Yesterday I installed Miui ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778870. And I was suprised how batery temperatura is low ...about 12C - 17C.
Is it actually cooler? Or just reporting as cooler?
Different kernels can often give different temperature reporting.
For example the kernel im using now is telling me the battery temp is 60 degrees Fahrenheit, which was impossible after the phone had been in a 78 degree room for hours.
I had previously been using a different version of that same kernel that told me 60 degrees when the phone felt like it was going to melt in my hand.
Same kernel, different versions, massively different temp reporting.
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I tried play some heavy games and it still cool after 15 mins
Skipjacks said:
Is it actually cooler? Or just reporting as cooler?
Different kernels can often give different temperature reporting.
For example the kernel im using now is telling me the battery temp is 60 degrees Fahrenheit, which was impossible after the phone had been in a 78 degree room for hours.
I had previously been using a different version of that same kernel that told me 60 degrees when the phone felt like it was going to melt in my hand.
Same kernel, different versions, massively different temp reporting.
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This.
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This.
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not sure if troll or just this.
do you have anker or stock battery?
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not sure if troll or just this.
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Not trolling in the slightest mate. It's simple, like has been said already, if a battery is reporting temps lower then the ambient temperature the phone has been exposed to for some time, it's impossible for it to be lower.
This can be a kernel reporting incorrect temps, or also could be caused by an after-market battery (Anker etc).
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do you have anker or stock battery?
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stock battery.
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Not trolling in the slightest mate. It's simple, like has been said already, if a battery is reporting temps lower then the ambient temperature the phone has been exposed to for some time, it's impossible for it to be lower.
This can be a kernel reporting incorrect temps, or also could be caused by an after-market battery (Anker etc).
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it so cool that i dont feel any heat come from it.
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Hey guys...
So I see alot of threads on battery life issues, on multiple forums.
I figured itd be good to have a thread about how you guys are getting the phenomenal battery life.....
What apps and how are you using them to get the crazy hours?
i dont use apps..i use viperboys script floor is set @ 800..max voltage is -75mv underclocked @ 537..with heavy usage get over 16hrs
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yeah...... I dont know how to do any of that :/ ha and mines on ED2 (double fail)
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i dont use apps..i use viperboys script floor is set @ 800..max voltage is -75mv underclocked @ 537..with heavy usage get over 16hrs
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Im using a profile app right now, but would to know exactly how to operate scripts. Can you direct us to a tutorial of some sort?
I assume you mean scripts from this place: http://viperboy.tiamat-aosp.com/downloads.php
thats the one and sbc kernels work the best
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Which app??? is that all you are using? Are you rooted?
On bamf 1.6.3 remix with Imo's special 2.5 kernel and 1700 battery. Set to 1200 max and 24min inactivex. Check it.
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On bamf 1.6.3 remix with Imo's special 2.5 kernel and 1700 battery. Set to 1200 max and 24min inactivex. Check it.
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May want to check what forum you're in, considering that BAMF is meant for the Thunderbolt and this is the Charge forum...
Sorry. My bust.
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ShotgunSam-
Which app??? is that all you are using? Are you rooted?
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its nothing special, just managing whats running
MyProfiles is the name of the app.
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thats the one and sbc kernels work the best
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exactly how would this run on the DC? I didn't know there were other kernels out for it.
send the dev a pm and ask how it works for other devices..hes very helpful.
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16-20 hrs
I'm getting 16-22 hours of moderate usage. Downgraded and rooted. Now using Titanium to freeze all bloat. Always in 4G.
The cheap 1700 batts on Amazon are good. Running bamf ginger and gingeritis. With imo kernels I'm getting 14-18 hrs. Just gotta keep playing with the CPU settings.
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What's the bearable temperature for my Htc desire s ? My phone shows 44 to 47 degree ? I am on miui rom, no overclocking , heap size increases to 32.
Sometimes I fear that much heat might effect my phone. it may be damage my phone.
My friends battery temperature is always in between 32 - 36 degree.
or Is my battery faulty?
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I´m using RC Mix 3D Rom and my temp is between 25 and 35. Maybe you have an background app running?
I an not using any app that uses that much battery, my battery consumption its very good. But temperature is very high.
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I´m using RC Mix 3D Rom and my temp is between 25 and 35. Maybe you have an background app running?
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try running a close to stock rom and then test again
Also what country do you live in, what's the normal room temperature?
You could also then try swapping your battery with your friends and then see what happens to both your and his temperatures to see if it's a battery, device or rom issue
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Dude you are in Delhi isnt hot like hell there right now?
try to switch battery with friend and see whats goin on..
Thanks good suggestions. I am facing same problem in my stock ROM also. my battery voltage its 3987 mV.
Is it possible heap size can increase battery temperature and consumption?
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My friend also from Delhi... But his battery temperature is very low as compared to me.
Today I will swap and will let you know the outcome.
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Should only be 40+ when charging or playing games.
I was pretty pleased with my results here, so I thought I'd share. This is done with both OC and UV and making use of the the 3500mah batt and with moderate/normal use.
I can get that on stock battery, you must play some games and leave your phone on full brightness at all times or something.
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I can get that on stock battery, you must play some games and leave your phone on full brightness at all times or something.
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No, I play one game in particular, and I spend more time on the web on my phone than most people do on their computer. I could get that on a stock battery too, if I never actually used my phone Before the the changes I made, I was getting significantly less life. Especially with OC.
It looks like the moment you turn your screen on your battery life plummets.
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It looks like the moment you turn your screen on your battery life plummets.
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Thats from Oc'ing to 1560 lol
It's more useful to post test results on a standard battery and standard voltages and clock speeds so others can compare. I've gotten 3 days on stock CM7 nightly before, it really depends on how much one uses their phone. The biggest clue to how a ROM or kernel affects battery is to look at the idle drain (maybe with data off too). It should be flat or with < 0.5%/hr drain.
Where'd you get the 3500 Mah battery you are using? I've been trying to find a decent maker for one.
My Sensation is running OrDroid 9.0.0 Sense 4.0 Rom. It gets warm/hot when using simple apps like facebook, messaging, Youtube, etc... I had this problem since last year too. I got my Sensation since August of last year.
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My Sensation is running OrDroid 9.0.0 Sense 4.0 Rom. It gets warm/hot when using simple apps like facebook, messaging, Youtube, etc... I had this problem since last year too. I got my Sensation since August of last year.
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Don't do gpu over clock then.. That will cool down your device a bit.. Also.. Try some under volting the kernel (there is a uv mod.. You can use that) .. It prevents heating a bit too
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I'm not overclocked though. I'm on the standard frequency, 1.2Ghz. I'm also on bricked kernal if that helps. What does decreasing the voltage do, or what voltage should I have?
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I'm not overclocked though. I'm on the standard frequency, 1.2Ghz. I'm also on bricked kernal if that helps. What does decreasing the voltage do, or what voltage should I have?
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You should try that for yourself because not every device can handle every voltage decreasing the voltage makes that there is not so much electricity going trough the CPU you save battery and your battery is not overheating so fast
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Thanks. I installed UV mod, the CPU still gets warm, but not as hot as it used to be. I'm going to try the experimental if it works better.
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Thanks. I installed UV mod, the CPU still gets warm, but not as hot as it used to be. I'm going to try the experimental if it works better.
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Alternativley you could try another launcher
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I'm not overclocked though. I'm on the standard frequency, 1.2Ghz. I'm also on bricked kernal if that helps. What does decreasing the voltage do, or what voltage should I have?
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Mine did too with both stock and ARHD roms. Thought its the battery getting getting warm for the longest time but it turned out to be CPU/GPU. I'm using Viper S now and do not overclock CPU/GPU. Works well and heat is down significantly. Still gets warm occasionally (GPS, Browser, Google Now) but not as much and battery last longer.
I tried Vipers S Rom but everything ran VERY choppy and what govner do you recommend to get that cold GPU/CPu effect?
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I tried Vipers S Rom but everything ran VERY choppy and what govner do you recommend to get that cold GPU/CPu effect?
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When you try different ROMs and have query ask in the right ROM forum. You'll have a better chance for a right answer.
There isn't a tremendous amount of things you can do to bring down the temperature significantly. As everyone said, under volting, and under clocking can do a little bit.
It isn't a big problem, because it shouldn't pass, from what I remember, 43-46 degrees Celsius. Of course it will vary with what your doing, playing games will make it hotter, especially if you are in a hot environment.
Don't worry too much about it.
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There isn't a tremendous amount of things you can do to bring down the temperature significantly. As everyone said, under volting, and under clocking can do a little bit.
It isn't a big problem, because it shouldn't pass, from what I remember, 43-46 degrees Celsius. Of course it will vary with what your doing, playing games will make it hotter, especially if you are in a hot environment.
Don't worry too much about it.
Lucas
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Well, what I'm saying is that when I use facebook, it gets really hot.
Yes Another Battery Thread! I KNOW. SPAM. but well, not 100% Spam, But also reasonable.
I have a brand New Sensation XE, Proper S-OFF with all the Fun and Boogie-Woogies.
But Since going from Vipers ICS Roms, which i tried at first (but which ate too Much Ram, and I'm a AOSP Guy.)
To Cyanogen Mod 10.1, And on 3g my battery goes down in like, yes what, I guess an Hour. then its dead. is that Normal?
It wasn't as Terrible on sense. I just wonder? Any smart Android-Hero's to explain?
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Yes Another Battery Thread! I KNOW. SPAM. but well, not 100% Spam, But also reasonable.
I have a brand New Sensation XE, Proper S-OFF with all the Fun and Boogie-Woogies.
But Since going from Vipers ICS Roms, which i tried at first (but which ate too Much Ram, and I'm a AOSP Guy.)
To Cyanogen Mod 10.1, And on 3g my battery goes down in like, yes what, I guess an Hour. then its dead. is that Normal?
It wasn't as Terrible on sense. I just wonder? Any smart Android-Hero's to explain?
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I think its kernel related, cz on cm 10.1 my phone used to stay at least a day on 3g, so its the kernel or the battery, try flashing stock kernel or another kernel if nothing changes u should get ur battery replaced
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Yes Another Battery Thread! I KNOW. SPAM. but well, not 100% Spam, But also reasonable.
I have a brand New Sensation XE, Proper S-OFF with all the Fun and Boogie-Woogies.
But Since going from Vipers ICS Roms, which i tried at first (but which ate too Much Ram, and I'm a AOSP Guy.)
To Cyanogen Mod 10.1, And on 3g my battery goes down in like, yes what, I guess an Hour. then its dead. is that Normal?
It wasn't as Terrible on sense. I just wonder? Any smart Android-Hero's to explain?
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Btw did u do a full wipe before flashing cm? Did u wipe cache and dalvik cache?
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I think its kernel related, cz on cm 10.1 my phone used to stay at least a day on 3g, so its the kernel or the battery, try flashing stock kernel or another kernel if nothing changes u should get ur battery replaced
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Btw did u do a full wipe before flashing cm? Did u wipe cache and dalvik cache?
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So, I Tried Doing a FULL, Wipe, and flashing cm10.1 (the newest i could get.) and that one aosp kernel everyone loves.
Still nothing, sadly... running on 8xxmhz for both cores, Ondemand, Sio.
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So, I Tried Doing a FULL, Wipe, and flashing cm10.1 (the newest i could get.) and that one aosp kernel everyone loves.
Still nothing, sadly... running on 8xxmhz for both cores, Ondemand, Sio.
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I run mine on badass 1728 mhz and it lasts for at least 8 hours of use on 3g
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I run mine on badass 1728 mhz and it lasts for at least 8 hours of use on 3g
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Rom and Kernel? (Just ordered alot of different batteries from china, all with more than 10x good ratings each. Also a 3800mha one for 80bucks. i got the money for it.. so it doesn't bother me.)
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Rom and Kernel? (Just ordered alot of different batteries from china, all with more than 10x good ratings each. Also a 3800mha one for 80bucks. i got the money for it.. so it doesn't bother me.)
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I used to use albinoman cm10.1 but dont remeber what kernel i flashed, last week i flashed viper s, and seriously this rom is a drainer, it drains the battery in 4 hours
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I used to use albinoman cm10.1 but dont remeber what kernel i flashed, last week i flashed viper s, and seriously this rom is a drainer, it drains the battery in 4 hours
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Damn Boi, I'll look into my 2450mha (said to work perfectly, and fit under original cover.) and Continue using CM.
I get 3 days easily on albino's cm10.1 aosp rom. With an banker battery.
So the ROM isn't the problem. We have hashed battery life questions to death in the ROM's development thread and the answer always comes back to user settings or faulty hardware, usually the battery is just old.
But battery life does NOT suck on all non sense ROMs. That is just bad information.
Give a more specific description of your set up and we can help you improve battery life.
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Download battery calibrate on the play store, it wipes your battery stats and writes new ones. Also, check what kernel governor yours is on. Badass or on demand are the best.
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I get 3 days easily on albino's cm10.1 aosp rom. With an banker battery.
So the ROM isn't the problem. We have hashed battery life questions to death in the ROM's development thread and the answer always comes back to user settings or faulty hardware, usually the battery is just old.
But battery life does NOT suck on all non sense ROMs. That is just bad information.
Give a more specific description of your set up and we can help you improve battery life.
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Good, Lets get You that Information then.
The device is an Fourteen month old Sensation XE, with that 17xx Battery.
I bought it two weeks ago Used but Just as new, Not even Tiny pocket scratches.
It was Pre-rooted and s-off using the Wiretrick by the Preowner.
Its now Running Albino's CM10.1, (03~05).
My CPU is Clocked at 15xxMhz and 398 Min I believe,
GPU's and stuff Aren't Changed. Its on the Ondemand Governor and SIO I/O Thingy.
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I Go from Home Charged Everyday, with an HTC Certified dock,
I get from the countryside into the city and Jump onto 3g, the battery stays for a five minutes on "Charged" and jumps down to 95-80-7x and Finally 65 where it takes a little break, that goes in well, an half hour. Then i mostly get really Upset and angry at HTC and Cry out to my Friends with better phones telling how **** mine is, Now i'll get my replacement Batteries and see, I'll instantly report here how they all each Did.
Wish me Luck Developers!
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Download battery calibrate on the play store, it wipes your battery stats and writes new ones. Also, check what kernel governor yours is on. Badass or on demand are the best.
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Do not waste your time with this. This is snake oil nonsense. Wiping battery stats has a function, but this isn't it. Wiping battery stats will do nothing to help your battery life. Nothing.
The battery stats are wiped every time it charges anyway.
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Good, Lets get You that Information then.
The device is an Fourteen month old Sensation XE, with that 17xx Battery.
I bought it two weeks ago Used but Just as new, Not even Tiny pocket scratches.
It was Pre-rooted and s-off using the Wiretrick by the Preowner.
Its now Running Albino's CM10.1, (03~05).
My CPU is Clocked at 15xxMhz and 398 Min I believe,
GPU's and stuff Aren't Changed. Its on the Ondemand Governor and SIO I/O Thingy.
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I Go from Home Charged Everyday, with an HTC Certified dock,
I get from the countryside into the city and Jump onto 3g, the battery stays for a five minutes on "Charged" and jumps down to 95-80-7x and Finally 65 where it takes a little break, that goes in well, an half hour. Then i mostly get really Upset and angry at HTC and Cry out to my Friends with better phones telling how **** mine is, Now i'll get my replacement Batteries and see, I'll instantly report here how they all each Did.
Wish me Luck Developers!
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Your battery is old. That's probably the problem. Use the Banker battery when you get it. That's the sollution. Also you are clocking the CPU pretty high. If you dont have a specific reason to run it at 1.5ghz as the max like gaming or something, back it off to like 1.2.
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Do not waste your time with this. This is snake oil nonsense. Wiping battery stats has a function, but this isn't it. Wiping battery stats will do nothing to help your battery life. Nothing.
The battery stats are wiped every time it charges anyway.
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Your battery is old. That's probably the problem. Use the Banker battery when you get it. That's the sollution. Also you are clocking the CPU pretty high. If you dont have a specific reason to run it at 1.5ghz as the max like gaming or something, back it off to like 1.2.
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1.5 ghz is high? I oc it to 1728 MHz
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1.5 ghz is high? I oc it to 1728 MHz
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Yes. Its high.
If you have a specific need for it to be that high, go ahead. That's 1.5 is what the chip is designed for. It can handle it. At 1.7 you are pushing it pretty hard.
But those speeds won't do anything to improve the performance of everyday use like sending texts, making calls, or even in games like angry birds. Ifnyounplay more graphically intensive games, those speeds will be helpful. If you don't they are a waste of battery. Either way though they are using more battery at those speeds, whether you needs those speeds or not.
Backing it off to 1.2 will prevent the device from 'kicking on the afterburners' and dumping battery fast when its at max CPU. Again, if your performance suffers then this isn't the answer for you.
You will also want to use the on demand or badass governors to keep the clock speed regulated. An governor like Performance will keep the CPU running at top speed all the time. The phone will run great, but the battery will die in a hurry.
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Yes. Its high.
If you have a specific need for it to be that high, go ahead. That's 1.5 is what the chip is designed for. It can handle it. At 1.7 you are pushing it pretty hard.
But those speeds won't do anything to improve the performance of everyday use like sending texts, making calls, or even in games like angry birds. Ifnyounplay more graphically intensive games, those speeds will be helpful. If you don't they are a waste of battery. Either way though they are using more battery at those speeds, whether you needs those speeds or not.
Backing it off to 1.2 will prevent the device from 'kicking on the afterburners' and dumping battery fast when its at max CPU. Again, if your performance suffers then this isn't the answer for you.
You will also want to use the on demand or badass governors to keep the clock speed regulated. An governor like Performance will keep the CPU running at top speed all the time. The phone will run great, but the battery will die in a hurry.
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I do need it to play vector and real racing 3, but i did set it up to badass
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Well if you need the extra performance then you need it. But the trade off is always going to be decreased battery life with that. Nothing can fix that. Its not a bug, its physics. It takes more gas to go fast.
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Well if you need the extra performance then you need it. But the trade off is always going to be decreased battery life with that. Nothing can fix that. Its not a bug, its physics. It takes more gas to go fast.
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Yh i knw, got no problem with that
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+1. If you take a look at the manual of your battery, it will say something like "500 recharge cycles over the life of the battery" (this is from the ANKER 1900mAh).. that's around 1,5 - 2 years of use. So depending on how often the previous owner of your Sensation charged the phone, the battery could be dead now.
New Battery
Instead of an "Anker" i got an Pisen Battery, said to have around 1780mha but actually is 1870. It works Perfectly and i get six hours screen on time now. it just still goes weird, and sometimes stays on 72 for long and 39 for long, but works just fine still. Just not a really reliable Percentage. I get to test 3g time tomorrow. Hopefully more than one a half hour and burning hands.