don't allow us to run win8 on an android device. This question has been asked since the galaxy tab7" gen 1 (and win 7) came out. I haven't seen it on that yet and that device is quite a few years old now...
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Do you know windows 8 RT version is for arm processors?
ios? I don't want it.
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Why would you want to? I see no true advantage by doing this.
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If Samsung makes Ativ tablet with arm processor and windows 8 RT somebody can prefer it to android!
I love Android but i'd like to try Windows 8 RT, i repeat RT, on my GNote 10.1.
I don't think to be the only one
Me, I would also like to test it.
And to be honest: things like this is why we are here,or am I wrong?
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lukjohnny said:
Me, I would also like to test it.
And to be honest: things like this is why we are here,or am I wrong?
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Me too
I'm on xda for mods and tests
Will never be possible.
RT needs a min resolution of 1366×768
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Will never be possible.
RT needs a min resolution of 1366×768
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Damn, i didn't know it. We've got a problem.
Can this thread open new ways? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960034
Any discussion on this is futile. Microsoft has already made it clear that it will only make Win 8 RT available to OEM's.
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Any discussion on this is futile. Microsoft has already made it clear that it will only make Win 8 RT available to OEM's.
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I'm not asking to Microsoft an official release, i'm asking an hack to install Windows RT on Galaxy Note 10.1 here in xda developers forum.
Watch this:
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd2-wp8-port-leads-to-windows-rt-on-the-htc-hd2/
Would be the hd2!!! That phone has got to be the greatest phone ever hands down.
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Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-20130211/
Thanks, but no, I will keep Windows 8.
Talderon said:
Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-20130211/
Thanks, but no, I will keep Windows 8.
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Will it work on the RT?
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Will it work on the RT?
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No, Pro Only.
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No, Pro Only.
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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!:crying:
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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!:crying:
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The only reason No on the RT is that you can't disable Secure Boot and you would have to find an ARM compiled version of Ubuntu.
The first reason more than anything else will keep you from doing much of anything.
Well... to give you SOME hope: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
Looks like it may actually come to fruition at some point in the (near?) future.
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Well... to give you SOME hope: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
Looks like it may actually come to fruition at some point in the (near?) future.
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This is great news considering Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
Once it drops, it should only be a matter of time before someone cooks it up for the RT... :fingers-crossed:
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This is great news considering Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
Once it drops, it should only be a matter of time before someone cooks it up for the RT... :fingers-crossed:
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Well, at least there is SOME light at the end of the tunnel.
Just because a secure boot-compatible segnature is present doesn't mean it will work; there's no way to add your own signing keys to the Surface RT's SB certificate store, so unless your Linux installer is either signed by MS or by another authority that is trusted out of the box, it still won't work.
Also, there's a big difference between recompiling a user-mode application for ARM and recompiling an entire OS. You need a compatible board support package for your processor and hardware. It's possible (and there are already Linux images that run on the Tegra3) but it's not trivial.
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Just because a secure boot-compatible segnature is present doesn't mean it will work; there's no way to add your own signing keys to the Surface RT's SB certificate store, so unless your Linux installer is either signed by MS or by another authority that is trusted out of the box, it still won't work.
Also, there's a big difference between recompiling a user-mode application for ARM and recompiling an entire OS. You need a compatible board support package for your processor and hardware. It's possible (and there are already Linux images that run on the Tegra3) but it's not trivial.
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Way to ruin my dream :/
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Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
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Full ubuntu is already available on ARM. Not just their new mobile OS.
Ubuntu on Surface :crying:
Buy a TF300
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Ubuntu on Surface :crying:
Buy a TF300
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I dont see the problem with it tbh. The surface is a genuinely nice piece of hardware, its just some people dont like windows 8.
Now a hackintosh on the surface would be very interesting albeit incredibly unlikely.
I wonder if one of the various android x86 projects would consider a surface pro version.
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I dont see the problem with it tbh. The surface is a genuinely nice piece of hardware, its just some people dont like windows 8.
Now a hackintosh on the surface would be very interesting albeit incredibly unlikely.
I wonder if one of the various android x86 projects would consider a surface pro version.
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I rather wait for windows android to release stable versions. I don't want to reboot and lost true multitasking just to play a mobile game.
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Surface pro with Mountain lion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPMg_qkSRs
looks like a fair bit of input latency there, very similar to what I see with remote desktop as opposed to running on the machine. Either that or poor drivers. Either one is possible
or the fact ml isn't supposed to run touchscreen so its not optimised....?
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or the fact ml isn't supposed to run touchscreen so its not optimised....?
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I would class that under poor driver support which I already said....
OSX does support touchscreen anyway.
my surface pro cannot boot from Windows 7 and Linux USBs, it still proceeds to windows 8. (im trying to put windows 7 on it or Linux)
but I can on my Recovery USB. i'm using the down volume method, and tried the advance boot thingy and chose USB method.
So i doubted if my win7 and linux usbs are not bootable, but they both boot well on my other pc.
I also have that EFI boot disabled. im not exactly a noob with tweaks and software installation, i just dont know why my surface pro wont accept those bootable usbs so i can start installing them.
please help.
That's great and all, but I can't find the Marvell drivers for ubuntu at all..
Is rhere any way you can put windows 8 rt on yiur asus, im still using the stock rom
Thanks
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Is rhere any way you can put windows 8 rt on yiur asus, im still using the stock rom
Thanks
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No
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Is rhere any way you can put windows 8 rt on yiur asus, im still using the stock rom
Thanks
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It looks like at least the basic hardware on the tablet is supported by Windows 8 RT, but Microsoft doesn't sell it directly. Your best bet is to get in touch with someone who has a Microsoft developer account, and see if they can get an image for you. That said, Windows 8 is pretty awful. If you want to turn your tablet into a more full computer, I recommend looking at the Ubuntu Touch, Arch, or XUbuntu threads in the development section.
This tablet will never run windows rt (not absolutly true if you enjoy windows rt in qemu enviroment:silly hint the tf600 is basically this tablet with windows rt.
But even then our linux ports created by only a few people run better then 90% of windows rt tablets lol, youd be jelious of our linux if you had a windows rt tablet