The number of ads and scripts (flash, java, whatever) on each page makes my browser slow to an absolute crawl. They can take upwards of 30 seconds to complete (or give the "a script on this page is taking too long to load" message. Until that point, I can't scroll or do anything in any of my browser windows. And this happens on every page load. Every page of every thread on the site.
Do you think having 3 animated Comcast ads viewable on the page at the same time makes me more likely to click on it? The developer of this site might want to take a step back and evaluate how the ads are impacting the use of the site.
I know this is probably better or worse depending on which browser you're using, and how old your computer is, but it seems ridiculous. I don't know of another site on the web that has this significant of an impact on my browsing performance.
Just food for thought... All this is really encouraging people to do is run adblock and never see or click on any of the ads on the site. With adblock enabled, the site behaves like it should, and like all of the other sites on the web.
Dave
Have you tried different theme versions ? The xda 2013 beta ran slow for me as well, but changing it back to xda 2010 sped the site up by a significant amount. May of been placebo and me resisting change but either way it worked for me.
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Use Firefox and download adblock plus problem solved. What's the issue?
As far as ads go, hate em or love 'em, people gotta' make money from them.
Just like the post above use Firefox with ad block plus and element hiding helper for abp.
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Use Firefox and download adblock plus problem solved. What's the issue?
As far as ads go, hate em or love 'em, people gotta' make money from them.
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Just like the post above use Firefox with ad block plus and element hiding helper for abp.
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And use No - Script, it'll be a lot faster.
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I'm aware of these options as solutions. However, should they really be necessary? As a web developer myself, I leave ads enabled in my browser because I have been compensated for people clicking on my ads in the past. But requiring your users to enable an ad/script blocker in order to be able to effectively use the site is pretty ridiculous. I guess I'm just venting about the sheer number of ads/scripts on this site in hopes that something may be done about it to make it more usable for those people that don't block ads.
I view this site on several computers (several OSes/browsers) almost every day. It is completely usable on some of them, and unbearable on others. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there (perhaps the people responsible for the site) that think the site performs fine. It does on some platforms. However, I want them to be aware that it doesn't perform well on all platforms. After posting this thread, I timed the point where I clicked a link, and when I was able to scroll the page (because the browser was hung). It took 17 seconds between the time the page started to load, and the time the browser came back to life. All but about 2 seconds of that was waiting for ads/scripts to settle down. The content of the page loaded almost immediately, but the flash ads hung the browser completely for almost 15 seconds.
I guess what is most concerning is how much worse it seems to have gotten within the last month or so. I'm not sure why that is (different ads, more ads?), but it has gotten noticeably worse.
Dave
dodgeboy said:
I'm aware of these options as solutions. However, should they really be necessary? As a web developer myself, I leave ads enabled in my browser because I have been compensated for people clicking on my ads in the past. But requiring your users to enable an ad/script blocker in order to be able to effectively use the site is pretty ridiculous. I guess I'm just venting about the sheer number of ads/scripts on this site in hopes that something may be done about it to make it more usable for those people that don't block ads.
I view this site on several computers (several OSes/browsers) almost every day. It is completely usable on some of them, and unbearable on others. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there (perhaps the people responsible for the site) that think the site performs fine. It does on some platforms. However, I want them to be aware that it doesn't perform well on all platforms. After posting this thread, I timed the point where I clicked a link, and when I was able to scroll the page (because the browser was hung). It took 17 seconds between the time the page started to load, and the time the browser came back to life. All but about 2 seconds of that was waiting for ads/scripts to settle down. The content of the page loaded almost immediately, but the flash ads hung the browser completely for almost 15 seconds.
I guess what is most concerning is how much worse it seems to have gotten within the last month or so. I'm not sure why that is (different ads, more ads?), but it has gotten noticeably worse.
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Engadget did a small feature on this really wicked awesome looking browser. It has the Kaiser featuring this browser. You can find that article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/skyfire-browser-for-windows-mobile-is-game-changing-does-flash/2#comments
You can sign up for the private beta here: http://www.skyfire.com/sign-up I suggest yall don't wait to long signing up as who knows how long this will be open.
Oh and so you dont wonder I didnt have a beta code and I signed up. I got this email back from them, "Thank you for signing up for the Skyfire private beta program. We will notify you when the beta version of Skyfire mobile web browser is ready for a test drive. We look forward to your feature suggestions, troubleshooting tips and ideas. Even with the early beta release, you'll be browsing the web on your phone just like you do on your PC."
I hope we dont have to wait to long for the actual ability to download this broswer looks cool.
OH and FYI:
From their Privacy Policy:
"Once you have subscribed to and begin to use the Browser, we will collect information about your use of the Browser on your Device (“Browser Usage Information”). Browser Usage Information includes such information as which websites and programs you access or download on your Device, how long you visit such websites and use such programs, your activities (such as products purchased or advertisements viewed) on such websites, which specific areas of a website or webpage you use and for how long, websites you bookmark, search terms you use, referring/exit pages, browser and platform types, the geographic location in which your Device is being used and information you provide on third party websites. All of your Browser Usage Information is stored by Skyfire under an automatically generated, random identification number (“ID Number”) that will not be associated with or linked to your Personal Information. Please be aware, though, that your Browser Usage Information, when viewed in the aggregate, may reveal your identity even if it is not associated with or linked to your Personal Information."
In other words, when you use our browser, we track everything you do, and assign an "anonymous" ID number to that information. And oh, by the way, the "anonymous" ID number may be linked to your identity.
I got the message on my phone tonight to load the SkyFire beta and I did. It is indeed very quick and responsive. One the plus side, it gives the entire page formatted in the shape of the screen. When you tap something to expand it, however, it seems to expand around the spot you touched, so in some texts the borders go out of the screen. Opera mini seems to expand but also format things a bit at the same time. Zoom is limited to two steps, in and out. Overall, pretty good impressions so far, and it does not seem to interfere with any other programs.
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I got the message on my phone tonight to load the SkyFire beta and I did.
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I signed up last week and I still haven't gotten a notice..
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I signed up last week and I still haven't gotten a notice..
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Me too. Grr, I hope I get it soon, I'm getting frustrated using the other browsers, knowing this is coming out.
Netfront 3.5 is out btw.
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Me too. Grr, I hope I get it soon, I'm getting frustrated using the other browsers, knowing this is coming out.
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Did you guys check out the just released Access Netfront 3.5 beta... remember Netfront!!? and their lost-in-space 3.5 version. Well its out today.
I've posted a new thread on it in the upgrading/hacking section with its blog entry at Downloadsquad.com and its youtube video.
check it out here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367105
AJ
Skyfire Browser
I got this today. I thought I'd share it with yall.
By the way, I'm using Netfront 3.5 right now and it's great.
Both browsers are nice, i'll give an update on them after a few days.
i get the system authorization invalid..
i dont get how they can tell if the beta was sent to me yet or not, wiered..
i guess ill just have to wait
Skyfire
When did you sign up? I signed up on January 28th. What do you think so far? Give us all your thoughts and tease us a little!! I wish I had it already, maybe it wont be long untill I get mine. Kevin
I am getting the same "system authorization invalid" error, any fixes?
sky
just downloaded,it trys to connect to the net then it says to reinstall. Any ideas??
thx
Intall
Mercury
Can you go to Skyfire web site and log in and check FAQ about install issues.
Thanks
this browser still has a ways to go, but it's a great 1st step.
it definitely has a ways to go. feels slow & unresponsive to me. plus it's server side rendering through a proxy and i don't want them to know if i'm looking at bigbootybutts.com or tracking my experience to target ads at me. I'll wait for the new opera.
wow. and it can play YouTube videos all by itself. not that I care, but I am amazed.
its a pretty nifty little browser
Hm anything about the "autorization problem"?
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it definitely has a ways to go. feels slow & unresponsive to me. plus it's server side rendering through a proxy and i don't want them to know if i'm looking at bigbootybutts.com or tracking my experience to target ads at me. I'll wait for the new opera.
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hey man i hear opera 9.5 is server side rendering aswell i dont think netfront is.. can any one verify that?
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I am getting the same "system authorization invalid" error, any fixes?
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I'm having the same problems
fb401 said:
i don't want them to know if i'm looking at bigbootybutts.com
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Aha another bigbootybutts.com fan!! I knew I wasn't alone
so i guess no one cares about the privacy policy they got going...
CURRENTLY I use Dolphin Browser HD on my phone in order to download music from various sites. Well Opera Mini is nice for a few reasons but it lacks in 2 major departments and always has first off you can't do a simple User Agent Switch(this means basically making websites think that your viewing sites on a different device) which is great for sites that have limited or crappy mobile sites not going to name any lol. But that's a huge thing for me. Secondly I download various things on my phone from the usual hosting sites ie Megaupload, Rapidshare, just to name a few. But with Opera idk I guess after. The page has loaded it just stops allowing things to happen so as people that have used the above stated sites or others like it, they know that they have timers that non premium users have to wait for in order to get a download well in opera the page loads up and then the timer starts to count down then it stops at usually 22secs from 30 various sites do this any site with a timer does this in opera I'm not sure why I've tried numerous times different days etc its not my phone its the app. So these two reasons ruin Opera Mimi for me. Now Dolphin Browser is the business its only down fall is that it's a heavy and big app and it makes your phone slow down noticeable its so bad sometimes I have to over clock my phone to have a great multi tab experience with it. On opera i've had 12 tabs simultaneously running with lil-0 lag I mean there may be a minute where the phone will stutter bfor a few secs but I in dolphins if you i have like 4-6 open sometimes it'll completely free my phone up and i have to pull battery or it freezes for like 4 mins. So my question is is there any browsers on the same level as Dolphin HD or Opera Mini please let me know
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Have you tried Dolphin Mini?
Have you tried Dolphin Mini?
Have you tried Dolphin Mini?
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CURRENTLY I use Dolphin Browser HD on my phone in order to download music from various sites. Well Opera Mini is nice for a few reasons but it lacks in 2 major departments and always has first off you can't do a simple User Agent Switch(this means basically making websites think that your viewing sites on a different device) which is great for sites that have limited or crappy mobile sites not going to name any lol. But that's a huge thing for me. Secondly I download various things on my phone from the usual hosting sites ie Megaupload, Rapidshare, just to name a few. But with Opera idk I guess after. The page has loaded it just stops allowing things to happen so as people that have used the above stated sites or others like it, they know that they have timers that non premium users have to wait for in order to get a download well in opera the page loads up and then the timer starts to count down then it stops at usually 22secs from 30 various sites do this any site with a timer does this in opera I'm not sure why I've tried numerous times different days etc its not my phone its the app. So these two reasons ruin Opera Mimi for me. Now Dolphin Browser is the business its only down fall is that it's a heavy and big app and it makes your phone slow down noticeable its so bad sometimes I have to over clock my phone to have a great multi tab experience with it. On opera i've had 12 tabs simultaneously running with lil-0 lag I mean there may be a minute where the phone will stutter bfor a few secs but I in dolphins if you i have like 4-6 open sometimes it'll completely free my phone up and i have to pull battery or it freezes for like 4 mins. So my question is is there any browsers on the same level as Dolphin HD or Opera Mini please let me know
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XScope is what I've been using occasionally. I like the way it handles downloads, and I generally keep it on desktop user agent unless I need to specifically view a site in mobile.
I got fed up with Dolphin & how insanely slow and bulky it has become since the newer updates. Three tabs would cause it to force close.
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I will go with opera. It is more spartan, but support a wider range of download hosters websites. In dolphin hd all i can get are html in some sites.
Take a look into Firefox Mobile, it's still in BETA development at the moment but it's pretty packed full of features.
There is a User Agent Switch add-on called Phony which should do exactly what you need. There's also a mobile version of Adblock Plus, which many people, myself included, swear by.
If you use Firefox as your desktop browser, you'll also find it shares tabs/bookmarks/passwords seamlessly with your mobile device. I haven't taken the time to look into Download managers and such, nor anything to bypass wait time but you can guarantee if there's nothing available yet there will be shortly as Firefox has a strong extension/addon/customisation community.
I'm not currently able to post outside links (due to being a new member), but google search the highlighted text for links
Didn't. I say I use opera and don't like the it? Lol
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I will do xscope now
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I will go with opera. It is more spartan, but support a wider range of download hosters websites. In dolphin hd all i can get are html in some sites.
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Go with Opera
I use miren browser its awesome it's like a minin google chrome
what's about the new Firefox
Try Opera.
I tried almost all of them, Firefox sucks imo. Dolphin HD is good but a but sluggish.
I think Opera is the winner.
Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA telepathy.
Hi ppl in the xda hood
I just write to let you know that ChompSMS has now been flagged as malware, both on 2 phone here locally with Avast as scanner, and subsequently by upload to Virustotal, and flagged by some of the major names too.
This concerns both the 5.30 and the update from tonight to v5.31
As Im new, I cannot post urls, but you can dump the apk from both versions, upload for a scan, and have a look at the report yourself from virustotal dot com
XDA must decide if its worth it alarming the community, but better safe than sorry, right?
I guess it could be a false positive, and I do know things should not be rushed about accusations of malware developing, but seeing that several of the major scanners is flagging it both before and after the update, certainly raises my concerns.
I hope those of you who knows your way around decompiling and analyzing code will look into this, so that we can get more eyes on it than "just" the AV companies reports.
Sincerely, Omnius
After a bit of micro-investigating I have so far found these domains in the code, so if you do HAVE to use ChompSMS, (I do) you can ad them to your HOST file, just for the sake of it.
I dont know when or why they will be used but as they are in the code, there is a potential connection lurking in it. Decide for yourself, untill further ppl have a close look than mine.
Im not a dev of any sort, but I do know how to poke around to learn. Therfore please do not just take my words for granted until more competent ppl here have their say.
I do know that a few of these is for "normal" android app ads, and analytics and so on, but these are my finding so far, so filter our what you like it to connect to yourself. If you dont mind ads connections in-app, serve your wish, so to speak.
millennialmedia.com
gateway.textfreek.com
report.bitesms.com
nexage.com
inapp.chompsms.com
adserver.com
greystripe.com
smsgateway.chompsms.com
m.advc.us
cvt.mydas.mobi
rest.starttalking.com
mobileads.google.com
I used to love chompsms... now i guess I'm using GoSMS...
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All of them appear to be valid to the program. Half are ad for ads, the other half are for functionality in ChompSMS.
I would be careful on using go SMS as well.
Antivirus apps will pick up any app that by passes any normal OS use. This always has been and always will be the case.
Anything with ads will always be flagged as it connects to an unknown server.
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I would be careful on using go SMS as well.
Antivirus apps will pick up any app that by passes any normal OS use. This always has been and always will be the case.
Anything with ads will always be flagged as it connects to an unknown server.
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chomp was never flagged before the 5.30 update a few days ago...
really bothers me, i love chomp. i donated to remove the ads. i'm hoping they fixed it with 5.31 and the virus scanners are just still reporting it as a false positive. until it's sorted out though, i uninstalled...
Update : avg doesn't detect anything wrong with the newest version, 5.31.
Lemme tell you...
I noticed the new permissions requested in 5.30 (special access to browser history/bookmarks), and kinda shrugged it off. Dumb move on my part. Immediately upon launching 5.30, I get a notification from ADWLauncher that it cannot fit a new shortcut on my desktop (because the main page was full). So I'm naturally all like WTF... so I flip through my desktop pages to notice that ChompSMS had made itself a shortcut to searchmobileonline.com.
I also heard that it replaces your default browser home page and search method with the same. I use xScope exclusively, so I haven't been able to check that yet.
Delicious, Inc. has really crossed the line with this latest stunt. What were they thinking!? ChompSMS was the best Android messaging app IMHO. Why jeopardize such a great reputation? If it's money they were after, I'd imagine they could've raked in a nice bundle of cash for selling the product to another company.
Does anyone have a copy of this apk that I could take a look at?
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I used to love chompsms... now i guess I'm using GoSMS...
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Does anyone have a copy of this apk that I could take a look at?
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I know this is a old thread but better than starting a new one.
I would like to ask if there is any news on this. I love chomp SMS, imo the best messanger for my taste. I have bought the pro version, to stay away from ads and unnecessary internet data. I have chomp on a brand new phone, no sim card, no messages, just activated chomp and my firewall instantly found chomp active on internet. I watched this for some time and really chomp was trying to do something even I did nothing with it.
important note: there is no data mining in any of their terms. Or at least I did not find anything.
So I contacted chomp about the behavior and they said that "they never seen this before" and suggested reinstall. I did, didn't help.
On the second try, they told me that it is connecting because of ads, but I had the pro version (and they knew it). So no luck.
After the third attempt, they said that chomp is sending once a day info that it is installed so they know how many installs they have.
This sucks a lot. Security concerns appears instantly.
I think it would be worthy to literally sniff a bit around this, since so many people is using chomp.
I've heard many comments about JB being smooth and fast interface wise, what about its browser performance (be it stock or 3rd party)?
I personally hesitate to switch to JB from CleanRom because JB is not yet mature and I'm the kind of person who just wants everything to work (a bug kind of annoys me even if it doesn't affect me, is there anybody out there who's like me ?) But the thing I really hate about ICS (tried many roms and browsers and various tweaks) and HOX is the browsing performance. I don't care what the benchmark numbers say (I've personally benched mine and the numbers are all inline with the published numbers), I just want a half-close-to desktop experience on the phone when it comes to browsing speed. I mean our phone is equipped with such cutting edge components and all I want is for a website to load in a couple of seconds (or what about 3, or even 4) , consistently. But more often than not, that progress bar just keeps crawling and crawling and you just wonder what the heck it's doing. It's not the internet speed, as speedtest shows consistently fast speed on both wifi and LTE. That means the data of the websites has no problem reaching the phone, but the phone simply struggles to render the pages, even with all the power of the snapdragons.
Can I hope that the upcoming JB roms (after HTC releases official JB upgrade) can fix or at least improve this issue?
I dont have any problems browsing on chrome cleanrom 4.5. What sites give you problem? I havent had any rendering problems.
But yeah, JB browser is a lot faster.
You're just being incredibly paranoid, and you even mention it how the smallest of bugs will bother you. What you are mentioning about the loading bar getting stuck, has nothing to do with your connection, or even your phone. It's usually caused by advertisement networks on the websites you visit.. You see, when you visit a website, chrome requests data literally hundreds of times from multiple sources. Ad networks, jquery calls, and other page elements will naturally take longer to be served since they're coming from different servers in different locations.
It's the same on iOS, but safari makes it look like the page is done loading... But it's really not, just check the spinning thing next to the carrier name.
So, unless you have specific, reproducible examples to show us that chrome is "simply struggling to render pages", I have to say it's not that. Sit back, relax and enjoy the awesome browsing experience on the One X. The Chrome experience on Jelly Bean is exactly the same.
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It's usually caused by advertisement networks on the websites you visit.. You see, when you visit a website, chrome requests data literally hundreds of times from multiple sources. Ad networks, jquery calls, and other page elements will naturally take longer to be served since they're coming from different servers in different locations.
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You will notice it when you use Chrome on the desktop too. While a page loads, it will say "waiting for blahblah.com" and it's usually some sort of ad site.
I haven't noticed much of a difference between my HOX and my N7. As noted, it really has more to do with the sites you visit.
If your phone is rooted, you can always install and ad-blocker on your phone.
Through an ip blacklist, this will allow your phone to block known advertising companies. For web and in-app advertising.
Not only does it stop the whole "in your face" advertising, but it will also speed up page loads and save you data etc.
I use AdAway personally.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/..._result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5hZGF3YXkiXQ..
AdFree Android is too
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5iaWd0aW5jYW4uYW5kcm9pZC5hZGZyZWUiXQ..
AdBlock Plus for Chrome on PC:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb
I've been on MIUI 2.8.24 v3 for a few days now, and it's noticeably faster. Like you said, JB is still in its infancy so there's plenty of work, but its stable enough that I've had no problems using it daily for the past few days. The real problems I've experienced are in MIUI themselves. Like others have said, CleanROM or another highly refined ROM will probably run pretty darn well.
I don't really know if anyone has had a similar issue but I figured I'd try to at least not feel completely alone. Without fail, if I navigate to www.grantland.com on my phone it will "load" about halfway and then crash back to home. I've found the stock browser com.android.browser does this on some sites but obviously not all. I'm guessing that it is something that their website is attempting to do that the browser doesn't exactly like. It also happens on Dolphin HD. I've attempted to logcat the error, but either I'm not trying to capture the right information or it just doesn't want to give it to me.
I've tried "logcat WebCore:V *:S" "logcat browser:V *:S" and "logcat com.android.browser". I believe the first two are aiming to capture any javascript that is happening. At any rate the only information I could get is on the last version. I've posted that on pastebin here http://pastebin.com/rjgDHT4e. There is a longer version of the logcat, but this was about the only worthwhile information I could find.
I'm running AOKP Milestone 6 Build 5. It has also happened on CM9.1 R7 and R8
From what I've read it could be just a general bug in the android browser
I *hope* it happens to everyone else and not just me, but there's always the chance that I'm completely off the reservation and one step closer to breaking my phone.
Looks like it crashed in libIMGegl.so -- so, at least for me under Boat Browser it seems to be pretty low level.
It doesn't surprise me that most browsers behave the same as most reuse the sysyem-supplied rendering engines.
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Looks like it crashed in libIMGegl.so -- so, at least for me under Boat Browser it seems to be pretty low level.
It doesn't surprise me that most browsers behave the same as most reuse the sysyem-supplied rendering engines.
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I kinda figured that on the browsers. Same thing with SMS apps. Basically just an add on to the base app for more functionality or options. I presume since it is fairly low level its just something I'll have to deal with unless I figure out a way to delve in to that. Experience in that area isn't high. Always looking to learn though.
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Same thing happens here https://viewmypaycheck.intuit.com/ lol
While not all website operators are receptive, reminding them that mobile access is critical to their business and there are more Android devices out there than iPhones sometimes precipitates change.