I've been searching this form for an hour or two now and still haven't found my issue, so here goes.
Just got an HTC Inspire 4G off of ebay and it arrived today.
The seller had mentioned that the phone was freezing / rebooting, but I figured.. that's because he's not running cm7, right?
Charged and booted up the phone and it turns out that the problem was a little worse than I first expected. I only experienced occasional freezing, and it only rebooted once, but there is a worse problem.
The phone loaded up fine, looked good, but tapping around on the home screen I got messages alerting me that system apps (htc sense, launcher, and even com.android.phone) had stopped responding or had shut down.
I hit the menu and go to settings. I scroll down the list and the entire list goes black. I hit home and it goes to a home screen, but with no launcher or icons. Basically, every few taps, the interface goes out. If you are on a menu it blacks out, if you are at home or press home after the menu blacks out you will get anywhere from pieces of icons / widgets to just a blank desktop. The live wallpaper even keeps going, but all of the interactive stuff quits. The disappearing menus didn't usually give app closed messages, they just went black. The home screen only gave app closed messages sometimes.
I thought this was a software problem, so I managed to root the phone and flash cm7. Everything booted good, but it still had the same problem of weird disappearing menus and home interfaces. I went ahead and flashed gapps and got the little intro thing about setting up my Inspire 4g that starts when you first boot your phone. I clicked through that but when it gets to connect wifi, the phone entirely freezes and I have to pull the battery.
I flashed inspiremod and nothing changed, tho that's for something else, so I'm not sure that's entirely relevant, but I was trying everything I could think of.
I'm definitely no expert on hardware, but it almost sounds like a ram problem, like it doesn't have enough to keep all of the interface going all the time and shuts it down or shuts parts of it down to work.. but I don't want to believe that. I'm really hoping that it's a software problem.
I got the phone at a good price and it came with an otterbox, so I won't be too disappointed if I can't get it fully functional, but it would still be a bummer.
Any help / advice / suggestions appreciated. Thanks, guys!
EDIT: I cleared the cache / dalvik cache before flashing / reflashing cm7, which I did once or twice
EDIT 2: Now if I leave it on the intro screen where it freezes it reboots after a minute or so. Gonna try flashing a different mod.. see if that helps.
That was a long post. But it was good, you gave a lot of info.
The cm7 zip that you downloaded, check the md5 checksum, make sureit matches whatever is in the op (first page) or wherever the md5 is, maybe where you downloaded it from. If it doesn't, download again.
Then,
from recovery,
Wipe data/factory reset.
Wipe dalvik
Format all partitions(except sd card)
Flash zip/rom.
Check if it works. If not, try using it without the sd card. If not, come back and report.
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Thanks for the reply and suggestions.
I check the md5, and it's good. I just did a factory reset and wiped cache and dalvik.. I'm unsure what you mean by format all partitions except sd card. I don't think I know how to do this with clockworkmod.
Started up without sd card and it still has the same problem. Looks great until I touch the screen, then everything disappears except the wallpaper.
Reboot in recovery and do it from there. You'll find format all partitions at the bottom... well, maybe. Cwm has an option to reboot in recovery, and I think if you press and hold the power button, select reboot and it will also ask you if you wantto boot into recovery. Cant remember if cm7 has it, it should.
After you wiped those, flash the rom. Stay in recovery and search for fix.permissions. Reboot.
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Just did that and re-flashed cm7, but the phone was still having the same problems.
I then repeated the process with a MIUI ICS rom and it seemingly worked for a little bit. I got a "Maps has stopped working" message, but I was able to slide back and forth through the home screens, and the menu came up. After I tapped though the menu a bit it started being weird again, but with MIUI the weirdness is different. It looked like the screen was divided up into 20 something smaller screens tiled across the display with messed up looking bits of screen in them.. weird..
If you are wiping correctly then I am out of ideas. I would say try a GB rom, however that is a strange issue and just might be a hardware problem. Tough, Im not sure.
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I've tried cm7, which is 2.3, and I've tried a 4.0.4 MIUI build and one other sense rom that didn't work well at all.
I'm wiping and flashing the same as I did on my LG p509, which works beautifully with cm7.
If it is hardware, hopefully it's something simple like the battery, and not bad RAM or anything serious..
Maybe if I keep at it I'll get it.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
Np. Keep us updated.
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I ordered a new battery for it, and that fixed the random reboots, which had been occurring more frequently, but the other problems were still there.
I flashed and re flashed and formatted and reinstalled a bunch, but still no luck. I then decided that I might take it by the local cell phone repair shop and see if they could fix it.
In preparation, I used aahk to flash the stock ruu with everything how it was when I got it. After booting it up, it seemed to be working ok.
I still get the occasional menu glitch, but it's so infrequent it's not an issue.
The phone still freezes up quite a bit when I'm using it, but it's nearly a useable device now!
awkwardcheesecake said:
I ordered a new battery for it, and that fixed the random reboots, which had been occurring more frequently, but the other problems were still there.
I flashed and re flashed and formatted and reinstalled a bunch, but still no luck. I then decided that I might take it by the local cell phone repair shop and see if they could fix it.
In preparation, I used aahk to flash the stock ruu with everything how it was when I got it. After booting it up, it seemed to be working ok.
I still get the occasional menu glitch, but it's so infrequent it's not an issue.
The phone still freezes up quite a bit when I'm using it, but it's nearly a useable device now!
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Have you tried changing out the sd card? Having a bad sd card can cause all inds of odd issues
I booted it without an sd card before and couldn't tell the difference, but it had a lot more issues than just freezing then.
I haven't tried it since those other issues have stopped. I'll try that when I get home from work.
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Not sure if anyone has had this problem but I'm seeing some really odd issues, sometimes the screen starts moving really quick almost like flickering but from left to right as if I'm holding finger on the screen and moving it extremely fast. Sometimes it seems like touch screen doesn't work until I hit power and menu right after, also randomly core apps would crash.
I'm on jf1.42 rc33.
are you using any themes? I've encountered similar problems, but only after flashing multiple themes without wiping. i've never had any problems after a fresh wipe and reflash of JF 1.1*.
tchort said:
Not sure if anyone has had this problem but I'm seeing some really odd issues, sometimes the screen starts moving really quick almost like flickering but from left to right as if I'm holding finger on the screen and moving it extremely fast. Sometimes it seems like touch screen doesn't work until I hit power and menu right after, also randomly core apps would crash.
I'm on jf1.42 rc33.
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i'm having similar problems but wasn't sure if something i did screwed it up, i was getting random core apps crashing on 1.41 RC33 and to test a script i wrote and an app made by another i completely wiped every thing to where the phone wouldn't start at all, i achieved this with adb shell wipe all
i wouldn't suggest doing that unless you have an update.zip waiting to be flashed to your phone, i put the phone back to warrenty standards and then started EVERYTHING all over so i could test the things i wanted to. when i finished testing i rooted and put 1.42 on and it seemed a little better all day until it popped up and phone process, settings, and core all three crashed at the same time about 30 minutes ago. my flash was 100% clean as there was nothing on the phone at all including OS, i completely wiped the system partition and data and refused to flash my nandroid back up since i didn't want the same problems. i hope someone else knows what's going on and we can fix this
I went from stock rc 30, rooted, JF RC 30, Themes (many), RC 33,JF ADP 1.1, then back to RC 33.
I had an issue of contacts not syncing, and the import contacts from sim caused a core force close.
So i did a freash install of JF 1.43 RC33 and it worked again. No screen problems but I did have a few core apps force closing. It hasnt happened since my last install of RC 33. Im running a modified theme now, my own with very little changes.
jonnybueno said:
are you using any themes? I've encountered similar problems, but only after flashing multiple themes without wiping. i've never had any problems after a fresh wipe and reflash of JF 1.1*.
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No themes, if I do a wipe, what happens with paid apps that I have installed does anyone know?
Looks like it was the related to multi touch, after doing another wipe and installing a build with out multi touch the problem went away no more rapid screen movement and apps are not crashing
Anyone ever see the message "Process system not responding". Here's the story.
Well, I've been installing apps like a loose cannon, figuring I may be dooming myself to a hard reset, and it may have come to pass.
Last thing that happened while the phone was running good, was I ran the demo of the 3D game XXXXXXXXX. I received a call, and had to hop away, and after that the phone became unresponsive. Looking at what was loaded with Advanced Task Killer, I did not see the game to kill, so I turned off the phone.
Now, it is taking a very long time to 'boot'. The Phone is Locked screen would pop up, and I'd try to slide it off, and it would slide about half off. Screen black except for the clock of the lock screen. And after sliding off half way, the screen would go black, as if it was off, but then the lock screen would come back.
Kept thinking that ultimately it would finish. After a bit I got the task bar at top, and it was saying preparing internal memory'Preparing Internal Mass Storage"; then finally " Media scanner running". Finally a few icons from the dock. But everything else still black.
Then finally it would come up with a big message "Sorry!. Process system is not responding. buttons for Force close, and Wait. I don't know if that is an Android message, or an app message. I tried force close, and it went back into the same iteration of events.
So the next time i tried a boot, I did not respond to the message for a while, and it seemed to be making progress behind the message. It went off, I turned it back on, it had lock screen, moved it off a bit easier.
Then finally it came up more screen things in place. Then again with a message "Process system is nto responding". Let it set 'til it went off again. This time it came up a bit futher, and this time it came up with window to select launcher. I selected TWiz launcher. Process message again, and I killed it this time.
Whewh...Still not resolved.
I guess if there are any suggestions short of hard reset, i'm interested in hearing. maybe one of you have had this happen. If it ever finishes loading, first thing I'm going to do is remove that game.
One thing that is a pain and I think contributes, is that so many apps load by default it seems. And the more you install the more that happens, from what I have seen. I know I don't have as many apps installed as I've seen others reference, but I do have 2-3 different memory type utilities that I've wondered if they woudl interfere with each othre, but they supposedly don't all load at boot.
Post long enough. I'll add more if I find anything interesting.
ewingr said:
Anyone ever see the message "Process system not responding". Here's the story.
Well, I've been installing apps like a loose cannon, figuring I may be dooming myself to a hard reset, and it may have come to pass.
Last thing that happened while the phone was running good, was I ran the demo of the 3D game XXXXXXXXX. I received a call, and had to hop away, and after that the phone became unresponsive. Looking at what was loaded with Advanced Task Killer, I did not see the game to kill, so I turned off the phone.
Now, it is taking a very long time to 'boot'. The Phone is Locked screen would pop up, and I'd try to slide it off, and it would slide about half off. Screen black except for the clock of the lock screen. And after sliding off half way, the screen would go black, as if it was off, but then the lock screen would come back.
Kept thinking that ultimately it would finish. After a bit I got the task bar at top, and it was saying preparing internal memory'Preparing Internal Mass Storage"; then finally " Media scanner running". Finally a few icons from the dock. But everything else still black.
Then finally it would come up with a big message "Sorry!. Process system is not responding. buttons for Force close, and Wait. I don't know if that is an Android message, or an app message. I tried force close, and it went back into the same iteration of events.
So the next time i tried a boot, I did not respond to the message for a while, and it seemed to be making progress behind the message. It went off, I turned it back on, it had lock screen, moved it off a bit easier.
Then finally it came up more screen things in place. Then again with a message "Process system is nto responding". Let it set 'til it went off again. This time it came up a bit futher, and this time it came up with window to select launcher. I selected TWiz launcher. Process message again, and I killed it this time.
Whewh...Still not resolved.
I guess if there are any suggestions short of hard reset, i'm interested in hearing. maybe one of you have had this happen. If it ever finishes loading, first thing I'm going to do is remove that game.
One thing that is a pain and I think contributes, is that so many apps load by default it seems. And the more you install the more that happens, from what I have seen. I know I don't have as many apps installed as I've seen others reference, but I do have 2-3 different memory type utilities that I've wondered if they woudl interfere with each othre, but they supposedly don't all load at boot.
Post long enough. I'll add more if I find anything interesting.
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Well, the above post exactly describes what I have on my Captivate as well. Long boot times, "process system not responding", black screens, media scanner running/completed repeatedly, severe lagging...
Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this issue? I've uninstalled my most recent apps, but it has not made any difference. Many thanks for any guidance!
Sounds like both of you need to restore to stock...Look in the Dev section for the Stock Odin3 1 click post..it is a sticky so it should be up towards the top..Follow the instructions and you will be back to stock...
The problems I mention above occur mostly during a reboot. The phone does eventually come up, with only occasional lagging still left (which may be more typical). I am torn between dealing with the lagging until Froyo is released (hopefully later this month) or perform the "restore to stock" you mention.
If I decide to "restore to stock", does that mean I lose everything? apps, messages, config, customizations, etc.
And if I lose everything, can I restore some apps with Titanium Backup? TB was loaded 2-3 weeks ago and I do have a full backup.
When Froyo comes, will it require the same or will it upgrade the existing OS and leave apps alone?
Many thanks for your response jhernand1102
I did that too, I sett a replacement lock screen wrong (because it asked me too) and there I was with out s phone for a few hours. The one click odin didn't work for me though. So I used the updated stock rom jh2 i believe. Look for the stock rom threads in developers forum as well as the one click odin.
If the one click odin doesn't work feel free to pm me with questions on the other rom.
Make sure you read it but they is a lot there that may confuse you.
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With titanium backup you should be fine. I haven't used it but that's the point of it. A reflash may be easier the finding the error and correcting the problem. And during any flash you may have some risk of losing something but I don't think, going to froyo will lose apps by design. Anyway you have titanium backup and samsung kies to help you keep everything.
Good luck!
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tone_la said:
Well, the above post exactly describes what I have on my Captivate as well. Long boot times, "process system not responding", black screens, media scanner running/completed repeatedly, severe lagging...
Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this issue? I've uninstalled my most recent apps, but it has not made any difference. Many thanks for any guidance!
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I guess I forgot to post back what I had to do...having had no replies at all. I think I ended up in another thread.
Anyway...I did in fact have to reflash. Using the one-click which I believe is this thread is what I used.
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I guess I forgot to post back what I had to do...having had no replies at all. I think I ended up in another thread.
Anyway...I did in fact have to reflash. Using the one-click which I believe is this thread[/URL] is what I used.
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Thanks to all for replying today! I will go ahead and re-flash to stock. I was hoping it would be longer (a few months) before I'd have to re-load, but I guess when you live on the edge (root and lots of installs), ya gotta be ready for things to go wrong.
I do love this phone though and Android after being on a BB for so many years! It is pretty much a 1.0, so we should expect bugs and work arounds until they work the kinks out. In a crazy sort of way, it is still fun to work through these gotchas. Thanks again!
Yeah. I really hated the idea of a reflash.
but, if you haven't yet, you need to look in the DEV thread, and look into Clockwork Mod and Rom Recovery. As well, you should get teh paid version of Titanium backup.
Between those two things, occasional reflash and reload is not too painful.
I've learned so much today! Got the paid version of Titanium Backup for an easy "restore all via batch" and also did the ROM Mgr / Clockwork Recovery (thanx ewingr). So, I now have the best of both worlds for getting out of a jam and looking forward to trying out any new ROM's that may come out; with ease thanks to these apps!
My newly bought shiny LGO3D phone has a habbit of randomly shutting itself down no matter what ROM / Firmware i have on it.
I've tried stock, king ROM, and a few others. all randomly shutdown. i wouldnt mind if it had rebooted by itself at least it would come back on but it just goes off!
i reach into my pocket -- lo and behold the phone is off!
I've read lots of Optimus2x threads about a similar issue ... some blame the android system and some blame the hardware.
i wonder why there isnt a log in the android system describing an error or whatever?
can anyone help?
maybe your battery is a bit loose?
go stick some strips of paper at the bottom edge of the battery to make sure its nudged tight.
not sure, maybe a possible solution
i think i may have solved this issue...
what i did was this:
install CWM and reboot into the CWM menu.
i deleted everything. cache, delve cache, battery stats, everything thats deletable i did it.
i am currently using king_rom (which was doing the same problem for me to start with) and i can say the phone has been running ok for about 2 days now.
keeping fingers crossed.
usually cache + dalvic + battery states are deleted on every rom flash
if it appears again pull out your sdcard
fixed all reboot issues for me... wonderful to have a phone able to play 3d + record 3d/1080p and cant use a sdcard
hoping the 2.3 update will fix it
Blezz said:
usually cache + dalvic + battery states are deleted on every rom flash
if it appears again pull out your sdcard
fixed all reboot issues for me... wonderful to have a phone able to play 3d + record 3d/1080p and cant use a sdcard
hoping the 2.3 update will fix it
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i never sacrificed the sdcard though its in there and its working fine.
I have been running CleanROM Seven for sometime without any problem or issues. In the last few weeks it has been glitching something awful! The screen blinks whenever I try to load an app or really do anything at all. Sometimes it blinks between the old and the new screen (like when swiping from page to page I'll see the page I was on and the page I am going to back and forth very quickly). Other times I see vertical stripes that alternate from the screen and black bars.
Restarting the phone worked for a while and then it stopped working, so I reflashed the ROM and that worked for a week or so and now it's back. I really, really, really want to avoid any kind of reset that involves the removal of my contacts or anything of that nature (I always back up before a reset, and I always end up missing stuff like contacts that I had). Either a fix to this problem or a ROM that I can flash without having to reset would be great.
Pard68 said:
I have been running CleanROM Seven for sometime without any problem or issues. In the last few weeks it has been glitching something awful! The screen blinks whenever I try to load an app or really do anything at all. Sometimes it blinks between the old and the new screen (like when swiping from page to page I'll see the page I was on and the page I am going to back and forth very quickly). Other times I see vertical stripes that alternate from the screen and black bars.
Restarting the phone worked for a while and then it stopped working, so I reflashed the ROM and that worked for a week or so and now it's back. I really, really, really want to avoid any kind of reset that involves the removal of my contacts or anything of that nature (I always back up before a reset, and I always end up missing stuff like contacts that I had). Either a fix to this problem or a ROM that I can flash without having to reset would be great.
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You can't really flash a new ROM without wiping because then you'd face a whole new set of issues.
If you're missing contacts, back them all up to Google through settings/accounts/Google/check contacts. That will help you avoid anything with contacts.
For apps, back them up with titanium backup, but only backup user apps and data. Do not backup system data or apps as this will cause issues as well.
My suggestion would be to do these things I've suggested, then nandroid backup, then wipe and flash bonestock. Its probably the stablest ROM around. Also the developer is really awesome and keeps up with most of the stuff.
Outside of that stuff, I can't really help you. Unfortunately there's not a safe way to flash without wiping.
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Just wipe all roms recommend it for a reason dont be lazy
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Pard68 said:
I have been running CleanROM Seven for sometime without any problem or issues. In the last few weeks it has been glitching something awful! The screen blinks whenever I try to load an app or really do anything at all. Sometimes it blinks between the old and the new screen (like when swiping from page to page I'll see the page I was on and the page I am going to back and forth very quickly). Other times I see vertical stripes that alternate from the screen and black bars.
Restarting the phone worked for a while and then it stopped working, so I reflashed the ROM and that worked for a week or so and now it's back. I really, really, really want to avoid any kind of reset that involves the removal of my contacts or anything of that nature (I always back up before a reset, and I always end up missing stuff like contacts that I had). Either a fix to this problem or a ROM that I can flash without having to reset would be great.
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the reason why we recommend that you wipe the device is that one rom might have features that won't work on another rom. there are other things that end up happening.
My neighbor's 5113 is having some strange issues I hope I can get some insight on. I've worked with a lot of Samsung phones and am very familiar with flashing, Odin, etc but have not worked with a tablet before.
First, it has 4.2.2 on it. I tried the stock software update function and it says it's up to date. Is that true? Is 4.2.2 the latest official for this device?
Second, It's having lock up issues (see below) so I thought I would "Clear Cache" in stock recovery. It starts going through the process and then errors out. It just flashes ERROR and then goes back to the stock recovery screen. I've never seen that before. Any ideas?
Lastly and most importantly, it locks up regularly. It will lock up with the screen on (although it seems to take longer to lock up with the screen on with some motion.) When the screen goes off it will lock up quickly, normally within 5 minutes and it even locks up when charging up. The charging animation stops and you have to hold the power button for 10 seconds to get it to come back to life. It's very strange. It even seems to freeze when it's off. It won't just start by pushing the power button for a couple of seconds, you have to hold it for 10 seconds until the charging animation pops up and then push the power button for a couple of seconds.
I haven't reset to factory specs because she has a ton of info on the thing and I'm afraid if it errors out clearing cache, what might it do if I try a factory reset?
Thoughts?
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE: I did a factory reset via stock recovery and it did delete all the data. It still will not let me clear cache though. It still locks up whenever the screen goes dark. It will lock up in just a couple of minutes.
Very frustrating.
I would try flashing the stock firmware and see if that clears up the locking problem, after a day or so I would flash CM11 with gapps and take it from there.
After running stock rooted before flashing CM11 do a nandroid b/u just in case it acts up. CM11 IS SUPER stable, have run it on my P5113 for several years starting with cm10.
CM12 is still buggy don't trust it.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
I would try flashing the stock firmware and see if that clears up the locking problem,
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Thank you very much PanchoPlanet. I factory reset and reloaded stock firmware several times but it would still lock up as soon as it went to sleep. And I still could not wipe cache. Very strange. I went so far as to not set up any accounts and make sure it didn't download any software updates to make sure it wasn't some update that was causing issues.
It would still lock up even when it was off and just supposed to be charging the battery! So I really think it's memory is trashed.
But I would be more than open to listen to any other ideas.
Thanks.
Maybe there could be other issues that you are not aware of, like the tab having been dropped or liquid damage or even voodoo, who knows.
Sometimes people don't disclose all the details.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Maybe there could be other issues that you are not aware of, like the tab having been dropped or liquid damage or even voodoo, who knows.
Sometimes people don't disclose all the details.
Pp.
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It looks to be in perfect shape. But in any event, if something like that happened then it's toast anyway.
Yeah, especially the voodoo. Lol.
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