[VIDEOS] Good look into the INFINITY & NOTE10.1 [COMPARISONS] - Asus Transformer TF700

VIDEO COMPARISONS BETWEEN TWO TOP TEER TABLETS:
Asus Transformer Pad Infinity(TF700T) & Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1​
This was created to give people an overall view of how these two tablets perform doing similar tasks and to aid in giving you a better view for those curious about these two tablets. These devices are best of the best compared to the rest of the Android tablets in the market today. Both appeal to the masses. Which one you go for is completely up to your needs. Hopefully this will help out the people still undecided. (Thanks BarryH_GEG for your videos on the Note 10.1 I also apologies for the background noises coming from my 2 and 5 year old daughters in a few of the videos)
(Be sure to set it to 1080p and keep in mind that loading/buffering from the Infinity will take a little longer because of the FHD screen)
- Note 10.1 & Infinity both running ICS -
Scrolling/Swipping/General use
NOTE 10.1
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INFINITY
YOUTUBE 1080p(Web browser)
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NOTE 10.1
INFINITY
HBOGO (Web Browser)
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NOTE 10.1
INFINITY
XDA (Web browser)
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NOTE 10.1
INFINITY
NETFLIX
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NOTE 10.1
INFINITY

jjdevega said:
These devices are best of the best compared to the rest of the Android tablets in the market today.
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Thanks so much for taking the time to put those together. I'd say general use and YouTube in a browser were pretty comparable. You can see the TF700 stuttering some in the other browser tests and the Netflix test. You pulled up HBO GO and XDA from your favorites without clearing the cache first which makes a difference. They’re both very content heavy sites and having to load all that content initially is a lot of work for the browser and h/w.
In the end they are both great devices, neither without compromises. And a lot of people would never consider the Note because of the lower res display and lack of options like the extended battery via the dock, the dock itself, and additional ports. It’s great to have choices.
P.S. – The empty space on your home screens makes me feel embarrassed by the clutter of mine.

BarryH_GEG said:
Thanks so much for taking the time to put those together. I'd say general use and YouTube in a browser were pretty comparable. You can see the TF700 stuttering some in the other browser tests and the Netflix test. You pulled up HBO GO and XDA from your favorites without clearing the cache first which makes a difference. They’re both very content heavy sites and having to load all that content initially is a lot of work for the browser and h/w.
In the end they are both great devices, neither without compromises. And a lot of people would never consider the Note because of the lower res display and lack of options like the extended battery via the dock, the dock itself, and additional ports. It’s great to have choices.
P.S. – The empty space on your home screens makes me feel embarrassed by the clutter of mine.
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On HBOGO, every time i cleared data and all, I would have to resign in. How are you able to go through hbogo without having to sign in? So The only difference with my video to yours was after I had cleared all I signed in and closed it. Then ran the comparison. Xda I had bookmarked but I cleared all data to it. So nothing different from your video. I'll do another test on the XDA video with me clearing everything. I apparently did not video that part.
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I removed my 35 widgets after the comparison. I don't like to much stuff going on
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jjdevega said:
I'll do another test on the XDA video with me clearing everything.
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You don't have to do that. Samsung's always done a better job than everyone else at optimizing their browsers. As an example, the Exynos SGS3 eats my Teg3 One X's lunch at every browsing benchmark and their screen resolution is almost identical. The TF700's at a disadvantage right from the start because of the additional pixels its pushing. The browsing performance of the TF700 is close to or even behind the TF300 in some tests because of that. It's the price you pay for that clear text and those pretty pictures.

Yep, I'm here again. I guess no one seems to have mentioned about audio here at all. Not one peep about it. As I've said MANY times before you'll notice the speaker placement of the Infinity. You may need your glasses to actually see that small, tiny, little speaker that is ON THE BACK of the tablet facing AWAY from you so you really can't hear it.
The Samsung's REAL speakers are right on the front facing you and they happen to be real stereo seperation since they are actually seperated. The sound compared is night and day. While you need to keep the Infinity's speaker volume on max all the time just to hear it a little you'll really appreciate the Samsung's speaker quality and placement. Everyone is so hooked up on video and forgot all about audio.

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Yep, I'm here again. I guess no one seems to have mentioned about audio here at all. Not one peep about it. As I've said MANY times before you'll notice the speaker placement of the Infinity. You may need your glasses to actually see that small, tiny, little speaker that is ON THE BACK of the tablet facing AWAY from you so you really can't hear it.
The Samsung's REAL speakers are right on the front facing you and they happen to be real stereo seperation since they are actually seperated. The sound compared is night and day. While you need to keep the Infinity's speaker volume on max all the time just to hear it a little you'll really appreciate the Samsung's speaker quality and placement. Everyone is so hooked up on video and forgot all about audio.
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I hardly use the internal speakers. When I do I just use Volume+ and problem solved. I don't need to even have the volume set to max barely 40% is loud enough. Most of the time I use my LG Tone - HBS-700 BT Headset. I like the idea of being able to go to the next room and hear what I'm listening to in private and my kids hearing inappropriate things when I watch my movies or anime is avoided completely. I also have an portable BT speaker that has rechargeable Li-ion battery that aids in long road trips to extend the battery life of my tablet since I'm not using its internal speakers. You would be amazed of how little I use the internal speakers for listening. Internal speakers/Volume is no issue for me.
I understand what your saying though... The Notes 10.1 speakers are pretty darn nice!
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Which is also why I'm assuming you don't hear much talk about speakers being a huge hindrance.
(I like how you made some of your words in CAPS)
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Opentoe!! I didn't realize that it was you! Welcome back! You were MIA for awhile there...
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jjdevega said:
I hardly use the internal speakers. When I do I just use Volume+ and problem solved. I don't need to even have the volume set to max barely 40% is loud enough. Most of the time I use my LG Tone - HBS-700 BT Headset. I like the idea of being able to go to the next room and hear what I'm listening to in private and my kids hearing inappropriate things when I watch my movies or anime is avoided completely. I also have an portable BT speaker that has rechargeable Li-ion battery that aids in long road trips to extend the battery life of my tablet since I'm not using its internal speakers. You would be amazed of how little I use the internal speakers for listening. Internal speakers/Volume is no issue for me.
I understand what your saying though... The Notes 10.1 speakers are pretty darn nice!
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Which is also why I'm assuming you don't hear much talk about speakers being a huge hindrance.
(I like how you made some of your words in CAPS)
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Opentoe!! I didn't realize that it was you! Welcome back! You were MIA for awhile there...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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The last thing I want to do is carry around external block speakers with my $600 tablet. It is a little funny to me. Most people that buy the Asus Infinity tablet will go about and buy a keyboard for it, along with external speakers. They are trying to make it right into a laptop. The thing they are used to. We all know one day we'll be able to run Android on an Intel PC. One day.

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Describe Everyday use?

Benchmarks aside, cause I know people here put it through the ringer...
What is the everyday use of this thing like performance wise, such as surfing, moving between screens and apps, etc.
Works like a charm. Been using it every day for 2 weeks. Sometimes you get some short lags from the io problem, but for my use I seldom notice it.
A lot of reading. RSS, Pocket, Ebooks, XDA.
Watching some films while travelling or on Sunday morning in the bed.
Some writing.
I hardly ever play games on any of my mobile devices.
All the above works very well for me except Google Currents which lags like hell in landscape mode.
I am awaiting for mine. I have a Sony Tablet S to hold me over. I literally beat it up. I'm on it around the clock at work and home, into the wee hours of the night. Can't wait to battle test my Infinity the same way.
I've had the Sony for 2 months and logged almost 800 hours..
thephreak99 said:
Works like a charm. Been using it every day for 2 weeks. Sometimes you get some short lags from the io problem, but for my use I seldom notice it.
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I upgraded from the TF101 and so far, this blows it away (which is what I would expect). I haven't had any significant lag or freezes, everything seems to run very smoothly. Browsing is definately a significant improvement. I would get a number of lags browsing sites like Facebook from my TF101, this scrolls through it like butter.
My only complaint would be that some apps are not ready for primetime with the new 1920x1200 resolution. Some apps, like IMBD work just fine, but the font size is very small. Not a huge problem right now, but I suspect these apps will need to be adjusted over time. Thumb Keyboard also had very small fonts on the keyboard itself, but that was adjustable at least.
Some other apps are more problematic....for example, I fell in love with Go Launcher HD for Tablets on my TF101. Works fine on the TF700, however some of the widgets/icons overlapp the controls at the top of the screen. I couldn't find a combination of grids-size that would work for me, so I went back to the stock launch for now.
I suspect all these things will get worked by the app developers as these higher resolution displays take off....
-Chris
Guys, thanks so much, I appreciate it.
This is what I was looking for.
Every android tab has pro's and con's.
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
Although the tablet should work out of the box for the money, this still seems like it will be what I am looking for just to browse, listen to music, GPS, etc.
Thanks
lardo5150 said:
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
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That's my opinion too.
You pay a lot of money so you can expect ASUS to fix it and rumor has they are on it.
But although I'm not that of an ASUS fand I think the buzz is a bit too much overreacting.
lardo5150 said:
Guys, thanks so much, I appreciate it.
This is what I was looking for.
Every android tab has pro's and con's.
I am aware of the I/O issue, but as my coworker said to me this morning when discussing it "how many times will you be copying files to it or downloading?"
Although the tablet should work out of the box for the money, this still seems like it will be what I am looking for just to browse, listen to music, GPS, etc.
Thanks
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Without using one extensively, I'd have to say I agree with that line of thought. Every time I've seen a prime or TF300 display model, I've tried to force it into giving me an ANR in the browser. Every time I've been unsuccessful.
I'm looking for something I can browse the web with, handle email, and create/edit office documents. I admit I'm going to be harder on it than most since I'm setting up a debian chroot on it for libreoffice, but even then I have a hard time seeing the low IO benchmarking being a big issue.
There's a thread in the Prime section asking about how satisfied people are with their tablet, and while the posts themselves are very vocally negative, the poll results show an 80% complete satisfaction rate. I think that speaks for itself.
Jotokun said:
Without using one extensively, I'd have to say I agree with that line of thought. Every time I've seen a prime or TF300 display model, I've tried to force it into giving me an ANR in the browser. Every time I've been unsuccessful.
I'm looking for something I can browse the web with, handle email, and create/edit office documents. I admit I'm going to be harder on it than most since I'm setting up a debian chroot on it for libreoffice, but even then I have a hard time seeing the low IO benchmarking being a big issue.
There's a thread in the Prime section asking about how satisfied people are with their tablet, and while the posts themselves are very vocally negative, the poll results show an 80% complete satisfaction rate. I think that speaks for itself.
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The people enjoying the tablet are too busy actually using it and getting on with their lives instead of spending their life complaining about it on the forums. I'm sure for 90% of people, this tablet is fine in it's current state, and the other 10% will get an update to fix issues.
As I said in other posts, not only one or two but pretty much all the major sites list Transformer Infinity as the best Android Tablet. General consensus of losing a point on reviews seem to be the complain of android ecosystem not having dedicated tablet apps. So yeah I am sure the I/O issue is real and would certainly be nice to have it fixed. But if it is truly a problem for majority people for their daily use, you would think it won't be rated as the best tablet.
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.
KilerG said:
The people enjoying the tablet are too busy actually using it and getting on with their lives instead of spending their life complaining about it on the forums. I'm sure for 90% of people, this tablet is fine in it's current state, and the other 10% will get an update to fix issues.
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I've had the same experience. When I've used the display models (as an attempt to check out the tf700), I see stuttering only on crazy long/big websites, but no ANRs from i/o.
My hope is this hardware will help with some of that. I get it tomorrow, can't wait!
- Chilly
HoushaSen said:
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.
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Please report back, cause I will be doing the same with PDF's for Microsoft books.
HoushaSen said:
As I said in other posts, not only one or two but pretty much all the major sites list Transformer Infinity as the best Android Tablet. General consensus of losing a point on reviews seem to be the complain of android ecosystem not having dedicated tablet apps. So yeah I am sure the I/O issue is real and would certainly be nice to have it fixed. But if it is truly a problem for majority people for their daily use, you would think it won't be rated as the best tablet.
Having said that mine is waiting at home. So I'll know how it functions. I don't play games on it, but I do push the device to certain extreme for what I do such as opening massively large EPUB, PDF files. So let you all know my experience.
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I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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What is causing the rendering? Is it cause of the high resolution and the T3?
Nebucatnetzer said:
I can already tell you that high res pdfs are rendering quite slow.
Epubs with a lot of text are no problem.
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I had the same problem with my TF300T but using adobe's official adobe reader app fixed it quite a bit (still a slight lag). Overall performance was about equal between my TF300T and Ipad 2 (goodreader) in terms of reading PDF's. I imagine, the TF700 might be a bit slower because of the higher res. Optimization should fix it though. 4 cores are meant for rendering.
I don't know what the problem is.
However it's not fast but still a lot better then on the TF101 which couldn't handle that PDF at all.
It feels like it's especially slow when there are many or one big picture on the page. The PDF ist 76 MB though so I don't know if it's fair to use it on a tablet.
I won't be able to test until later but I know different app are totally different. One that I found the fastest were mantano and ezPDF. As for ePub, iBook did good job except initial loading took a bit of time whereas mantano flew as long as I turned off TOC page assignment. So I am hoping this is now faster with quad core comparing to my old galaxy 10.1 dual core
I can't remember the name for the pdf app because I just bought it recently. It's IMO faster the ezPDF.
Edit: It's RepliGo PDF Reader.
For ePUB I'm using Aldiko which works pretty well especially together with Aldiko Sync.
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I'm using RepliGo for 150+MB pdfs with scanned pages every day and it's been doing really fine so far, especially compared to the competition (I'd say iAnnotate comes second). I'm opening these files both from internal storage and microSD. And I just love reading from Infinity's screen.
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I'm using RepliGo for 150+MB pdfs with scanned pages every day and it's been doing really fine so far, especially compared to the competition (I'd say iAnnotate comes second). I'm opening these files both from internal storage and microSD. And I just love reading from Infinity's screen.
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Does it load fast for you? I often experience a bit of a pause until everything is sharp. It prevents it a bit from being a fluid reading experience for me.
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Does anyone have anything GOOD to say?

Mostly all I see here are complaints about this and that. Does anyone have anything good to say about the Infinity?
It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
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jdeoxys said:
It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
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For you, yeah, but my pad's coming in a lot of days.
Mine will be arriving on Wednesday, I hope I can add a few positive things.
My keyboard dock arrived on Friday, and while its just a prime dock (since it seems there's no difference between the two I saw no reason to wait for an infinity dock) I cant get over how thin it is. Considering it has a battery in it, I was expecting it to be at least twice as thick. This beast of a tablet is going to look amazing docked.
Awesome screen! But you knew that already...
Battery life is impressive.
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It's arriving tomorrow. That's good, right?
Sent from my 3d porn machine.
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The same here, can't wait to get this guy today! It actually left Oakland VERY early Saturday morning on the 130 mile trip north to Ukiah (the UPS "Hub" for Mendocino and Lake Counties), so it's been sitting there all weekend, now for a 9 mile trip north today on a pretty, brown van to my doorstep in Redwood Valley
Lots of good things to say, but I'm too busy enjoying the tablet for that. I need the vent the frustration arising from the issues, however.
To give it a shot: everything except I/O? Just kidding, as far as phrasing goes. The two most impressive points: the screen is great (brightness is very high, definition is great), and the keyboard is pretty good for a mobile keyboard (even gets you a set of shortcut keys; it took Logitech years to think of that) and provides significant extra run time.
OK, now I'm off to the beach. :laugh:
MartyHulskemper said:
Lots of good things to say, but I'm too busy enjoying the tablet for that. I need the vent the frustration arising from the issues, however.
To give it a shot: everything except I/O? Just kidding, as far as phrasing goes. The two most impressive points: the screen is great (brightness is very high, definition is great), and the keyboard is pretty good for a mobile keyboard (even gets you a set of shortcut keys; it took Logitech years to think of that) and provides significant extra run time.
OK, now I'm off to the beach. :laugh:
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Where ya at? It's pitch black over on our Mendocino Coast http://www.visitmendocino.com
Theshawty said:
Mostly all I see here are complaints about this and that. Does anyone have anything good to say about the Infinity?
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Nope.
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Nope.
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wow...
Jotokun said:
Mine will be arriving on Wednesday, I hope I can add a few positive things.
My keyboard dock arrived on Friday, and while its just a prime dock (since it seems there's no difference between the two I saw no reason to wait for an infinity dock) I cant get over how thin it is. Considering it has a battery in it, I was expecting it to be at least twice as thick. This beast of a tablet is going to look amazing docked.
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Are you saying that you're gonna use the dock from a Prime with your Infinity Tab ?
I didn't think that was possible.
http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-infinity/specification/
Just below the picture of the keyboard dock...
"(The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)"
I'm posting this with my Infinity, which I've had for 4 solid days now. There are a couple niggling things, one being the speaker placement, the other being the occasional IO hiccup. Other than that, it works very well. I'm quite happy with it thus far. I have it tethered via my phone here on my desk at work for personal stuff that is blocked by work, and it does everything I need it to. The screen is great, sharp, good colors, the included Asus widgets and Asus settings are very handy.
Like was mentioned, the keyboard has it's own shortcuts and settings keys, all of which make it perfect for what I use it for.
I use it for skyping with my wife (assigned overseas), netflix while cooking (where the speaker placement is an issue for low volume shows on netflix) exercising, etc, keeping up with forums, groupme, twitter, facebook, quick internet access while gaming...
It does all of this well. This was an upgrade to my Kindle Fire while I'll hardly use from now on, and hand it down to one of the kids.
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dusanzk said:
Are you saying that you're gonna use the dock from a Prime with your Infinity Tab ?
I didn't think that was possible.
http://eee.asus.com/en/eeepad/transformer-infinity/specification/
Just below the picture of the keyboard dock...
"(The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)"
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That may be the official web site, but that's just plain not correct. Take a look in the main thread, there's currently a big discussion over how the only difference between the two is the box.
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Agree with above, only trouble is I/o and single weak speaker. Otherwise this tab is quality build, sexyscreen, and snappy as hell. I recommend it. I'm not sure where the idea that all reviews are bad come from. Once we get unlocked boot loader I can only see things improving.
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Yeah.. I love this Tablet. I love everything about it.. except I wish there was more stock keyboard choices! lol
I think most happy users are happily using it. Those that are unhappy talk about it a lot, and likely in multiple places. So the appearance is a ton of complaints. It's a common thing with internet forums. Most of the installed base are silent, while the majority of those speaking out are the unhappy ones.
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Good things
I have had my Infinity since Friday. I bought the Prime when it first came out and returned it 28 days later due to multiple issues that are still not fixed today.
The Infinity seems to be a first class device.
Positives.
Runs Android not IOS.
Screen is superb. Very bright and very clear. It is wonderful having HD display.
WiFi is excellent. have used it in multiple networks and have not had any issues.
GPS works flawlessly.
My Prime keyboard DOC that I could not return works with the Infinity.
Free 8GB cloud storage included with the Infinity through Asus Web Storage.
negative
I can not stream Netflix when using a bluetooth headset. I get constant buffering. Using a wired headset though works flawlessly.
During initial setup when I was installing all my apps from the play store. Shortcuts were automatically being put on my home screen. If I happened to be deleting a shortcut at the same time as one was being set to my home screen the launcher would quit and restart. This may be due to the IO issue discussed in depth.
I am very happy with the infinity.
Had to lead an outdoor event yesterday and ran it off my Infinity. the Super IPS+ lived up to its rep. I was in direct sunlight and had no trouble reading what I had there.
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During initial setup when I was installing all my apps from the play store. Shortcuts were automatically being put on my home screen. If I happened to be deleting a shortcut at the same time as one was being set to my home screen the launcher would quit and restart. This may be due to the IO issue discussed in depth.
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you have to turn this off in the Play store. in settings, uncheck "Auto add Widgets"
The screen is excellent
The additional storage options with dock are great (I have 96gb total in my machine now)
The dock works great and makes typing much better
The wifi is working great
Smooth UI

Simple thread.....3 Pro's and 3 Con's

Before I purchase the Infinity (I have been taking deep breathes since July 16), I am actually waiting for the new rooCase that will fit this device. So, to help me justify this $500 purchase, please reply with your 3 Pro's and 3 Con's about this device. No need for a long drawn out review, unless of course you want to!
CAVEAT: Please do not reply to this thread unless you have been using this device for more than 5 days!
Thanks all.
1.) The screen is absolutely wonderful, I can't point this out enough. And with the IPS+ mode, it's bright enough to use in daylight.
2.) The battery life. In power saving mode, you'll easily get 7-8 hours of moderate use (internet browsing/watching films). With the dock, you'll get at least that long even with moderate/heavy use.
3.) The dock. Seriously, sometimes you just need a real keyboard and touchpad. Also, it's nice to have the capability to use USB drives and old full-size SD cards
Moving on,
1.) The infamous I/O issues. The thing stutters if you try to do anything while downloading or copying files.
2.) The camera. It's horrible. It's supposed to be 8MP but the photos look far worse than my Galaxy S3. Furthermore, you look ridiculous using a 10" device to take photos. don't bother.
3.) The "speakers". There's only one, it's on the right side (so you might cover it with your hand by accident), and it's facing the wrong way. You need headphones or real speakers to properly enjoy the audio quality this thing is capable of outputting.
ZankerH said:
1.) The screen is absolutely wonderful, I can't point this out enough. And with the IPS+ mode, it's bright enough to use in daylight.
2.) The battery life. In power saving mode, you'll easily get 7-8 hours of moderate use (internet browsing/watching films). With the dock, you'll get at least that long even with moderate/heavy use.
3.) The dock. Seriously, sometimes you just need a real keyboard and touchpad. Also, it's nice to have the capability to use USB drives and old full-size SD cards
Moving on,
1.) The infamous I/O issues. The thing stutters if you try to do anything while downloading or copying files.
2.) The camera. It's horrible. It's supposed to be 8MP but the photos look far worse than my Galaxy S3. Furthermore, you look ridiculous using a 10" device to take photos. don't bother.
3.) The "speakers". There's only one, it's on the right side (so you might cover it with your hand by accident), and it's facing the wrong way. You need headphones or real speakers to properly enjoy the audio quality this thing is capable of outputting.
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I don't think you can say more than this. The thing is very fast (minus when installing apps. Downloading had been fine for me so far). The games that take full advantage of the hardware are beautiful.
The camera is okay, a little better than on my Bionic in most conditions. But, yes, you look like a total idiot using something this big as a camera.
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[Q] what should l do?? What should l choose?

Ok, to make a long story short. I handed in my prime for RMA and got offered to alternatives , a TF700 or a samsung note 10.1.
Now , I had really ****ty experience with the prime. Primarily wi fi issues, but the performance in general was rubbish. With that said there were many aspects of the prime that l liked, Such as the keyboard and battery time.
My question is what are the known issues that with the note 10.1 and it's main drawbacks?
Keyboard isn't a must, nor is the pen, though l would love both! I could in short go for either.
It's kinda time urgent , I only have a few days to decide.
Help?
Thanks in advance!
The note is superior to tf700 in every way except screen resolution. I exchanged 3 tf700 then tried the note, the results is obvious. I only regret not taking the 3g version.
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Could you be a bit more detailed?
There are no drawbacks as the software is more refined in every way and the hardware is solid and future proof atleast for year or two
But there only difference is the body and the screen resolution
Apart from that it is better then prime or any other tablet in the market even N10 once it gets JB the reason being the world class developement done by Samsung on the OS
The screen on tf700 was deformed, not well fixed on edges. Less ram, only 1 gb, no dualband n Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth 4, low end internal storage, not as fluent as the note. Much better battery on the note. A lot of random reboots on stock tf700, none on the note.
I have changed the 3 Asus after using each one for a few days. I admit that the resolution was great, but the note is a better tablet overall.
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And the price to in India the prime is almost 200 dollars more expensive
the prime? Don't think it factors in as such into my question... Kinda keen on Tf 700 vs Note 10.1
I've read tons of reviews and they go both ways , but it seems the TF700 comes ahead a lot of the time. That's the confusing part. I've tested both in the store, with no clear winner. Screen on Tf is great and they both felt snappy. The pen on the Samsung was fun to use and accurate, but testet a few pens on the transformer and they were pretty good as well. Big issue is 1 gb DDR3 vs 2GB ddr2 , and Tegra vs Exynos. Kinda a bummer considering games and certain apps are tegra focused .
But the old Prime is still in the back of my mind, I\O performance etc...
BUT A BIG DRAW BACK WITH SAMSUNG, I can't plug in a HDMI and USB cable at the same time... kinda need it from time to time ( external drive and HDMI, or game controller and HDMI or...)
I think almost everyone that owns a Note 10.1 went through the same decision. And newer owners are also factoring in the Nexus 10. Obviously the people in this forum chose the Note. You'd get other opinions from forums dedicated to those devices and I suggest you ask and look in those too.
For me, the decision was easy. I dd look at the Asus forums as well as here. In the Asus forums there are tons of post of people having problems. Granted, people with problems tend to find forums. But why do you not see people here posting about problems? The few you do see are mostly folks that tried to either root or flash their units and didn't read the instructions fully. Sure you'll find an occasional legit problem post, but they are so few and far between that it's an effort to find them. That's not the case in the Asus forums.
I spent a lot of money for the Note 10.1. I bought it before any of the recent price drops. I have no buyers remorse at all.
Well good to know. I've posted a similar thread in the ASUS forum just in case, but response has been limited. The big issue l have with the Samsung is lack of ports and weaker battery compared to the ASUS. wouldn't mind a keyboard, but seen that there are dozens of keyboard folios and so on....but again one comes to the issue of battery being drained ( in this case by the bluetooth)
I'm on the fence , 50-50 so that's why I was looking for personal experience with the unit(s). I kinda missed the mark with the Prime , so don't want to mess up again.
BTW I see it mentioned a dozen places, how is the support from Samsung, ie updates etc....?
I owed a prime and had all the bad experiences. I read and read before getting another tablet and everything pointed at the infinity, so I got one. Had it a little over a week and noticed lag from time to time, but nothing major, until I bought the new need for speed... geez, it's unplayable on the infinity. I pulled it up on my note 2 and its flying. So I returned it and got the note 10.1. It flies! The screen is the only advantage the infinity have
I've owned the Transformer Prime for almost a year and I had the Transformer Infinity for about a month before I traded it for a Galaxy Note 10.1.
The memory issues with the transformers is really bad, when you use the browser it constantly hangs and gives ANRs (App not responding). It is basically unusable in the browser. I had the same problem with the Prime and the Infinity, it happens more often when you have multiple apps running.
I debated it for a long time because I really wanted the high resolution, but once I got the Note 10.1 I knew within a day that I made the right choice. Everything works as it should, everything is faster and smoother, graphics intensive games like N.O.V.A. and Dead Trigger actually run better (N.O.V.A was unplayable on the Infinity because it lagged so much). The screen isn't as good, but it isn't worth the issues you have to deal with on the Transformer line.
I used the keyboard dock on the Infinity and loved taking notes in school with it, but since I got the Note 10.1 I started taking notes with the S-Pen and I carry a bluetooth keyboard just in case I need it. I've liked taking notes with the S-Pen so much that I never even use the keyboard anymore.
As a previous prime owner of 8 months, id have to say i have no regrets
What i miss
-usb slot
-full sd slot
-hdmi
-extra battery
What i dont miss
-anr
-wifi/bluetooth issues
-slow playstore install/uninstall
-the cheap buttons on keyboard(one snapped off, too easilly)
The things i wish the note has but doesnt
-a decent port connected keyboard with, hdmi, usb, sd card
The comprimises
-usb/sd card adapter
-allcast(when sammy finally gets its finger out its bum).......stream game over wifi, while using bluetooth gamepad/keyboard/mouse
As a prevoius prime owner yourself, i think your in a position to appreciate this phrase "it just works"......and thats the main thing that makes the things ive lost bearable, trust me its a relief......another thing i like is that it feels more sturdy,
If you can find a tf700 without daily issues, then i'd say go for that, but me i wont trust their quality control on the tablet front for a while
On a side note, battery on the note, even without the extra battery is commendable..........at least 10h constant use on avarage......thats brightness dim, powersave on......by the way powersave is pretty impressive to (limit to1000mhz), no hiccups.
Just to reiterate what banderos101 said,
I'm a former TF101 owner (the original transformer from asus), and I miss the same things he misses. In addition, my transformer often had weird stutterings that may or may not have been associated with the roms I used on it (but it had them on stock too before I rooted and flashed custom roms).
That said, I don't know much about the TF700, but you probably should pick it based on what your primary usage will be. I got the Note instead of another transformer tablet because I take notes using a pen (physics is hard to type notes for) and because it has 2gb RAM. Also, the screen resolution doesn't matter to me much because it didn't put me in shock and awe when I used my friends' iPad retinas and TF700's, but maybe that's because I'm nearsighted.
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Well good to know. I've posted a similar thread in the ASUS forum just in case, but response has been limited. The big issue l have with the Samsung is lack of ports and weaker battery compared to the ASUS. wouldn't mind a keyboard, but seen that there are dozens of keyboard folios and so on....but again one comes to the issue of battery being drained ( in this case by the bluetooth)
I'm on the fence , 50-50 so that's why I was looking for personal experience with the unit(s). I kinda missed the mark with the Prime , so don't want to mess up again.
BTW I see it mentioned a dozen places, how is the support from Samsung, ie updates etc....?
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I'll come at this from a completely different perspective from everyone on this thread. I have an Acer A500. Had it for a few years. Sunday night, my wonderful children decided I needed a new tablet so they dropped my acer out of the car. Off to the store! LOL! I'm not dedicated to any brand at all. I want cheap and as much bang for the buck as I can get. My 2 contenders were the same as yours. Asus Infinity vs Samsung Note. The real question you have to ask is what do you really want the tablet for? What do you expect to get out of the experience? No matter what you read here, the Asus is a better tablet than the Samsung. It has a visibly better screen. It has more storage for the dollar. IE, the 32gb Asus is the same price as the 16GB Samsung. The processor is slightly faster, but the Asus has a 5th independent low power processor that allows it to run much less power therefore slightly longer battery in real world. Average test is about 8 hours for the Samsung, 10 for the Asus.
The Asus also allows you to add the keyboard with an additional battery in the keyboard as well as full sized USB ports etc. So if you are looking for a laptop replacement, it's hard to beat. Now, you're probably asking, why am I putting all this in the Samsung thread?
I bought the Samsung. Why? Because the #1 thing I need from my tablet is the ability to take handwritten notes in meetings and it has to be easy and fast. Bottom line is, the digitizer system on the Note is unbeatable. Period. The Asus can't touch it. The Note is a great screen versus an amazing screen. It's nearly as fast processor wise, 1.4GHz vs 1.6GHz. So while the Asus in my mind is a better tablet, the Samsung Note is better for what I need. And by better I mean, lightyears better. There isn't a tablet on the market that can touch the Note for writing. It is truly paper and pencil good. But if you don't care about that, the Asus is a little better in a lot of ways.
I get 14 hours on the note on regular use, the record being 16 (talking about screen+ WiFi active, not about stand-by). With tf700 i had 11 hours with the first one, the other 2 devices never more than 8 hours (all without the dock, i did not buy one).
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I'll come at this from a completely different perspective from everyone on this thread. I have an Acer A500. Had it for a few years. Sunday night, my wonderful children decided I needed a new tablet so they dropped my acer out of the car. Off to the store! LOL! I'm not dedicated to any brand at all. I want cheap and as much bang for the buck as I can get. My 2 contenders were the same as yours. Asus Infinity vs Samsung Note. The real question you have to ask is what do you really want the tablet for? What do you expect to get out of the experience? No matter what you read here, the Asus is a better tablet than the Samsung. It has a visibly better screen. It has more storage for the dollar. IE, the 32gb Asus is the same price as the 16GB Samsung. The processor is slightly faster, but the Asus has a 5th independent low power processor that allows it to run much less power therefore slightly longer battery in real world. Average test is about 8 hours for the Samsung, 10 for the Asus.
The Asus also allows you to add the keyboard with an additional battery in the keyboard as well as full sized USB ports etc. So if you are looking for a laptop replacement, it's hard to beat. Now, you're probably asking, why am I putting all this in the Samsung thread?
I bought the Samsung. Why? Because the #1 thing I need from my tablet is the ability to take handwritten notes in meetings and it has to be easy and fast. Bottom line is, the digitizer system on the Note is unbeatable. Period. The Asus can't touch it. The Note is a great screen versus an amazing screen. It's nearly as fast processor wise, 1.4GHz vs 1.6GHz. So while the Asus in my mind is a better tablet, the Samsung Note is better for what I need. And by better I mean, lightyears better. There isn't a tablet on the market that can touch the Note for writing. It is truly paper and pencil good. But if you don't care about that, the Asus is a little better in a lot of ways.
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Thanks for your post, it's nice to "hear" a slightly different approach. The problem in my case is that I'm kinda looking for the Jack of all trades , pref master of all
The pen idea is really tempting and l hear people praising it to high heaven. I have an old Lenovo x 201 Tablet and loved it for years, but it's kinda big and cumbersome to lob around for short trips and meetings / classes .
I'm looking for something that can at the very least cover these areas:
Media machine ( connected to a screen)
Gaming
Productivity (notes in class+ I work as an IT consultant so quick notes at work etc. In this case both have almost equal merit. pen vs keyboard )
Stable ( regular updates)
Connectivity ( ports and connections)
Good performance
HAS TO HAVE GOOD BATTERY ( average use wifi + bluetooth + browsing and note taking + maybe a short vid. here and there)
What l don't really care about
Screen rez.
Build materials ( ok, don't want it China cheap, but don't need super hyper space age Unobtanium)
Still trying to narrow down everything l need it for.
I know I want my cake and eat it too, but let's be honest, why have the cake if you can't eat it??
To be honest that was the note 10.1 out of the box... It really doesn't need constant updates because it just works how its supposed too... I've never owned an Asus tablet but wouldn't constant updates mean it has constant problems that are trying to be fixed?
Gaming is fine, you can run the chainfire 3d app for tegra games, I run with sonic and that works fine and a few other games (NFS most wanted, GTA3, Dungeon Hunters 3 and Assassins creed 3) and have no problem...
Notes are easy to take using the pen, think back to high school with a folder, about the same size and not that heavy.
You can get an adaptor for usb connectivity - Just cant use an HDD as it requires too much power but a thumb drive works fine (mines 32gb), I have a 64gb sd card installed and I got the 32gb 3g version, forgot phone, no problem...
Performance is fine, there's no problem and 2gb of RAM makes it snappy - even when you fill it with stuff, I have around 4gb left internally and about 2gb on the 64gb sd card - no lag or stutter...
There is a HDMI adaptor you can get but haven't tried it. If you have a smart tv from 2012 then you can share your screen wirelessly and you can get the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv set. For older versions of TV sets freeing up your usb port you can use the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv instead of the MHL Adaptor.
Screen resolution is fine for what I need, it plays 720P movies very well and I don't care that I can't magnify the screen into infinity when viewing pics or text...
I have had no problem with build quality, mind you most people I know seem to put it into a folder for protection - don't use anything with magnets as it might affect the wacom digitiser.
The S-pen makes it easy to enter notes or data, its a shame that Samsung used a little known format for s-notes but there's ways around that too...
Battery life is awesome, I use it 8 hours a day watching movies, surfing the web, listening to music, writing, taking notes and making calls and still have around 20-25% at the end of the day...
Overall I find it fine for what I use it for, the new JB update makes it so much better....
At the end of the day you will make your decision, if you live in America you might be able to change that decision, but I like my note 10.1. It is the only tab out there that allowed me to make phone calls and that's what pushed it over the edge for me.. That and the bluetooth stylus that doubles as a handset.... :laugh:
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To be honest that was the note 10.1 out of the box... It really doesn't need constant updates because it just works how its supposed too... I've never owned an Asus tablet but wouldn't constant updates mean it has constant problems that are trying to be fixed?
Gaming is fine, you can run the chainfire 3d app for tegra games, I run with sonic and that works fine and a few other games (NFS most wanted, GTA3, Dungeon Hunters 3 and Assassins creed 3) and have no problem...
Notes are easy to take using the pen, think back to high school with a folder, about the same size and not that heavy.
You can get an adaptor for usb connectivity - Just cant use an HDD as it requires too much power but a thumb drive works fine (mines 32gb), I have a 64gb sd card installed and I got the 32gb 3g version, forgot phone, no problem...
Performance is fine, there's no problem and 2gb of RAM makes it snappy - even when you fill it with stuff, I have around 4gb left internally and about 2gb on the 64gb sd card - no lag or stutter...
There is a HDMI adaptor you can get but haven't tried it. If you have a smart tv from 2012 then you can share your screen wirelessly and you can get the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv set. For older versions of TV sets freeing up your usb port you can use the wireless adaptor that plugs into the tv instead of the MHL Adaptor.
Screen resolution is fine for what I need, it plays 720P movies very well and I don't care that I can't magnify the screen into infinity when viewing pics or text...
I have had no problem with build quality, mind you most people I know seem to put it into a folder for protection - don't use anything with magnets as it might affect the wacom digitiser.
The S-pen makes it easy to enter notes or data, its a shame that Samsung used a little known format for s-notes but there's ways around that too...
Battery life is awesome, I use it 8 hours a day watching movies, surfing the web, listening to music, writing, taking notes and making calls and still have around 20-25% at the end of the day...
Overall I find it fine for what I use it for, the new JB update makes it so much better....
At the end of the day you will make your decision, if you live in America you might be able to change that decision, but I like my note 10.1. It is the only tab out there that allowed me to make phone calls and that's what pushed it over the edge for me.. That and the bluetooth stylus that doubles as a handset.... :laugh:
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Can you tell me more about the wireless HDMI solution. One of the BIG issues I have with the note is the fact that it's lacking ports and there aren't any docking stations etc with both hdmi and usb . I have several really good LED TV's at home , but non have wireless DLNA or similar setups ( have to buy extra plugs etc) so a HDMI port would have been great...
Another issue is the fact that there seems to be an increase in TEGRA optimized games... somthing that's a major bummer since l actually like using the tab as a mini game console .
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I get 14 hours on the note on regular use, the record being 16 (talking about screen+ WiFi active, not about stand-by). With tf700 i had 11 hours with the first one, the other 2 devices never more than 8 hours (all without the dock, i did not buy one).
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Is that 14h out of the box, or have you done some tinkering with it?
For the games run chainfire 3d... You can then run the tegra games with no problem...
Allshare cast dongle or Allshare cast hub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003478 & http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VO7MY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

Is it still worth buying this tablet?

Hello everyone.
I am considering buying this tablet, as the price for the TF300TG dropped in my country to the level acceptable by me, but I am a bit worried. This tablet is one year old, yet it seems to be still quite popular. I would like to know its performance, as Antutu results show like ~10k which is quite low these days, on the other hand youtube tests show real racing 3 running quite smoothly.
Is it still worth buying?
I need a tablet mainly for hd movies and web browsing, 3G is a must. I might play some games, but this is not the main goal. I am also considering Lenovo S6000 (but the MTK actually sucks) and PIPO M9 Pro.
I will be grateful for any feedback, suggestions and opinions.
Regards.
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Hello everyone.
I am considering buying this tablet, as the price for the TF300TG dropped in my country to the level acceptable by me, but I am a bit worried. This tablet is one year old, yet it seems to be still quite popular. I would like to know its performance, as Antutu results show like ~10k which is quite low these days, on the other hand youtube tests show real racing 3 running quite smoothly.
Is it still worth buying?
I need a tablet mainly for hd movies and web browsing, 3G is a must. I might play some games, but this is not the main goal. I am also considering Lenovo S6000 (but the MTK actually sucks) and PIPO M9 Pro.
I will be grateful for any feedback, suggestions and opinions.
Regards.
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i love my tf300 and would buy it again in a heart beat, although there are some new toshiba tablets that look nice
Dandry said:
Hello everyone.
I am considering buying this tablet, as the price for the TF300TG dropped in my country to the level acceptable by me, but I am a bit worried. This tablet is one year old, yet it seems to be still quite popular. I would like to know its performance, as Antutu results show like ~10k which is quite low these days, on the other hand youtube tests show real racing 3 running quite smoothly.
Is it still worth buying?
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if you want an android tablet + keyboard option there's nothing else as cheap around afaik.
if you arent intrested in the keyboard it loses a lot of appeal.
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i love my tf300 and would buy it again in a heart beat, although there are some new toshiba tablets that look nice
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+1. I love my tf300t. No issues out if it at all. Tom Tom is awesome on it unlike my prime (tf201). The screen is absolutely clear even in sunlight. I primarily use mine outdoors as a huge gps
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Yes, its still a great device especially if you grab the keyboard. I use mine everyday and haven't found a newer one that's been tempting enough to buy.I say go for it... and then root it and drop a great rom in it
Yes, i love my tf300t its the best tablet i have ever had
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I own the TF300T and (depending on the price) I 'd say it's still a great tablet for web browsing and watching movies.
Some remarks:
- Tablet feels generally fast/smooth, unless you're installing/updating applications or during heavy access of the internal storage. Then the device becomes very slow during these occasions (it's the known I/O issue with the ASUS tablets).
- The tablet screen is not very usable in bright sunny day outdoors, as someone claimed the opposite above. Even at full brightness, I need to find shade to be able to see the screen.
- The speaker is loud, but the placement is not ideal and that hurts/changes the sound depending on how you're holding or placing the tablet. For movies, you need to be careful not to cover the speaker with your fingers. If you want clear stereo sound, it's best to use headphones.
- Screen quality is pretty decent with comfortable viewing angles.
- I can play tons of fun games with no problems at all. However: I do not like/try the heavy 3D games out there. The few I did try long time ago (e.g. dead trigger), the speed was very good. But I generally prefer the simple(r) games.
hope this helps
I've been using my Asus Transformer TF300T (WiFi only) since August 2012 and I am satisfied with it.
At its price range, there is no tablet with a hard-wired keyboard dock (not bluetooth keyboard) that can match it. You should also check out the pricing of its more high-end brethren, the Transformer Infinity TF700KG (3G) and TF700KL (LTE). These Infinity models use a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 Dual-Core processor (1.5GHz) instead of the usual Quad-core Tegra3 in order to fit in the Mobile Broadband radio. The processor may be a downgrade but the screen is upgraded to a Super IPS+ 1920x1200 display. Since you don't plan to play games to much on it, the brighter display would be a nice trade for the less powerful processor.
Some notes if you are getting a TF300:
1. The tablet experiences a weird battery drain bug (especially when connected to the keyboard dock). Unlike an iPad, which you can leave on sleep mode for weeks or months with minimal battery drain, the TF300 will be out of juice within 3 days if you do not plug it in... Turning off all radios still doesn't improve this too much...
2. The charger is very proprietary. Unlike typical Android tablets, the device-side connector is proprietary (looks like an Apple or Samsung 30-pin connector, but is not compatible with either). This part is understandable since this connector also serves as the docking connector to the keyboard dock. The more annoying thing is that the charger is not a normal 5V (10W) USB charger but is a special 15V charger that uses a USB port... Asus fiddled with the wiring so that a normal USB cable plugged into the charger produces only 5V so as not to accidentally fry your other devices, but their proprietary cable produces the correct 15V to charge the TF300. Plugging the TF300 to a regular 10W 5V USB charger will only charge the device if it is turned completely off. And it will take quite a long time to charge...
3. If you will buy the TF300 for the keyboard dock, then you would probably bring it around docked (otherwise, what would be the point of getting the keyboard dock?). You will have a hard time finding a nice, slim case that would fit on the tablet and still allow it to be docked. AFAIK, there is no case that just fits over the tablet portion of the TF300 while still allowing it to be docked and undocked from the keyboard dock. There are folio-type cases that cover the two halves of the tablet when docked but they are not form-fitted to the TF300 and are held in place by elastic bands (ugly...)...
If the keyboard dock is not a necessity and you can live with a smaller tablet, you may want to consider the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (8" tablet with 3G and S-Pen)...
Hope this helps you decide.
Best Regards!
^_^
Having my TF since around 3 months now, I have to revert my former prediction I would not buy it again, or recommend it right now:
Don't get me wrong, it is a great combination of a tablet and a somewhat capable notebook but:
- the CPU is too weak and once the Tegra 4 hits it will be outdated
- always runs at around 40 - 50 % of RAM already used by simple firing up the Tablet
- the screen is not good enough for longer sessions (had to experience that for myself first but it is true)
and the biggest reason for waiting:
Asus announced a new version of the Infinity coming up soon, the baby offers:
- 300 PPI
- 2560 x 1600 resolution
- Tegra 4
- 2 GB of ram (which will soon be the new standard)
So if you can wait a few month and don't mind paying a bit more you will probably end up with the best tablet on the market.
Hope that helped
- the CPU is too weak and once the Tegra 4 hits it will be outdated
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It's fast enoughimho, the main bottleneck is the storage I/O. And of course it will be outdated once the new version comes out, that's the meaning of the word outdated....
- always runs at around 40 - 50 % of RAM already used by simple firing up the Tablet
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This is a good thing because free RAM is useless RAM. Most of the system is loaded into RAM which means the slow storage I/O is much less of a problem. And even with the whole system loaded, you have ~60% free for demanding applications.
- the screen is not good enough for longer sessions (had to experience that for myself first but it is true)
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Why? Is it too bright? Is the refresh rate wrong? Because it looks fine to me and I watch movies on it.
If anything I think it's main weaknesses are the speaker, poor standby times since the update to 4.2 and the large bezel.
frankgreimes said:
- the CPU is too weak and once the Tegra 4 hits it will be outdated
- always runs at around 40 - 50 % of RAM already used by simple firing up the Tablet
- the screen is not good enough for longer sessions (had to experience that for myself first but it is true)
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Regarding the CPU:
Personally, I think Nvidia over-sold the capabilities of the Tegra processors. They over-hyped the performance of the Tegra 2 but actually delivered that expected performance when the Tegra 3 was released, then again with Tegra 3 (where its over-hyped performance would only be delivered by the Tegra 4)...
I know this from personal experience since I bought a Motorola Atrix 4G (yes, people like me actually exist! ) for its Tegra 2 processor on Aug 2011 (Asia version) only to find out that its H.264 HW acceleration is limited to simple profile only... (its direct competitor then, the Samsung Galaxy S3, had better H.264 HW acceleration support...)
Tegra-accelerated games (THD) were few and far between and graphics performance was not as impressive as promised.
Then I bought the Asus Transformer TF300T (Aug 2012) with the Tegra 3 processor and thought: "Finally, the H.264 HW acceleration will be fixed and gaming performance would improve..." Well, the H.264 HW acceleration was fixed, but gaming performance remained "meh"...
A lot of popular games (mostly from GameLoft) don't even recognize the device and several workarounds needed to be done to get the games to play. When finally games officially supporting the tablet were released (like Dungeon Hunter 4 and Asphalt 7), I find out the games don't perform fluidly or stutters in the middle of gameplay (Asphalt 7) or are simply unplayable due to the low framerate (DH4)... Then I see my friends playing these same games flawlessly on a Samsung Galaxy Note (1st-gen)...
After some updates for the games and lots of tweaks to free up memory (RAM), I finally am able to play Asphalt 7 with a smooth framerate during the actual race (no more stuttering) but the menus are still not as smooth. I also am able to at least play DH4 (on medium detail settings)...
Which brings me to the RAM issue...
The TF300T came with a lot of gunk that I didn't and had no plan of using. I can't uninstall them without potentially breaking OTA updates. So after discovering that freeing up RAM would allow certain games like the above GameLoft games and other large games (SoulCraft, SpellStorm, etc) to run better, I looked around the forums (mostly this forum) to find utilities like App Quarantine - requires root - (to prevent applications/services from being started at boot and ever after) as well as Greenify - requires root - (to force applications you actually to be hibernated so that they don't "wake up" and "phone home" every so often and not release their RAM and CPU resources) and Auto Memory Manager (to tweak the OOM/out-of-memory settings of Android so that the OS will do a cleanup of empty processes and kill other less important processes when the free memory drops below a certain threshold)...
Regarding the Display:
The screen is not as bright as other tablets, but I knew that going in and obviously it was a trade-off to lower the cost of the unit. It is still usable, as long as you are indoors and do not have a bright light source behind you...
As I replied to Dandry's original post, for his application (general tablet use), the TF300TG (3G version) would still be a match to his needs as long as the price is reasonable (meaning lower than it's original price) and the hardware-docked-keyboard-w/-battery-pack feature is compelling for you...
Cheers!
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Even better with the Official Cyanogen 4.3 Nightlies
I had mine for over 1 yr now, rooted a couple of months ago and now have the new Official Cyanogen 4.3 Nightlies rom installed. Runs great.
I have 2 of them and have no regrets
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I have 2 of them and have no regrets
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+1
Both of my kids have each their tft300 and sharing one keyboard
Since one year now and nothing negative to say...
Go for it
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It's fast enoughimho, the main bottleneck is the storage I/O. And of course it will be outdated once the new version comes out, that's the meaning of the word outdated....
This is a good thing because free RAM is useless RAM. Most of the system is loaded into RAM which means the slow storage I/O is much less of a problem. And even with the whole system loaded, you have ~60% free for demanding applications.
Why? Is it too bright? Is the refresh rate wrong? Because it looks fine to me and I watch movies on it.
If anything I think it's main weaknesses are the speaker, poor standby times since the update to 4.2 and the large bezel.
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I don't know about yours, but mine started to have ghostclicks and if I press the black border it acts touch sensitive. Sometimes the tablet runs as smooth as it gets other times I hate to work with it, kind of strange.
The RAM thing really depends how you are looking at it, free RAM should be reserved for tasks that need it, if you are constantly running on 50 % of the full RAM = less ram for the more important stuff. Believe me I have tried to remove all the startup blunder but some apps aren't just going away, i.e E-Mail clients although I am using K-9.
For basic things the screen is good enough, but when it comes down to PDF reading and looking at some more complex websites you can really tell the difference in terms of text-quality. I have seen tablet with 200 ppi + and black actually looked like black not just more grey.
Grifter thanks for your lenghty and great review and recommending some apps I really hope they are going to fix my startup problem because it gets annoying.
Disclaiming: The tablet itself is for sure not bad and the docked keyboard is a great pleasure but right now we are 2 months away from the next Infinity which will offer a lot more for for only + $ 150 so personally speaking I would wait and see this 300 ppi Tegra 4 baby in action before buying one right now. chances are it's going to fix all the previous problems the Transformer-series has had.
But if your looking for a great budget tablet you can't go wrong with the TF 300.
I've been dealing with lots of lag and my friends and dad's Nexus 10 is much smoother. Having the choice again for $100 more, I would have bought the Nexus. Keep in mind I'm on the stock rom and rooted. Can't unlock because of the rma'd issue. Hoping it's smoother with a custom ROM, which I imagine it will be, after the upgrade
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TF300T hardware is not bad given the price. You can have a Samsung for better performance if you can afford to fork out more, evidently. My main grudge is the way they treat customers after the purchase. Witness petition after petition that went unanswered. If they don't care about customers, then we simply shouldn't spend money on their products, especially on one that's so prone to bricking as this model - and not always due to users' fault as they're so fond of clamoring. If they deliberately refuse to release the Key so as to drum up service, there's even more reason to stay away.
Unfortunately, corporate moral standards have been set so low in the last two or three decades, consumers can only get them to listen by hurting their bottom line. As the adage goes, evil will flourish where decent people stand idly by. A few years ago, China banked on low prices to gain market shares. Then they understood that without improving the quality of products and services, they will fall out of the race. We should remind Asus of that principle. In this business, being # 3 is a kiss of death. I can see Ipads battling Samsung Notes. Who ever heard of TF this and that competing against anything of substance? God help them, as I don't care to.
Update on the screen quality:
I gave it another chance by taking the tablet with me outdoors (in the shade, in a bright summer day). The screen is barely usable outdoors, period. At full brightness, it's barely visible. And the glass reflects the fingerprints a lot. At some cases I could hardly tell if the screen, beneath the fingerprints, was on or off. (I am not sure if a screen protector would solve this last issue)
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In this business, being # 3 is a kiss of death. I can see Ipads battling Samsung Notes. Who ever heard of TF this and that competing against anything of substance? God help them, as I don't care to.
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Be reminded that the transformer line were the first mainstream tablets which had an additional detachable keyboard. That was an ASUS innovation and only now do we see similar hybrid/convertible devices from other manufacturers. Also, ASUS competes very well both with Apple and Samsung, simply because they are behind the Google Nexus devices.
TF300T Was a great workhorse for me for 14 months, I also have a TF700 which I no longer use(IO performance issues and overall slow performance due a 1080p screen resolution with a very slow Tegra SoC) and can finally can let those two go.
The TF300T is still great, specially for watching HD movies(720p only), with the docking option you can have up to 128Gb of storage. 720p videos run great, even 1080p videos run great on my 65"LED tv thru HDMI adapter as long as you disable the video on the TF300T and OC to 1.6 Ghz(Performance Mode), GPS works great, WIFI is decent enough and the multitouch feature on the touchpad was really useful. 8 Megapixel camera(rear)with AF still takes great pics specially if you use the right software and you can even make HD video recording.
My only big complain is regarding the browsing department, I tried everything you can imagine with no success, installed every single ROM, tried every single browser with no luck at all. I heard there's an IO performance issue with Asus TF300T and TF700 tablets.
My wife gave me a Nexus 7 32GB 2013 for my birthday, what an amazing machine for browsing internet content, this is amazingly fast, fast , fast. I just ordered a nexus 10 32Gb which will make my life easier and replace my TF700. I will no longer have the flexibility for the storage as I have with the transformers but who can complain if these new units can perform without glitches,lagging or slowdowns specially browsing internet and playing 1080p videos smoothly.
There is no blame to Asus or the transformer line, maybe just for the I/O issues, I had a TF101 as well(tegra 2). Tegra 3 SoC is the one to blame for. Such a poor SoC with so much publicity that was always under-performing, from the very beginning. It's time to upgrade for me. my 2 cents here.
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TF300T Was a great workhorse for me for 14 months, I also have a TF700 which I no longer use(IO performance issues and overall slow performance due a 1080p screen resolution with a very slow Tegra SoC) and can finally can let those two go.
The TF300T is still great, specially for watching HD movies(720p only), with the docking option you can have up to 128Gb of storage. 720p videos run great, even 1080p videos run great on my 65"LED tv thru HDMI adapter as long as you disable the video on the TF300T and OC to 1.6 Ghz(Performance Mode), GPS works great, WIFI is decent enough and the multitouch feature on the touchpad was really useful. 8 Megapixel camera(rear)with AF still takes great pics specially if you use the right software and you can even make HD video recording.
My only big complain is regarding the browsing department, I tried everything you can imagine with no success, installed every single ROM, tried every single browser with no luck at all. I heard there's an IO performance issue with Asus TF300T and TF700 tablets.
My wife gave me a Nexus 7 32GB 2013 for my birthday, what an amazing machine for browsing internet content, this is amazingly fast, fast , fast. I just ordered a nexus 10 32Gb which will make my life easier and replace my TF700. I will no longer have the flexibility for the storage as I have with the transformers but who can complain if these new units can perform without glitches,lagging or slowdowns specially browsing internet and playing 1080p videos smoothly.
There is no blame to Asus or the transformer line, maybe just for the I/O issues, I had a TF101 as well(tegra 2). Tegra 3 SoC is the one to blame for. Such a poor SoC with so much publicity that was always under-performing, from the very beginning. It's time to upgrade for me. my 2 cents here.
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Finally managed to make my TF300T run smooth enough at 1.3Ghz(including browsing) with Latest Hydro 8 Rom(JB 4.2.1) and Greenify, App Quarantine and AutoMemory Manager Apps and latest Browse to Ram apK. I'm going to keep my TF300T and start experimenting with my upcoming Nexus 10. However My TF700 definitely goes to craigslist or ebay.

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