[Kernel][9/5] - CleanKERNEL 1.2 -★| CPU OC 1.99 | GPU OC 300/500 | UV | VRALG1 |★-
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This Kernel is only compatible with ROMS running on the VRALG1 Base!
Do not use this kernel on any base newer than that!
This Kernel is NOT compatible with the latest version of CleanROM!
Features
CPU Overclockable to 1.99 GHZ (vs 1.5GHZ stock).
CPU Underclockable to 192MHZ (vs 384MHZ stock).
The CPU comes clocked at normal Samsung specs of 384MHZ low and 1.5GHZ high. You will need an application like System Tuner or Set CPU to overlcock it. This can also be modified by advanced users in the init.rc but is not recommended or supported. See first two blocks of init.rc for details.
GPU Overclocked at 300/500 MHZ
Under-volted just a few milli-volts to help save battery.
There are no fancy governors or other such things. Its a modified stock kernel, plain and simple.
This kernel should be compatible with any VRAGL1 based ROM such as (of course) CleanROM and Nosympathy's stock rooted base. Good chance it will work well with Team Synergy's ROM too but I have not tested that ROM but its a VRALG1 Based ROM.
If your ROM has non Samsung Boot Animation you will more than likely loose it!
Its been said that flashing a kernel can cause IMIE loss. I have not seen it myself but I guess its possible.
This kernel will NOT work with any AOSP, AOKP, CM9, CM10, etc based ROMS! If the ROM is not a based on official Verizon VRAGL1 ROM then dont flash this kernel!
Instructions
Must have an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! No exceptions!
Should make a complete Nandroid back up before flashing!
Copy ROM to storage and flash
Use your favorite CPU controller app to set the speeds.
WARNING!
Overclocking can permanently ruin your device. I mean totally kill it! You accept this fact upon downloading the kernel and or source!
I cannot and will not take any responsibility for what this kernel does to your device!
Not all devices can maintain the same level of overclocking!
Just because the kernel can clock to 1.89 does not mean YOUR device can!
Be smart and start off low and bring upt the speed gradually just like O/C'ing a desktop CPU!
To return to what you had before this... Restore your Nandroid back up! You did make that back up, right?
Changes in this version
9/5/12 - Version 1.2
Added: O/C to 1.99
Possibly Fixed: O/C not OC'ing on some devices
Possibly Fixed: gsiff_daemon fix?
Added: Optimaztions to file system
THANKS!
Thanks to dsb9938 for helping me get my box set up and to sbryan12144 for schooling me on the edits to make. Without their help I would still be looking at an empty Ubuntu desktop wondering where to go!
This Kernel is only compatible with ROMS running on the VRALG1 Base!
Do not use this kernel on any base newer than that!
This Kernel is NOT compatible with the latest version of CleanROM!
Downloads
Kernel HERE
MD5: F69F8AA037DCA3C03D5E6B22656FE684
Source HERE
MD5: 20907545F7CD5DF5717EA0101FFF054F
Donations accepted but not expected :angel:
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Benchmarks dont matter! But your going to ask anyways so I already ran the three most popular benchmarks and the results are below. Your device and ROM set up may NOT acheive these benchmarks.
All testing was done on a fresh install of CleanROM 2.0 SP1 with no background sync 1.89GHZ and Ondemand governor.
These benchmarks are the best of 3 or 4 runs each. They didint vary too much from this except Linpack. That thing is all over the place.
Do not expect to get these scores!
Next your going to ask me how the battery life is. Being a new kernel it doesnt have as much metering under its belt so you I will need your input on what you see. Obvisouly if you clock it up high you will see a decrease in battery life. Let me know what you are seeing.
Change Log
9/5/12 - Version 1.2
Added: O/C to 1.99
Possibly Fixed: O/C not OC'ing on some devices
Possibly Fixed:gsiff_daemon fix?
Added: Optimaztions to file system
8/24/2012 - Version 1.0
Initial Release
looks awesome
Excellent work!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Excellent work!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
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Thank you man!
on syn r52, clean kernel doesn't support bootanimation ?
can you add MD5 to post
Karl said:
on syn r52, clean kernel doesn't support bootanimation ?
can you add MD5 to post
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MD5's posted....
As stated in OP...
This kernel is based of the Samsung stock kernel for the Verizon based SGS3. The kernel does not deviate from the stock kernel except as noted below...
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In other words... No. Thats a Ramdisk edit anyways and not a kernel edit if I am not mistaken, no?
scrosler said:
MD5's posted....
As stated in OP...
In other words... No. Thats a Ramdisk edit anyways and not a kernel edit if I am not mistaken, no?
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my bad just glanced at the op :silly:
Karl said:
my bad just glanced at the op :silly:
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Its all good. I will post modified RAM disk that supports non Samsung boot animations later on... I just want to get a feel right now for the kernel and how it works out for people.
EDIT: But you do bring up a good point... I will post in the OP that you will loose custom boot ani's.
Nice work Scott, first kernel for the Verizon gs3 that under clocks the cpu!
Does it include a fast charge option??
Thanks again for your work! :good:
joaquinla1 said:
Nice work Scott, first kernel for the Verizon gs3 that under clocks the cpu!
Does it include a fast charge option??
Thanks again for your work! :good:
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No fast charge. It only modifies the stock samsung speeds of CPU, GPU and Voltage.
No other changes.
CPU Underclock to 192MHZ may need some tweaking. But I am pretty sure I know what it is... Seems to stick more at 384 than 192.
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No fast charge. It only modifies the stock samsung speeds of CPU, GPU and Voltage.
No other changes.
CPU Underclock to 192MHZ may need some tweaking. But I am pretty sure I know what it is... Seems to stick more at 384 than 192.
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I'm using CPU master and after clicking apply like 10 times it stuck at 192.
Guys keep in mind that by flashing a custom kernel you risk losing your IMEI number. This can happen at any time while running it, not just the act of flashing. It can be restored (even without a backup) but there's a good chance you'll be stuck in roaming afterwards. I've seen several people ask how to get out of roaming but they never receive concrete responses.
Several people have claimed this can only occur on AOSP roms/kernels, but this is false. I've heard reports of people losing IMEI on beans rom using imo's custom kernel.
Good job man
joaquinla1 said:
I'm using CPU master and after clicking apply like 10 times it stuck at 192.
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Nah, its sticking when you apply, but the thermald config may need some tweaking because it pushes it back up. So it doesnt seem like its sticking but its but then it gets overwritten.
Div033 said:
Guys keep in mind that by flashing a custom kernel you risk losing your IMEI number. This can happen at any time while running it, not just the act of flashing. It can be restored (even without a backup) but there's a good chance you'll be stuck in roaming afterwards. I've seen several people ask how to get out of roaming but they never receive concrete responses.
Several people have claimed this can only occur on AOSP roms/kernels, but this is false. I've heard reports of people losing IMEI on beans rom using imo's custom kernel.
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Wow, Thats crazy!
How does that happen?
sbryan12144 said:
Good job man
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I learned from the best!
Div033 said:
Guys keep in mind that by flashing a custom kernel you risk losing your IMEI number. This can happen at any time while running it, not just the act of flashing. It can be restored (even without a backup) but there's a good chance you'll be stuck in roaming afterwards. I've seen several people ask how to get out of roaming but they never receive concrete responses.
Several people have claimed this can only occur on AOSP roms/kernels, but this is false. I've heard reports of people losing IMEI on beans rom using imo's custom kernel.
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please provide reference
Karl said:
please provide reference
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Dont stress it... He said what he had to say. Maybe he is right. I put in the OP so...
Lets get to some feedback on the kernel itself...
This thing is lightning fast and has same battery life as stock. Been hammering on it all night
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Related
I'm starting this thread as I'd like a place to talk about the Fresh Toast kernel as it doesn't look like one has been started yet. If flipz decides to make his own thread at some point then we can delete this one.
The Following is from http://geekfor.me/evo/21/fresh-toast-experimental/
Geek For Me is proud to release:
Fresh Toast Custom Kernel for your Sprint Evo 4g
Experimental, and only available through Fresh Updater.
Fresh Toast was a popular collaboration rom by toastcfh and myself for the CDMA Hero. I am proud to announce that it’s now available for the Evo! Rather than being offered as a separate rom it is now going to be offered as an update/patch for Fresh Evo. If you are running Fresh Rom 0.5.3 or 1.0.0 (testers/donors only right now) then you can get the update by enabling experimental roms in Fresh Updater (more info below). There are 0 changes made to the rom itself other than drivers, all of the changes are in the kernel.
The release notes on this are going to be very brief right now, and so is support. Please report any issues that you guys come across but don’t be too surprised by that due to it’s experimental nature. You all are the testers!
Fresh Toast Features:
* CompCache / ramzswap
o This is actually already included in Fresh Evo, but thanks to the new kernel it is hard coded in there and works a lot better.
* Overclock available up to 1.27ghz, however it doesn’t seem to totally function above about 1.15ghz.
o Only tested with SetCPU. Should also work fine with Overclock Widget. Neither are included.
o If you are reporting OC issues then make sure to say which application you are using. And don’t report it if it’s related to problems when going above 1.1ghz.
* Undervolt — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_voltage_scaling#Undervolting
o This lowers the voltage required by the processor at lower clock speeds, thus reducing heat and battery drain.
* Ext4 support — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
o If using apps2sd then you can convert your ext partition to ext4. Read the wikipedia article for noted benefits.
o You can use AmonRA to convert from ext3 to ext4 without any data loss, just keep in mind that if you try using another rom that doesn’t support ext4 then it won’t be able to read it. Going from ext4 back to ext3 will require re-partitioning your sdcard.
* Both kernels contain extensive tweaks related to speed, power, VM, etc. More details and information to come on all of those tweaks.
* Brain F**k Scheduler aka BFS (optional) – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler
o One version of the kernel includes BFS and one doesn’t. BFS will definitely make your phone run faster but it’s done with a possible side effect of stability. Test it out and see if you have any issuers.
o If you are reporting any problems with Fresh Toast then make sure and say if you are using the BFS kernel or not.
o If you aren’t sure what a scheduler is: it’s basically what is responsible for queuing up work for the processor to do. From an engineering standpoint even though we can multitask on our phone, the CPU is technically doing only one thing at a time. A scheduler is what controls which job the CPU is working on and which ones are next. This replaces the stock android one with BFS.
Reporting an issue? Please give us which kernel number you are using (#13 or #20 — you can get this by going to Settings < About Phone < Software Information < Kernel Version) and also which overclock application you are using.
Download:
This can only be downloaded through Fresh Updater, and only if you are on Fresh Evo 0.5.3 or 1.0.0 (testers/donors only for now). Users coming from Fresh Evo 1.0.0 should not have to worry about wiping or doing anything special. If coming from 0.5.3 then a wipe might be required to get it booted, I didn’t test. Fresh Updater also has the kernels included with Fresh Evo so that you can go back to them if you have any issues with Fresh Toast. As always make sure you do a nandroid.
You must enable experimental roms in order to have them show up.
Fresh Updater > Menu > Configuration > Rom Update Settings > Display Experimental Roms — Then check for updates.
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I'm currently testing out the fresh toast kernels on the DC 3.2.3 rom, I'll post back about my findings soon.
edit: So far it doesn't appear to be working with the DC rom. It's just hanging on boot. I'll give it a bit longer but its already
been sitting on the intial htc EVO 4g logo for 5 minutes.
edit2: I've been unable to get the DC Rom to boot with either of the fresh toast kernels. even with a data wipe. i'm going to try
again.. if anyone else gets it working please post.
Does this have the fps uncap? N if so for which hardware?
madunix said:
Does this have the fps uncap? N if so for which hardware?
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it does not. given the tearing problem that the toast + epson fps fix kernel has, at this point I just want a kernel
that will enable over/underclocking. the fresh toast kernel fills that niche.
Actually we have been testing this Rom since it came out. Check the last pages of posts here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448&page=254
cds36 said:
Actually we have been testing this Rom since it came out. Check the last pages of posts here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448&page=254
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that thread is about the fresh rom, this thread is about the fresh toast kernel
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it does not. given the tearing problem that the toast + epson fps fix kernel has, at this point I just want a kernel
that will enable over/underclocking. the fresh toast kernel fills that niche.
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How is it functioning on DC 2.3.2?
blassilando said:
How is it functioning on DC 2.3.3?
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so far its not booting. i'm going to try a data wipe, but i didn't think that was necessary with kernels.
Relax just saying it is being talked about in his fresh rom thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448&page=248 anyone else can reference that as well as this thread.
cds36 said:
Relax just saying it is being talked about in his fresh rom thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448&page=248 anyone else can reference that as well as this thread.
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sorry if i said something to offend you.. it was not my intention at all
OneStepAhead said:
sorry if i said something to offend you.. it was not my intention at all
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No not at all man, no worries good to have a thread just for this rom. Flipz is doing some amazing work. I have installed a few roms and fresh has been the most stable for me. With this new kernel Rom for the first time I have seen a huge improvement in battery life. Can't wait to see what version 1 brings
does this kernel support the cams? didnt read anything one way or the other yet.
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does this kernel support the cams? didnt read anything one way or the other yet.
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Both work correctly.
If u wanna use my binary in dc or anything else ull have to extract the binary kernel from the boot.img and compile it with the ramdisk from the Rom u are going to flash it to. Also ill need to modify the ramdisk to run compache/ ramzswap scripts and grab the modules from the fresh toast build also. Add all that to ur build and flash the newly compiled boot.img and u should be toasted up
No Problems
No problems here - Flashed using Amon_RA recovery. Running Fresh 0.5.3 ROM.
Quick question - I've been running the Fresh Toast kernal with BFS pretty nicely for about a day now, but I'm still unsure about a few things. How does the undervolting work? Is it automatic if I underclock the CPU, or is it always undervolted? Right now I have SetCPU set to a max of 1152.
nowhere2010 said:
No problems here - Flashed using Amon_RA recovery. Running Fresh 0.5.3 ROM.
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which one of the kernels are you using
toastcfh said:
If u wanna use my binary in dc or anything else ull have to extract the binary kernel from the boot.img and compile it with the ramdisk from the Rom u are going to flash it to. Also ill need to modify the ramdisk to run compache/ ramzswap scripts and grab the modules from the fresh toast build also. Add all that to ur build and flash the newly compiled boot.img and u should be toasted up
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thanks, sounds like i have some more learning to do before I could pull something like that off. i'm unemployed at the moment so time is on my side
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which one of the kernels are you using
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I'm using the one with no BFS.
I just flashed the bfs kernel coming from the latest fresh Rom. I went toast CPU and my max is at 599????
Well, so far, we don't have a separate forum for Galaxy R (i9103) so I need to put in here...
OK, the kernel is ready. I have tested it using Quadrant benchmark, CF-Bench and continuous playing of asphalt6 & dungeon hunter 2 for hours. Smooth and without causing much heat
Below are the details of the kernel:
Features
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- For Samsung Galaxy R (i9103) only
- Based on Samsung open source, kernel version 2.6.36.3
- Added new frequencies: 1200 & 1300Mhz
- Setting of max 1300Mhz through SetCPU
- All stock frequencies are untouched: 216-1000Mhz
- Expose the voltage settings to be set through SetCPU
- Limit the boot up frequencies to be 216-1000 to avoid unstable boot up
- Simple IO Scheduler
- 2.6.36.4 patches
- Speed up framebuffer copy
- memory copy macros and functions fine tune
- Misc. kernel fixes
- Rooted (embedded su & Superuser.apk)
Download link
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Updated: 2011-11-16 2:40GMT
Version: 1.2
File: ardatdat_i9103_kernel_1.3G_v02_SIO.tar
Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?9d2t25rcqby5v4l
Mirror: http://www.zshare.net/download/961997663b9269b8/
MD5: 6E32FBCF65DADDFF42374218D494401A
Q & A
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Q: How to flash the kernel
A: Just flash the .tar file using Odin3 PDA (the same as flashing most of Samsung's android phone). Easily search xda forum for Odin3 and how to use it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262272)
Q: Will it delete all my applications, settings or files?
A: No. (should be..) It is a kernel, not ROM, therefore, nothing would be deleted
Q: What version of ROM is supported?
A: Kernel version is 2.6.36.3, it is proved to work on 2.3.4/2.3.5/2.3.6 ROM
Q: I don't need overclock (OC), can you make a non-overclock kernel?
A: The kernel itself supports max. of 1300Mhz. It doesn't mean that you need to operate in such frequencies. You can freely set your frequencies using SetCPU (for example, you can set 216/216 when screen off, and 216/1000). In such case, no OC will occur
Q: Will I be rooted after flashing this kernel?
A: Yes. I have modified the kernel to make it embedded with su & Superuser.apk
Q: How stable is OC? Will the battery drain fast? Will the phone get hot?
A: For 1200Mhz, it is quite stable. For 1300Mhz, I have experienced 1 program FC. Apart from that, I am using 216-1300Mhz for daily use and it is quite stable. Tested with asphalt6 and dungeon hunter 2 for over an hour, no FC occurs. Also, the battery doesn't feel hot (it is the advantage of tegra2 CPU )
Q: How can I revert back to the stock kernel?
A: If you have flashed CWM, and you have backup before you flash this kernel, you can choose (advance restore) to restore only the boot.img. Alternative method is to download the rooted stock kernel here (flash through Odin3 PDA): http://www.mediafire.com/?guhb64qy3h6sang
*** I will keep updating this kernel to make it better and better ***
*** Finally, flash at your own risk ***
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From the Samsung Open Source web site, I have downloaded the kernel source for i9103 and made modifications to it. It is good that this phone is equipped with Tegra2 CPU such that overclocking will not cause much heat problem and I can successfully overclocked to 1.3GHz
Below are some screen shots and I will release the kernel later today as I am still testing the new kernel.
For the first version, I will add in rooting (su+superuser.apk), SIO Scheduler, 2.6.36.4 patches and some minor kernel fixes. Stay tuned
(Quadrant score is: 4275)
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Machine setting
Score in Antutu benchmark:
Faster than Galaxy S2
Quadrant score:
Recommended SetCPU settings:
reserved .......
Great news, glad to see that there is some dev for I9103!
Do you have in mind ICS cooking?
And this mod kernel is for what version? 2.3.4? 2.3.5 or 2.3.6?
Good news!!! I'm very happy with the normal CPU speed but it's good to see any developers for this device!!
Google86 said:
Great news, glad to see that there is some dev for I9103!
Do you have in mind ICS cooking?
And this mod kernel is for what version? 2.3.4? 2.3.5 or 2.3.6?
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Well, for ICS, I have downloaded the source code (haven't compiled yet...). I think porting to ICS ROM will not be too easy ... as I lack all those hardware libraries and experiences. Let's wait ICS for Galaxy S2 and see how far we can reach...
This kernel is proved to work in 2.3.4 and 2.3.5. Should also be ok for 2.3.6
thats perfect then! I'm in 2.3.4 stock with rooted kernel, I think if you provide us a rooted kernel with optional OC that would be awesome , thanks!
Great news, thanks!
So great!!! Congratulations for your work ardatdat, could you confirm the ROM version? 2.3.4/2.3.5...
Wow,thats amazing man *-*
We are waiting impatiently your kernel
Thank you!!!
P.D: A beer for you
greets, really nice! :3
Details & download link for the kernel is updated in post #1. Try it out
Dose this work on galaxy Z ?
sorry for noob question.... if my phone not rooted can i use this kernal?
Sent from my GT-I9103 using XDA App
zam117 said:
sorry for noob question.... if my phone not rooted can i use this kernal?
Sent from my GT-I9103 using XDA App
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Yes you can. And you wil get rooted after flashing this kernel.
Inkax2 said:
Dose this work on galaxy Z ?
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Galaxy r=z
Please see more info on google: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/21/samsung-galaxy-r-galaxy-z-those-living-outside-sweden/
G R E A T !!!!!
Ps.: why on XDA do not exist a subforum dedicated to Galaxy R?
Thank you! I flashed it and works great. Although there isn't anything this phone was slow at, so only the various benchmark apps tell me it is actually faster!
Thanks for the Root kernel with OC.
Appreciate it alot.
1 step forward to get custom roms.
Can you also share which CWM you used and how ??
Thanks alot.
PS : Does this kernal work with ANY stock rom for 9103 ?
mrsaccess said:
Thank you! I flashed it and works great. Although there isn't anything this phone was slow at, so only the various benchmark apps tell me it is actually faster!
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Try some Live wallpaper and Gallery widget slideshow, and you will notice lag, but I don't think that's related to CPU clock. Not to mention that color palette is scaled down to 65000 colors (just look at the Microbes Live Wallpaper).
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s4sixty said:
Thanks for the Root kernel with OC.
Appreciate it alot.
1 step forward to get custom roms.
Can you also share which CWM you used and how ??
Thanks alot.
PS : Does this kernal work with ANY stock rom for 9103 ?
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I gues since there is no any custom roms it only works with stock ones
s4sixty said:
Thanks for the Root kernel with OC.
Appreciate it alot.
1 step forward to get custom roms.
Can you also share which CWM you used and how ??
Thanks alot.
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There is a CWM version 4.0.0.2 that works with the phone. I just found (and flashed) today myself.
I found it at a Chinese forum and at a Spanish forum. Downloaded from both and had the same flashable tar (checked with diff), though different apks (which I didn't install anyway).
Try it from here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q33VEDF0
I am terribly sorry but I can't find from which forum I originally got this link. It isn't mine work of course.
After flashing with ODIN (the same way you flashed the rooted kernel), to enter into recovery turn on the phone and while it is on the Galaxy R boot screen, press voulme up and home together. Do not press them before powering on because your phone won't turn on, instead it may block and you will have to remove the battery for some seconds.
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nedooo said:
Try some Live wallpaper and Gallery widget slideshow, and you will notice lag, but I don't think that's related to CPU clock. Not to mention that color palette is scaled down to 65000 colors (just look at the Microbes Live Wallpaper).
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Will do!
I ported Cyanogenmod 9 for the Hero build by Jordfaz. (Thanks to him!)
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Downloadlink: Cyanogenmod 9
Installation:
- Flash Lights_format_all (See other thread!)
- Flash CM9
- Reboot
- 32B: Flash a 32B kernel after flash of the ROM
After installation
- After boot: Go to ADWSettings - system - advanced - enable wallpaper hack and scroll cache: low quality --> This will fix your UI.
- To disable CRT-animation: Displays - animation OFF (Thanks toi SaySpaceman! ;p)
Working:
- Calls/SMS
- Data
- Youtube!
- Screenshot!
- Perfect rotation!
- ...
Not working:
- Bluetooth
- GPS
Changelog:
Code:
-- Cyanogenmod 9 --
v1.0
* Initial release
Hit the THANKS button, if you use this ROM!
I will complete this thread at a later time, but for the next month I'll have to study a lot , so maybe no time for uploading and completing thread.
You can disable the CRT animation. You go to Settings->Display->You turn off the Screen off animation.
I haven't found any bugs yet, everything works very smooth and even YouTube works! :good:
I think this is the best ROM for our "legacy" device
SaySpaceman said:
You can disable the CRT animation. You go to Settings->Display->You turn off the Screen off animation.
I haven't found any bugs yet, everything works very smooth and even YouTube works! :good:
I think this is the best ROM for our "legacy" device
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Thank you! Didn't know you could manually enable/disable it.
i really want to try this rom in my old htc magic!
I would like to know wich recovery do you use and recommend to flash your rom.
another question is the funcionability of the apps with this rom
thank you for all your work for "our" device.
stiker said:
i really want to try this rom in my old htc magic!
I would like to know wich recovery do you use and recommend to flash your rom.
another question is the funcionability of the apps with this rom
thank you for all your work for "our" device.
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I think you can only flash it with CWM recovery.
All apps that work on GB, will work in ICS.
But the Play Store will show a lot more apps, but a lot of them will force close when you try to open them.
But in general, everything should be smoother.
ok. This rom is good. But it is slow when download from playstore. Thanks!
Thanks for CM9, i was looking for some stable rom
I will try this ROM and will let u know my findings
Thank you for porting this over. I have neglected my HTC Magic for quite some time now, finally got it out, dusted it and went through the flashing bits for this. Stable and much smoother than I expected to have on a (relatively) dated device. Are the processor options under 'Performance' settings disabled or is it meant to be on 'ondemand' all the time?
Yanguang said:
Thank you for porting this over. I have neglected my HTC Magic for quite some time now, finally got it out, dusted it and went through the flashing bits for this. Stable and much smoother than I expected to have on a (relatively) dated device. Are the processor options under 'Performance' settings disabled or is it meant to be on 'ondemand' all the time?
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You can't change any options in Performance. I'll see if I can change that, because now, if the displayed CPU speeds are right, the CPU is constantly running on 710 Mhz when you used it.
Default cpu frequence 710MHz is not stable enough to bootup my phone, could you please lower down to 650MHz please?
jejer said:
Default cpu frequence 710MHz is not stable enough to bootup my phone, could you please lower down to 650MHz please?
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Did you try to flash it? My phone doesn't run on 710 either, but it does boot.
Yes, I flashed it. During boot, cat /proc/cpuinfo get 710MHz and boot failed. After set it to 620MHz, it bootup success.
Your ROM works great, thanks!
jejer said:
Yes, I flashed it. During boot, cat /proc/cpuinfo get 710MHz and boot failed. After set it to 620MHz, it bootup success.
Your ROM works great, thanks!
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Ok, thanks! I'll set it to a lower speed in next version.
I would really advise against overclocking by default. The majority of these devices can overclock to acceptable speeds, but others can't do much at all. My mytouch 3g, for example, would freeze at anything above 595mhz, and it was most stable at 537 or below. So even with that lower overclock you decided on, I still wouldn't be able to use this without modifying the rom.
There are plenty of ways to make this recommended, but optional. You could put an oc script in a separate zip to flash. Or you could start using the fancy Aroma installer. Ezterry's yesno binary is really easy to implement.
tvall said:
I would really advise against overclocking by default. The majority of these devices can overclock to acceptable speeds, but others can't do much at all. My mytouch 3g, for example, would freeze at anything above 595mhz, and it was most stable at 537 or below. So even with that lower overclock you decided on, I still wouldn't be able to use this without modifying the rom.
There are plenty of ways to make this recommended, but optional. You could put an oc script in a separate zip to flash. Or you could start using the fancy Aroma installer. Ezterry's yesno binary is really easy to implement.
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I didn't know the cpu was running at a higher speed. I thought it was a bug in performance section, who was showing the wrong speed, since my HTC Magic normally freezes at 710 Mhz.
It's been years since I last flashed a MyTouch3G (32B)... Just got back one that I'd gifted away two years ago, it decided not to boot around Christmas and I brought it home to wipe/reflash.
Glad to see work still being done on this old device! It's ahead of my G2X in Roms.. That's effin sad.
Now if I can just remember how you flash a kernel on this thing....
EDIT:
I'm a bit confused about the kernel.... the thread linked doesn't actually seem to be any specific kernel??? More "how to flash a kernel safely" and hboot/radio files. I already have the required hboot/radio! So which kernel do I use??
EDIT 2:
N/m.... can't be assed to sit here all night trying to figure out which kernel to use on an antique phone. Went with Gingerbread instead.
tutorial and links - SPL/radio/ROM
lotherius said:
It's been years since I last flashed a MyTouch3G (32B)... Just got back one that I'd gifted away two years ago, it decided not to boot around Christmas and I brought it home to wipe/reflash.
Glad to see work still being done on this old device! It's ahead of my G2X in Roms.. That's effin sad.
Now if I can just remember how you flash a kernel on this thing....
EDIT:
I'm a bit confused about the kernel.... the thread linked doesn't actually seem to be any specific kernel??? More "how to flash a kernel safely" and hboot/radio files. I already have the required hboot/radio! So which kernel do I use??
EDIT 2:
N/m.... can't be assed to sit here all night trying to figure out which kernel to use on an antique phone. Went with Gingerbread instead.
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<<Check my signature below!>>
<<Goog flashing>>
Edited post (correction below)
Sorry for the wrong info on flashing your 32B device, I did not notice that your device was not a 32A sapphire but the 32B instead!
I think the answer you're looking for is here:
[ROM][WIP] United ICS - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647493
"kernel -
ezterry's kernel + ics patches and some performance tweaks (enabled 710mhz overclock and other things) http://www.mediafire.com/?py8asp6ab109dyl
ezterry's ezgb 1.5.2 http://sandbox.devnull.name/android/ezgb-kernel/ezgb-2636-v1.5.2_S.zip "
<< info from tvall - http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3038499 >>
lotherius said:
It's been years since I last flashed a MyTouch3G (32B)... Just got back one that I'd gifted away two years ago, it decided not to boot around Christmas and I brought it home to wipe/reflash.
Glad to see work still being done on this old device! It's ahead of my G2X in Roms.. That's effin sad.
Now if I can just remember how you flash a kernel on this thing....
EDIT:
I'm a bit confused about the kernel.... the thread linked doesn't actually seem to be any specific kernel??? More "how to flash a kernel safely" and hboot/radio files. I already have the required hboot/radio! So which kernel do I use??
EDIT 2:
N/m.... can't be assed to sit here all night trying to figure out which kernel to use on an antique phone. Went with Gingerbread instead.
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You have to take a working 32B kernel, preferably a flashable zip. The link in the opening post isn't directing to a kernel, but search for it in the G1 section and you will find a lot kernels.
ICS is much faster, so I would suggest you try it.
Can you point me into the right direction? My dad has an old Magic 32B with Radio 27.08. What Kernel should i use? Or what ICS Version are you talking about?
Thanks in advance.
when is out the final version?
Hello,
Before start working on the kernel 3.0 branch, I think we should have a good kernel for CM10A4 because 3.0 would take a while. So, I created this kernel.
Release:
Final - Jan 2, 2013
This is the final release. Only minor optimization are included. Dhiru already patched all necessary code to his kernel. I though about backporting DSSCOMP and ION but it seems not worth it. From now on I'll focus on the 3.0 branch. Happy new year to all. :laugh:
R1 - Dec 28, 2012
Overclock to 1.35GHz but boot at stock (Vurrut)
No signal fixed (loSconosciuto)
Noop, CFQ, SIO schedulers
Various governors
Based on Dhiru CM10 kernel
How to flash:
- Download it to your storage
- Reboot to recovery
- Flash it as a zip file.
How to restore to stock:
Download and flash "kernel-cm-10-A4-restore.zip" from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029921
Disclaimer:
As always, It is your responsibility to use this. I wouldn't take any blame.
All credits are given to:
- Dhiru
- Vurrut
- XDA_Bam
- loSconosciuto
- Adi_Pat
- UtterChaos
kool will give it a try
Features??
Thanks. But please post details such as governors and IO schedulers, boot @ 1GHz etc.
now we have 3 devs working on kernel 3.0 ))really nicee
:good:
Guys, try it out. If you don't like it, you can reverse to standard CM10A4 anytime.
Thanks for this crackerizer. I Was just recently thinking about the lack of an overclock kernel for Alpha 4 and you came up with this. Great job! :highfive:
Just the type of steriods needed right now
Thanks bro
Flashing it right away
Edit: kernel works properly, no issues yet.
rom is now much smother
Will report battery after 2-3 cycles.
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1200MHz - very unstable
When I was on bam kernel (gingerbread), my phone was very stable (OC 1200), no random reboots or something like that.
On this kernel - 5min and 3 reboots and a lot of FCs :/
Edit:
1100MHz = the same problems like on 1200 and 1300
rascal0pl said:
1200MHz - very unstable
When I was on bam kernel (gingerbread), my phone was very stable (OC 1200), no random reboots or something like that.
On this kernel - 5min and 3 reboots and a lot of FCs :/
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For me it's quite the opposite. On Bam Kernel or Vurrut my phone use to lock up as soon as OC applied to 1.35GHZ. Now it stays without any problem.
Ha thanks for the super team of developers. Now the room is smoother than ever(until 3.0)thanks to the overclock and stuff. Plus great there is the signal fix with it.
rascal0pl said:
1200MHz - very unstable
When I was on bam kernel (gingerbread), my phone was very stable (OC 1200), no random reboots or something like that.
On this kernel - 5min and 3 reboots and a lot of FCs :/
Edit:
1100MHz = the same problems like on 1200 and 1300
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Mine running at 1.35Ghz without any problem (the phone is a little hotter than other speed). I do a lot of gaming (most are 3D).
Is your phone stable at stock speed? I think some phones may not be able to overclock.
i want to flash your kernel,but how to back to stock dhiru kernel?
MR.Volkf said:
i want to flash your kernel,but how to back to stock dhiru kernel?
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Reboot into recovery.. Go to backup-advance-backup boot.. So do u can restored back the previous kernel..
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Just make a confirmation here, it work on JellyBam V.3.1.0
Here's some screenshots of the kernel.
1.
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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3.
4.
5.
@Crackerizer : You can use this screenshot for your Kernel, Keep Developing this kernel
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Rom is definitely smoother and with OC games lag way less....
But got one feedback on the camera. Image preview is very much distorted.Too many flickers.(during video recodring too)
Never had this issue in the stock kernel or loSconosciuto's signal fix kernel.
can you please look into the issue ? and can someone else confirm this ?
mdaamir1989 said:
Rom is definitely smoother and with OC games lag way less....
But got one feedback on the camera. Image preview is very much distorted.Too many flickers.(during video recodring too)
Never had this issue in the stock kernel or loSconosciuto's signal fix kernel.
can you please look into the issue ? and can someone else confirm this ?
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This is a bug for CM10. I think it will be fixed when kernel 3.0 is ready.
Anyway, The recorded video is ok. :good:
crackerizer said:
Mine running at 1.35Ghz without any problem (the phone is a little hotter than other speed). I do a lot of gaming (most are 3D).
Is your phone stable at stock speed? I think some phones may not be able to overclock.
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No, this kernel is unstable even on 1000MHz
and,
as I said, on gingerbread 1200MHz (BAM kernel) was very stable, without any FCs and reboots, so my phone is able to OC.
rascal0pl said:
No, this kernel is unstable even on 1000MHz
and,
as I said, on gingerbread 1200MHz (BAM kernel) was very stable, without any FCs and reboots.
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If its unstable don't use it. U might risk the chances of burning your chip .
OC is stable for me. Works fine.
rascal0pl said:
No, this kernel is unstable even on 1000MHz
and,
as I said, on gingerbread 1200MHz (BAM kernel) was very stable, without any FCs and reboots, so my phone is able to OC.
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It depends on the hardware you have, try a different OC or roll back.
Hello everyone!
First of all, let me say that customizing the kernel requires a custom kernel! Second, it requires an app if you are on the stock ROM - NoFrills, SetCPU, ROM Toolbox Lite - they all have the ability to change voltages, clock speeds, I/O schedulers, and governors. If these words are unfamiliar, please keep reading!
I would like to use this thread as a Q&A about kernels, the options provided with custom kernels, and how they can help (or hinder!) your device.
If you would like to download a custom kernel, see my thread in the original android dev section. Kernels for stock ROM's or CyanogenROM are available in that thread. Currently the kernels for CM are testing well on Carbon.
In addition, pir8man's post is a great guide on how-to get the most out of your kernel tweaking experience .
Please let me know how I can improve this thread. Thanks!!
Governors
So far I have added a few governors, and I am planning to add more.
A governor in the kernel is used to adjust the clock speed in response to load. This can affect battery life, and performance - depending on what you choose.
Want more information? This thread has a TON of information on kernel governors.
I/O Schedulers
First, I am going to bring the I/O schedulers up to speed with the CM kernel - as it already had additional I/O schedulers over the stock kernel.
The I/O scheduler is just like it sounds - simply, it schedules how input and output is queued throughout the system.
If you want more information on schedulers, see this Wikipedia article. In addition, here is a great post from another forum member.
Custom Voltages
Right off the bat, people were asking for custom volting - I didn't realize this was not available, but I have enabled the ability since v0.14.
In tinkering with voltages, it seemed lockups were all over. So I started looking around, and I stumbled across a great post:
FYI, my dmesg said 'nominal', but take it with a grain of salt... you might want to check your processor before using these tables. Note - if you get a failure on GREP, then you probably don't have busybox tools installed. Please find it on the Play Store, thanks.
x714x said:
Your cpu is probaly a "slow" pvs. Flash leankernel then in a terminal do ...
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su
dmesg | grep ACPU
This will tell you what type you have and where you can start off on undervolting.
Per imoseyon....
imoseyon said:
Here are the recommended starting point voltages (kernel default) for each PVS type. Format: frequency (in Khz),voltage (in kV).
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SLOW
Code:
384000,950000
486000,975000
594000,1000000
702000,1025000
810000,1075000
918000,1100000
1026000,1125000
1134000,1175000
1242000,1200000
1350000,1225000
1458000,1237500
1512000,1250000
1620000,1250000
1720000,1275000
1809000,1300000
1900000,1325000
Code:
Nominal
Code:
384000,900000
486000,925000
594000,950000
702000,975000
810000,1025000
918000,1050000
1026000,1075000
1134000,1125000
1242000,1150000
1350000,1175000
1458000,1187500
1512000,1200000
1620000,1200000
1720000,1250000
1809000,1250000
1900000,1300000
Code:
FAST
Code:
384000,850000
486000,875000
594000,900000
702000,925000
810000,975000
918000,1000000
1026000,1025000
1134000,1075000
1242000,1100000
1350000,1125000
1458000,1137500
1512000,1150000
1620000,1200000
1720000,1250000
1809000,1250000
1900000,1300000
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Running Jelly Bean along with newest kernel. Max is 1.026, min is 96, smartass v2 and deadline. Smooth as can be and battery life is great. I am a heavy user (phone calls, 2 emails updating every 15min, lots of texts and even navigation). Thanks again Arrrgh, although you did take my user name. I toast a shot of rum to you
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Aaargh! said:
Running Jelly Bean along with newest kernel. Max is 1.026, min is 96, smartass v2 and deadline. Smooth as can be and battery life is great. I am a heavy user (phone calls, 2 emails updating every 15min, lots of texts and even navigation). Thanks again Arrrgh, although you did take my user name. I toast a shot of rum to you
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Yea, but I had it first
Glad you like it! I'm going to try and finish up adding schedulers to the stock kernel to bring it on par with the current CM kernel. Then there's a few more governors I heard about, and then...? Perhaps I'll take another crack at overclocking - the 8960 should be able to do 2.1ghz.
Thanks for the post arrrgghh! Running the terminal command, my phone also returned 'nominal.' I've been running the corresponding baseline settings all day without a hiccup. Next up I'll try to ease them down a bit. I think my problem before was getting too aggressive with undervolting the upper frequencies. Can't say I've got enough use to comment on battery life, but the phone seems to be running cooler. :thumbup:
I ran the terminal command and got like a bazillion lines displayed. Is that normal or did I do it wrong? If that is normal, is there an easy way to find the cpu type?
Edit: Disregard ... I think its cuz of the kernel I'm on since I'm still on ICS. I reverted because there's a few apps I use that haven't been updated for JB yet. I'll definitely come back to this once undervolting is an option for me.
sixxt9 said:
I ran the terminal command and got like a bazillion lines displayed. Is that normal or did I do it wrong? If that is normal, is there an easy way to find the cpu type?
Edit: Disregard ... I think its cuz of the kernel I'm on since I'm still on ICS. I reverted because there's a few apps I use that haven't been updated for JB yet. I'll definitely come back to this once undervolting is an option for me.
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Did you use the GREP command on the end?
Pipe ( | ) is a very powerful character in the command line, it redirects output to another program basically. So GREP will find all instances of 'ACPU' so you won't have a bazillion lines .
But yes, I would need to update the ICS version of my kernel in order for you to be able to undervolt on ICS...
arrrghhh said:
Did you use the GREP command on the end?
Pipe ( | ) is a very powerful character in the command line, it redirects output to another program basically. So GREP will find all instances of 'ACPU' so you won't have a bazillion lines .
But yes, I would need to update the ICS version of my kernel in order for you to be able to undervolt on ICS...
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I'm assuming I mis-typed something somehow. Just tried it again and it displayed...
Code:
grep: no such tool
write: Broken pipe
Not quite sure what that's about. Running ASA-14 with v.10 of your kernel.
sixxt9 said:
I'm assuming I mis-typed something somehow. Just tried it again and it displayed...
Code:
grep: no such tool
write: Broken pipe
Not quite sure what that's about. Running ASA-14 with v.10 of your kernel.
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Huh, perhaps you don't have busybox installed? (It usually "comes with" root...)
Not sure why else you would get that error.
arrrghhh said:
Huh, perhaps you don't have busybox installed? (It usually "comes with" root...)
Not sure why else you would get that error.
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Hmm ... I don't remember ever installing busybox. I unlocked bootloader, flashed custom recovery and flashed SuperSU and that's more or less all I've done from a rooting standpoint. I'll see about installing busybox and see if that makes a difference. I wanna have a good idea of what I'm working with so once I finally make the jump to JB I can hit the ground running. I'll post up my results shortly.
EDIT: No dice ... confirmed I have busybox installed. Even reinstalled it, but same error code. I wonder if it's due to this kernel version not supporting undervolting? I have no idea ...
Not having grep is usually the symptom of the lack of busybox... why don't you try installing it again, and reboot. ACPU did come up after reboot in my case.
Mine was 'FAST'...
I'll give it a shot and see what I can come up with. Does busybox need to be installed in ..../bin or ..../xbin? Or does it matter? Also ... what version of busybox are you running?
HI I tried it on CM10.1 but did not get any lines from grep.
sixxt9 said:
I'll give it a shot and see what I can come up with. Does busybox need to be installed in ..../bin or ..../xbin? Or does it matter? Also ... what version of busybox are you running?
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I just found one from Play market, and let it install them for me...
Yeah I confirmed I have busybox installed and everything. Tried both install locations and still nothing from grep. I'm thinking sincethe kernel I'm running doesn't support undervolting that's why I don't get any results. No worries. Once I can officially move to JB, I'll try again and go from there. Not unless arrrghhh wants to make another ASA-14 version of the kernel with all of the 0.18 changes. No rush from me either way.
sixxt9 said:
Yeah I confirmed I have busybox installed and everything. Tried both install locations and still nothing from grep. I'm thinking sincethe kernel I'm running doesn't support undervolting that's why I don't get any results. No worries. Once I can officially move to JB, I'll try again and go from there. Not unless arrrghhh wants to make another ASA-14 version of the kernel with all of the 0.18 changes. No rush from me either way.
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I don't see any reason to, why would anyone stay on ICS? There's JB now
As for why grep isn't working, not sure. You can always just run the dmesg command, redirect it to a file, then search that file.
Any hint/ why i wont get any lines from grep?
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arrrghhh said:
I don't see any reason to, why would anyone stay on ICS? There's JB now
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I have a couple apps that I use that haven't been updated for JB yet. All the ones similar to them I just don't like. So I'm just willing to wait until that gets updated or until I have time to learn how to code and update it myself.
EDIT: btw ... the main developer for one of the apps in question is in the military currently overseas and won't be back til the fall. That's the main reason I'm in no hurry. We'll hopefully have a fully functioning 10.1 by then lol