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[To "lagfix" or Not to "lagfix" This is the question]

This will be the start of a hopefully short lived thread as I only intend to use it to post my findings about the affects of a lagfix. Alright if you are going to come in here to start a flame war about how you know it works or doesn't work just "because" do not even post just leave now! if you have actual measurable data or intelligent input then please contribute.
So a lot of folks state that the advantage lagfix has for them is general responsiveness of applications like touchdown or the market or even jsut opening speedtest.net app. I already no that the direct read/write speed to the FS where the OS resides shows the Captivate much faster than the Nexus one and there is no general feeling that the N1 needs any lagfix. So we can not measure any advantage of a lagfix just by testing the read/write speed of the FS. what then? if it's application responsiveness that is the difference then we have to create environment in the form of a measurable benchmark. So right now I have a ver VERY comprehensive I/O bench script running. it creates an application level benchmark environment where several to many processes are each running various mixed mode I/O streams (read/write/cache) doing this with the exact same standards on a non-lagfix FS and a lagfix FS will show even the smallest most tiny variations in the different types of I/O. it will let us know if perhaps there is a certain type of stream (buffer size, block size, file size) that a lagfix might be improving upon. once the results finish here in about half an hour I will sift through the results, build a graph then post it! I am in no way on one side or the other of a lagfix, I have used both and would rather keep my opinion to my self right now. check back later today for results. I welcome all constructive input/ideas/do it better benchmark (currently 1429 Hawaii standard time)

This is also a question that came in to my head before installing a lag fix.
Well i notice some lags in a stock non-lag fixed captivate. Examples are in games like asphalt (when you win/lose a race) and in N.O.V.A. (progress save) and sometimes in google search widget (when you tap on the text bar, a little sec before the virtual keyboard appear).
I thought that these are just bugs on software or the app itself, but everything is gone when i install lag fix. Yes there are still lags but not as much as before.

This is awesome, can't wait to read it. Are you considering releasing the batch script so others can attempt to contribute?

Already got moved but it doesn't matter. I for one can not wait to see your results cruiser. If you do decide you want to let someone else try your benchmark I'll gladly run it as well.

phishie said:
This is awesome, can't wait to read it. Are you considering releasing the batch script so others can attempt to contribute?
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Absolutely! I take no credit for these tools and credit will be given where due once the graph is up. I only wrote a script to create the benching environment I wanted. using these tools you can write a very comprehensive script to create the benching environment you want/need for the specific aspect that is being benched. these tools don't just test hardware as hardware is nothing without great software. so using the application level software components to perform these benches and bouncing them off the hardware benches you can see what areas of the software environment are choking what part of the systems performance and vice the versa.

There are a few different lagfixes out there - so don't leave any out. Also, some attack one partition, others attack more then one (/dbdata) - so you need to take this into account. Also Touchdown, and i believe stock email app, benefit because they store data on dbdata in a database - so database throughput should be part of the equation.
Benchmarks are nice, but i have tried with and without and see the difference deleting emails using the stock client. That being said, I rolled back to stock because one-click odin does a poor job of reformatting everything - I don't want to get stuck with an EXT4 filesystem and stock kernel with no way to go.

I found with 2.2 it is way faster than 2.1. But 2.1 with any lag fix is still faster. Now you could run 2.2 with no lag fix and it's definetly fast enough but with a lag fix it's amazing. It's like buying a 300hp sports car then the sales guy asks you if you want the 400hp model for a free upgrade and it gets the same gas milage and you saying no because 300hp is plenty to get you around town. If theres even a chance a lag fix makes a difference why not do it, it's not gonna make it any slower thats for sure.
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Just my 2 cents, I do think that lag fix will give you better performance with certain apps however, it is not that significant and with Froyo, I had problems with apps force closing and battery drain (probably from all the background crashes) with it enabled. I do not think it is needed and may cause more problems than it is worth. Maybe later once the official Froyo is out for a while and the lag fix apps are improved, it may be worth another look. But for now, I do not think it is worth it. But your mileage may vary and if you think your phone is too slow without it, you may have some other underlying issue that needs more attention than trying to fix it with a lag fix.

Duty calls, this is taking longer than I anticipated so I'll still be running this on different file systems tomorrow after work. very interesting results so far though! Spoiler alert! there are obvious gains from database read/writes, only milliseconds but I suppose that counts when it comes to responsiveness of certain programs.

I can't wait to see the results.

I wanted to say that I am interested in what you are trying to do here and appreciate the time you are putting into making this an unbiased effort at answering this question.
I also wanted to provide you with my own real world experience based on three different captivates all presently using cognition 2.2b5.5...until later tonight...lol
I have never installed a lag fix on two of the phones (my wife and duaghter's) and held off on reinstalling the ext lagfix on mine again until yesterday as I wanted to see if it would benefit the performance prior to updating again to beta6
On the phones that my wife and daughter use, I can see where the lagfix is not necessary and they don't complain about any hangups. However, on mine I definitely see a performance improvement with the lagfix installed and i am quite sure that the reason is I am addicted to widgets almost as bad as flashing and I cannot seem to get away from them. After installing the lagfix I do not get the occasional "freezes" that occurred without it and music never skips when opening other apps.
Also, all three phones are running launcher pro, using at least a few widgets, such as friends, messaging, weather, etc. Not sure how you would reflect this in your testing but I do see a difference here though I would love, and certainly tried, to not use the lagfix.

It seems people have gotten bored of this issue. I will say this:
When I ODINed directly from 2.2Beta2 to 2.2Beta5.5, lag was undeniably horrible and OCLF made a huge difference.
When I master-cleared 5.5, ODINed to stock 2.1, then ODINed to 2.2Beta6, everything became zippy fast again without any lagfix. I'm afraid to even try to put OCLF on there now.
Anyone experiencing lag when others say they shouldnt: go through most or all of the steps I laid out for battery drain. Quirks abound, and your lag and lagfix situation could be an indirect side-effect, and not a direct result, of the ROM you've flashed to.

I agree. Some of the claims are down right odd about lag issues so I too feel a lot has to do with "left overs".

My Experiences
i didn't install the lag fix because of the horror stories in the forums about applying an update and having to roll everything back. Normally it's not so bad but I've noticed some of the behavior mentioned. Are these issues addressed in the Froyo leaks (hopefully official) or will these always be a problem.
-Load time of games (using Asphalt 5 and comparing the load times to an IP4 running the same game). The Captivate load times were very slow.
-The appearance of freezing when you win / lose a race in Asphalt 5?
It may not be a fair comparison for load times but it's obvious signs something is wrong when I'm trying to brag to my friends about how my phone is better then theres
The biggest issue I have is with the music stuttering though. I listen to music at work (normally the 13GB data partition is full of music) and the email client is running in the background. The music stutters A LOT when it's downloading the emails. Is this issue no longer a problem in Froyo?

Hopefully this settles it.
Here's a vid I made. I don't know how to split-screen, but I think this makes the point regardless.
I master cleared, then stock 2.1, then Cog 2.2B6. I didn't restore any backups, all fresh installs and configs.
When I ODINed directly from Beta3 to Beta6, the lag was horrible. Doing a master clear, stock, to 6 was much better. But even then, as seen below, there is blatantly noticeable lag. That only leads me to believe that the issue relates to something like fragmentation, and that if people used beta6 for a few weeks without a lagfix, they'll end up with really bad lag too.
For the record, I doubt any of this has much to do with DG's work. I don't think DG is responsible for lag. DG is only responsible for giving us awesome alternatives to choose from when we don't like what the factory gave us and we're willing to take the risk. However, the lag is not a placebo, and your benchmarks are deceiving you.
I picked Touchdown because it was an easily reproduced example, but I notice a difference all over.
The stopwatch is to add legitimacy. The iPhone, to add irony. There's a glass of beer off-camera you can't see, but it's responsible for most of the background noise.

Alright folks!
Those of us in the Military know how your work schedule can tends to change randomly causing you to change your plans a lot. Anyway as I don't see myself with the free time to spend making a cool but not very practical PowerPoint right now I am going to tell ya'll what I found and post the DHT tools so you can play around with it yourselves.
First to those who wish to try the tools, read the vague overview file in there it's as good as it gets as far as information from DHT. you HAVE to run the IO bench several time in both read, write ADN mixed modes. Make sure you run each mode a few times specifying different files sizes block sizes AND numbers of IO streams! each specific setup should be run 5 times and averaged, if run in each set is 5% or more from the rest it should be scrapped and run again. NOTE: some modes require you to have already deployed a file or DB to run the test on!
Alright so I found the difference in every area except one to be non-substantial! and by that I mean 5%+/- (within the considered error margin)
I ONLY HAVE HAD THE TIME TO TEST OCLF! all benches were run on Cognition 2.2B5.5.
When you start getting more than TWO IO streams you start to see a substantial difference in the DB IO streams. in my last run in mixed mode multi-stream bench of 5 runs (all within the acceptable margin) it showed a 19% increase in throughput over the stock FS! I know that doesn't sound like a lot but milliseconds count when it means the responsiveness of an application! One thing I did not do which I wont get to for a while is look into how many IO streams are running and in what modes while running some common applications! this could give us an idea of what kind of bench environment to set up and perhaps give us a base (just for information sake) % throughput increase with a certain FS. just to give you an idea (I am sure most people already know this but wth) of what types of application might take advantage of an increased IO throughput on DB read/writes. A lot more applications do DB IO streams than you might think, some email applications/exchange contact syncs, even some system settings are stored in DB anyways I say it's up to the person! I wont personally use a FS patch "lagfix" until A at least as stable as the current COG2.2B6 Voodoo kernel is done for the captivate. I don't feel like messing with the loopback stuff and whatnot, I can live with it like it is as I don't feel it's bad enough to HAVE to have one, but again everyone is different! However when Voodoo comes standard in a good ROM like COG I say what the hell~! even if it's only 10% gain and only in certain situations! if it's stable and cooked in then it can't hurt me right! ok enough now hope you guys can figure out the tools well enough. it is clear that no matter what anyone says it is factual that no matter how small in SOME situations/applications there IS an IO throughput gain when using OCLF and I am sure any other EXTx FS. weather or not the gain % is worth the possible side effects, well like everyone keeps saying (well almost everyone, some do just cry "MUST HAVE IT") that's up to you!

Ok great video mate.
I also noticed one HUGE lag difference which now made me a believer.
I use Launcher Pro and when adding applications to the lower scrolling bar there was always lag the first time accessing the applications.
I timed it at 17 seconds without lag fix and no delay with lag fix...that is BIG!

That was one of my bigger lag issues too...lp seeming to freeze but after finally giving up on touchwiz a while ago and removing it I have been able to get by without the lagfix though I am probably going to use one again as soon as voodoo is available for 2.2
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shaolin95 said:
Ok great video mate.
I also noticed one HUGE lag difference which now made me a believer.
I use Launcher Pro and when adding applications to the lower scrolling bar there was always lag the first time accessing the applications.
I timed it at 17 seconds without lag fix and no delay with lag fix...that is BIG!
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I originally intended to include a few other tests in the video:
* Adding an app shortcut
* Opening the app drawer
* fast scrolling through the 3D app drawer and some widget-heavy home screens
* boot times (particularly initializing widgets on the home screen)
However, in prepping for the video (and most particularly after removing TW), I determined that I could not reproduce the lag effect as consistently in any of the above. I've definitely seen what you describe, and noticed lag differences OCLF vs. not OCLF in all of the above, but I've also ran some tests where I couldn't reproduce it. Touchdown was one of the easiest to demo and that never fails to present an obvious difference.
My current theory is that while Froyo has performance tweaks, a lot of the reason people think there is no need for lagfix anymore is because more people were master-clearing and flashing stock before flashing Cog betas. This gives you a clean slate on your fs, with little chance of fragmentation or other inefficiencies that crop up in a well-used file table. Like I said, flashing without going stock or master-clearing, or restoring lots of backups afterwards, seem to be what bring back the lag. A well-managed cache like you get with a lagfix helps that a lot. I still say that even those who claim to see no lag, if they put some heavy use and load some heavy databases and throw some I/Os at them, then over time they will see more and more of the same lag others see. I don't know that for sure, but I do know for sure what you can see in the video. And that's on a recent setup of master-clear, stock, beta, and no backup restores whatseover.

This probably in the wrong section, but I recently purchased the captivate through an upgrade, and read about and installed the lagfix. Yes it did speed up my phone considerably. My quadrant score was about 2386. I was pretty damn impressed. But then I wanted to go back to stock, and just did a factory reset. I don't think the lagfix is installed anymore. But I just want to know if I didn't hurt my device by doing so. Thanks

[Q] Transformer browsers force closing

I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.

some sites are inaccessible without crashing to the desktop. Web browsing is one of the major use cases for the transformer. It will be nice if this geta fixed.

Are you serious? I researched tide tablet for weeks before i decided on it. I knew about the cameras and taking videos not being good, I knee there was a chance for light bleed, and also that there were some problems with hd video playback sometimes. I hadn't read anything however on browsing problems. I tried Firefox and opera along with dolphin and they all stop and crash. I don't understand why someone didn't mention this in their reviews with it being a problem. I've had no problems with light bleed, video playback and the camera is fine for me, but the browsing problem would have dissuaded me from purchasing if I would have known. Is there no fixes at all?

The problem is java script, try to disable java

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I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.
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On Monday I'll have my Transformer for 2 weeks. I just started having browser crashes yesterday only after a couple of minutes of browsing. This has happened on yahoo & xda. At the time I was trying to copy & paste. What I don't understand is I wasn't having problems before.
Also, I am unable to do a search on XDA. The search & keyboard come up monetarily then close.

Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?

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Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?
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Yes, stock & not rooted

I never get force closing pop ups but everynow and then the browser just closes... but then it depends on the website
I;m running overclocked prime

Mine is just stock, I haven't rooted mine either. I can usually browse for 10 minutes or so before mine stops then force closes. It seems strange that it just started after 2 weeks for the one person. If the problem is Java and I turn it off won't that limit some of the sites? I hate to be limited on browsing, otherwise you might as well get a dang ipad. I hope we find a fix for this it's driving me crazy.

Stock, 3.1 not rooted. The crashing is site specific. It happens with Dolphin as well. Xscope will handle the site, but it has other usability issues (like no zoom) . Do other tablets (zoom,tab 10.1,etc) have these issues? I love paying to be a beta tester.

Same problem here, browser crashes on certain webpages without a warning, switching java off solves the problem but this shouldn't be a solution

Turning off Java Script does indeed help a lot it seems - faster loading and far less crashes. As a web technology noob what do I lose w/o Java script? I browse mostly news/science/tech blogs and forums. Not to many interactive (save Facebook of course).
Any good tips on what losing JV scrips limits?
Thanks!

This has been discussed before Its a known issues (at least to us that have them) and its pretty annoying to say the least. Turning off javascript helps in two different ways (stops crashes and speeds up browsing), but some pages wont display correctly without it.

i resolved crashes with "adfree"

I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.

i wwill try the adfree and I will post my results.

I've had my Transformer for about three weeks and besides slowing down quite a bit the stock browser and Dolphin have been crashing regularly as of last week. I'm running stock 3.1 - not rooted or anything. It's gotten bad enough that I've basically stopped using it and am using my Acer W500 and iPad. I can put up with some problems in a new unit but if I had known that Honeycomb was as buggy as it seems to be so far I probably would not have purchased this.

i got mine last week, the default browser performance is unacceptable. It just crashes without any warning. Clicking comboboxes , checkboxes and even links in some cases is far too difficult to get right with one go, there are instances where you simply cant do it at all , even after zooming all the way in. Turning off JavaScript is not an option for me, there are simply too many sites using JavaScript for their manus n stuff. Now using dolphin browser, seemsmuch better, but still unreble.I am a huge android supporter, i have a galaxy s and i love it. But recently i compared this against an ipad 2, i hate to say this but with current firmware (3.1 stock, not rooted) this tablet is far inferior to the ipad when it comes to web browsing. I hate apple products,but at this point id rather have an ipad, over this

bithir said:
I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.
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Try loading gmail web site and see how sluggish the performance is.

Browser Cache
I cleared my browser cache and this seemed to fix it. can someone test and post results?

Web Browsing after last update

How is the web browsing after the last update?
I know the stock browser I hear is poop.
Dolphin/Chrome, etc., just how is the browsing is it smooth?

For some reason, anything based on stock (ICS browser+, dolphin, maxthon) all start to heat up my tablet like crazy. Chrome is deliciously smooth but you can't fast scroll like you can on the stock. Firefox is crazy great too except due to the crap fancy motion blur animations, the browser stutters when you scroll too fast. Opera mobile isn't optimized for both our resolution and our processor so it lags and stutters like crazy. The browser scene is generally a clusterf*ck. I can't even install scriptish on firefox ;_;.

It is pretty smooth, but +1 on scrolling, different windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec in build.prop doesn't seem to change this one.
I'm using Chrome mostly and it's ok, apart from scrolling(!), it's just too slow. But apart from the aforementioned, try Boat Browser.

I'm using the stock browser, chrome and dolphin and just change whatever browser I'm using based on how well it's handling a given website. Some sites like chrome, some dolphin and some stock. I think this approach works best as there's no one perfect browser for all sites (for now).

Just be aware or be prepared with Dolphin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529

d14b0ll0s said:
Just be aware or be prepared with Dolphin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529
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He, I have a fellow crusader.
I'm using Opera Mobile, mostly. It does do fancy things with especially the font size -- it's tiny. I do like Boat, but it has a limited number of speed dials (i.e., insufficient to me ) whereas Opera allows an unlimited number. I guess I should try Chrome, but doesn't that lack Flash support? (I know Flash is meant to die anyway, but lots of sites still use it extensively.)

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MartyHulskemper said:
He, I have a fellow crusader.
I'm using Opera Mobile, mostly. It does do fancy things with especially the font size -- it's tiny. I do like Boat, but it has a limited number of speed dials (i.e., insufficient to me ) whereas Opera allows an unlimited number. I guess I should try Chrome, but doesn't that lack Flash support? (I know Flash is meant to die anyway, but lots of sites still use it extensively.)
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Does it make us the Templars?
I like Chrome and I find myself needing flash quite rarely these days, especially for the websites I'm visiting on the tablet. Hopefully it can stay this way, but I'd really like the scrolling bar from the stock browser! Scrolling in Chrome is just painfully slow, I can't seem to find a way to solve this.
And, talking of privacy issues, I actually do hope Google in fact doesn't store our passwords to the sync of bookmarks etc. Probably NSA doesn't need them to, as a simple brute force attack would suffice? Wonder what encryption they're using.

I've tested and adopted Maxthon HD... Even though it sometimes bugs a bit, I really like it : it's almost as good as a desktop browser :good:
It supports flash, uses Webkit as well as Chrome but scrolling is ok.
Regarding the firmware update, i get less ANR but no other changes, it's not more fluid than it used to be...

Am I the only one for which this site has become almost unusable lately?

The number of ads and scripts (flash, java, whatever) on each page makes my browser slow to an absolute crawl. They can take upwards of 30 seconds to complete (or give the "a script on this page is taking too long to load" message. Until that point, I can't scroll or do anything in any of my browser windows. And this happens on every page load. Every page of every thread on the site.
Do you think having 3 animated Comcast ads viewable on the page at the same time makes me more likely to click on it? The developer of this site might want to take a step back and evaluate how the ads are impacting the use of the site.
I know this is probably better or worse depending on which browser you're using, and how old your computer is, but it seems ridiculous. I don't know of another site on the web that has this significant of an impact on my browsing performance.
Just food for thought... All this is really encouraging people to do is run adblock and never see or click on any of the ads on the site. With adblock enabled, the site behaves like it should, and like all of the other sites on the web.
Dave

Have you tried different theme versions ? The xda 2013 beta ran slow for me as well, but changing it back to xda 2010 sped the site up by a significant amount. May of been placebo and me resisting change but either way it worked for me.
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Use Firefox and download adblock plus problem solved. What's the issue?
As far as ads go, hate em or love 'em, people gotta' make money from them.

Just like the post above use Firefox with ad block plus and element hiding helper for abp.
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Use Firefox and download adblock plus problem solved. What's the issue?
As far as ads go, hate em or love 'em, people gotta' make money from them.
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Just like the post above use Firefox with ad block plus and element hiding helper for abp.
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And use No - Script, it'll be a lot faster.
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I'm aware of these options as solutions. However, should they really be necessary? As a web developer myself, I leave ads enabled in my browser because I have been compensated for people clicking on my ads in the past. But requiring your users to enable an ad/script blocker in order to be able to effectively use the site is pretty ridiculous. I guess I'm just venting about the sheer number of ads/scripts on this site in hopes that something may be done about it to make it more usable for those people that don't block ads.
I view this site on several computers (several OSes/browsers) almost every day. It is completely usable on some of them, and unbearable on others. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there (perhaps the people responsible for the site) that think the site performs fine. It does on some platforms. However, I want them to be aware that it doesn't perform well on all platforms. After posting this thread, I timed the point where I clicked a link, and when I was able to scroll the page (because the browser was hung). It took 17 seconds between the time the page started to load, and the time the browser came back to life. All but about 2 seconds of that was waiting for ads/scripts to settle down. The content of the page loaded almost immediately, but the flash ads hung the browser completely for almost 15 seconds.
I guess what is most concerning is how much worse it seems to have gotten within the last month or so. I'm not sure why that is (different ads, more ads?), but it has gotten noticeably worse.
Dave

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I'm aware of these options as solutions. However, should they really be necessary? As a web developer myself, I leave ads enabled in my browser because I have been compensated for people clicking on my ads in the past. But requiring your users to enable an ad/script blocker in order to be able to effectively use the site is pretty ridiculous. I guess I'm just venting about the sheer number of ads/scripts on this site in hopes that something may be done about it to make it more usable for those people that don't block ads.
I view this site on several computers (several OSes/browsers) almost every day. It is completely usable on some of them, and unbearable on others. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there (perhaps the people responsible for the site) that think the site performs fine. It does on some platforms. However, I want them to be aware that it doesn't perform well on all platforms. After posting this thread, I timed the point where I clicked a link, and when I was able to scroll the page (because the browser was hung). It took 17 seconds between the time the page started to load, and the time the browser came back to life. All but about 2 seconds of that was waiting for ads/scripts to settle down. The content of the page loaded almost immediately, but the flash ads hung the browser completely for almost 15 seconds.
I guess what is most concerning is how much worse it seems to have gotten within the last month or so. I'm not sure why that is (different ads, more ads?), but it has gotten noticeably worse.
Dave
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There is a thread for this issue: Intrusive ads? Post here!

New Chrome version no LAG

The version of Chrome just released stopped me from either throwing this thing at a wall or (more likely) unlocking and flashing. Up until today, every browser, including Chrome, would load to 90%, then hang for ten seconds or so. If I tried to interact with the page in any way before it finished loading, I'd get the dreaded "xxxx isn't responding, Would you like to close it?.... Wait - OK".
This version (25.0.1364.169), will let me scroll around freely and start reading text while it continues loading pictures and ads. Amazing!
Of course, I will probably unlock and flash a rom eventually, I just wanted to use it for a few months with warranty and maybe wait for 4.2.2 to be released first. I have had very few complaints with the device besides that hanging/error message issue.
I still prefer the stock browser with the Labs 'swipe from edge' hidden address bar feature, but maybe something like that will come to Chrome eventually. Does anyone know how to auto-hide the address bar and tabs in this version of Chrome? Meantime I will use Chrome for all sites where full screen viewing is not vital.
Bob Graham

rvgraham said:
The version of Chrome just released stopped me from either throwing this thing at a wall or (more likely) unlocking and flashing. Up until today, every browser, including Chrome, would load to 90%, then hang for ten seconds or so. If I tried to interact with the page in any way before it finished loading, I'd get the dreaded "xxxx isn't responding, Would you like to close it?.... Wait - OK".
This version (25.0.1364.169), will let me scroll around freely and start reading text while it continues loading pictures and ads. Amazing!
Of course, I will probably unlock and flash a rom eventually, I just wanted to use it for a few months with warranty and maybe wait for 4.2.2 to be released first. I have had very few complaints with the device besides that hanging/error message issue.
I still prefer the stock browser with the Labs 'swipe from edge' hidden address bar feature, but maybe something like that will come to Chrome eventually. Does anyone know how to auto-hide the address bar and tabs in this version of Chrome? Meantime I will use Chrome for all sites where full screen viewing is not vital.
Bob Graham
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Hmm it's still very laggy compared to CROMI and stock browser I'm afraid.

I agree with sbdags cromi and stock browser combo is smoother and more responsive, even compared to latest chrome release . Actually I've found that to be the case for any other browser as well.

Seconded.
I too have a huge performance increase with the new chrome. I'm on CM10.1 so the improvements must not be specific to stock. Glad you posted this :good:; I'd given up on chrome because of laginess. Now I can have my "other devices tab" and good performance at the same time. Biggest noticeable change for me is (as you found) scrolling while pages load.

Noticed the Chrome update this a.m.
Tried it on the usual sluggish java heavy websites still not as snappy as stock under CROMi + B2Ram.
Chrome is slightly better with this update...it's just not a preference with me over stock or BOAT ad free.

For the people using chrome on stock its the Brest version so far. A lot of things got better. Page loading is a lot better when compared to the older version. And the scrolling is great too.

I thought that browser2ram worked with Chrome as well, or was that a specially tweaked version?
@sbdags: I thought I'd seen a Chrome-capable version in CROMI before?
If this is the case, well, then Chrome is just still slower than stock anyway. I love speed dials, but I hate them being so limited in number. The sync capabilities were nice, but ever since the stock browser started supporting sync too I haven't looked back. I traditionally hated stock browser -- be it on Android or on Windows -- but the current one on Android is pretty good with browser2ram attached.

Just thought id chime in on this. Unfrtunately cannot report the same decreased lag with the new Chrome update. In fact, id say it is worse. Unusable actually, which is no loss for me as i use stock...... which is a lag-machine as well, just slightly less so. Ironically, of all the websites i visit regularily, XDA seems to be the most taxing and almost always will produce a FC if i dont let it fully load before attempting to scroll. When i test a browser update i come here to see how fast the page loads!!!
At any rate, i deal with it and still love this tab....

Thats OK said:
Noticed the Chrome update this a.m.
Tried it on the usual sluggish java heavy websites still not as snappy as stock under CROMi + B2Ram.
Chrome is slightly better with this update...it's just not a preference with me over stock or BOAT ad free.
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Same here

sbdags said:
Hmm it's still very laggy compared to CROMI and stock browser I'm afraid.
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Agreed, google chrome is slow, and it wont allow flash, fck google chrome, a browser is useless without flash bc you can barely access any content that isnt text or pics, accessing content is the whole point of the internet. Browsing was a headache until i started using stock browser with B2RAM. browser2RAM more than doubles browsing speed, responsiveness, and smoothness. Stop dicking around with stock ASUS tf700, it is a waste of your time. All the time you spend waiting to browse the web can be spent on ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.

lucius.zen said:
a browser is useless without flash bc you can barely access any content that isnt text or pics, accessing content is the whole point of the internet.
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Web content is in HTML and images - Flash is a proprietary disease and must die as soon as possible.