Hard Bricked VZW GS3 oops - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I Think I mighta screwed up bad. Long story short I flashed an interanational rom overtop of a jelly bean rom and my phone wont turn on now. PERIOD. Odin wont even pick it up. Any advice???
I Just found out if I hold volume down and connect it to my computer the led lights up red. Gotta be something I can do

Send it in to be jtagged. Don't think there's anything else to be done.

tekhna said:
Send it in to be jtagged. Don't think there's anything else to be done.
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Hmm not really the answer i was looking for but It is what it is. CAn you elaborate about jtagged? I got a replacement phone and have to send this one back to verizon....
Thanks for any help I can get

1annbe said:
Hmm not really the answer i was looking for but It is what it is. CAn you elaborate about jtagged? I got a replacement phone and have to send this one back to verizon....
Thanks for any help I can get
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And people like you are the reason the bootloader was locked.

I don't understand how this is even possible. Why would you think it was okay to Install a ROM over top carrier specific phone.
At the very least you could have asked to someone on the forum or created a thread if it could be done before you flashed it
Sent from my Paranoid Jelly S3

I didn't ask if I messed up. I know I messed up.
I Did my research. I used Odin successfuley to root my phone, flash clockwork and install a10 or so cwm 9 and cwm 10 roms. I screwed my imei up and fixed it myself thru qspt. All I asked for was a simple answer to a simple question.
Thank yo u

I think your missing the point the fact that YOU fubared your phone and then got a replacement tells us all we need to know. End of story lock the thread down.

*exit guys riding high horse*
Hmph!
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blestsol said:
*exit guys riding high horse*
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Alright maybe you would like to supply him with your S3 seeming as you think its ok for someone else to fix his s^%$.

Did research. Flashed international ROM on Verizon S3 (over another one). Doesn't know what JTAG is.
Does not compute.

usb dongle off ebay
1annbe said:
Hmm not really the answer i was looking for but It is what it is. CAn you elaborate about jtagged? I got a replacement phone and have to send this one back to verizon....
Thanks for any help I can get
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if its anything like the epic, just get a usb dongle that will force it into download mode. Also take the battery out for 30 min. I'm proud to have an answer and not just a comment.

promega said:
if its anything like the epic, just get a usb dongle that will force it into download mode. Also take the battery out for 30 min. I'm proud to have an answer and not just a comment.
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It's not an answer. I'll give you an answer, OP: You flashed the wrong ROM. You are now bricked. If you want to be unbricked, send it to a JTAG service http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/
Next time do a little more research. Clearly you missed step 1 which is NEVER FLASH A ROM THAT ISN'T MEANT FOR YOUR PHONE.

You know you guys could just be helpful instead of being very rude.

na do it yourself.
mustbepbs said:
It's not an answer. I'll give you an answer, OP: You flashed the wrong ROM. You are now bricked. If you want to be unbricked, send it to a JTAG service http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/
Next time do a little more research. Clearly you missed step 1 which is NEVER FLASH A ROM THAT ISN'T MEANT FOR YOUR PHONE.
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As a tester of many products in my time, I can tell you this. Nothing is ever bricked, where there is a brick there is a way. And his way is usb dongle.
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You know you guys could just be helpful instead of being very rude.
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I doubt he even knows what I am talking about, what do you think they are doing when you send it in??? jesus.
And if you are hardcore, you can make the dongle yourself.... or buy one on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Jig-Don...541525?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a75ec92d5 Check out my join date, been in the game for awhile...

promega said:
As a tester of many products in my time, I can tell you this. Nothing is ever bricked, where there is a brick there is a way. And his way is usb dongle.[/url]
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His way isn't a USB dongle. We see this at least 5 times a week in every section for this phone. People flash the wrong ROM (usually international) and they get no life out of it. The only way people have gotten it back was having it JTAGGED.

promega said:
As a tester of many products in my time, I can tell you this. Nothing is ever bricked, where there is a brick there is a way. And his way is usb dongle.
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I doubt he even knows what I am talking about, what do you think they are doing when you send it in??? jesus.
And if you are hardcore, you can make the dongle yourself.... or buy one on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Jig-Don...541525?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a75ec92d5
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Hmm i didnt know about those, pretty new to android though. Are those easy to use if i get one?

yes.
fr8cture said:
Hmm i didnt know about those, pretty new to android though. Are those easy to use if i get one?
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Instructions:
1. Turn off your phone and pull out the battery for about 10-15 seconds.
2. Just put the battery back and don’t turn it on.
3. Plug the USB Jig into the micro USB port on the phone.
4. After about 2-3 seconds, you can see the yellow download mode logo on the screen.
5. Unplug the USB Jig.
6. Connect your phone with USB cable to computer and then flash your phone via the program “odin”.
I'd try taking your battery out, holding the power button for a few seconds. Then leaving the battery out for 30 min first, before buying one.. I doubt it will work, but I have came out of bricks that way (blew my mind). Still prolly should do that when using the dongle.. MOST EVERY THING can have a dongle put into it, it's what the developers use to foce hardware into manufacturing mode, developer mode, customer mode, clear mem, maint. mode.
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mustbepbs said:
His way isn't a USB dongle. We see this at least 5 times a week in every section for this phone. People flash the wrong ROM (usually international) and they get no life out of it. The only way people have gotten it back was having it JTAGGED.
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you got a link of a usb dongle bring back failure? please provide it so we can move on, or just stop.

promega said:
you got a link of a usb dongle bring back failure? please provide it so we can move on, or just stop.
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Here you go, a USB jig "bring back failure"...

grin0048 said:
Here you go, a USB jig "bring back failure"...
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from what i can see they still needed to use it...

1annbe said:
Hmm not really the answer i was looking for but It is what it is. CAn you elaborate about jtagged? I got a replacement phone and have to send this one back to verizon....
Thanks for any help I can get
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So you're looking for help to restore your phone because you think they will find out you were flashing?
You already have the replacement. Just send the phone in. I doubt they will ever check.

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Can a USB jig be used to force download mode or do i need a JTAG?

Hi all.
First of all, already tried searching both google and xda and I get contradicting results that's why am posting it here.
I currently owned a dead/bricked skyrocket after a failed odin update. Can a USB jig be used to force download mode or do i need a JTAG?
Thanks everyone.
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jose makalolot said:
Hi all.
First of all, already tried searching both google and xda and I get contradicting results that's why am posting it here.
I currently owned a dead/bricked skyrocket after a failed odin update. Can a USB jig be used to force download mode or do i need a JTAG?
Thanks everyone.
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Kinda depends .. do you get any sort of responce from the phone at all .. vibration with no screen .. or nothing at all ?
If you have vibration without screen .. YES ..USB JIG will work.
If you have nothing at all .. NO .. will have to go with JTAG.
LordGeek said:
Kinda depends .. do you get any sort of responce from the phone at all .. vibration with no screen .. or nothing at all ?
If you have vibration without screen .. YES ..USB JIG will work.
If you have nothing at all .. NO .. will have to go with JTAG.
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Thanks sir. Nope, i don't have anything at all. So, jtag is the way to go. By the way, what's the percentage of chances that it can be revived by jtag?
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jose makalolot said:
Thanks sir. Nope, i don't have anything at all. So, jtag is the way to go. By the way, what's the percentage of chances that it can be revived by jtag?
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In my opinion, you should have a usb jig if you are going to flash roms. Get one and give it a try. Won't hurt.
From what I read, as long a you get someone that knows what they are doing, using a jtag should be almost a sure thing.
If you're getting no vibration or anything then a jtag is your only solution. A jig is not likely to do anything (though it's worth a try--and you should try making your own--it's really easy to do and they come in really handy anyways).
Assuming your phone isn't water damaged or was dropped hard (meaning it could be a deep hardware issue), then it's damn near certain that a jtag will fix it.
These guys can help you out: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-brick-repair/
Check em out. If they can't fix it you won't get charged full price (take a look at their terms--there is a fee to diagnose it if they're unable to fix it but you wouldn't be paying full price if it didn't work out).

Dead Infuse - Please help

Dear community members, my Infuse is dead I don't know why. It was charging over night and I just want to check the time when I noticed it was unresponsive. I though "I'ts just a SOD" but when I pulled out the battery an pressed the power button nothing happened, three finger trick and nothing...black screen no any light whatsoever even when I connect to my PC it is not recognized. Any Ideas?
I have Dman's Zeus 6 whit Script V6 SuperCharger.
I live in El Salvador and here is no any technical support...PLEASE HELP!!!!
I think it's just passed out :'( and if you think so also, I want to know if any of you have an Infuse for sale. I really love this phone because its big screen and wonderful performance.
Check the battery........if u have multi meter u can check it with that or the best way to check ur battery, Touch the battery pins with ur tongue and see if u feel anything.
rkkaranrk said:
Check the battery........if u have multi meter u can check it with that or the best way to check ur battery, Touch the battery pins with ur tongue and see if u feel anything.
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That will short circuit the battery and then it WON'T work. Also 4v isn't enough to go across your tongue and feel it.
What will short short circuit ?
Just remove the battery and touch it with ur tongue u can feel the current mate.....don't jump on conclusion without trying it.
Thank you guys! I have tested the battery and is full charged (4.14V). Any other ideas?
I really appreciate your help and concern.
Guys I just opened the cellphone and the mainboard is fried
So now I'm lookin for buy the phone or just the mainboard.
Let me know if you have one for sale.
Best regards.
Prompter said:
Guys I just opened the cellphone and the mainboard is fried
So now I'm lookin for buy the phone or just the mainboard.
Let me know if you have one for sale.
Best regards.
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dam
ouch sorry to hear that. were you OverClocking?
Nope, I think it was an high voltage peak during the night. Thank you for your concern.
Ouch.......
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Dear Infuse freaks!!!
My beloved wife, trying to avoid the pain of see me in such big suffering, has bought me another Infuse! (used of course), is in its way from Austin, TX to El Salvador. I think it will be here in about 10 days.
Thank you for your help, I cannot express how much appreciated is your guidance and expertice, specially here where I can't find an reliable tech support.
Blessings for everyone.
That is a wife....awesome
bigjoe2675 said:
That is a wife....awesome
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Thanks BigJoe! I'm a lucky man she is wonderful.
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Thanks BigJoe! I'm a lucky man she is wonderful.
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glade you will be back with us in the infuse comunity soon...
blessings to your wife and you.
My phone died..
I was trying to upload my bootloaders to GB bootloaders using heimdall, and now my phone doesnt turn on.. no samsung logo too...
my battery is fine.. i tried the tongue technique..
I cannot use ODIN, as I cant go into download mode, or my pc doesnt detect it..
any idea what to do..
TIA
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I was trying to upload my bootloaders to GB bootloaders using heimdall, and now my phone doesnt turn on.. no samsung logo too...my battery is fine.. i tried the tongue technique..
I cannot use ODIN, as I cant go into download mode, or my pc doesnt detect it..any idea what to do..TIA
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Did this get resolved for you...
bigjoe2675 said:
Did this get resolved for you...
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No... I gave it to BestBuy.. I will get a new phone in 3 days.. I have to install GB boot loaders first..
I want to install AOKP, without GB boot loaders i am getting rainbows.. So i want GB boot loaders first..
Heimdall technique failed for me..
I dont know what i have done, mistake..
I have done this but without install GB boot loaders...if you carefully see you can read and make almost everything with the rainbows CWM screen...I did it, tested it and then back to Zeus 6 which I think is the perfect ROM for my needs.
I'm too noob to messing around with boot loaders...LOL
I hope you get your phone back soon.
droid73 said:
glade you will be back with us in the infuse comunity soon...
blessings to your wife and you.
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Thanks droid! by the way I'm a big fan of your work.
I have tested almost every ROM posted here. ...I know I have a ROM Flashing Disorder (RFD)!!!

[Q] Heeeeelp broken power button

My power button was broken and i ordered a new one.
I soldered it on and it worked but then it whent crazy the screen flickered on and off.
I had that for the replacement to.
So i tried to remove the button again and than it happened
The flat cable where you solder on the button broke off
Does anyone pleace no how to boot up the phone without the powerbutton
I ordered a new board but that could take up to 3 weeks
I want my phone back
Thanks for the help
In the play store is a app that replaces the buttons, not sure about the actual power button its self. If you can find a way to boot up, check it out. Also look around in play store
Not sure but you can possiably re assign the buttons
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realsis said:
In the play store is a app that replaces the buttons, not sure about the actual power button its self. If you can find a way to boot up, check it out. Also look around in play store
Not sure but you can possiably re assign the buttons
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Yes i did that before the replacement button arrived and it worked well actually i didn't need the powerbutton any more but i want it to be fixed.
I just need to get it booting for one time.
Thanks for the thinking do
i wonder, does the sensation boot up if you connect it to AC adapter? to PC using USB cable? did you try that?
also, i once seen this on YouTube, never thought it would be useful, but who knows...
arabology said:
i wonder, does the sensation boot up if you connect it to AC adapter? to PC using USB cable? did you try that?
also, i once seen this on YouTube, never thought it would be useful, but who knows...
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Yes tried all that to. Used that methode with my own diamond
Pff IT looks like i'm going to miss my phone for Lang time.
If any one now's where the flat cable leads to I can make it boot by using these points.
Thank Guy's
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try this method
although, i have no idea "what black tape" he was talking about...
OR. through ADB, using this method
Thanks I found it to.
I searched a lot to before I posted
The black tape is over the button I think.
But that one is gone.
I tried scraping off the little peace of flat cable that is left off to get to the wires but thy are so small that when u touch them they brake.
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jacobstim78 said:
Thanks I found it to.
I searched a lot to before I posted
The black tape is over the button I think.
But that one is gone.
I tried scraping off the little peace of flat cable that is left off to get to the wires but thy are so small that when u touch them they brake.
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wow man, you have a strong heart...i wouldn't dare do that with my phone
hmm...i found two places on the back of my phone with "black tape"...but i didn't take them off as i don't need to
try the ADB method...i hope you're already with debugging enabled.
also, make another check on that black tape thingy...i'm sure it's there somewhere...the right place i mean.
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btw, if you hopefully end up turning your phone on, i'd suggest you flash OrDroid as the Bricked kernel it uses has a "sweep to wake" functionality
click me!
oh, lol, you're already an OrDroid buddy
arabology said:
wow man, you have a strong heart...i wouldn't dare do that with my phone
hmm...i found two places on the back of my phone with "black tape"...but i didn't take them off as i don't need to
try the ADB method...i hope you're already with debugging enabled.
also, make another check on that black tape thingy...i'm sure it's there somewhere...the right place i mean.
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btw, if you hopefully end up turning your phone on, i'd suggest you flash OrDroid as the Bricked kernel it uses has a "sweep to wake" functionality
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Yep and it is a good one
Trying the adb now. Didn't use it before so it is a search.
MAN IF BEIRUT WAS NOT SO FAR I RAN OVER AND GIVE YOU A KISS
THe adb methode worked
jacobstim78 said:
Yep and it is a good one
Trying the adb now. Didn't use it before so it is a search.
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here you go: A guide to ADB
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Yep and it is a good one
Trying the adb now. Didn't use it before so it is a search.
MAN IF BEIRUT WAS NOT SO FAR I RAN OVER AND GIVE YOU A KISS
THe adb methode worked
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haha! good to hear that man!

Help NS wont boot/ no charging icon/ no google icon

so my nexus is stock, but unlocked.
i cherged my nexus today an i read on a thread that to calibrate the battery it should be plugged at 100% and then u should turn it off then on and while it boots u should take out the battery. i did it. and now it doesnt boot, not even in fastboot.
some help?
Who said to pull out the battery while booting? It's a dangerous action you may brick your phone. Add I know a lot Chinese users of Nexus S had done this accidentally. Like rebooting without the battery cover when the battery fell off.
And unfortunately I didn't see anyone made their phone back, yet.
Anyway you can search for some threads for saving bricked phone.
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vikingsail said:
Who said to pull out the battery while booting? It's a dangerous action you may brick your phone. Add I know a lot Chinese users of Nexus S had done this accidentally. Like rebooting without the battery cover when the battery fell off.
And unfortunately I didn't see anyone made their phone back, yet.
Anyway you can search for some threads for saving bricked phone.
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So... my phone is bricked.
well, no smartphone until christmas!!!! yeah! (being ironic)
Cascabreu said:
So... my phone is bricked.
well, no smartphone until christmas!!!! yeah! (being ironic)
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Not exactly you can saved it. I find a thread on Chinese forum says use Ubuntu to unbrick a bricked ns. I think the thread actually comes from xda. Try to search here you can find it. Sorry I'm on my phone now can't do a search. All the best.
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Not exactly you can saved it. I find a thread on Chinese forum says use Ubuntu to unbrick a bricked ns. I think the thread actually comes from xda. Try to search here you can find it. Sorry I'm on my phone now can't do a search. All the best.
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i know about that, its called adam tool. but that tool is useless if your screen doesnt even light up. i tried the tool and it didnt worked
thanks anyway
you cannot fix a dead boot with any software/USB connection to a PC. A bricked/Dead boot can only be fixed by having a certain hardware called JTAG/RIFF. Check this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iejfuW7XcKA
its a bit high in price between 100-150$, usually repair centers have it and charge 50$ for a fix. I suggest taking your nexus to a repair center and specifically tell them that you have a "DEAD BOOT AND NEED IT FIXED BY JTAG/RIFF"
ismailham said:
you cannot fix a dead boot with any software/USB connection to a PC. A bricked/Dead boot can only be fixed by having a certain hardware called JTAG/RIFF. Check this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iejfuW7XcKA
its a bit high in price between 100-150$, usually repair centers have it and charge 50$ for a fix. I suggest taking your nexus to a repair center and specifically tell them that you have a "DEAD BOOT AND NEED IT FIXED BY JTAG/RIFF"
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i already understand that XD i im back from vacacion i will go to the store with my warranty and maybe i dont pay anything for thr fix
I had my phone fixed for free!!!!!!! Thanks anyway!!!
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Do share
Cascabreu said:
I had my phone fixed for free!!!!!!! Thanks anyway!!!
sent from my Nyan NeXus S
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Can you please tell me how? I was booting mine and bettery fell out...now it cant even be recognized with USB connected...help!!!
kali4nian said:
Can you please tell me how? I was booting mine and bettery fell out...now it cant even be recognized with USB connected...help!!!
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i used my warranty in a local store XD
i went there and said that i turned off the phone over night and in the morning he didnt wanted to turn on. they said it was a normal issue. LMAO

The weirdest problem.

hi guys,
i seriously think i have the weirdest problem on my nexus 5, i looked for ages for someone with that problem. and didnt find.
ever since i've replaced my screen and my battery (pretty sure it's an original one) every now and than my phone just turns off.
the weird part is, it won't turn on until i plug my phone to the charger.
i can plug it even to one second, and than i can turn my phone back on.
and it won't turn on in any other way!
I have this problem for a long time so i gathered some facts:
* it can happen regardless of how much battery i have. it can happen in 90% and it can happen in 10.% but i did found out it is more likely to happen the less battery i have.
* it happens more when i use stock apps: google search, google maps, camera...
* it happens almost always when i take a picture with the camera , especially if i use flash
* it is more likely to happen if the device is wormer (after a long heavy use...)
* it is also likely to happen if i press the "back" button a lot of times rapidly to go back to home screen
Ask lg
Have you isolated the reverse power flux coupling?
This is not weird. Obviously something went wrong when you replaced battery and or screen.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Have you isolated the reverse power flux coupling?
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have i what?...
ldubs said:
This is not weird. Obviously something went wrong when you replaced battery and or screen.
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yes, but what exactly went wrong?!
Um how would we know. Take to lg or repair shop..
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ldubs said:
Um how would we know. Take to lg or repair shop..
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i don't have money for a repair shop... it will probably cost me like a new phone
i wanna figure out the problem myself and try fixing it alone (by buying parts in ebay...)
and i still think the problem might be softwary
omer323 said:
i don't have money for a repair shop... it will probably cost me like a new phone
i wanna figure out the problem myself and try fixing it alone (by buying parts in ebay...)
and i still think the problem might be softwary
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That's fine, except no one here is going to be able to tell what you did or didn't do when you opened up the device and replaced the battery and screen. There's some very sensitive circuitry in there. Could be anything. Most likely NOT software-related or other folks would be having these same issues. and they're not.
omer323 said:
i don't have money for a repair shop... it will probably cost me like a new phone
i wanna figure out the problem myself and try fixing it alone (by buying parts in ebay...)
and i still think the problem might be softwary
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Get a free quote from the repair shop they'll find the problem then leave and buy the defective parts on ebay
You're describing basically the same issues I used to have with my old Samsung galaxy s4 when the battery got bloated. 3 times.. 100% bad battery.
I mean, c'mon dude really? you replaced the battery AND the screen and you still think you're having software issues?.. just replace the battery for one you're more than "pretty sure" is an original one..
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Have you isolated the reverse power flux coupling?
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-Thank you….. Thank you very much…
-You’re quite welcome, sir!
omricn said:
You're describing basically the same issues I used to have with my old Samsung galaxy s4 when the battery got bloated. 3 times.. 100% bad battery.
I mean, c'mon dude really? you replaced the battery AND the screen and you still think you're having software issues?.. just replace the battery for one you're more than "pretty sure" is an original one..
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-You’re quite welcome, sir!
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I was hoping somebody would catch the reference

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