I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
There is a lag in the GT2? Hmm didn't notice that... But since I want 4G LTE on my tab, there isn't a lot of choices...
GrandMasterPlank said:
I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram. I noticed it more on touchwiz but after I got pacman ROM and over clocked it to 1.5 GHz its working pretty smooth. I can even play some high quality games without lag. So I guess the only way to actually get it to be smooth is on an aosp ROM and over clocking it to 1.4 just to be safe
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram.
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Thanks, that's the info I was after and is what I'd suspected. I'd much rather run vanilla and unrooted tbh. I bought an iPad and whilst it was a restrictive OS I liked the smoothness so subsequently really enjoyed the freedom of not having to mess around with Rom's trying to smooth things out as I'd tried before with an original Xoom.
So do you see any lag at all using the Note? Things like pinch-zooming on the web, flicking between apps etc?
Actually there is something that gets lost in the details and blogs, the real answer is..it depends. Not all Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 devices are the same. The ATT Variant actually comes with a Dual Core 1.5 GHZ S4 Krait, basically the same chips inside of the US S3s, which makes for a very very very snappy package. If you are looking at a 1.0 GHZ model, meeh, but if you happen to come across a newer carrier model, TMobile, ATT, etc, they are an order of magnitude faster than the stock 10.1 Tab 2.
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Hey guys
The other day a friend of mine was boasting that his galaxy note and his samsung galaxy S2 were much faster than the asus transformer. I love my asus transformer, but I don't have any clue about how good it is compared to other devices. That's why I am asking you guys now, just out of curiousity: Does anyone know if the Note and Galaxy S2 are faster than the Transformer?
Thanks in Advance
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Maybe a tiny bit for the fact they have smaller displays and don't necessarily have to upscale things.
Yep. I recently got a Galaxy S2, and it is definitely fast. However, I think it's just deceivingly fast because of the smaller size (it doesn't have to update a giant display). If I had to compare, I'd say that my Galaxy is faster for most things, but my Asus is not much slower.
I'm not sure if this is only about display size. If I'm not wrong the S2 gpu do have more raw power than tegra 2. S2 is faster, but tegra have more compatible games. To run some games in mali (S2 gpu) you have to install some stuff, not so simple for regular users. To tablet, I really think tegra is the right choice. About note, clock is higher than S2 but resolution is too. S2 is a bit faster.
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I'm not sure if this is only about display size. If I'm not wrong the S2 gpu do have more raw power than tegra 2. S2 is faster, but tegra have more compatible games. To run some games in mali (S2 gpu) you have to install some stuff, not so simple for regular users. To tablet, I really think tegra is the right choice. About note, clock is higher than S2 but resolution is too. S2 is a bit faster.
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Yea, it also depends on which S2 you're talking about since samsung released so many different versions of it.
the word fast is too general. the smaller device will travel faster if you throw it
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the word fast is too general. the smaller device will travel faster if you throw it
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Not in vacuum
It's not about screen size but screen resolution and specs. 800x480 (galaxy s2) vs 1280x800 (note &tf), not to mention both the samsung phones are clocked higher and have a significantly better gpu (mali400 is faster then ulp geforce). The transformer is still plenty fast though.
Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
Forgot to mention, it is the P6210 model (wifi + IR, no 3G).
Is it the same as the P6200 model for rooting the device? Is it possible to use a P6200 rom on the P6210? Am i correct that the p6200 has more dev support than the P6210?
This to keep the change on ics as open as possible.
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Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
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Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!
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The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!
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Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.
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Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.
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+1 for the Tab 7 plus which I bought.
Far better specs than the Tab2 IMHO . the Exynos processor is great. Agree with the comments on the remaning space left onthe Tab2. 2M front camera on the plus is actually pretty good in comparison.
Just watch out for wifi. On tab plus a few folks have had issues with wifi (me included, but only @ work, so less of an issue for me) no idea whether that's fixed on the ICS build for the Tab 2, but poss something to think about.
I'd still go for the Tab 7 Plus personally.
still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead
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still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead
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Check out the GT 8.9 if you get a chance, also very solid!
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The GTab 2 has an OMAP 4430 which is also used in Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. I have the Kindle Fire which is a decent performer, but in terms of graphics performance, the GTab Plus with Exynos chip and Mali400 GPU really blows the SGX 540 @ 300 MHz of the OMAP 4430 away.
Yes they both play 1080p videos smoothly - downloaded H.264 or DIVX videos, or Adobe Flash in the browser (NOT through youtube app). However, GTab+ has superior browser experience - webpages load much quicker (eg. website pictures and text are ready for viewing much earlier when it is waiting for Adobe flash ads to load). Drag to view different parts of the webpage and pinch-zooming is buttery smooth in the GTab+ and stuttery in the Kindle Fire. Maybe it cannot all be blamed on the processor - maybe Honeycomb on the GTab+ helps because KF has Gingerbread. I am not into games but I expect the GTab+ should also perform better than the OMAP4430.
IMO, it is worth spending $50 more for the GTab+ than the GTab2 (yes I waited for the price drop to buy my GTab+)
After a month of use I finally took my Galaxy Tab 8.9 back to the shop today to get a refund. Turns out that people weren't exaggerating that slowdown you get on Tegra 2 tabs...
Anyway! I'm in the market for a new Tab now. I'll probably hang on to see if anything is announced at Google I/O (like the rumoured quad core $250 tab) but if not, what's my best bet? The 7.0 Plus on Honeycomb or the Tab 2 &" on ICS?
My biggest concern is how well the 1GHz TI OMAP + PowerVR GPU chipsets in the Tab 2 hold up against the Exynos + Mali400 in the 7.0 Plus. As long as the Tab 2 can deal with 720p .mp4 video (which the 8.9 certainly couldn't!) and play decent games like Sonic 4, GTA III and Anomaly HD, I'll be happy.
I have the SGT 2 10.1 which also has the same chip as the SGT 2 7, and I can say the 720p screen and ICS is too much for it. All the games play quite bad, even custom roms don't fix much of the lag. I am thinking of selling it and getting the cheapest Acer/Asus etc. quad-core tab.
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I have the SGT 2 10.1 which also has the same chip as the SGT 2 7, and I can say the 720p screen and ICS is too much for it. All the games play quite bad, even custom roms don't fix much of the lag. I am thinking of selling it and getting the cheapest Acer/Asus etc. quad-core tab.
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I'm hoping performance won't be as bad on the 7inch Tab due to the much smaller screen resolution. One thing I am considering is where I can reliably purchase a 7.0 Plus from, which at the moment seems like no-where. I have purchased it from online sellers in the past and had many issues, such as bad firmware or missing IRDA blasters.
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I'm hoping performance won't be as bad on the 7inch Tab due to the much smaller screen resolution. One thing I am considering is where I can reliably purchase a 7.0 Plus from, which at the moment seems like no-where. I have purchased it from online sellers in the past and had many issues, such as bad firmware or missing IRDA blasters.
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Personally (And please take this with a grain of salt as I purchased the Tab2 7.0) I would go with the Tab2 7.0. First off the CPU is easily overclocked past the Plus' CPU, so the only real advantage the plus has is out the window. The 7.0 doesn't have a rear flash, but to tell you the truth, if you are taking pictures with your tablet you are doing it wrong.
The 7.0 has plenty of speed especially after ROMing and OCing. Even without that, the tablet still flies compared to the OG Transformer I used to own. I don't know if the 10" is that much slower, but it sounds like an over exaggeration to me. Touchwiz is pretty decent on the tablet and leaves plenty of RAM (Usually around 500 MB after initial boot) to allow the device room to expand.
I was debating the two before buying and I just believe that the Tab2 7.0 is a much easier buy, especially for the price.
Oh and don't forget the 7.0 has ICS while the Plus is still stuck on HC, that's actually really big right there.
For the videos, I found on my Tab 2, some players are better at playing certain videos than others. For instance I have some 720p MKV anime files that play well with software decoding on one player, and run 720p mp4's like garbage. I then switch to the other player and the 720p mp4 runs smooth like butter and the mkv can't render.
So yes, the TAB can handle the 720 files, you just may need to find a video player (or players -- I use 3 different ones) that works for you. (1080 content though is pushing it).
So yes, the TAB can handle the 720 files, you just may need to find a video player (or players -- I use 3 different ones) that works for you. (1080 content though is pushing it).
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Just asking if you tried 1080p mkv and what was the result. Cnet reviews for Tab 2 10 showing slow frame rates while they said they couldnt get it to work on 1080p.
Im just wondering how come a Galaxy S2 phone can play native 1080pmkv just fine, with a few 0.4 (or is it 0.2) ghz dual core. I know that processors are made by different companies, so is the Texas Instrument processor just not powerful enough?
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Just asking if you tried 1080p mkv and what was the result. Cnet reviews for Tab 2 10 showing slow frame rates while they said they couldnt get it to work on 1080p.
Im just wondering how come a Galaxy S2 phone can play native 1080pmkv just fine, with a few 0.4 (or is it 0.2) ghz dual core. I know that processors are made by different companies, so is the Texas Instrument processor just not powerful enough?
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I just tried a 1080p mkv with diceplayer on HW rendering and it ran fine. Then again I am running a custom rom.
Also a 1.2ghz exynos > 1.0ghz OMAP4.
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I just tried a 1080p mkv with diceplayer on HW rendering and it ran fine. Then again I am running a custom rom.
Also a 1.2ghz exynos > 1.0ghz OMAP4.
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Just to clarify you did a test on a Tab 7.0/7.7 / 2-7.0 or a nexus?
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Just to clarify you did a test on a Tab 7.0/7.7 / 2-7.0 or a nexus?
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Tab 2 GT-P3113
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I'm just wondering why samsung uses 1.4ghz on the note 10.1 while the smaller phablet note2 uses a faster 1.6ghz. It make more sense to use a faster SOC on the tablet than on a phone.
Since Note 10.1 came out first, do you think got people willing to buy Note 2 (N7100), if the Note 10.1 is using 1.6 GHz and the Note 2 using 1.4 GHz ???
With all the new features in 10.1", I think samsung itself still confident to sell this Note 10.1" under 1.4GHz processor. The features is the selling point of this Note 10.1".
And if I'm not wrong, Note 2 will have the similar features with Note 10.1". Differences only on the processor, screen (which is AMOLED), and the Jellybean. So, that one will be the selling point from Note 2 again.
And don't forget, the launching within these 2 devices is very close. And I don't think Note 10.1" will get Jellybean until the Note 2 is released on the market.
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I'm just wondering why samsung uses 1.4ghz on the note 10.1 while the smaller phablet note2 uses a faster 1.6ghz. It make more sense to use a faster SOC on the tablet than on a phone.
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Because the Note 2 is getting released 2-3 months later than the 10.1, which gives Samsung time to get their chip production line ramped up enough to reliably produce 1.6 GHz chips?
does the note 2 and the 10.1 not have the same processor only the note 2 is clocked higher?
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does the note 2 and the 10.1 not have the same processor only the note 2 is clocked higher?
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They do I believe, just one is a little higher.
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They do I believe, just one is a little higher.
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Yup, just like the original Note - same CPU as GS2 except clocked 200 MHz higher. (Which shouldn't be difficult when you release the device 6+ months after the first device with the same CPU.)
if they hava same processor, i think v might ovrrclock to 1.6ghz as well
I already oc my note to 1600Mhz. Running smooth without problems.
Infact I didnt have to raise the voltage and the 1600Mhz was already set in the kernel.
I just unlocked the 1400 settings.
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i dont understand the issue here..
its the fastest machine on the market.
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i dont understand the issue here..
its the fastest machine on the market.
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I don't think its an issue really just explaining that all samsumg mobile quad core devices(note 10.1, note 2, SGS3) are using the same cpu and could all be potentially clocked to 1.6GHz
Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc
I'm pretty sure only the international sgs3 has a quad core... but I may be wrong on that.
As far as cpu performance goes, I prefer the tegra processors over the snapdragons. LG optimus hd has one of these in a quad core version available oversees.
This isnt about opinions though, trust the benchmark results.
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Well it really depends on what you feel. Benchmarks are pointless. only real world use matters. I would give up the quad core for the 2gb of ram the US Moslem comes with but for gaming the spores line is your best bet as those are gaming devices
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Eh same could've been said about dual core when it first popped up for us. Its more about taking advantage of the cores that's the situation. Later versions of android are surely to take full capacity of the cores as more and more phones adopt. As for the phone, the gs3 is perfect for gaming, media, browsing ect. Although its plastic, the way its shipped makes it comfortable to hold in the hand
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The best overall performance for a phone has to be the Galaxy S3. It comes with a Snapdragon S4, which is an entirely NEW architecture. That means snapdragon is half a generation ahead of the tegra 3 and exynos 4 in terms of cpu design. The only drawback of the S4 is its gpu, as it only has an adreno 225, which is a slight upgrade from it's old gpu. Otherwise the Galaxy S3 is still a powerhouse.
As for gaming, the Tegra 3 has a slight edge due to NVIDIA forming partnerships with game developers and they optimize some games to run well on the tegra 3.
http://androidandme.com/2012/05/sma...erformance-gpu-battery-life-and-web-browsing/
Overall, real-performance is the almost the same for both phones, One X and GSIII, but with a slight edge to the GSIII for its superior S4.
i think sgs3 dual core version with 2gb ram wont be released in europe i only saw in italy is quadcore with 1gb ram T_T but ithink 1g ram is still good coz my father has sgs2 ^^
so if we will base on experience sgs3 is still the best ill gonna save a bit more for that phone XD
Anything Krait is good, the S4 is a very capable chip. The quad pro version will be a beast.
Exynos is fast as well, Nvidia is better for gaming. But it also depends on how well the manufacturers optimise their software to run on the hardware.
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Xperia TX. Go for it. No TouchWiz, better camera and design. Jelly Bean almost after launch.
it is very important to know if it is quad or dual cored. If it is quad then it will run faster because there is less stress on the cpu, then if it was dual. but, honestly, i ahve been using my droid incredible for a very long time. This is a 1 GHZ single core cpu and i use it heavily. i play n64 games on it without over clocking (the max cpu is like 1134 mhz, but i set it to about 600mhz and i can play with absolutely no lag.) so, what i am saying is that it doesn't matter if it is dual or quad cored because it is fast enough already. but, i know the international version, or at least the one i saw in india when i went there for vacation is quad. i think the USA version is quad as well. and btw, i have played with it. it's a great phone. the display is beautiful. the battery life is amazing. flash a kernel on it and i think you can run for 2-3 days with light/medium use in a single charge. go get that phone!
International galaxy s3 is quad core with 1gb a ram and is 1.4ghz which can be over clocked to 1.7ghz. I have an international galaxy s3 as I am from UK.
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quad core might not be fully usable at the moment but it will get better.
the main thing is the i9300 (international version) will have far more vast support then any carrier specific models us versions.
Benchamrk results are not that important
Get the S3 because its good for gaming with bigger screen and nice comfy shape :good:
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Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc
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I am also looking at getting a new phone. I am leaning towards a quadcore because I tend to have phones for a while. (Still rocking my captivate...) I figure that even though applications are not optimized for the quadcore yet, they will be in the future, which means I can make use of the phone for longer without feeling the need that I "have" to upgrade.