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sad for melvins the beast CM 1.3 and xboarders roms are close

.....I'm sad that I just read that Melvin close dev on the rom THE BEAST CM 1.3..xboarders rom nd. pretty much any rom based off CM ........
damn that sucks I love this rom I refuse to go back to sense roms........many things have changes since the g1 days I remember when Google was going after cyanogen cuz of the whole developing issues now just seems like everytime I get a different device it goes sour cuz problems with CM team don't get me wrong CM team has grown and changed the game for all of us and our devices but still sucks .....damn shame!....
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check melvins CM 1.3 post and trich embrace 1.01 rom and actually also xboarder rom they talk about no more working on builds off CM team
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check melvins CM 1.3 post and trich embrace 1.01 rom and actually also xboarder rom they talk about no more working on builds off CM team
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So, uh, you do know that there is an ACTUAL CM rom out, right? Those guys were all doing unofficial ports, which is awesome, but kmobs stepped up and has an alpha build out for the device (which is now listed officially on the CM forums), so the other guys stopped trying to port it...you know, cause its already done.

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So, uh, you do know that there is an ACTUAL CM rom out, right? Those guys were all doing unofficial ports, which is awesome, but kmobs stepped up and has an alpha build out for the device (which is now listed officially on the CM forums), so the other guys stopped trying to port it...you know, cause its already done.
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yeah and I know that but also there is sense 3.0 or GB out there that are made and devs take them and change some stuff to their liking or little tweaks here and there that users may like better than whats put out .....after all that is how alot of this android revolution started and as I remember back in the day that was how CM started ....giving people different options of what was put out bu google ............extra feature here extra feature there little tweaks and all ...........
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Both ROMS are based off of CM7.1 which is still in Alpha and source is not released. I hope they will be back up and running once CM 7.1 is out of development and source is released. Also the CM alphas are pretty darn solid, so hopefully they will progress quickly.

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Both ROMS are based off of CM7.1 which is still in Alpha and source is not released. I hope they will be back up and running once CM 7.1 is out of development and source is released. Also the CM alphas are pretty darn solid, so hopefully they will progress quickly.
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hope that's the case.......
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Sounds to me like these guys want something that's released as alpha, to be ... not alpha right off the bat and handed to them on a silver plate?
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/CaKqnmyeGah
CM has already stated, they won't release source until it's absolutely up to CM standards. Otherwise, you have dudes just re-releasing broken stuff when they kang the sh*t out of it. I don't understand the rage these guys are exhibiting over this.

vaerio81 said:
check melvins CM 1.3 post and trich embrace 1.01 rom and actually also xboarder rom they talk about no more working on builds off CM team
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1) Learn to write in coherent sentences please
2) There is an OFFICIAL CM ROM out! Official CM >>>>>>>>> the rest of the CM ROMs

first off... they're upset with kmobs for using security measures to stop winzip devs from hacking up the alpha builds they were kind enough to give us in the first place.
second off... cm WILL NOT open their repos until all temporary hacks and major bugs are removed. deal with it! it's their code to do with as they wish. end users should be glad they prefer to use clean code over dirty hacks.
third off... kmobs and company have been working hard for months to bring you the alpha builds you see now. can't you see how someone coming along and hacking their work up with 7zip, throwing in some minor changes (i hope you're at least using smali), and then redistributing the work saying it's faster, cleaner, and better MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE DISRESPECTFUL to the original creators of the code?
Lastly, the cm team has no problem with people using their work, but at least have the courtesy to let them finish it before you DEMAND they give it to you to build from and keep it open source. by that i mean dont take their source, compile and build it, release a rom and then never release any source of your own. prove why your rom is improved over the original instead of just saying it is. oh and if you do improve upon it, submit it to gerrit for approval and GIVE BACK to those you take from.
sorry for the rant but demanding someone release their source before it's even finished is totally disrespectful and i couldn't just keep my mouth shut.

well first of all i write how I wana write if u wana read is really up to u buddy if not then look at another post I think the dust under the screen is were he party is at ;-) .....and I'm sure people are not DEMANDING I'm sure they are asking ....demanding and asking are 2 different things .......and all this community is about giving props and sharing hasn't it always been like that ......is not like props or proper thanks isn't given ........ but of course people will disagree cuz that's how the world goes round .....
fan boys will b fan boys ......
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Mmmmmm... No. What's been going on in Kmobs personal G+ feed is waaay closer to demanding than asking.
The ability to see that has nowt to do with fanboyism on either side of the issue, it's simply taking those rose-coloured glasses off and realizing that your favourite xda 'aosp from CM7' 'devs' are most likely not on this development path for the thrill of innovation, nor the joy of doing something truly useful for Android as a whole (like adding new features and such.) Nope, they're mostly in it for the length of their 'thanks meter' aka e-peen, and those clickthroughs/donations. Which means that they will certainly release roms that are based on an alpha, change a bit of ui wording here and there so they can feel justified in telling everyone that 'it's 90 percent their code', add a few half-assed tweaks that cause even more issues on top of that, and then claim it's the best, cleanest, most awesomest rom in the whole wide world.
Small wonder, then, why CM would want do a little 'brand-protection' that they are perfectly entitled to under Apache license.
But then, nowhere is it said in the big book of life that reality pills should be easy to swallow
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vaerio81 said:
well first of all i write how I wana write if u wana read is really up to u buddy if not then look at another post I think the dust under the screen is were he party is at ;-) .....and I'm sure people are not DEMANDING I'm sure they are asking ....demanding and asking are 2 different things .......and all this community is about giving props and sharing hasn't it always been like that ......is not like props or proper thanks isn't given ........ but of course people will disagree cuz that's how the world goes round .....
fan boys will b fan boys ......
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This doesn't make any sense

Lol at internet rage, epeens, and donations. CM7 has every right to protect their intellectual property, and the people that are mad at him can cry moar. Keep up the good work Kmobs.
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You can always by pass brand protection for the most part, Just look at my Twitter on the last Pic I posted..
Regarding there source, just let them work until it's done, after all look at MIUI! They turned around & based the foundation of that rom off of CM & now it's in Production... Don't get me Wrong, they put alot of work into it & I hope everyone understand what I mean regarding that.
Until then, just sit & relax... Have a beer or a case until they release the source for it..
~Eugene

vaerio81 said:
well first of all i write how I wana write if u wana read is really up to u buddy if not then look at another post I think the dust under the screen is were he party is at ;-) .....and I'm sure people are not DEMANDING I'm sure they are asking ....demanding and asking are 2 different things .......and all this community is about giving props and sharing hasn't it always been like that ......is not like props or proper thanks isn't given ........ but of course people will disagree cuz that's how the world goes round .....
fan boys will b fan boys ......
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not a fanboy, not flaming, trolling or calling names. I merely wanted to correct the inaccurate information being spread. Take my post how you will but that was my sole intent.

eugene373 said:
You can always by pass brand protection for the most part, Just look at my Twitter on the last Pic I posted..
Regarding there source, just let them work until it's done, after all look at MIUI! They turned around & based the foundation of that rom off of CM & now it's in Production... Don't get me Wrong, they put alot of work into it & I hope everyone understand what I mean regarding that.
Until then, just sit & relax... Have a beer or a case until they release the source for it..
~Eugene
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u my friend are right and u have been the only one that didnt jump in this conversation with a knife ready to slash people for even mentioning the CM team cuz like I said before we do owe alot to them and they did change the game for us....... so yes I will drink a beer and relax
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Who cares? CM7 is better than the kang anyway.

Sdobron said:
Who cares? CM7 is better than the kang anyway.
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Lol!
Gasoline, have you met fire?
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Lack of AOSP for Sensation - I'm going crazy!

Why is it that ever since the Sensation has come out that there is very little to no AOSP support and/or development for it?
The closest we ever seem to have are Sense-stripped ROMs, and it's so annoying.
Now the CM9 team has stopped Sensation development? What the hell is going on?
Is it the Sensation's architecture that renders it just that difficult for our very respected and talented developers to provide such content?
I despise Sense with the deepest passion imaginable. May someone please explain the lack of AOSP support for this amazing device?
Excuse my ranting but I can't hold out for much longer without knowing a clear answer.

i agree with u

Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt

First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066

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Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt
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For sure, I understand, I'm not trying to be ignorant, I just love AOSP.
Also, with my previous Android device being the myTouch 4G, it received an AOSP ROM, actually a variety of them rather quickly.
Like I said I respect our developers and love them to death, I'm just having AOSP withdrawals. HTC Sense is tearing me apart

moh0 said:
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I knew about the Alpha ROM, just wish it wasn't the only one in development. I believe I saw the CM9 info in another thread. Apparently it was mistaken.

moh0 said:
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt

mrg02d said:
I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
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And I thank the Virtuous team for tackling the project. No one else seems to care, guess Sense has everyone by the neck.

mrg02d said:
I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt
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I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.

moh0 said:
I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.
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+1
No one from cm7 has said that development has stopped. These devs have lives and other things to do and other problems to deal with. Kmobs doesn't want to release a buggy Rom which I think is good.
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When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.

Skipjacks said:
When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.
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News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.

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News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.
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And I'm stoked about the Virtuous project.
I also understand these concerns of "you're not doing much to help" yet all I'm saying, is that I think a powerful and amazing device such as the Sensation should have more of an AOSP ROM variety. Most other devices have all kinds of AOSP ROMs.
I wish all of us, the Sensation community, would have worried more about AOSP ROMs other than our huge database of Sense based ROMs. Don't get me wrong, however, our Sense ROMs are absolutely amazing and they've helped my patience along with, I'm sure, many other user's patience as well.

This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).

tritran18518 said:
This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).
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Actually, the MIUI ROM in the dev section has been updated as of a few days ago. Also there is another highly functional MIUI ROM floating around but linking to it is forbidden. Hit up google if interested.

I think CyanogenMod has to be secretive to function.
You make a good point, I haven't seen hardly any AOSP roms for the sensation besides cyanogenmod. Although I think cyanogenmod 7 is ridiculously fast, and it's aosp, I quite like it...and cm9 beta is available for the sensation, but I agree with the fact that they don't announce ANYTHING...their last update on cm9 was like december 9th.
However, if you think of it from their perspective, can you possibly imagine releasing a buggy beta rom to THAT many people? I mean, the first rom a lot of people hear about is cyanogenmod, so all of the new people would flash that, and we all know how many new people can't read a set of clear instructions...
So, i think that it is almost required for them to keep it on the down low, to avoid mass confusion and complaining from every single user who can't read...It's like when you read the comments morons leave in the market...
anyways, sorry to rant. but Yeah, I think that they pretty much have to be more secretive, not all of their users are active forum members seeking to better the community and not be ignorant.

I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.

DeezNotes said:
I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.
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From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.

aNYthing24 said:
From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.
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Ah that helped me understand a lot more.

just an fyi that xda isn't the only place to find roms...

where the DEVS at!!

where is Development on this phone !!!!!!!!! been like 2 or 3 months and no real Rom yet all this stock bs wheres the goods like Cyanogen or Miui even JKAYS stuff
If it wasnt for the LTE i would have got rid of the phone already for the lack of development.
hope to see some thing soon...

Always have positive attitude towards devs and their work. Or start backing your self.
Cm7 is buggy and we don't have full source therefore Miui is dead!!!! Once we get ICS we will cm9 and MIUI!

appdroid said:
Always have positive attitude towards devs and their work. Or start backing your self.
Cm7 is buggy and we don't have full source therefore Miui is dead!!!! Once we get ICS we will cm9 and MIUI!
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for sure, thanks for the info!!
and i did hit the thanks button....lol

There are; pleanty of great . Roms that are very far from stock. For instance. Red sonja. My personel favorite. Os lightyears from stock. Very fast. No problems at all. I strongly suggezt you do a nandroid of your current setup, and flash it imidately.

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There are; pleanty of great . Roms that are very far from stock. For instance. Red sonja. My personel favorite. Os lightyears from stock. Very fast. No problems at all. I strongly suggezt you do a nandroid of your current setup, and flash it imidately.
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thanks but ive tried all of them red sonia to.... sean is a beast i like his stuff.. hes the only true DEV from what i see... but kudos to all that are doing a little something.. Cheers!!

There is a thread in the dev section about "compiled ICS msm8660". Best I can tell, it is full of a bunch of tallented people that are compiling code line by line and debugging to get an ASOP ICS base for this phone. If those people are not defined as "Devs" I don't think the word should exist. Plus, several great ROMs to chose from in the DEV section. Personally, I'd like to see more done with the "stock" ROM, but there are limitations as to what can be done to an Odexed ROM. It should be interesting to see what happens when Samsung leaks true codes for this phone.

Dude, why don't you do a little something then? Its called contribute. Have some respect for the devs here. They are supporting MANY devices in MANY aspects besides just ROMs. They also have families, friends, and full-time jobs. I have great respect for the devs here and I appreciate all they're work, my device supported or not. I didn't see what I liked so I modded a stock ROM the way I wanted. I didn't sit here and ridicule. I've researched, I've read, researched and read some more. I learned. I'm also doing my best to help others. So now is the tome you shut up or nut up bro. Have some respect for our ass busting devs. Not to mention pro bono. ****. Sorry devs and mods, I appreciate your work and wish I knew or could even do half of what you can. I am loyal. I am supportive. I apologize some people are selfish, irresponsible, and ignorant. Dev on and open source forever!
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There is a thread in the dev section about "compiled ICS msm8660". Best I can tell, it is full of a bunch of tallented people that are compiling code line by line and debugging to get an ASOP ICS base for this phone. If those people are not defined as "Devs" I don't think the word should exist. Plus, several great ROMs to chose from in the DEV section. Personally, I'd like to see more done with the "stock" ROM, but there are limitations as to what can be done to an Odexed ROM. It should be interesting to see what happens when Samsung leaks true codes for this phone.
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wow really thats nice to know i really thought this phone was forgotten thanks all for the info ill just sit back and wait..

bori1030 said:
thanks but ive tried all of them red sonia to.... sean is a beast i like his stuff.. hes the only true DEV from what i see... but kudos to all that are doing a little something.. Cheers!!
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Wow. First this kind of post is usually not tollerated. And im actually suprised you didnt start a major flame war. Second you very obviously do not read, or have any clue what you are talking about. Johnsondr80 and xborder are deffinately true developers. Its obvious you have not taken any time to read anything your lack of knowledge has lead you to create this thread as well as disrespect all the developers. For future refrence think before you post a thread, and do some reading/research.

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Wow. First this kind of post is usually not tollerated. And im actually suprised you didnt start a major flame war. Second you very obviously do not read, or have any clue what you are talking about. Johnsondr80 and xborder are deffinately true developers. Its obvious you have not taken any time to read anything your lack of knowledge has lead you to create this thread as well as disrespect all the developers. For future refrence think before you post a thread, and do some reading/research.
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dude really this **** was yesterdays news keep it moving with your sensitive ass

This is why noobs should not be allowed to post

silver03wrx said:
This is why noobs should not be allowed to post
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Hey I'm a noob technically... lol I agree. Do you're reading and you're research. But I also will admit that the ROMs I've seen aren't my exact flavor. HOWEVER!!! I will still say the ROMs are great work. The devs behind them are awesome. I in no way will ridicule the devs or theyre work. I compiled something I wanted instead. I learned how. By god I almost lost all my hair but I succeeded. And no I probably won't post it or any rom. Not until I get a lot more experience. So devs and mods I appreciate your hard work. I appreciate even more the info you all have left in various threads for us to learn from so we can CONTRIBUTE ourselves instead of flaming others for our own irresponsible ignorant a$$3$. Dev on boys and open source forever
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bori1030 said:
where is Development on this phone !!!!!!!!! been like 2 or 3 months and no real Rom yet all this stock bs wheres the goods like Cyanogen or Miui even JKAYS stuff
If it wasnt for the LTE i would have got rid of the phone already for the lack of development.
hope to see some thing soon...
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go away. if you dont like the speed of development you can man up and do something about it or you can F off.

Our phone has much better dev support than most other phones. You should be happy with it.

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Awesome, willl have to do this once my phone arrives. However, do you actually mean Reduce browser loading times??

Or one could use full-featured, easy apps from the Market such as AdAway or Adfree Android...

Sorry i just cant sit in front of a pc/Linux all day i have a job to go to. Saturdays are my only day for android. If i do it then. Not worth my time i can just do stuff for me and the old lady, not sure what your deal with me is but im not signing on to see these comments. Ill keep my work personL.....in other news samsungs half ics is working well.

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not sure what your deal with me is but im not signing on to see these comments
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What? I think you're taking... whatever it is that it appears that I'm doing, way too personally. Chill out.

Hey, the good news about this thread is that k0nane suggested adfree android, which literally took 15 seconds to get up and running, and is a nifty little tweak!

k0nane said:
Or one could use full-featured, easy apps from the Market such as AdAway or Adfree Android...
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Apologies to OP, but quick Adfree Android question: is there documentation for it somewhere? I checked out bigtincan.com and it doesn't have anything, and on the Android Market^H^H^H Google Play site there's very little by way of documentation. I think it just did its job, but it presents a lot of choices and it would be good to know what they all do.

talindsay said:
Apologies to OP, but quick Adfree Android question: is there documentation for it somewhere? I checked out bigtincan.com and it doesn't have anything, and on the Android Market^H^H^H Google Play site there's very little by way of documentation. I think it just did its job, but it presents a lot of choices and it would be good to know what they all do.
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Adaway is actually a little easier to use, I recommend that one
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k0nane said:
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Is there a specific reason your being so rude? Or are you feeling insecure that there is another bad ass dev coming out with fixes. or is it your just that stuck up and must have all the likes. Last I heard Android is open source and last I checked we were all supposed to help one another not point out each others down falls or pick at them. Your rude and have my word that I would never support you and your obnoxious mouth. </rant> good day sir

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Is there a specific reason your being so rude? Or are you feeling insecure that there is another bad ass dev coming out with fixes. or is it that just that your just that stuck up and must have all the likes. Last I heard Android is open source and last I checked we were all supposed to help one another not point out each others down falls or pick at them. Your rude and have my word that I would never support you and your obnoxious mouth. </rant> good day sir
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Do you really think that k0nane's post was rude? Really? It is just another way to accomplish the same thing. That dude gave us root. That in itself is way more than most have offered.
I thank everyone for the work they're putting in for this device, but to say that his post was rude is reaching a bit. He just gave another option, and it is a good one.
We're all on the same team.

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Do you really think that k0nane's post was rude? Really? It is just another way to accomplish the same thing. That dude gave us root. That in itself is way more than most have offered.
I thank everyone for the work they're putting in for this device, but to say that his post was rude is reaching a bit. He just gave another option, and it is a good one.
We're all on the same team.
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Yep and the same man helped him on his journey of getting the root. I feel the man is acting childish following him around and under minding his every turn. Same team.... I thought. But with this crap going on..... Just because he achived root doesn't give him rights to act like a snob.

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Yep and the same man helped him on his journey of getting the root. I feel the man is acting childish following him around and under minding his every turn. Same team.... I thought. But with this crap going on..... Just because he achived root doesn't give him rights to act like a snob.
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But what it comes down to, is that he gave a simple answer to what was being addressed in the thread, right?
I don't care who helps who getting what in the scheme of things.
I'm a beggar and not a chooser at this point so I gotta love those that are giving to the community. Whoo devs!

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But what it comes down to, is that he gave a simple answer to what was being addressed in the thread, right?
I don't care who helps who getting what in the scheme of things.
I'm a beggar and not a chooser at this point so I gotta love those that are giving to the community. Whoo devs!
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So has anyone here in general tried out the Noble rom?

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Is there a specific reason your being so rude? Or are you feeling insecure that there is another bad ass dev coming out with fixes. or is it your just that stuck up and must have all the likes. Last I heard Android is open source and last I checked we were all supposed to help one another not point out each others down falls or pick at them. Your rude and have my word that I would never support you and your obnoxious mouth. </rant> good day sir
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badass dev? when is he coming?
anyways in all seriousness the point that k0nane was trying to make i believe was fully justified. by using nicks tweak you rely on him updating it, which from the looks of it... doesnt seem to be happening. what does android being open source have to do with helping or not helping? as far as i can see there was an alternative given thats all, no different than if i made a huge giant post about how to use alogcat and get your msl. which works fine but there is an easier way of just using getprop.
so far from what ive seen of this community is a bunch of crying on how there are no roms/kernels etc. we had one blaze owner in teh irc for teh longest time. helping with root/recovery and whenever starskyrob had a moment to test his rom. everyone claims to want cm7/cm9/aokp/ics yet i havent seen anyone except (forgive me for misspelling your name if i did) dr4stic even try to compile. if you want good things to happen to your device then you need to step forward, look into rom development, learn how to compile the kernel from source. if you cant/arent willing to put the time in then find someone who is ive mentioned all around this forum no dev is gunna give up their high end device to go buy and work on the blaze.
myself and k0nane are on sprint it just happened to be that we like to go around and help phones that dont seem like they are gunna get the big name treatment. i tweeted at my buddy mikeyinid (we worked together on the nexus s back in the day) see if he wouldnt mind helping you guys on out...

shabbypenguin said:
badass dev? when is he coming?
anyways in all seriousness the point that k0nane was trying to make i believe was fully justified. by using nicks tweak you rely on him updating it, which from the looks of it... doesnt seem to be happening. what does android being open source have to do with helping or not helping? as far as i can see there was an alternative given thats all, no different than if i made a huge giant post about how to use alogcat and get your msl. which works fine but there is an easier way of just using getprop.
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And that is 100% respected. I am not only talking Bout this post, rather all of his post that have followed one of nicks. I am glad you guys helped. But that doesn't give the right to treat others in a condescending manner. Nick has done amazing work on the vibrant and now has this phone and wad helping this man. Once the man got what he needed ( because like you stated, he nor you have the device) he was out. Then started treating him like this. Shabby, problem wasn't with you. I just had to step in and defend nick because he is a bad ass dev.
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I personally think a lot of the problem is the average user's interpretation of T-mobile sales reps.
I mean, I knew the S2 had a very large rom community especially because it's a very popular phone. I was led to believe by T-mobile that the phone is pretty much just an S2, but with a smaller size screen.
If you compare the phone's features and specifications, you'd be a fool to not agree.
But as it turns out, as it pertains to roms, nothing could be further from the truth.
Shame on us, the average user, for not realizing the golden rules with salespeople:
1: They'll tell you what you want to hear.
2: Most of the time they don't know what they are talking about anyway.
3: Often times when you need to buy a phone, you've not exactly been planning on it, so you have to do it hastily. This was certainly true for me.
4: Custom roms are of course never able to be supported or recognized by the carriers, they pretty much pretend they don't exist, and for good reason. Most people aren't really careful enough to be doing it, even for the "simple" methods.
5: Rom maker's ability to communicate instructions is not always clear, and yes, this can have a detrimental impact to a person, especially if they are not experienced with the process. Seriously, half of the roms I've looked at for Android phones have glaring instruction errors, and even if it gets pointed out by another person, rather than update their instructions they'll just reply, "Yeah, sorry about that" The problem is, that clarification is often times on the 40th page of the thread. Sigh.
6: And this is my number one reason........
A lot more people should be getting more and more fed up with carriers who impose limitations on phones. Seriously, if it wasn't for all this carrier and manufacturer ego-wagging, the user experience would be better for both the tweaker crowd, and the stock crowd.

shabbypenguin said:
badass dev? when is he coming?
anyways in all seriousness the point that k0nane was trying to make i believe was fully justified. by using nicks tweak you rely on him updating it, which from the looks of it... doesnt seem to be happening. what does android being open source have to do with helping or not helping? as far as i can see there was an alternative given thats all, no different than if i made a huge giant post about how to use alogcat and get your msl. which works fine but there is an easier way of just using getprop.
so far from what ive seen of this community is a bunch of crying on how there are no roms/kernels etc. we had one blaze owner in teh irc for teh longest time. helping with root/recovery and whenever starskyrob had a moment to test his rom. everyone claims to want cm7/cm9/aokp/ics yet i havent seen anyone except (forgive me for misspelling your name if i did) dr4stic even try to compile. if you want good things to happen to your device then you need to step forward, look into rom development, learn how to compile the kernel from source. if you cant/arent willing to put the time in then find someone who is ive mentioned all around this forum no dev is gunna give up their high end device to go buy and work on the blaze.
myself and k0nane are on sprint it just happened to be that we like to go around and help phones that dont seem like they are gunna get the big name treatment. i tweeted at my buddy mikeyinid (we worked together on the nexus s back in the day) see if he wouldnt mind helping you guys on out...
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I appreciate the help with root and CWM but not the comments that follow all of mine. I have Saturdays to work with this device, so I am limited with time. I got to the point where I felt like baking for my wife and I ...= less drama. Ill be more than happy to post a "bootable , Functional Rom. But it will be redirected here: http://www.android-engineering.com/index.php
Sorry I can't sit here 24/7 I work 6 day's a week and spend the extra time with my 3 kids. I got to a point where I was neglecting my fam and was staying on the PC trying to keep up with 5 Rom's. Something had to give. What am I not updating? Is there a need? This will be put into my rom instead of an extra app. If something needs updating when I update a rom it will be done with each release. If it is unappreciated just delete the thread.

alright, its clear. i cant speak for k0nane but i can for myself. the hitsquad attempts to help devices get off teh ground but it doesnt seem like that is much wanted round here. so my apologies but ill go ahead and remove this forum from my daily loadup macro.
im keeping the cwm thread open and source up on my github for any future devs that wish it. i hope no hard feelings and best of luck to you all

shabbypenguin said:
alright, its clear. i cant speak for k0nane but i can for myself. the hitsquad attempts to help devices get off teh ground but it doesnt seem like that is much wanted round here. so my apologies but ill go ahead and remove this forum from my daily loadup macro.
im keeping the cwm thread open and source up on my github for any future devs that wish it. i hope no hard feelings and best of luck to you all
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This. My threads will remain open as well.
I can't control how anyone interprets what I write - and that's all I'm going to say on the matter. Blaze owners, enjoy your devices, and best of luck, as Shabby said.

[Q] Question about maintaining ROMs

I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)

Instead of giving your 2 cents, do it yourself. What's your definition of stable. I've been on PAC since it's come out and have zero complaints. Your want stable? Don't root, don't flash, don't modify. There, perfectly stable. Saying "my point is not to criticize" doesn't absolve you from being completely ungrateful for the hard work it takes to do this. Do it yourself. XDA is a development forum, not completely 100 percent stable forum. Don't like it? Go get an iPhone.
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Most of the roms are stable. You can find things to ***** about on any rom, including stock.
When it comes to something not getting fixed it can come down to the dev not enough time, or its not worth the effort, or they moved on to a different device. I mean is it really worth fixing a bug that 2 people are experiencing if it is going to take a few weeks away from your family, I don't think so. And that is about how solid 95% of the roms are. Give some props.
There are probably 25 ROMs over 4 revisions of android... Its our job as USERS to spend the time and effort to find one we like, and that suits us. If a ROM has a bug that is detrimental to the use you need, look at another one. So try not to criticize devs when you haven't done your due diligence as a user.

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I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)
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Fully stable is damn near impossible, man. There is sooo much involved in coding these ROMs it's literally staggering. These devs aren't software developers (not most of them) but just regular guys, working regular jobs like you and me. If you want completely stable best to stay stock rooted (so you can drop all that bloatware bull****) Most of these developers have day jobs that don't involve android and do this in their spare time, for us. To be frank, man, you did come across EXTREMELY critical, and the folks around here don't take kindly to that (just breath @njstein) What's the saying? Beggars can't be choosers? My point, if you want to run 4.3 your're gonna have to take the good with the bad, just suck it up and deal with the FEW bugs. I've been on 4.3 for a couple months now with no serious issues.. Just a few bugs. And for future reference, keep this kind of thing to yourself

I had no intention a dragging this into what it has become. Obviously no one understands the point I was making or the question I was asking. I'm not going to further this conversation anymore.

I don't understand why you are making a statement in general to all ROMs. The reason why the older ROMs are unsupported is because there is no reason to waste time updating them as the guy above explained. That's why you will never see halo on ICS. Now, 4.3 roms are supported at the moment. If you like an iPhone then congratulations.
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Because if every dev stayed on ICS we'd have loads of folks asking if 'such and such device' will ever get a jb or kk rom. Seriously re-read the posts about how difficult it is to code. Your post is akin to asking someone to rebuild a car engine multiple times because every 5000 miles the thing misfires. Why did it misfire? Was it a plug/wire? Something in the valves/cylinder? Electrical? Fuel delivery? How many hours do you expect someone to waste tracking and rebuilding (sometimes rebuilding everything) for every bug in a rom- even the bugs properly reported with a log?
And I've yet to see any device from Sammy to HTC to lg or any device at all that's 100% stable - even on stock. And that's from companies that have software development teams.
And don't listen to those folks about getting an iPhone- that platform isn't 100% stable or perfect either. What you are looking for is a dumbphone.
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Yup.... Why keep rebuilding that 4 banger (ICS) when with the same amount of work you can drop in a V6 (jb 4.1). And the same when a V8 (jb 4.3) is available to drop in. Then the 4 and the 6 get scrapped for some extra beer money, and you tinker with the latest and greatest again.

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Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
Edit: I don't want the mods to come on here and waste their time. Keep it clean next time

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Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
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You're right. It's important to remember that no one here is under ANY obligation to share anything - roms, root, recoveries, mods, etc - with anyone. So lets just appreciate what we have. :thumbup:
Let's also get a mod to close this thread, nothing more good can come of it.

This trollfest has gone on long enough. The sheer amount of disrespect flying around astounds me. Read the rules folks.
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