The samsung galaxy ace 2 VS the samsung galaxy w.
These two very similar phones are driving me insane, I can't choose between them, so I could really do with some help.
Part of it comes down to lower power duelcore vs more powerful single core.
But there is also NFC capability, and how all this effects the battery?
Is powering two cores worse for the battery than powering one huge one? ram is also a concern, average vs better than? is trading processor for ram ok, how will that effect the experience?
The prices I can get them for ace 2 £220 (this price does not include unlocking it) http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/SAMSUNG_GALAXY_ACE_2/PPAY/NEW
galaxy w £230 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-I8150-Galaxy-Free-Smartphone/dp/tech-data/B005HBKGXS Help me android community, you're my only hope.
(I've been looking into it for a good while now, here's what I've found) http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Ace-2-vs-Samsung-GALAXY-W http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_2_i8160-4559.php http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_w_i8150-4114.php http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2,Samsung-GALAXY-W/phones/6940,6098
Thanks for reading this far!
I've personally had the galaxy w/exhibit ii and loved it. It was fast and zippy and the screen was amazing. I think it came with a single core 1.0 GHz processor and 512 mb of RAM, so it was pretty fast specs wise. There is also a sizable amount of development for it as well. Also $200 for a phone this powerful was well worth it.
I don't know much about the galaxy ace 2, but I can personally vouched for the galaxy w.
Ace2 better than w
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I think Samsung galaxy w better, because the CPU Clock is 1,4 GHz and Ace 2 is only 800MHz. These both is NOT UPGRADEABLE TO ICS .
Elwino2.3 said:
I think Samsung galaxy w better, because the CPU Clock is 1,4 GHz and Ace 2 is only 800MHz. These both is NOT UPGRADEABLE TO ICS .
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Ace 2 has 800 MHz DUAL CORE
Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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No doubt. It's newer technology, but it doesn't matter if you OWNED BOTH
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Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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If your penis is so small you need to compare a phone with your tablet.
Yes, then you got beaten.
I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
Okay maybe some people like to charge their device twice a day...
I laugh at everyone that say they are going to wait for the "ultimate phone".
You might as well just never buy a phone then, since not even 6-months later something WILL be better then what you have.
The only thing lately that hasn't been changing so fast in the tech world has been TV and Desktop computer parts.
My SLI GTX 580 setup (which is coming close to 3 years old), is just as fast as a single GTX680, if not faster in some cases!
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Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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The note 2 already surpassed it in performance. I have both and I love my TF, but the performance of the note 2 is considerably better.
Beyond that the DNA(though I'll never buy HTC again) surpasses even the note 2 in performance.
I-Dig!
WOW... You said it all! Good one...
You will most likley pay 600.00 and a 40 year service contract wid the carrier.
Lets see, hmm, how long is my service contract with the TF700t... Oh yeah I don't have one.....
DarsVaeda said:
If your penis is so small you need to compare a phone with your tablet.
Yes, then you got beaten.
I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
Okay maybe some people like to charge their device twice a day...
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The Galaxy S4's specs are just speculation, but I am sure most of us here know that there are many devices that are CURRENTLY available on the market that can easily surpass the tf700 just by comparing specs. Tegra 3 was already outdated the moment the Galaxy S3 was announced. Just to name a few, any devices with Snapdragon S4 Pro and Exynos 5 (LG Optimus G, LG Nexus 4, HTC Droid DNA, J Butterfly, Galaxy S3, Note 2, Note 10.1, etc...) will surely give you better performance (both overall and graphical performance) than any Tegra 3-powered devices (including the tf700).
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The Galaxy S4's specs are just speculation, but I am sure most of us here know that there are many devices that are CURRENTLY available on the market that can easily surpass the tf700 just by comparing specs. Tegra 3 was already outdated the moment the Galaxy S3 was announced. Just to name a few, any devices with Snapdragon S4 Pro and Exynos 5 (LG Optimus G, LG Nexus 4, HTC Droid DNA, J Butterfly, Galaxy S3, Note 2, Note 10.1, etc...) will surely give you better performance (both overall and graphical performance) than any Tegra 3-powered devices (including the tf700).
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all the samsung/exynos devices you mention there are Exynos 4 devices and those have the Cortex a9 cores as Tegra3, i guess gpu wise the Exynos 4 mali 400 could be faster
And if we speak now of a new 8 core exynos then i guess we also should speak that we have a 5 core A9 in our system!! the Exynos 4 of the Galaxy S3 is only a 4 core...
But thats all crap and marketing the Exynos 5 Octa is just a quad core you system/os will never see 8 cores only 4 just as we see only 4 and not 5
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I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
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I remember people saying that about 1ghz phones. Then dual core phones. In 6 to 12 months quad core phones will be the norm and someone will undoubtedly say "There is no need for 8 cores in a mobile device".
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I remember people saying that about 1ghz phones. Then dual core phones. In 6 to 12 months quad core phones will be the norm and someone will undoubtedly say "There is no need for 8 cores in a mobile device".
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it will be a while before we get real 8 cores in mobile devices..
even the next arm chip: http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a50/cortex-a57-processor.php
is designed to be a quadcore setup in single processor (they do support clusters of those again but i guess thats for servers)
And we only get now the A15, Nexus 10" being the first, no phones yet.
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all the samsung/exynos devices you mention there are Exynos 4 devices and those have the Cortex a9 cores as Tegra3, i guess gpu wise the Exynos 4 mali 400 could be faster
And if we speak now of a new 8 core exynos then i guess we also should speak that we have a 5 core A9 in our system!! the Exynos 4 of the Galaxy S3 is only a 4 core...
But thats all crap and marketing the Exynos 5 Octa is just a quad core you system/os will never see 8 cores only 4 just as we see only 4 and not 5
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Oops, I was thinking about the Nexus 10 when I was talking about Exynos 5. You're right, it should be Exynos 4 instead. Nevertheless, it does not change my point about Tegra 3's being outdated. For instance, when it comes to memory performance, Tegra 3 only has single channel memory controller as opposed to dual channels found in almost anything else (from Apple, Qualcomm to Samsung), a fact that is readily taken advantage of by Amazon when they introduced the Kindle Fire HD (TI OMAP 4 vs Tegra 3). Overall, if you follow articles on Anandtech about mobile SoCs, Exynos 4 gives you much better performance and more power efficient.
I was not aware of any sort of competition...
ShadowLea said:
I was not aware of any sort of competition...
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Apparently you don't attend the annual Mai Cawk convention.....
hx4700 Killer said:
Apparently you don't attend the annual Mai Cawk convention.....
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I'm a woman.
There are two types of electronic devices, experimental and obsolete. If you always waited for the next great thing you'd still be using a rotary dial phone.
gottahavit said:
The note 2 already surpassed it in performance. I have both and I love my TF, but the performance of the note 2 is considerably better.
Beyond that the DNA(though I'll never buy HTC again) surpasses even the note 2 in performance.
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haha true. Quad core exynos is very snappy. Games are smooth and had the better effects. ie. blurr effect on Nova 3, Modern combat 4. I havent felt the need to do anything to it besides root. My s3 now seems so outdated lol.
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haha true. Quad core exynos is very snappy. Games are smooth and had the better effects. ie. blurr effect on Nova 3, Modern combat 4. I havent felt the need to do anything to it besides root. My s3 now seems so outdated lol.
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Eh? The S3 has an Exynos Quad Core.... The one in the Note2 is 0.2ghz faster, but that's it.
Unless you're unlucky enough to be American, of course.
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Eh? The S3 has an Exynos Quad Core.... The one in the Note2 is 0.2ghz faster, but that's it.
Unless you're unlucky enough to be American, of course.
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Haha ya American version s3 here.
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It got beaten by more than one phone, all quad core krait phones and the note II
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It got beaten by more than one phone, all quad core krait phones and the note II
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Unless you start looking at the screen resolution, of course. Any Gamer knows that a lower resolution uses less resources, and thus gives more frames per second.
I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
There is a lag in the GT2? Hmm didn't notice that... But since I want 4G LTE on my tab, there isn't a lot of choices...
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I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram. I noticed it more on touchwiz but after I got pacman ROM and over clocked it to 1.5 GHz its working pretty smooth. I can even play some high quality games without lag. So I guess the only way to actually get it to be smooth is on an aosp ROM and over clocking it to 1.4 just to be safe
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram.
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Thanks, that's the info I was after and is what I'd suspected. I'd much rather run vanilla and unrooted tbh. I bought an iPad and whilst it was a restrictive OS I liked the smoothness so subsequently really enjoyed the freedom of not having to mess around with Rom's trying to smooth things out as I'd tried before with an original Xoom.
So do you see any lag at all using the Note? Things like pinch-zooming on the web, flicking between apps etc?
Actually there is something that gets lost in the details and blogs, the real answer is..it depends. Not all Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 devices are the same. The ATT Variant actually comes with a Dual Core 1.5 GHZ S4 Krait, basically the same chips inside of the US S3s, which makes for a very very very snappy package. If you are looking at a 1.0 GHZ model, meeh, but if you happen to come across a newer carrier model, TMobile, ATT, etc, they are an order of magnitude faster than the stock 10.1 Tab 2.
There was a bit of a scandal with the Octa SGS4 because it was discovered that Exynos 5410 only supported one of the two big.LITTLE operating modes. There are two: migration mode (1-4 A7 cores or 1-4 A15 cores running at the same time) and heterogeneous multi processing mode (HMP) where 1-8 cores can be running at the same time. The new Exynos 5420 chip in the N3 now supports HMP which should really improve high-end performance. We'll have to see what it does to battery life.
This is a good explanation of what was wrong in 5410 (SGS4) and what's new in 5420 (N3)...
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...ta-can-use-eight-cores-simultaneously-267316/
I have a feeling it will end up being a success. It might even being what's put into the S5. I'm sure it might be an upgraded version of it but it will mainly be the same chip.
Right now the most powerful chip is the S800. I'm not sure about the new Octa-Core as far as being more powerful but it could definitely be more efficient. That's soon going to be what people want as you only need so much power for a phone. I'm sure Samsung will implement there own envelope tracker down the road but from what I've read. There new Octa-Core going in the Note 3 doesn't have one. The S800 version of the Note 3 is the only phone to date to have one. If it works as well as they say. It will be great.
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So its running 4 A7s+ 4 A15s at one go? 4 express and 4 normal lanes?
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Are you sure intl Note 3 is going to get 5420? Samsung says end of Q4 and Note 3 is coming this 25th.
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Are you sure intl Note 3 is going to get 5420? Samsung says end of Q4 and Note 3 is coming this 25th.
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That's like 5 days from Q4!
The main issue with 5410 is certain hardware constraint. For 5420, it's just a matter of software upgrade. Exynos Dev AndreiLux has mentioned it a few times.
It will never have HMP.
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The only thing needed from Samsung is a working MCPM backend which we already have on the 5420. Getting HMP working is a matter of upstreaming the kernel core to 3.11 and that's it. I'm talking about the 5420 here as that's just a matter of software, not 5410 where it's physically not possible.
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Hello I want to know if its possible someday a port from Note 2014 to our Note 2012, this is gonna be obsolete?
I 2nd that! Seeing as it has been done on the Note 3 to Note 2. Should be possible?
This won't be possible. The Note 10.1 2014, uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 CPU and a Qualcomm Adreno GPU. The 'normal' 10.1 uses a Samsung Exynos 4410 CPU and a Mali-400 MP4 GPU.
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This won't be possible. The Note 10.1 2014, uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 CPU and a Qualcomm Adreno GPU. The 'normal' 10.1 uses a Samsung Exynos 4410 CPU and a Mali-400 MP4 GPU.
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This is what port means mastermind
To chnage what is needed to make a rom work on other device rather than its own.
Yes, you're right but the Hardware differences are big! If you think so, go ahead and try it. Good luck
I know the hardware is a big difference between the two but theres got to be some approximation that would work on our systems...I know that for the most part I would be looking for the revamped s-pen input, especially the menu that pops up when you hold down the pen button (air command? Quick command? Something like that?)
The stuff that I would really want would be the stuff from a Note 3...which as I understand is closer to my n8013 than the new Note 2014. Maybe a hybrid with the backbone of the old system, tweaked and updated to the latest Android, with all the S-goodies from this year's phone and tablet. If it can work on the Note 3 it cant be too far off from the original 10.1 right? *crosses fingers* im dying for a reason to talk my wife into surrendering my note 10.1 so I can get out of this God awful ipad mini.
Dear Santa...blah blah blah 2014 ROM blah blah blah.
I have spoken to devs that have ported note 3 to note 2 and they think that it would be quite easy. The hardware between the note 3 and the note 2 is quite a leap and yet the note 3 works brilliant on my note 2, in fact I prefer my note 2 over my new note 3.
It won't be able to be ported until we get the 4.3 official rom.
port note 10.1 2014 or note 3 UI to galaxy note 10.1 2012
Has anyone done this yet, are they still waiting on a 4.3 update for this device. Would love to use my n8013 with the new s-pen features or the 8.0 as well.