What I'd both apple and Samsung both win? - General Topics

Would would happen if the jury finds for both parties.. That is apple wins against Samsung but also the jurry finds that apple also used.Samsung patents as well....
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Come on... If they both win....
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There is already a thread for this discussion that has been open for a few weeks now in this very forum on this very page.
Apple Vs. Samsung Lawsuit: Details of the Patent War of 21st Century

This is different this deals only with if they both win. So they ate not the same. This if after the verdict
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They both will win and they both will lose, and the appeals will come.
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They can't both win or both lose. Surely as the jury have to decide if samsung copied apple, they can only say yes or no.
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the problem is that they will never stop accussing each other so this seems to me like an endless battle

Butt Samsung had its own cases a cross complaint. So they could say that Sam chopped apple and that apple used Sammy patents without permission
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mistermentality said:
They can't both win or both lose. Surely as the jury have to decide if samsung copied apple, they can only say yes or no.
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No, they both can win and lose. Its up to the jury to decide on what, 700 questions if I'm not mistaken. Samsung has a countersuit in the same trial.
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It would likely be like the korean outcome. Both banned both paying compensation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19364875
For samsung its bye bye to bounceback for apple its a bit more difficult as they infringed telecoms related patents.
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Apple Seeks To Ban Sales Of Samsung Galaxy S III In U.S. For Violating Siri Patents

This puts a smile on my face. I so hope this happens.
http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-see...axy-s-iii-in-u.s.-for-violating-siri-patents/
And why would you hope for this? I'm against any apple crap against android.
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Why would you hope that happens? That's just letting apple have their way, so whenever they don't like another company, they can just get there products banned. If they don't like competition maybe they shouldn't be in a business.
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kremer4 said:
And why would you hope for this? I'm against any apple crap against android.
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Or against windows phone, etc.
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It will leave the HXO as top dog for a little while longer.
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PLEASE OP LEAVE XDA.
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/smh
Any move by apple against Android hurts the platform.
moehagene said:
It will leave the HXO as top dog for a little while longer.
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this makes no sense. what benefit do you get from HOX being top dog? absolutely nothing. It is just hurting Android as a whole since they are attacking Android. I never understood fanboyism.
gunnyman said:
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Any move by apple against Android hurts the platform.
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I see it differently. Apple can probably afford to fight HTC's legal team.. but Samsung? Not so much.
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Wow just wow... It's like these effin phone companies are run by a bunch of 3yo's.
Why can't they just sell their stupid phones and stfu!!
I mean every phone makers needs to stop whining about.
"waahh!!! waaahh!!! wahhh!! They stole my buttons!! You can't do that that's my ideaaaaa ...(sniffle, sniffle) you copy cat, thats my icon boo hoo hoo!!"
Enough with this!!!
Attention all cell phone makers:
STFU and sell us your stupid phones!!!
We don't care anymore!
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stumpyz9 said:
Why would you hope that happens? That's just letting apple have their way, so whenever they don't like another company, they can just get there products banned. If they don't like competition maybe they shouldn't be in a business.
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This +1
This just goes to show that apple is afraid of any type of products that outshines their's.
I think this shows how low apple will go. I hope it happens for a short amount of time. And during that time I feel it will comeback and bite apple in the rear.
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moehagene said:
I think this shows how low apple will go. I hope it happens for a short amount of time. And during that time I feel it will comeback and bite apple in the rear.
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How do you know it's low? What if Samsung is truly stealing apples property? Doesn't matter how small it is if it's not theirs. I certainly hope this isn't the case but who knows? Samsung and apple are the only ones that know.
If I were samsung I would just stop selling them parts.
Then they'd be sued for breach of contract.
Apple is just suing everyone left and right these days.. smh.
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We can clearly see how apple is ****ting bricks because IOS isn't doing so good they know android is taking over so they just sue everyone ...
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brekec88 said:
If I were samsung I would just stop selling them parts.
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gunnyman said:
Then they'd be sued for breach of contract.
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Make the iPad screens just good enough to last a year then fail.
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shahkam said:
We can clearly see how apple is ****ting bricks because IOS isn't doing so good they know android is taking over so they just sue everyone ...
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Gess that's what happens when you only have a new device every few years.. iOs isnt really that awful but the phones are obsolete after 6 months.
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Apple Preliminary Injunction list (Skyrocket Included)

Just to add more apple-hate... The skyrocket is on the list they want to halt sales of. What does that mean for existing customers??
http://m.cnet.com/news/apple-targets-8-samsung-phones-for-sales-ban/57501103
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Nothing
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Nothing. If you already own it, you're fine. It just means, if its granted that is, no more Skyrockets will be allowed to be imported into the states. Retailers will be allowed to sell off their remaining stock, but their stock won't be replenished.
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Nothing
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How about an insured owner that puts in a claim for a new rocket? That's the scenario that worries me if the injunction goes through
Still nothing. Insurance claims would still be honored. This would only be for new sales.
There's a slight difference, if the phone is discontinued they will provide you with a similar or upgraded phone.
This happened to 1 of the phones on my account. Put in a claim to find out they couldn't replace it with the same model but they sent me the upgraded model free of charge and was still able to keep my original upgrade date which was 6 months later.
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Huh. I bought the HTC Aria. Then it was banned. Then I bought the Skyrocket. Now it's also banned.
I think I know what my next phone will be... kekekekeke
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iandr0idos said:
Huh. I bought the HTC Aria. Then it was banned. Then I bought the Skyrocket. Now it's also banned.
I think I know what my next phone will be... kekekekeke
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The fruit must burn
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Might end up with an S3 out of all this nonsense. Would love to go all fruit ninja on Apple!
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jondroid2 said:
Might end up with an S3 out of all this nonsense. Would love to go all fruit ninja on Apple!
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That's what I just had in mind based on the posts above. Doubt this will go through though. Perhaps a rushed JB build though.
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If this goes through, I'm literally going to explode. I know Samsung will once again top Apple in the bear future. When you see an apple fan boy trying to prove that iPhones are better he/she says "just wait for the iPhone 5", but we know it won't take Samsung very long to top it. Apple makes phones only about once every two years. And the "new" phone is usually just the same phone you already had, just in a different color/with one or two additional non-groundbreaking features. Samsung is always putting out new phones, and if Samsung doesn't beat apple then HTC or Motorola will. Apple's flaw is making the same phone over ans over again so when the newest one comes out your old one is soon rendered inferior. When Samsung started making the LTE GS2, the standard GS2 still was just as durable. Samsung made the S3, and the S2 certainly isn't surpassed by it. And Samsung has a variety of phones available. With apple you only get the 1, 2, 3, or 4, but why would you get an older model iPhone? The newest one is exactly the same with an improved display and is slightly thinner.
Sorry for the rant, but this whole Apple suit has had me pissed off.
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This will be overturned. The foreman was a patent holder: should not have been selected.
They also didn't even read the instructions. The damages were calculated because they wanted to punish Samsung, not compensate Apple.
Also, read up on this one court case... I can't remember the name right now. It's Someone v Borland.
EDIT: Lotus v Borland
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I find it hard to believe someone is going go collect on a one BILLION dollar settlement. I expect a string of appeals.
You get to keep your phone.
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iandr0idos said:
Huh. I bought the HTC Aria. Then it was banned. Then I bought the Skyrocket. Now it's also banned.
I think I know what my next phone will be... kekekekeke
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Get an iPhone please!
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gagb1967 said:
Get an iPhone please!
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I'd rather go back to using pagers, than to buy an iPhone.
Sully6789 said:
I'd rather go back to using pagers, than to buy an iPhone.
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Only until is also banned, come on man, take one for the team !
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My wife gets a kick out of me when we go out to eat and I spot someone with an iPhone. My usual remark to them is "Awe, what a cute little toy phone" The iSheep are so clueless!
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Software patents are evil. http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/why-software-patents-are-evil-188738
Just got a skyrocket for my wife yesterday going to see if she likes it or exchange it for another note.
jondroid2 said:
My wife gets a kick out of me when we go out to eat and I spot someone with an iPhone. My usual remark to them is "Awe, what a cute little toy phone" The iSheep are so clueless!
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So are you a droidsheep?
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Samsung sues after all.

Samsung is going to sue apple for the Iphone 5 and the ipad 3, for the eight patents that are standard for lte. Way to go Samsung!
http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/09/...?m=1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
I would love Samsung to destroy Apple...I know it won't happen but it would be nice to see Apple having to shell out for a change!
These patent wars are so dumb
spunker88 said:
Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
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I support Samsung but unfortunately the same thing will happen as always happens in US when apple use someone else's patents, the itc or a judge will rule those patents essential or say apple don't infringe.
Dave
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No matter what samsung does if they keep going to judge koh they will loose because she's on apple's side apple can violate all Samsung pattents and will say they're standards if Samsung wants a chance to win they will have to change to another jurisdiction.
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spunker88 said:
Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
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The iPhone 5 is selling well - it's time for Apple to pay for the patents they're using.
The wonderful Wozniak says he would rather everyone just trade patents and get back to making great products for three people, sadly he does not run apple. And that koh is full blown retard. No understanding of modern technology... Wonder if she uses an iphone....
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Honestly if the iphone goes or vice versa it would be bad for the economy with all those iphone lovers and buyers out there. The only reason the economy didnt suffer as much is cause the banned phones were not flagships like the gs3
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I'm really hoping for Samsung. Apple needs to stop this madness..
iKoolkid said:
Honestly if the iphone goes or vice versa it would be bad for the economy with all those iphone lovers and buyers out there. The only reason the economy didnt suffer as much is cause the banned phones were not flagships like the gs3
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The S3 is one of the devices apple are trying to add to the list of infringing devices as they want it banned from sale.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
The S3 is one of the devices apple are trying to add to the list of infringing devices as they want it banned from sale.
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Oh screw apple. I shall piss on them. I shall eat your apples.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/12/htc-and-samsung-will-likely-sue-apple-over-iphone-5
Looks like HTC might be in as well. Interesting seeing Apple potentially be on the other end of the courtroom.
Software patent system is so corrupt :/

go figure lg...

http://www.techspot.com/news/51115-...-blames-lg-for-erratic-and-scarce-supply.html
I bet we are gonna see some Nexus with defective parts soon...
*yawn*
go figure indeed. SSDD.
yep. sounds about right.
If Google is blaming lg for supply issues why is the nexus 10 made by Samsung also out of stock...
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Yeah, I'm really thinking this is due to the demand of these products that is surprising Google right now. I'm betting they probably at least doubled their orders compared to last years Nexus release. I mean these are supposed to be developer units and now they made it so enticing that everybody wants them. It's cray
Nexus 7 had terrible supply, too.
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The shortage is because LG and Samsung don't want to sell huge quantities of Nexus phones, it undercuts the sale of their overpriced branded phones so LG and Samsung are rationing their Nexus phones. Merry Christmas from LG and Samsung, Ha Ha Ha!
Or Google did not place a big enough order.
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Next generation?

Just read this news article...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-paper-flexible-screen.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Do I want one?.....erm HELL YES....lol....
Does my wife NEED one?......considering she's cracked her S2 screen......HELL YES..(doh)
Can we all now agree who the REAL innovators in the phone industry are. (instead of forcing the issue in the courts)
Think we all knew it all along.....
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