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I've been searching this form for an hour or two now and still haven't found my issue, so here goes.
Just got an HTC Inspire 4G off of ebay and it arrived today.
The seller had mentioned that the phone was freezing / rebooting, but I figured.. that's because he's not running cm7, right?
Charged and booted up the phone and it turns out that the problem was a little worse than I first expected. I only experienced occasional freezing, and it only rebooted once, but there is a worse problem.
The phone loaded up fine, looked good, but tapping around on the home screen I got messages alerting me that system apps (htc sense, launcher, and even com.android.phone) had stopped responding or had shut down.
I hit the menu and go to settings. I scroll down the list and the entire list goes black. I hit home and it goes to a home screen, but with no launcher or icons. Basically, every few taps, the interface goes out. If you are on a menu it blacks out, if you are at home or press home after the menu blacks out you will get anywhere from pieces of icons / widgets to just a blank desktop. The live wallpaper even keeps going, but all of the interactive stuff quits. The disappearing menus didn't usually give app closed messages, they just went black. The home screen only gave app closed messages sometimes.
I thought this was a software problem, so I managed to root the phone and flash cm7. Everything booted good, but it still had the same problem of weird disappearing menus and home interfaces. I went ahead and flashed gapps and got the little intro thing about setting up my Inspire 4g that starts when you first boot your phone. I clicked through that but when it gets to connect wifi, the phone entirely freezes and I have to pull the battery.
I flashed inspiremod and nothing changed, tho that's for something else, so I'm not sure that's entirely relevant, but I was trying everything I could think of.
I'm definitely no expert on hardware, but it almost sounds like a ram problem, like it doesn't have enough to keep all of the interface going all the time and shuts it down or shuts parts of it down to work.. but I don't want to believe that. I'm really hoping that it's a software problem.
I got the phone at a good price and it came with an otterbox, so I won't be too disappointed if I can't get it fully functional, but it would still be a bummer.
Any help / advice / suggestions appreciated. Thanks, guys!
EDIT: I cleared the cache / dalvik cache before flashing / reflashing cm7, which I did once or twice
EDIT 2: Now if I leave it on the intro screen where it freezes it reboots after a minute or so. Gonna try flashing a different mod.. see if that helps.
That was a long post. But it was good, you gave a lot of info.
The cm7 zip that you downloaded, check the md5 checksum, make sureit matches whatever is in the op (first page) or wherever the md5 is, maybe where you downloaded it from. If it doesn't, download again.
Then,
from recovery,
Wipe data/factory reset.
Wipe dalvik
Format all partitions(except sd card)
Flash zip/rom.
Check if it works. If not, try using it without the sd card. If not, come back and report.
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Thanks for the reply and suggestions.
I check the md5, and it's good. I just did a factory reset and wiped cache and dalvik.. I'm unsure what you mean by format all partitions except sd card. I don't think I know how to do this with clockworkmod.
Started up without sd card and it still has the same problem. Looks great until I touch the screen, then everything disappears except the wallpaper.
Reboot in recovery and do it from there. You'll find format all partitions at the bottom... well, maybe. Cwm has an option to reboot in recovery, and I think if you press and hold the power button, select reboot and it will also ask you if you wantto boot into recovery. Cant remember if cm7 has it, it should.
After you wiped those, flash the rom. Stay in recovery and search for fix.permissions. Reboot.
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Just did that and re-flashed cm7, but the phone was still having the same problems.
I then repeated the process with a MIUI ICS rom and it seemingly worked for a little bit. I got a "Maps has stopped working" message, but I was able to slide back and forth through the home screens, and the menu came up. After I tapped though the menu a bit it started being weird again, but with MIUI the weirdness is different. It looked like the screen was divided up into 20 something smaller screens tiled across the display with messed up looking bits of screen in them.. weird..
If you are wiping correctly then I am out of ideas. I would say try a GB rom, however that is a strange issue and just might be a hardware problem. Tough, Im not sure.
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I've tried cm7, which is 2.3, and I've tried a 4.0.4 MIUI build and one other sense rom that didn't work well at all.
I'm wiping and flashing the same as I did on my LG p509, which works beautifully with cm7.
If it is hardware, hopefully it's something simple like the battery, and not bad RAM or anything serious..
Maybe if I keep at it I'll get it.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
Np. Keep us updated.
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I ordered a new battery for it, and that fixed the random reboots, which had been occurring more frequently, but the other problems were still there.
I flashed and re flashed and formatted and reinstalled a bunch, but still no luck. I then decided that I might take it by the local cell phone repair shop and see if they could fix it.
In preparation, I used aahk to flash the stock ruu with everything how it was when I got it. After booting it up, it seemed to be working ok.
I still get the occasional menu glitch, but it's so infrequent it's not an issue.
The phone still freezes up quite a bit when I'm using it, but it's nearly a useable device now!
awkwardcheesecake said:
I ordered a new battery for it, and that fixed the random reboots, which had been occurring more frequently, but the other problems were still there.
I flashed and re flashed and formatted and reinstalled a bunch, but still no luck. I then decided that I might take it by the local cell phone repair shop and see if they could fix it.
In preparation, I used aahk to flash the stock ruu with everything how it was when I got it. After booting it up, it seemed to be working ok.
I still get the occasional menu glitch, but it's so infrequent it's not an issue.
The phone still freezes up quite a bit when I'm using it, but it's nearly a useable device now!
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Have you tried changing out the sd card? Having a bad sd card can cause all inds of odd issues
I booted it without an sd card before and couldn't tell the difference, but it had a lot more issues than just freezing then.
I haven't tried it since those other issues have stopped. I'll try that when I get home from work.
So I've had a few similar problems with recent ROMS i have flashed.
I'd been using CM9 and CM10 for a while, but got tired of lag and bugs. I thought I'd go back to GB for a while and reflash after some bugs had been worked out.
From CM10 odin'd back to GB stock with CWM and root, then installed AEON purely by reputation. That lasted for about a week. The phone had all kinds of issues with the battery. The battery level would often be all over the place (i know this sometimes happens after a reboot.) After a full charge the phone would stay on for about 4-12 hours, and simply turn off. Prior to shutting off the battery would read at 50%+.
Every time the phone shut off like this I could charge it all day and it would not restart. The only way it would start is if i pulled the battery, plugged in the carger and reinserted the battery. Once I did that an empty battery would show up on the screen. However it was not the normal green one with gradients that would show up, but simply a white box showing no charge. If i held down the power button eventually the normal battery charging screen would show up and it would reboot.
I'm assuming the phone was misreading the battery level for some reason. I tried clearing battery stats. No change.
So I thought 'time for a new rom'
I'm not certain if I went back to stock before this.
So from there I went back to CM9 and then to CM10. The battery issues remained, and two new issues arose.
My reception in the notification bar would turn to an empty triangle. It was not a misreport. I could not make calls or access the internet.
Also whenever i went in to airplane mode it would be grayed out in the power menu. It was impossible to turn off airplane mode without restarting.
I'm not on the most recent verison of liquid smooth. The issues remain, but I don't think it's the ROM as others don't seem to be having these issues.
Does anyone know any reason for this?
My understanding of flashing is that it's essentially a list of folders and files that replaces or adds to existing ones on the phone. Does it actually erase anything? Obviously it leaves our simcards and picture files. It also seems to leave app folders.
And just to be clear I wiped user data, cache, fixed permissions, etc. IMEI is still there, so i don't think that's the service issue. I did not restore any apps with titanium backup for similar. Everything was installed from the play store.
Whenever you flashed back to stock, do you happen to flash boot loaders?
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magnetboard said:
Whenever you flashed back to stock, do you happen to flash boot loaders?
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I flashed back to GB so I don't think that was necessary. I've not had the other bootloader issues with garbled display, etc.
Recently put ViperXL on and took updates now its ViperXL 3.2.5, put kernel 3.4.10-ElementalX v5.0 vanilla on, flashed radio 2.41.,S-OFF.. Now the screen at times becomes unresponsive like when deleting apps,touch the app , it opens but it wont move or delete.IF I reboot, the screen behaves like it should for an unknown period then problem starts to repeat itself untill rebooting again. Another issue I noticed lately before flashing Viper is in TWRP , especially when rebooting, tapping the reboot button it wont respond for a short period,I might have to tap several times to get reboot to happen. I am wondering if I put too much on the system or might it be something internal?
leesumm said:
Recently put ViperXL on and took updates now its ViperXL 3.2.5, put kernel 3.4.10-ElementalX v5.0 vanilla on, flashed radio 2.41.,S-OFF.. Now the screen at times becomes unresponsive like when deleting apps,touch the app , it opens but it wont move or delete.IF I reboot, the screen behaves like it should for an unknown period then problem starts to repeat itself untill rebooting again. Another issue I noticed lately before flashing Viper is in TWRP , especially when rebooting, tapping the reboot button it wont respond for a short period,I might have to tap several times to get reboot to happen. I am wondering if I put too much on the system or might it be something internal?
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delay with twrp reboot is normal. issues with custom kernels are pretty common as you are pushing your phone beyond spec and making the phone do things it wasn't really designed to do. imo the screen freezing is due to s2w but i could be wrong. i think you can turn s2w off in elemental, try turning it off and see if you still get freezing.
could be.
DvineLord said:
delay with twrp reboot is normal. issues with custom kernels are pretty common as you are pushing your phone beyond spec and making the phone do things it wasn't really designed to do. imo the screen freezing is due to s2w but i could be wrong. i think you can turn s2w off in elemental, try turning it off and see if you still get freezing.
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This could be the trick. I tried this morning and so far today there hasn't been a hangup on apps. I tried a couple and everything as usual. But this has been a intermittent thing not knowing when or how it would happen.
Yeah I have found some of the Venom tweaks really affecting responsiveness. For example if you could figure power long press to turn on the flashlight it takes NOTABLY longer to wake the phone. I can see s2w having the same effect
Here I thought I was the only one experiencing this issue. I did a full wipe and format and flashed a bone stock (default configuration) flash of ViperXL to see if that would solve the issue. Screen issue doesn't occur as often as before bit it still happens. I found that if I block the light sensor, the screen begins to behave normally. I don't have a logcat yet but can upload if necessary.
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same problem again.
leesumm said:
This could be the trick. I tried this morning and so far today there hasn't been a hangup on apps. I tried a couple and everything as usual. But this has been a intermittent thing not knowing when or how it would happen.
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I thought wrong , again, tried this morning just moving an app from home screen to second screen. It will open but unable to move it or delete it from the screen. Rebooted and seems everything is normal again.
Are you using 4x5 Rosie?
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Are you using 4x5 Rosie?
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Not really sure, I can't find anything that 4x5 is enabled. S2W I disabled also, this is not a big problem just irritating some times. Things usually start working normal when I reboot system .
You could try increasing the voltage.
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You could try increasing the voltage.
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At this point I am not sure I am that smart to be messing with volotage and such on the inside of this thing.
just stopped using a custom kernel. i stopped using them cause of freezing issues.
I seem to have really strange issues with this phone.
I've tried both C-Rom and Cyanogen and both of them have these same issues.
When I first turn on the phone, it will run, but everything will stutter around at about 1-2 fps for about 2 minutes. I can confirm that this happens even with no 3rd party apps installed.
Secondly, half the time when I go to grab the phone and just check notifications and so on, I'll unlock it and try to press something and it'll be frozen. I have to wait about 2 minutes before I can do anything else on it. The only thing I can do in this time is lock the screen, but not unlock it. I can tell it frozen at a low level because I have a system setting in C-Rom to play a sound when the battery dis/reconnected and that doesn't play while it's in this state. Has anyone else been experiencing this? I've already completely wiped the phone completely once using the return to stock guide and these issues have not been resolved.
Had the same problem with stock ROM or tried with GPE? Might be a hardware problem...
fckland said:
Had the same problem with stock ROM or tried with GPE? Might be a hardware problem...
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Are you still having these issues or did you find a fix for them? I have the Boost Mobile one, but are you suggesting that I could/should put the GPE ROM on here?
Isn't this a memory usage ( ram ) problem that's been mentioned?
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The first part (FPS issue) happens to me, whe the phone boots, the FPS go down, bad, but the phone works ok, if i put the stopwatch app (CM11) time runs normally but the screen refreshes every half second or more.
Now, the second problem, about the phone freezing whan it wakes up, never happened to me, but i have to recognize that i had a few (2 or 3) reboots just when i waked up the phone and one time it just freezed with the screen off.
My neighbor's 5113 is having some strange issues I hope I can get some insight on. I've worked with a lot of Samsung phones and am very familiar with flashing, Odin, etc but have not worked with a tablet before.
First, it has 4.2.2 on it. I tried the stock software update function and it says it's up to date. Is that true? Is 4.2.2 the latest official for this device?
Second, It's having lock up issues (see below) so I thought I would "Clear Cache" in stock recovery. It starts going through the process and then errors out. It just flashes ERROR and then goes back to the stock recovery screen. I've never seen that before. Any ideas?
Lastly and most importantly, it locks up regularly. It will lock up with the screen on (although it seems to take longer to lock up with the screen on with some motion.) When the screen goes off it will lock up quickly, normally within 5 minutes and it even locks up when charging up. The charging animation stops and you have to hold the power button for 10 seconds to get it to come back to life. It's very strange. It even seems to freeze when it's off. It won't just start by pushing the power button for a couple of seconds, you have to hold it for 10 seconds until the charging animation pops up and then push the power button for a couple of seconds.
I haven't reset to factory specs because she has a ton of info on the thing and I'm afraid if it errors out clearing cache, what might it do if I try a factory reset?
Thoughts?
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE: I did a factory reset via stock recovery and it did delete all the data. It still will not let me clear cache though. It still locks up whenever the screen goes dark. It will lock up in just a couple of minutes.
Very frustrating.
I would try flashing the stock firmware and see if that clears up the locking problem, after a day or so I would flash CM11 with gapps and take it from there.
After running stock rooted before flashing CM11 do a nandroid b/u just in case it acts up. CM11 IS SUPER stable, have run it on my P5113 for several years starting with cm10.
CM12 is still buggy don't trust it.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
I would try flashing the stock firmware and see if that clears up the locking problem,
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Thank you very much PanchoPlanet. I factory reset and reloaded stock firmware several times but it would still lock up as soon as it went to sleep. And I still could not wipe cache. Very strange. I went so far as to not set up any accounts and make sure it didn't download any software updates to make sure it wasn't some update that was causing issues.
It would still lock up even when it was off and just supposed to be charging the battery! So I really think it's memory is trashed.
But I would be more than open to listen to any other ideas.
Thanks.
Maybe there could be other issues that you are not aware of, like the tab having been dropped or liquid damage or even voodoo, who knows.
Sometimes people don't disclose all the details.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Maybe there could be other issues that you are not aware of, like the tab having been dropped or liquid damage or even voodoo, who knows.
Sometimes people don't disclose all the details.
Pp.
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It looks to be in perfect shape. But in any event, if something like that happened then it's toast anyway.
Yeah, especially the voodoo. Lol.
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