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I love the Droid Charge's hardware, I really do. Those first-gen Galaxy S PenTile AMOLED displays drove me nuts, LTE is the effing truth, and thankfully, the Wolfson DAC is just as killer as it was last time around -- I came from a Vibrant on T-Mobile.
As you can probably imagine, I'm loathe to give up LTE. And I've got incredible respect for the work that imnuts, imoseyon, the GummyCharged bros, and all the other developers here and at RW are putting into this phone to make it usable -- seriously, you guys are awesome. But the day-to-day with this phone is just wearing on me hard, and I really miss the serene world of stable CyanogenMod. These days, my battery will randomly choose days to die before I'm even home from work, the GPS chip doesn't seem any better than the Vibrant's was, the phone is noticeably less responsive than a CM7 device with similar internals, I still occaisionally get launcher redraws, and though it's improved considerably with EP3HA I still sometimes get data dropouts.
I know it's the same **** you guys all complain about, I guess I just wonder if anyone else has literally gotten so frustrated with it that they gave up the sweet nectar of LTE to get the hell away from this disaster of a software implementation. I joined the Galaxy S party late in the Vibrant's lifespan so I had a really positive experience thanks to all the great development people had done for it. I didn't really get the full flavor of "Samsung Disease" until this phone, and for chrissake, I can see why people were running the hate parade.
Has anyone else here gone back (or thought about going back) to an Ev-DO phone just for a better software experience? We can pretty much guarantee that the resale value of this phone is going to completely tank after the G-Nexus launches so I'm thinking it makes sense to get some cash out of it now. I literally won a clean ESN Fascinate auction on eBay last night for $81, so I'm psyched about that.
Incidentally I'll probably just buy another Charge for 81 dollars at this time next year after it's rocking official CM7. Then again, maybe the Galaxy Nexus will be cheap by then.
Thoughts?
Here's my thought: The grass is always greener. This is the Groundhog Day of phone forums.
If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
Cm7 is far from stable my friend. Try getting a nightly that doesn't play well with your kernal. Once you've bricked from this you will understand. In a year this will all be different. Phones are being released to developers first now to tweak them for the hard release. Think of it this way... The linux command for superuser, or "su" does not hurt the machine, but opens up commands to fine tune to the user's preferences. If we are given the base framework to recover to, there is no harm in supercharging the system, just so long as we can "reset" it in case of a system failure or resource exhaustion. Just wait until google buys MORE into samsung's development.
Speed rules...
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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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No kidding.. my thoughts exactly. This phone is without a doubt superior to the fascinate... then again, to each his own.
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As much as I love my rock solid stable fascinate tsm poolparty 1.5 with glitch v13 rc, Im moving on to the charge bought off funzy32. Why? because I got it for $185. I dont plan on having issues with the charge, because ive never had problems with any android device in three years which seems un-realistic, but Im sticking with my good luck reasoning. The charge in terms of development is still in its infancy. Hell, my first verizon device was an htc incredible and over a year later it is still being improved. I have absolute faith that the charge will be continually developed on. The fact is that it is not a low end device or a middle of the road device either. As many problems as the failure device known as the fascinate has. It currently has an Ics sdk port that from my understanding is pretty insane in its infancy. If the fascinate can make it, the charge will be doing the same.
I'd go back in a second! Sadly I had to send in my fassy to get this garbage.
I was thinking the same thing a couple days ago. I miss my fassy a lot, but it had its issues like calls never coming in or texts not going out. 4g is unbelievably fast...didn't expect it to be this fast, it trumps home internet like many have said.
The fassy was the better phone overall though no doubt. I regret getting the charge as a replacement. I don't have any issues with it but it just doesn't feel right.
You guys are quite the whiney lot.
OP, why don't you post what setup you were running so that maybe we could help diagnose your issues.
Obviously battery life on the Fascinate is going to be much better than on the Charge, with its larger screen and battery sucking LTE.
I've found the battery life to be tolerable on the Charge as long as I'm not doing anything ridiculous like streaming audio/video for long periods of time. I live outside of LTE service location so I have my phone set to CDMA only. As of right now, after a typical day of use (probably 30 texts, 30 minutes of Pandora streaming, 20 minutes of phone calls, and probably 3 solid hours of screen-on time while browsing) my battery has 40% charge after 7 hours and 20 minutes unplugged.
If your conscious about how you are using the battery it is pretty manageable. Turn off LTE when you don't need it. Turn off mobile data when you aren't using it. Switch onto a wifi signal when one is available. Turn off GPS when you're not using it. This is pretty common sense stuff.
As far as screen redraws, use V6 Supercharger. I used to be annoyed to no end because of redraws. Since loading the script, I've had maybe 4 redraws in about a month. I don't even notice it anymore.
Also, if you miss TSM, the latest GummyCharged has it. Just have to go over to Rootzwiki to get it, they don't care for xda anymore.
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You guys are quite the whiney lot.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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kvswim said:
This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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Agreed. I really don't even understand the gripes. I guess its just me, but I believe this is hands down the best smartphone I've ever owned. Sure, I miss CM7 a bit which I too had on my fassy, but as I've heard mentioned before, what can the fassy do that the Charge cannot? Unless I'm being an absolute phone hog, I can easily go 12 hours a day without turning ANYTHING off. I don't get screen redraws, static phone calls, data drop offs, or any of the other complaints. I occasionally have some minor Rom nuances but you get that with just about any Rom and Android phone. I'm seriously loving my Droid Charge experience! I don't get the whining or the constant threads on this topic. If you don't like it, you don't need our approval to move on. Just get rid of the phone and move on already!
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I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
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This. I'm tired of people bashing this phone. Sure, it has some issues, but if you're that fed up with is just get rid of the phone. No sense in continuously *****ing about it.
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Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
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If you want to go back to a 3G phone, how about you set your Charge to 3G only? That way it behaves the same as a Fascinate.
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Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.
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I thought I was pretty clear in my OP, but maybe not. I miss CyanogenMod. That is the main thing that I miss. The Charge doesn't have it. I guess I also miss having a small device, but that's not a fair complaint right now -- LTE radios are chunky, and I recognize that.
The battery life has been a really big sore spot for me, too. I've tried setting the phone to CDMA/Ev-DO only (completely ignoring the ridiculousness of carrying a larger, more expensive device and toggling off its best feature) to get a feel for what I'd be getting into speedwise if I switched to a Fascinate. I rarely use GPS, and leave it turned off.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on the battery; on Wednesday I ran it CDMA-only and barely used the device at all outside of an hour or so of PowerAmp playback and a handful of Google searches and GV messages. I took it off the charger with 100% juice at 7:15 AM, and it was dead by 6:30 PM. The maddening part is that it's crazy inconsistent: there are days where it makes it through the whole day with 30% or so left,even though I've had LTE turned on all day and have been using the phone fairly extensively. I definitely don't think it's a hardware problem -- Engadget swears they got two days in their review of this thing. The best guess I've been able to piece together is that the battery loss has something to do with with the phone's poor tower handoffs, because I've noticed a pattern of having a dead Charge on days where I move from place to place a lot. Days where my only destinations are home and work don't seem to exhibit the issue as much.
I suppose I'm past the point of being interested in solving it, and the device's limited community uptake (relative to something like the Nexus phones, or several of the more popular HTCs) doesn't help. That's the hugely exciting thing about the Galaxy Nexus -- we at least know it'll be crazy popular here, at Rootzwiki, and everywhere else. I just hope it's got a decent DAC and headphone amp, because otherwise the Fascinate and the Charge are still going to be my future.
Someone asked me to post my setup, so I guess I'll repeat myself. I'm running EP3HA debloated. I've tried it with the stock kernel and with imoseyon's kernel -- didn't notice major differences either way. Compared to its predecessors, EP3HA has been an incredible improvement -- I ran the gamut and tried everything before, but I probably spent the most time with assorted builds of GummyCharged FE. I switched to EP3HA once I saw that imoseyon got Voodoo Sound working on his kernel, and I definitely believe that's currently the best way to use the Charge. I get fewer launcher redraws, and data drops less -- but make no mistake, there are still redraws and drops. I do firmly believe that this phone is headed toward greatness; in a year or so it's going to be a really amazing choice if it keeps improving at this rate. So, I'm coming back in a year. I've just grown weary of living with a problematic phone when Android itself has been done so much more gracefully on other devices -- how can any Charge owner deny that? Even if you love the device's hardware (as I do), have somehow had no issues (lol), and intend to keep it... the ability to run AOSP ROMs and to consistently get through the day on a single charge are irrefutably pretty big advantages.
One of my pals got a Droid Charge the same day as me, and has been experiencing all these same issues. In fact, our decisions to switch -- me to the Fascinate and him to the DInc -- were born out of frequent griping to each other about how poor the day-to-day with the Charge has been. Of course we hate losing LTE, it's obnoxious. The biggest reason we're paying Verizon's hilariously awful prices was to get access to LTE 700, and hopefully we'll get to come back to it soon. It's kind of a bummer because this has been his first Android device (he came from an iPhone 3GS). I told him the day we got our phones that I really wished Verizon had a solid LTE device with mature CyanogenMod support, because Samsung puts out a really embarassing version of Android and it's a super ****ty first impression to show him of the platform I've grown to love. "But," we said, "having LTE should make up for it."
It almost does. Almost.
Do you work for Samsung? Why on earth could you possibly be bothered by people objectively stating their complaints about a half-baked product? I signed a two-year contract for an overpriced unfinished smartphone too, dude. I'm in the same boat as you.
Look how bad your post is. This is a bad, bad post.
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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.
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... and people wonder why the Gummy team left XDA.
If you wanted a phone that ran CM7, why'd you buy a phone that didn't have it? You should be well aware of how development works, there are no guarantees. I just think it's hilarious that you're going to pay your own hard earned money to downgrade your phone just because your particular favorite toy isn't on there.
I mean sucks that you're having some relatively minor problems with your Charge, but the Fascinate was no angel either. Have fun with your dropped / missed calls, front buttons that push themselves and total garbage GPS lock times.
To be honest, it sounds like you know the game here, so I assume you did your homework before your bought it, so really, you have no one but yourself to blame.
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
@jhonas, The phone is fairly new and the bugs will be worked out, I have complete faith in our developers.
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The Gummy Team left XDA from people like you just constantly whining about EVERYTHING. I don't have any problems with this phone beyond the battery life. That's it.
It's not like some of us defend our phones just for the hell of it...it's because we know this can be potentially a great phone. Things can take time. Look at how the FASSY (you mad?) was at the very beginning - everyone hated it. Now that it's a mature phone, it can be appreciated. Development for this device is in its infancy-unfortunately some people can't or won't see that and insist on bashing it.
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Jhonas said:
Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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First off, there are plenty of decaffeinated brands on the market that taste just as good as the real thing, think about it.
I don't believe fivecent was referring to usability as a toy. He was referring to CM7 as a toy. It didn't come pre-installed on the phone - it's an extra or a "toy." It is well known Samsung is notorious for great hardware and crappy software. If you and kalibar have been around on Android at all, you should have already known this. And if you didn't do enough research to find this out, shame on both of you. Albert Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In this case expecting Samsung to suddenly put out a phone with great software given their track record, I would call naive.
Apple isn't better at fixing things because they care more, it's because they only have on phone to work on. All other phone manufacturers prefer to offer customers options and choices. Apple tells it's sheeple (customers) this is what we make, you will buy it and like it.
The Charge was only the third LTE phone on Verizon. Like davwaman said, there are still bugs and they will be worked out. Verizon and all phone manufacturers are encountering occasional problems related to 4G LTE. No 4G LTE phone has a functional CM7 because of the 4G radios/RIL.
And TeamGummy and several other developers didn't leave XDA for either your reason or the other reason stated. It's not my place to say why they left. You can ask them yourself, which you obviously haven't done based on your post.
And finally, you've been a member here since 2007 and this rant is your first post? Really? Not one productive or helpful post before now?
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Since when was usability a toy? Maybe it's his fault for buying a phone that doesn't have CM7, but it's not his fault the phone's stock firmware is garbage. Why are you all apologists for this device? Is it because you bought it? Do you guys go around, telling people how your phone is the best phone no matter what, all because you paid money for it and to do otherwise would make you feel stupid?
Just be honest. The phone kinda sucks. It'd be one thing if the battery life was just bad, but the fact that it varies from day to day is like having a car that gets 25mpg on some days and 12mpg on others. It's one thing to tolerate mediocrity, but to defend it is absolutely despicable. You all should be ashamed.
Multiple times, across multiple firmwares (humble, gummy, fe and gbe, infinity beta w/ ep3ha) I've had the phone lag at inappropriate times that resulted in committing an action that I absolutely did not want.
For example, and I think this was on Gummy 2.0 GBE (laughably bad compared to even the release candidates that came before it), one time I pressed the power button to wake the phone, and it didn't wake (I have a case that makes it so you have to push a little harder), so I pressed it again and it did. I then slid to unlock, but instead of that happening, the phone shut off. It was so laggy that it actually did detect the first power button press, and the second one I held slightly too long (which brings up the reboot/poweroff/silent/etc dialog) and when I thought I was sliding to unlock, the phone registered it as pressing the power off option on the popup dialog that hadn't yet appeared when I was trying to unlock the phone. Phone powers off. I tried to unlock my phone and instead got a powered off device.
That's ****ing unacceptable. It's 2011, we should have devices that are responsive and stable. But instead, we get a holocaust. This isn't my fault. This isn't kalibar's fault. It's Samsung's fault. We thought we could count on them to make something with perhaps not the best experience, but a passable one at least. And we weren't just a little wrong, we were really wrong.
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
Anyone who claims to have no issues with this phone is either a liar, or a good majority of Droid Charges are lemons. Either does not bode well.
And stop called the Fascinate, "Fassy." It immediately reveals that you're a neckbeard virgin.
p.s. The Gummy team left XDA not because people complain about the shortcomings of devices but because people do things like irrationally defend utter crap and spout cringe-inducingly stupid nonsense.
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so much BUTTHURT lol
no but seriously I loved my FASSY and I love my Charge, sure they both have issues but are incredible phones none the less.. there are always problems and always will be as no phone is perfect, and this constant whining about how bad it is isn't helping anyone unless its an actual constructive question about how to fix something or why something's happening
Lufc or Scotsman where you at buddies, lock this thread up
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Jhonas said:
If you honestly believe this phone is good, you've never used an iPhone. I'm not trying to start an Android vs iOS argument, but when it comes to having a phone with reliable battery life and a consistently responsive user experience, the iPhone never fails. And although I've heard the 4S has ****ty battery life at the moment, there is no doubt in my mind that it will actually get fixed because Apple actually gives a ****. In a year when you can run AOSP ROMs on this phone, I would bet money that the official offering from Samsung remains an abortion.
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Chopping the rest because this is all I'm going to respond to. I came to this phone from an iPhone. You couldn't pay me to go back.
That is all.
I don't understand how this thread is still going on. We have a parade of "blame the OP" for daring to purchase the flagship Samsung Verizon phone and expecting it to actually work, then people pretending like a battery that goes 12 hours, barely, if you micro it, is perfectly acceptable, then we have people blaming other posters for not making enough nice posts before a rant?
Seriously, what the hell? The phone seems pretty crappy from all the reviews and I don't think that the OP was asking for people to leap in and white-knight it, I'm pretty sure he wanted opinions on things he would miss or whatever if he downgraded to a Fascinate.
(Honestly, "Fassy"? Makes you sound like you're 5.)
So after being active in the forums around when ICS was released then staying idle for a month or two, all I come back to is tons of threads with people asking how to downgrade. So my question is, does anyone actually enjoy this tablet? Does anyone open it up or power it on, on a daily basis and enjoy using it?
This is kind of a joke thread but sadly also kind of a serious thread. I personally love this tablet. I get one or two SOD's a day (On a bad day) but everything else is smooth and works well, especially for a year old tablet.
very happy. if xda didn't exist...i think i'd be all sorts of miserable...but since it does exist...found me a custom kernel (the "test" series by guevor) and done. most problems are gone.
i say most because the screen tearing happens every so often...but nothing i can't simply ignore.
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So after being active in the forums around when ICS was released then staying idle for a month or two, all I come back to is tons of threads with people asking how to downgrade. So my question is, does anyone actually enjoy this tablet? Does anyone open it up or power it on, on a daily basis and enjoy using it?
This is kind of a joke thread but sadly also kind of a serious thread. I personally love this tablet. I get one or two SOD's a day (On a bad day) but everything else is smooth and works well, especially for a year old tablet.
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Well, this is no joke. I have two 101s, B50 and B70, both 32g and both rooted after the .21 update. Very minor issues like apps need to be re-installed, but none of the major problems associated with custom kernels and roms. Excellent multimedia device, USB adapter connects to external storage including hds, wifi gps and bt are functioning better than the Prime, that's for sure. As compared to the TF300, the only difference is a faster SOC but then again there's no boatload of games that should have been released with the Prime so majority of the apps out there were designed for the Tegra 2.
I will be keeping my 101s for quite a while until the 700 and I expect a major leap in performance and looks, USB 3.0 for one and e-sata without the dock!
I'm happy for the most part. I use my TF101 for several hours each day, and don't have any of the major issues with ICS that some others do. It has never, ever randomly rebooted while I was using it, or locked up, etc. It would sometimes reboot itself during sleep, but this wasn't a major issue for me. It hasn't even done that since the latest update, but I turn it off more often now instead of putting it to sleep. I don't have the dock, so none of those issues apply to mine either.
I am happy with ICS. I was pretty disappointed with the release state of the transformer. MKV playback, battery/dock problems, Android HC software not that great, and all kinds of other little problems. However between ICS upgrade and Asus support, I'm 97% satisfied with my tablet, however HD video playback, web browsing, word processing, and a few other small things could use some work.
Sadly I can't/won't use custom roms as every one I've tried either has minor stability problems or app incompatibility problems. So rooted stock with a custom kernel for me it is.
I'll hold on to the tf101 until Asus releases something with a screen that can rival the Ipad 3. The prime and 700 aren't a large enough increase in specs to warrant an upgrade at full cost.
Ran stock for quite awhile and just downgraded today so that I could root, install CWM, and put on a ROM. Trying Android Revolution right now. I've been very impressed with this tablet. My friends who have iPads are always asking to play with my tablet.
-Daryel
I'm pretty happy- I've gotten a few reboots, but they are relatively infrequent. I am really not a power user, so my tablet isn't on for 8 hours a day.
What I have really enjoyed is the unlocked bootloader and the frequent updates that ASUS puts out- I've really learned a lot about modding and deodexing roms, and generally, how Android is put together. In that sense, it has been a fun device.
in the last month and a half Ive gone through 3 tablets
at first I went cheap with a viewsonic Gtablet that had a screen issue I fixed.
Loved all the ports & price. didnt like the screen.
then i came across a great deal on a galaxy tab 10.1. which I loved. Great screen, super light and an amazing speaker.
for the last week and a half Ive had my 32GB TF101 B70. and as of Friday sold the other tablets.
I got a good deal with keyboard dock and love it so far, though I wish the screen and speakers were as nice as the Samsung, especially the speakers. that little thing could fill a small room with sound.
I made the mistake of updating to the new fimrware on My B70 and ran into issues trying to downgrade but the previous firmware and current have been stable for me with heavy nightly use since I got it.
lots of streaming ect and splashtop HD is great with the touchpad & dock
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Just remembered, the only random issue I seem to have is once in a while it seems there is a diagonal split with the screen showing some other image. its not common and goes away in a second or 2 though
I have no real issues with the Transformer or ICS as a whole. Wiping my device before updating to ICS fixed my deep sleep issue & battery drain issue. However I have been experiencing some problems with Opera since the update.
Well I guess talking about it jinxed me. left the room to get a drink, came back and was on the asus booting screen with the circle of dots stuck. had to hold the power button to reboot. never happened before, hope it doesn't become a habit
I use mine all day everyday. Its replaced my laptop as far as Surfing and socializing..I dont have the errors tho.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has had a near perfect experience with this great device.
People asking how to downgrade is a little more noticeable that people doing nothing and sticking with ASUS stock ICS. For me ICS is clearly better than Honeycomb and the odd reboot issue doesn't change that. I use my Transformer daily but still use my Macbook,PC and phone daily too so nothing has really been replaced.
I posted a poll about people favourite Android version and ICS won easily.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601556
Supremely happy with my TF made my laptop nearly obsolete . Little to no issues occasional S.O.D.'s but its nothing to deter me from using it. These tabs are so versatile I watch movies, play games, hook it up to my TV, get on that fancy inter net thingy, oh and it destroys the battery life compared to my laptop by 1 day lol
I love all three of my tablets, they all run damn near perfect, all rooted running revolver ics.
Honestly,I have read most of the issue/complaint threads and to me it seems like most of these threads are the same people discussing the same issues... Making it appear as though more people are having issues... This is just my observations... I know several people with transformers... None of them have issues, however I personally rooted and flashed custom roms for about half of them... The rest know what they are doing.
I have had my hands hand on dozens of tfs all ran ics fine... Some had bad flashes that need to be redone... All in all it's hard for me to believe that so many are having so many issues. Like with most consumer products, the happy people tend to be less vocal while the unhappy are not... This phenomenon definitely has an effect on the perception of the size of issues. Not to deny there is a potential issue, but so many including myself have managed to make our devices and others very stable.
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I'm satisfied with mine. I bought it back in September as my own birthday present. In hindsight, I guess I could have waited for the Prime, but I had been on the fence about buying a tab for months and I didn't want to end up constantly waiting for something better to come out, all the while not enjoying having a tablet.
I didn't buy it for any specific reason. I just wanted something that I would keep around the house. Something to look something up real quick while watching tv. Or read something out in the yard. Or play a quick game. Etc. Just basica stuff you would want to do but not want to lug around a laptop for.
Stock it did everything I needed it to. I did root and overclock. After a while I began to get mad at the amount of apps that didn't work or didn't work right with honeycomb though.
I just flashed ICS the other night. Haven't had any serious issues and I think now the tablet finally performs as it should. Everything is much more fluid and polished and hopefully now there will be greater compatibility with apps. Some things still annoy me that are no fault of the tab...like the lack of availibility of apps like hbo go. It really grinds my gears. I mean really...who the hell still uses android 2.1?
But yes, overall I am very happy with it. Aside from doin what I originally wanted it to do, i've obtained some useful apps that can help me with my work when i'm at home. It's a device I would feel naked without at this point. It's really always with me.
had mine since release. currently on team EOS rom and it's significantly faster than stock ICS, most notably while browsing. i love being able to scroll down a big webpage at full speed and see no lag at all, which stock never came close to doing! aside from the black screen on rotation, i have had no problems.
it saddens me to see so many people having trouble. mine has never rebooted or anything like that, literally everything has worked perfectly. i feel like my transformer will last awhile, it's been a great laptop replacement thus far.
i just wish hulu plus worked on aosp ICS roms. is there a way?
Had mine for over a year already. Still running fine.
Currently running Megatron ROM with guevor's kernel.
No sods and no rr's at all for me
CM9 and Test 17 1.5ghz o/c
My tablet has only ever been off when I have been out for a weekend the rest of the time it is never turned off so it has probably gone without rest for a year all up
Very happy with my tf and it is used everyday in fact i had a accident recently and have had to take time off work so there has been a couple times i have used it all day non stop
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I'm quite happy with my TF101 running stock ICS.
At first I had quite a lot of unexplained reboots but that seems to have stopped.
I use my TF101 daily for IM and web browsing which is exactly what I got it for.
Hi everyone, As title states i am looking to buy a tf300 to replace my aging hp dv6000 laptop running vista (yes i know why u stayed with vista, got used to it) At this moment I do not need a laptop as my desktop will be able to manage everything but do require something on the run enter tf300..
I do have a couple of questions if someone can answer them that would be great!
1. I have heard that the tf300 drains battery whilst the screen is off i have read things like the acer a510 has the ability not to drain battery whilst screen is off. Has there been any development that will help achieve this?
2. There is great rom development here with this device, has development help improve battery with this deivce? review stats indicate that the tablet on its own is only good for 8 hours with dock it may get you to 11 hours..
Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers.
It would be a great idea to check out the Dev. section of the tf300t's forum to see if they have got a ROM that improves battery life. (There is, but I'm to lazy to find the link )
That said are you considering getting the keyboard dock with the tab as well? I would highly recommended it, and it would go to increase the battery life of the tab.
Ok thanks I will have a look see, yes of course I will get the dock my trade off will be battery life though but with the only brand to have keyboard and android power its hard to move away from
Yes it drains when the screen is off. Someone said they lost %6 over 24 hours with the wifi left on. At that rate it would take over 2 weeks to completely drain it.
Imagine the rate would be less if you keep the wifi off. Don't take any of that as a guarantee, just word from one unverified source.
And there's always development going on. It's a fairly popular device that's new on the market. There's bound to be plenty of things coming from the community over the coming months.
One thing to also consider is how fast the TF300 charges. It only takes a couple hours to put a full charge on mine. Much better than some other tablets *cough ipad cough*.
cool thanks for that, i know what u mean that other tablet.. somehow one has managed to make its way into the house...no its not mine its my mums..
Like pretty much every other device, there is battery drain when sleep. But it's not like you'll wake it with half your battery gone or anything. The drain will be in the low single digits, like 2% or 3% Most people who have the tab only charge once every one or two days. Sometimes even less.
Ok cool, well I have just made my purchase hopefully it will be ready for pick up sometime tomorrow, it was $598AUD but I had some gift cards and filled a money jar worth of coins so I am going to be paying about $300 for a new tf300.
Thanks guys for your inputs.
Cheers.
Just got my tf300 looks amazing. I have a noob question... Should I be putting my existing Gmail account on my phone to link to the tablet or should I make a brand new account? Reason is if I use my existing one will that back up everything on my phone to the tablet and if I were to flash roms and recover everything will it screw around with it? First time tablet owner Btw
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I have the same two Google accounts linked on my tablet and phone with no problems.
Ok so nothing conflicts by using the same account?
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Nope. Google can tell which device you're using. If you go to the Play Store on a computer, when you install an app, it will give you a list of all the devices you're logged into. It won't restore apps from one device onto another.
and it's even better if you use the same account, because it automatically syncs whatever (from google and their products, services,...) you have in this device to other android devices you sign in.
Awesome thanks guys, everything is running great thus far only problem i have come across is the mouse on the keyboard can be a bit laggy at times other than that its great!
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With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty issues and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
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Thanks, took the plunge it was hard not to at >300.
I would buy it again without hesitation.
The combo with the dock and CromiX is still atm unbeatable.
On travel with 15hrs batt time watching full hd movies, do 90% on it what I do on my laptop, the microsdcard, the sdcard in the dock, the usb slot, no other combo is available atm that can beat that. Period.
Is there more to say?
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With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Congrats! Hope you can also find a great deal for the dock. From a productivity perspective, I would also buy it again-the keyboard and extra battery definitely puts the tablet above the rest in my opinion. From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
In a heartbeat.
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From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
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It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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In a heartbeat.
It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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Good to know I made the right decision with TF700! :good:
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With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Truthfully have you tried a factory reset and such? I am unlocked but did install the stock 4.2.1 and I felt it ran really well, compared to 4.1.1 anyways, which is what was pushed in December. If you had your tablet for 10 months, or already unlocked but having flashed CromiX, you should definitely do so .
Also I agree with another posted above even though I already commented once . Today I was flashing files, modding, for about 7 hours straight. I didnt have dock on but I had it with me. When the tablet hit about 30%, I put the dock on to recharge that battery. By the time the dock was at 0%, the tablet was back at 75% Now, if you can get 7 hours on 70%, with dock adding back up to 3/4 battery, its an easy 12-14 hours of tablet. I doubt any tablet out there can do that . A friend had a HTC phone, forget exact version. He was playing it for maybe 3 hours and his phone was already half way dead, and he didnt have a backup battery either .
Tylor
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Unlock and all your problems will disappear. It's weird to think a third party can advance a tab better than the company's own developers, but they can tenfold.
No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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A warranty that only fixes hardware issues, not software. The only way to actually get an acceptable ROM, to me anyways, is to unlock. I personally think 4.2.1 fresh runs great, however it is bloated, and the stock kernel could use some of _That's tweaking to make it acceptable, again personal opinion. And sbdags or dasunsrules, dont know if I spelled correct, will treat help you much more then ASUS will ever software wise.
Tylor
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And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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After 1 or two months of use,if a problem doesnt occur, then more then likely no hardware problem will occur. If something happens, like a screen breaking, they will still place the blame on you. It is only a warranty from defects, not accidental use. So I dont even see the use after a couple months. Truthfully my screen has defects in it, but I live with it. It is not a HUGE dual and can only see it when the screen is off. So it dont actually effect the use of it while you are using it, so no sense in sending it in, and I unlocked knowing the defect, but it is a minor one. The bigger defect was the software ROM on it, but that is fixed .
Tylor
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Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Yes.
The ASUS TF700T worked fine out-of-the-box, but lagged with the stock ROM. Unlocking it and installing CleanROM Inheritance was the best thing I ever did.
There are two things that I wish it had out-of-the box. The first is a USB port and the second is a version with cellular data services.
I have the USB port adapter and love the fact that ASUS made it a powered USB port adapter, but having a true USB port would have been preferable.
There are times when I wish that I had cellular data services on it, in addition to WiFi. Most phones today have the ability to act as a hotspot, so it's not a big deal, but it would have been more convenient.
Yes. I've used it for university and the dock combo meant I've typed all my notes on ever note. I used it stock for 5 months and even then it was okay. Recently since the latest jb it got slower and so I got the bug for flashing customs. Never looked back since. Performance is amazing. Is quick, snappy, access apps quickly. Annoying it took to now to realise it but glad I did.
At the end of the day you use a tablet to use noted to look at. I'd rather get my moneys worth out of it than barely use it as its buggy etc.
If if breaks it breaks which I hope to god it doesn't. But already I used it and wasnt frustrated with it.
I love it. Which there were more accessories I.e a real smart cover but still love it. Tried the Samsung 10.2 and was awful compared. Resolution was horrid.
I'm sat in car on a long drive with this tethered to my phone loving life.
Just enjoy it. Use it.
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hell the F*ck No!
Should have bought a Ultra Book and a Kindle HD.
This thing cost me $750 with the keyboard.
and I prefer to use my ICS phone that's almost 2 yrs old for just about anything I can do with the tablet except videos.
It's totally laggy, and unusable if a app is updating in the background. Some websites take 30+ sec to load.
I've had more random reboots with this tablet then I've had in my entire life with Windows, and I go back to Win 3.1!
My take is: Asus is great at offering features and design, but they suck on execution for anything other than motherboards.
While I enjoy my tablet greatly I'm not sure I would recommend it. I'm one of the small number of people who for whatever reason, their tablets are unable to unlock using the unlocking tool. This renders me unable to experience what others are saying concerning flashing better roms to really make the tablet perform. I also can't get OTAs or user the device tracker. It's currently shipping back from RMA to fix some light bleed on the screen and the issue with the tablet being unable to get OTAs/device tracker to work. I just called and the service rep said the screen was replaced with a new one and all tests they ran on the system came back fine. He couldn't say if the main problem that concerned me of the tablet not communicating with the Asus servers was fixed but there should be a detailed report of what was done. If the unlock tool doesn't work fine, but the tablet should be able to receive any updates Asus releases from the moment it's turned on after purchase. I was fine running the stock rom with any bloatware turned off. Coming from the Prime, it is a smooth user experience for me. My day is not ruined if it takes an extra 3 seconds to open an application.
With the dock this tablet is truly remarkable. The extra battery and being able to type takes the device beyond other tablets in usage. Sure anyone can get a blue tooth keyboard but that is only going to drain the battery faster. It also has the usb port and full size sd-card slot. The screen is really nice and even though I have a anti-glare protector which does subtract from it's clear picture, it's still great.
The reason I wouldn't recommend it is the price and lack of support from some of the big game developers. This is supposed to be a top notch portable multimedia experience and with the gpu in it we shouldn't be stuck running games which are not fully using the hardware. Look around the forums as there are ways to side load the games on to the system but that doesn't mean they will all function properly. Concerning price, a person will end up dropping about $650-700 bucks after tax for the tablet dock combo. If I were to be buying a tablet again and what I've told two coworkers, I'd go for the TF300 line. Sure the screen is not as good but the tablet/dock combo comes out to about $500. Or I would hold out and see what summer tablets are lined up. So far I'm actually not impressed with what the manufactures have out now. I'm interested in seeing what Samsung's new Exynos processors can do in a tablet.
Enjoying my tab, arrived overnight refurbed for $291 pristene condition. Unfortunately it came updated and is on 4.2.1 the kernels 3.1.10, would of like to of tried it before the update and I believe the unlocking options are easier (still confirming). More testing to do before I can unlock what are the most popular\necessary tweaks?
Edit: nevermind this is thread I failed to find b4 asking http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834521
No
Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.
Ragarianok said:
Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung, thus many of their older devices are now going to be banned from being sold in the US. This includes the Skyrocket.
http://smartphones.reviewed.com/news/apples-lawsuit-win-spells-the-end-of-old-samsung-phones
In fact, it's not even listed on Amazon anymore.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.
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Some people still use it, even if it's just used as a music player. Saying that it was a piece of excrement is merely your opinion. It was about a year ago that I switched from my old Skyrocket to the Moto G 2014 I'm using now, but the switch was a personal choice. It still worked quite well.
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It isn't really opinion. It was so slow that I missed like 75% of calls because it took so long to register the swipe to answer. I would launch even as simple app like the calculator and count to 3 before it even started to show on the screen. Even a factory reset didn't make any difference. The battery life was terrible too. An 1.5 hours screen on time with 8 hours off the charger and the battery was dead and even buying a new battery didn't help. I also had to replace the back cover 3 times because of how easily it wore out.
I'm 32 years old and have made a LOT of purchases in my life. Buying the Skyrocket was literally the worst purchasing decision I ever made. When I replaced it(after .5 years of ok use and 1.5 years of hell) with my Nexus 5 I actually smashed the phone with a hammer.
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Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure
vincom said:
speak for yourself.
mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
i read ur other post and maybe you just got a lemon as there are still many users using this phone considering its 4yrs old, not too many phones last that long w/out some kind of failure
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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.
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Maybe with a custom ROM it might be a little better. With the stock Samsung ROM it was awful even after factory reset. As far as hardware goes the build quality was still terrible. At the end I almost couldn't charge it any more since the USB port got so damn loose. If I picked up the phone while it was plugged in the USB cable literally fell out of the port. And the back cover, what a joke.
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Still going strong here! All original parts and rockin marshmallow...who would've thought this phone would make it this far. Glad you were able to find a phone that you like and are now able to move on. Later
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I just fired mine up after being in a drawer for a few months. Still works great.
Pretty snappy for a phone that is nearly 5 years old.
My rocket is still blasting to the sky! On it 10-16 hours daily! Text, email, calls, pictures and games. I had to fix the power button once.
This phone is a rock!
jimv1983 said:
Kind of pointless for a phone that hasn't been discontinued for years. That phone come out in late 2011 and was a piece of **** anyways.
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Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.
jshamlet said:
Are you sure you aren't thinking about the original Galaxy S2? The Skyrocket got a CPU upgrade along with LTE support, and it definitely wasn't a PoS. My wife and I finally upgraded when the batteries stopped holding much of a charge, but I keep them around and they are still reasonable devices. We certainly never had a problem with not being able to answer a call, or apps taking too long to load.
I have one on Sultan's old KK ROM and the other I'm using as a test-bed for Candy6. I will admit that LP and MM have been poky on these old phones, but hell, they are 5 years old at this point. That's an awfully good run for any device.
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Nope, I'm thinking of the Skyrocket. I had one. I got it in December of 2011. It was AT&T's first LTE phone. Maybe you had better luck if you had a custom ROM but the stock Samsung software was awful. Even after a factor reset. Worst purchase of any kind I have made......EVER.
Well that was your problem right there. TouchWhiz was particularly awful during those days. It's still not great, but it was absurdly bloated in Android 4 (ICS, JB). If you could revert to Gingerbread, it was actually a decent device with stock, but then you would be running Gingerbread...
CyanogenMod actually ran pretty well, though, and fixed most of the issues Samsung introduced.
vincom said:
speak for yourself. mines going onto 4yrs of use, still my dd, everything works, boots up fast to cm10.2, every app works, quick and responsive, original battery, dropped it numerous times and nothing broke, best phone ive ever had.
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Here, here
I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.
nawlage said:
I'm posting from my rocket. What year is it? This thing's a beast.
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It's been quite a few years since I retired my Rocket, but I remember it fondly. Today, I'm using a Pixel 2 XL and I love it.
Still using a Skyrocket, just as an mp3 player though. It's running CM 13.0, and its not that bad.
Considering the phone is over 10 years old, It's pretty amazing modern apps still work on it. I would love to push it with an Android 10 ROM, but sadly I've only seen Android 7 being the highest version supported by the community. I think this phone just got lost to time unlike the regular S2.