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Is there any possibility to load Windows 7 standalone on Asus Transformer or better still have the option for Dual boot Windows 7 along with Honeycomb?
From what I've read windows 7 currently is impossible but may be possible on future windows iterations. Ubuntu is a possibility tho ..... see separate threads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Windows#Windows_8
I don't know about Windows 7, however Windows 8 has already been demonstrated running on a Tegra 2 processor. So it may be a possibility for the Transformer. A beta is rumored to be available in September 2011.
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From what I've read windows 7 currently is impossible but may be possible on future windows iterations. Ubuntu is a possibility tho ..... see separate threads.
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^This You can't run Win7 on arm
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smartbuddy said:
Is there any possibility to load Windows 7 standalone on Asus Transformer or better still have the option for Dual boot Windows 7 along with Honeycomb?
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Search? This question has been answered at least 20 times.
lost101 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Windows#Windows_8
I don't know about Windows 7, however Windows 8 has already been demonstrated running on a Tegra 2 processor. So it may be a possibility for the Transformer. A beta is rumored to be available in September 2011.
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And when it does become available, it will be largely useless. Do you think that the wealth of Windows apps are suddenly going to work in an ARM version of Windows 8? Think again. Every single app on Windows is compiled for the x86/x64 bytecode and will have to be recompiled for the ARM instruction set.
MS would be better off developing a tablet version of Windows Phone 7 and forget about squishing a desktop OS onto a tablet.
Trouble is, WinPhone requires a total rewrite of your apps. In theory, WinARM would at least be compatible at the source level. The idea isn't to run existing apps but to make porting them as painless as possible. Assuming WinARM is targeted at tablets (and not, for example, desktops/laptops with nVidia's Denver chip), developers would have to do nothing more than write a new UI and recompile (and as .NET already runs on a VM, x86-ARM differences shouldn't be much of an issue).
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Can you provide me atleast 10 links out of 20, Mr. Search Master? As i could not find it ...
Thanks guys for clearing the doubt, i hope windows 8, comes out soon for Tegra 2 devices.
Unlike Linux, recompiling Win apps for the ARM is not easy do to x86 hooks that are incorporated. Think directx, activex, etc.
True but if you are using .Net Framework it should not be that painful. I had some of my WinForms apps working in mono in no time. I have not tried with WPF yet but it is on my list.
So as long as the Framework supports it, open the solution, rebuild it and run.
hey guys, I want to try something new. I'm looking for an alternative to my windows 7. so this will either be windows 8, OS X (can I install that on a real laptop?) or Ubuntu 12.4.
Ubuntu and OS X seem really similar to me. they're both Unix based, so why not. OS X seems to be better polished and more user friendly, no manual command lines or scripts to run to do simple things, yet its apple so I'm hesitant to try it, because of how they treat their phones.. I've tried Ubuntu in the past and it was a pain to fix issues, and lots of Googling what command lines to enter to install programs..
I know nothing of windows 8, but doubt its improved from windows 7 much.. looking for a comp I don't have to worry about drivers on
thoughts guys?
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I believe there is a way to install osx on a regular PC, but the hardware has to comply to osx standards. Dual boot Ubuntu, its great!
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Are you looking to change the software on your computer, or get a new one altogether?
Linux+++++
Ubuntu for the nubs, +9000 internets for Gentoo install. I'm still stuck on my customized slax build, but I love the speed of gentoo
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You get live CDs for everything these days.. if you dont want to experiment at the expense of your current OS, i suggest installing virtual machine.. n installing OS on dat.. Linux is the past,present n future if you ask me..
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Ubuntu 12.04 so much better than windows
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Ive Used OXS, Windows and Linux (Ubuntu / Mint / Fedora)
I would say Windows is best for gaming and flashing ROM,
OSX is good for Graphics and Music Making
and Linux is good for Open Sourse, but not for Gaming !
n to get OSX to work on a PC its hell, id say buy a mac instead its a lot quicker !!
arch linux is the way, gentoo is deprecated and not sense, windows is like a trash, and unix and bsd is too hard for news
Windows s game is stupid and not logic, if you want play buy a console
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I would say to go with Linux
I am currently running Ubuntu 10.04 but I see the new one
has just come out, though I'm not sure I like the new interface.
I am a network Admin by trade but I switch to Linux when I go home at
night, for me Linux is much more flexible and does what I need it to do.
For those times I really need Windows at home I run it under Linux via VirtualBox.
There are many flavors out there Try a few and see what one fits you.
For a great linux alternative that can give a windows "feel" try out Mint 12. It is also fully customizeable so you can remove any features you dislike. It is based on Ubuntu so most things that are designed for Ubuntu function in Mint also.
cepsbow said:
Linux+++++
Ubuntu for the nubs, +9000 internets for Gentoo install. I'm still stuck on my customized slax build, but I love the speed of gentoo
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Don't be a Gentoo ricer.
Use Linux Mint over Ubuntu. Each new version, Ubuntu drops a few hardware drivers. by version 10, my wifi card (RAlink RT3090) wasn't supported anymore.
cepsbow said:
Linux+++++
Ubuntu for the nubs, +9000 internets for Gentoo install. I'm still stuck on my customized slax build, but I love the speed of gentoo
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are you nuts
can you please tell me why is Ubuntu for noobs????
suky08 said:
are you nuts
can you please tell me why is Ubuntu for noobs????
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I always laugh what I hear that, I'm an IT guy (have been for over 20 years).
I run Ubuntu. Just because I can compile from source does not mean I want to.
My time is worth something.
soraxd said:
hey guys, I want to try something new. I'm looking for an alternative to my windows 7. so this will either be windows 8, OS X (can I install that on a real laptop?) or Ubuntu 12.4.
Ubuntu and OS X seem really similar to me. they're both Unix based, so why not. OS X seems to be better polished and more user friendly, no manual command lines or scripts to run to do simple things, yet its apple so I'm hesitant to try it, because of how they treat their phones.. I've tried Ubuntu in the past and it was a pain to fix issues, and lots of Googling what command lines to enter to install programs..
I know nothing of windows 8, but doubt its improved from windows 7 much.. looking for a comp I don't have to worry about drivers on
thoughts guys?
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Dont agree whit you that OS X is more frendly. Because you can customize it however you want. and about comands they are difficult first days but later... all comands are similar. Im using Ubuntu and it is excellent.
btw: apple is 10 years behind Microsoft and Microsoft ist 10 years behint Ubuntu as far as the security and viruses.
I prefer Kubuntu (with KDE). Gnome or KDE, it is more or less a matter of taste.
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Dont agree whit you that OS X is more frendly. Because you can customize it however you want. and about comands they are difficult first days but later... all comands are similar. Im using Ubuntu and it is excellent.
btw: apple is 10 years behind Microsoft and Microsoft ist 10 years behint Ubuntu as far as the security and viruses.
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How do you justify that claim?
Most variants of Linux have their specific purposes. Gentoo as a development environment is not only practically sound, it is purposefully built for that.
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Most variants of Linux have their specific purposes. Gentoo as a development environment is not only practically sound, it is purposefully built for that.
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^^^ very true from my experience, if you go with a linux build there are specifics where each alternative shines. So choose yours that suits your needs.
PC died with XP........
OSX runs nicely because of ease of use, however its more "out there" with cloud computing and everything being connected one way or another, I personally don't like that.
Overall, linux is where it's at! Comes down to personal preference though
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OS X seems to be better polished and more user friendly, no manual command lines or scripts to run to do simple things, yet its apple so I'm hesitant to try it, because of how they treat their phones.
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The first computer(s) I bought/built myself (starting around age 18) were "white box" PCs running whatever the current version of Windows was, and, invariably, dual-booting into Linux. I still have my super-sexy-for-the-time Sony VAIO PCG-Z505R (Win 98SE / Mandrake 6.1), a PIII-450 stuffed with MJPEG and UltraSCSI hardware (Windows 2000 / RedHat 7.2), etc. My personal / professional mail/web/file servers are all CentOS boxes (VPS instances). I just picked up a PogoPlug to run a small low-power ARM Linux server on, and my NAS units are Linux-based ReadyNAS devices. I've been a technical reviewer for, and/or authored chapters in, a dozen books on Linux deployment and/or programming. If I were to ever get inked, it would probably be with an image of Tux.
That said...
When the release of Jaguar made OS X a viable platform, I leapt (iBook G3/600), and have never looked back. Best of all worlds -- I get must-have apps like Office (no, Open/Libre/etc.Office is not a viable replacement, not for the complicated formatting-heavy documents I routinely have to exchange with other parties and institutions -- and yes, I have tried), Photoshop (GIMP is great, but it's not a substitute), StarCraft and I also get a full POSIX UNIX environment. (Open Group UNIX 03 certified, at least as of OS X Leopard.)
I even hackintoshed the HP mini 1116nr netbook I picked up cheap (refurbished) to play around with. Neither of the two main 'consumer' distributions, Ubuntu or Fedora, were "quite there." There were, not constantly but consistently, weird issues with WiFi, or closing the lid to put the machine to sleep, or, well, something. Even on machines that shipped with Linux from the factory (I had a Dell mini 9 for a while.) So-called "compatible" software, like OpenOffice.org, was ~90%, but the devil was in the details found in that last 10%.
I'm a little unnerved by Apple's apparent push towards a closed environment (walled garden); it's (marginally) acceptable on an iPhone or even (arguably) an iPad, appliance devices, but a general purpose computer should, IMHO, remain just that.
But if you can get OS X 10.6 running on a Hackintosh (or if you can swing the entry price for actual Apple hardware; the MacBook Air in particular is a sick piece of kit not priced much higher -- often cheaper -- than an equivalent "ultrabook" from any of the Wintel shops), I'd say go OS X.
You'd be far from alone... Google for:
Watching the "Alpha Geeks": OS X and the Next Big Thing
by Tim O'Reilly
Return of the Mac - Paul Graham
Etc.
Just my two cents,
However, i've been using Windows in my job (IT support for a school) for about 6 years, and toyed with the idea of running Linux or something else.
i've tried Linux Mint and a few other variants and even the lightweight one. And tbh while they are all perfectly reasonable OS's for being free, i can only really say it's not something i ever went back to.
I'm currently running Backtrack 5 over Oracle VM.
Linux has a huge user base, however for it to compete with Windows i do believe they need to make it easier for nubs to use. I'd install it all day on peoples computers if i knew they'd be able to use it.
i know nothing about porting windows or whether or not it can even be used on this tablet...
do any of you know if we could dual boot windows rt on this?
Maybe
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I am also interested in this question. If someone finds the time reply please.
It seems to be a possibility bc Asus is releasing a windows 8 tablet with the same specs as our tf700 except more ram.
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Not possible and illegal if it would somehow happen. That's like porting iOS to an android smartphone or tablet.
hajalie24 said:
Not possible and illegal if it would somehow happen. That's like porting iOS to an android smartphone or tablet.
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Not quite. iOS is meant to run only on Apple hardware. Android and Windows on the other hand are meant to be run on as many pieces of hardware as possible.
Lol secureboot do not want
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urrlyx said:
Not quite. iOS is meant to run only on Apple hardware. Android and Windows on the other hand are meant to be run on as many pieces of hardware as possible.
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Not to mention, you would need the source code for iOS. Android is open source thus allowing developers to port it onto any capable device.
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Did anyone check Windows 8 RT's architecture? If it's x86 it's not going to work with ARM.
Edit: Boink! It's ARM, we should see it on here in the future. Maybe Windows 8 RT will avoid the ridiculous I/O problems we currently have.
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Keion said:
Lol secureboot do not want
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lol totally.
urrlyx said:
lol totally.
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>le meme arrows xD
just take my money
I don't think it's possible because Windows RT won't be released for consumers. It comes preinstalled.
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Just saw this on engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/17/asus-windows-8-tablets-599-799/
It shows a TF600T, seems to be about the same specs(with the little they show) as our tf700t. Maybe that will mean that we might be able to dual boot win 8!?
I sure hope so!
While theoretically it is possible to dual boot both Android and Windows RT if you can hack the UEFI firmware, I don't bet my money on the tf700 being able to boot Windows RT. Microsoft has made it very clear for all OEMs that there must be no mechanism to disable secure boot on Windows RT. So, as far as I can understand, there are 2 problems:
1. Windows RT is only available to OEMs to preinstall on their devices and it won't be available to the public.
2. Windows RT requires UEFI secure boot, which won't allow anything else to run, including Linux.
Business as usual, I don't expect Microsoft to play nice with Android.
R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
Did anyone check Windows 8 RT's architecture? If it's x86 it's not going to work with ARM.
Edit: Boink! It's ARM, we should see it on here in the future. Maybe Windows 8 RT will avoid the ridiculous I/O problems we currently have.
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Yeah, because Windows is just so well known for making the most out of available hardware...
(Note blatant sarcasm)
Cheapxj said:
Yeah, because Windows is just so well known for making the most out of available hardware...
(Note blatant sarcasm)
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Have you ever used Windows 8 RT?
Hi,
do you think it will be possible to install windows 8 RT (windows 8 arm processors version) like new Samsung Ativ?
Is there some dev interested to do this?
No... You're asking to install ios on android or vice versa... No drivers and different file structures, not to mention hardware difference, don't allow us to run win8 on an android device. This question has been asked since the galaxy tab7" gen 1 (and win 7) came out. I haven't seen it on that yet and that device is quite a few years old now...
Why would you want to? I see no true advantage by doing this.
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No... You're asking to install ios on android or vice versa... No drivers and different file structures, not to mention hardware difference, don't allow us to run win8 on an android device. This question has been asked since the galaxy tab7" gen 1 (and win 7) came out. I haven't seen it on that yet and that device is quite a few years old now...
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Do you know windows 8 RT version is for arm processors?
ios? I don't want it.
Jonphinguyen7 said:
Why would you want to? I see no true advantage by doing this.
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If Samsung makes Ativ tablet with arm processor and windows 8 RT somebody can prefer it to android!
I love Android but i'd like to try Windows 8 RT, i repeat RT, on my GNote 10.1.
I don't think to be the only one
Me, I would also like to test it.
And to be honest: things like this is why we are here,or am I wrong?
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lukjohnny said:
Me, I would also like to test it.
And to be honest: things like this is why we are here,or am I wrong?
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Me too
I'm on xda for mods and tests
Will never be possible.
RT needs a min resolution of 1366×768
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Will never be possible.
RT needs a min resolution of 1366×768
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Damn, i didn't know it. We've got a problem.
Can this thread open new ways? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960034
Any discussion on this is futile. Microsoft has already made it clear that it will only make Win 8 RT available to OEM's.
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AndroHero said:
Any discussion on this is futile. Microsoft has already made it clear that it will only make Win 8 RT available to OEM's.
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I'm not asking to Microsoft an official release, i'm asking an hack to install Windows RT on Galaxy Note 10.1 here in xda developers forum.
Watch this:
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd2-wp8-port-leads-to-windows-rt-on-the-htc-hd2/
Would be the hd2!!! That phone has got to be the greatest phone ever hands down.
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-possible?
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-possible?
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Ubuntu? Yes. lOS? You'd have better luck getting Windows 2000 to boot on our phones.
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iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
possible
jmxc23 said:
iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
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well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half of the apps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
trook said:
well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half ofapps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
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Ubuntu like Android is based on Linux so that isn't a surprise that it runs on the Nexus. Linux OS have been dual booted on windows computers for a long time so seeing Android dual-booted on Windows phones isn‘t a surprise either. Also those are dual booted not really replacing your android OS. The pic your talking about is a Ubuntu mobile OS so it should actually replace stock android like a custom rom does. I will also add that iOS is closed source software so you risk legal action doing that. The thread you linked to is closed.
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