S-off with HTC Dev tool? - HTC Sensation

Just got my Sensation back from repair, so now it's already on 4.03 ICS. I remember from before there was some discussion of the new HBOOT version not being about to S-off. However, HTC offers the unlock tool. Just wondering if it's a bad thing to do using their unlock tool or does it matter?

Look at the S-OFF guides for 1.2x.xxxx HBOOTs.
The wire trick is a pain but does work.
EDIT: meant to say that I believe you don't need the HTC unlock thing now. I used it but......

newr said:
Just got my Sensation back from repair, so now it's already on 4.03 ICS. I remember from before there was some discussion of the new HBOOT version not being about to S-off. However, HTC offers the unlock tool. Just wondering if it's a bad thing to do using their unlock tool or does it matter?
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S-OFF and htcdev tool are two different things
htcdev tool only disables write protection on recovery partition - allowing you to flash custom recovery.
S-OFF unlocks all partitions including boot partition which means you can flash ROMs without flashing boot.img manually or needing to have 4EXT SmartSync on.
In short the htcdev tool is misnamed because it does not unlock the bootloader - only unlocks recovery

Jonny said:
In short the htcdev tool is misnamed because it does not unlock the bootloader - only unlocks recovery
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only recovery ? isn't it recovery,system,boot and data partitions ?

ganeshp said:
only recovery ? isn't it recovery,system,boot and data partitions ?
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Boot partition? no because you have to manually flash a boot.img with htcdev
system partition write protection is controlled by the OS and disabled by rooting - rooting allows the end user to give certain programs write permission. As to whether the recovery can access system and data partitions without unlocking the bootloader, I believe it can because stock recovery can overwrite system and data using OTA files controlled by a similar updater-script that we use in custom ROMs

Jonny said:
Boot partition? no because you have to manually flash a boot.img with htcdev
system partition write protection is controlled by the OS and disabled by rooting - rooting allows the end user to give certain programs write permission. As to whether the recovery can access system and data partitions without unlocking the bootloader, I believe it can because stock recovery can overwrite system and data using OTA files controlled by a similar updater-script that we use in custom ROMs
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If boot partition is locked then you can't even flash boot.img via bootloader using fastboot flash command.. I think it has some issue getting flashed from recovery.. That's all
First to get root itself you require write permission on system partition.. That means at the end you require system partition unlocked.
The stock recovery can only flash signed stuff.. Thus a signature check is made.. (at the end unlocking of partitions is nothing but removing sign checking of whatever we flash)
Iirc the FAQ of htc-dev mentioned about what partitions are unlocked.... And those are what I mentioned
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Root 2.10 ... simple ?

Hi
I just upgrade to 2.10 - sense 3.0 and unlock bootloader by htc dev.
I know to root is simple by flashing by botloader ClockWork Recovery end by recovery the super user app ... is true ?
Can u tell me how and where i can download these files ?
TNX
cattivik76 said:
Hi
I just upgrade to 2.10 - sense 3.0 and unlock bootloader by htc dev.
I know to root is simple by flashing by botloader ClockWork Recovery end by recovery the super user app ... is true ?
Can u tell me how and where i can download these files ?
TNX
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You can find the files and instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14693680
In my sig
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EASIEST WAY -
Download any recovery (i prefer 4EXT) and extract the recovery.img from the ZIP file. Flash this img usng ANDROID FLASHER, here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
All these solutions are good to s-on mode too ? After i unlocked bootloader by htc dev i need not to set s-on just I need root to use some software like titanium backup etc.
I can too create a zip file withe the recovery.img and put it in sd root to automatically recognize it by fastboot mode ?
TNX
cattivik76 said:
All these solutions are good to s-on mode too ? After i unlocked bootloader by htc dev i need not to set s-on just I need root to use some software like titanium backup etc.
I can too create a zip file withe the recovery.img and put it in sd root to automatically recognize it by fastboot mode ?
TNX
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The HTCDEV unlock process will not physically turn S-OFF on in HBOOT. It simply allows you to flash new image files in either FASTBOOT mode or using the Android Flasher.
I don't know if unlocking the bootloader will allow you to create and flash unsigned PG88IMG.zip files. You could try it and report back on the results. I'm sure others would be interested in knowing the answer.
tpbklake said:
The HTCDEV unlock process will not physically turn S-OFF on in HBOOT. It simply allows you to flash new image files in either FASTBOOT mode or using the Android Flasher.
I don't know if unlocking the bootloader will allow you to create and flash unsigned PG88IMG.zip files. You could try it and report back on the results. I'm sure others would be interested in knowing the answer.
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NO don't work by PG88IMG.zip, i used adb ... always the best way, so i rooted by su.
Now after root are not possibile, for the future, others htc ota upgrade ?
cattivik76 said:
NO don't work by PG88IMG.zip, i used adb ... always the best way, so i rooted by su.
Now after root are not possibile, for the future, others htc ota upgrade ?
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You should continue to get OTA notifications even though you are rooted, however, if you attempt to run the OTA update it will fail because you have a custom recovery in place.

[Q] What are the advantages of S-off?

I've been reading a little on this S-off thing and was wondering what its purpose actually is and what the advantages are from doing it? I know I was able to flash my HTC Vivid without it so what is it really used for? Thank you in advance.
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phrotac said:
I've been reading a little on this S-off thing and was wondering what its purpose actually is and what the advantages are from doing it? I know I was able to flash my HTC Vivid without it so what is it really used for? Thank you in advance.
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See: What Is S-OFF & How To Gain It On HTC Android Phones With unrevoked forever
In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag.
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---------- Post added at 11:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 PM ----------
Basically, if you are going to be installing custom ROMs, you probably want to set s-off so you can flash unsigned ROMs.
Very interesting. Thank you for responding That gives me something to think about.
In short. S-OFF allows you to change pretty much everything. Your CID, firmware (radio, hboot etc) and most important thing probably, allows you to flash older RUUs
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If you are going to be changing roms, themes, etc, then leave it off. If not then turn in back on.
kdub83 said:
If you are going to be changing roms, themes, etc, then leave it off. If not then turn in back on.
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I found the perfect ROM from WCX but I never had to use a wire on it though. Is HTCdev the reason why? I'm just trying to figure out this whole s-off thing because I saw a video where someone used a piece of insulated wire and was wondering why. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough with my questions earlier... My bad.
S-OFF
Hi - I've had HTC devices since the Eris way back in 2010 - currently running the Rezound. Hopefully I can shed some more light.
When I first got the Rezound I was coming over from an S-OFF Eris... if you wanted to flash something custom, you'd go to htcdev.com and use their "unlock bootloader" tool. Once you ran that and followed a few other steps, you are reverted to stock and your bootloader now has a little warning "unlocked" in the text at the top. This was in January 2012, and ROMs back then came with 2 things - the ROM and a Kernel. You had to flash the kernel separatley (and via the bootloader as opposed to a custom recovery), as S-ON (even unlocked) still won't let you write to certain places (in the case of the kernel, its the boot partition).
We got S-OFF several months later (the thing using the wire trick). In S-OFF - custom recovery can write to all areas of the device - no more need for any separate files, you just flash a ROM in custom recovery and everything is set up the way it should be. Added bonus - no need to unlock the bootloader from htcdev... so no "unlocked" warning message.
Here was my S-OFF process:
1. Run the official RUU exe to get your device back to stock with a Locked bootloader (backup any files on the SDCard first!).
2. Perform the wire trick
3. Flash a custom recovery and proceed with flashing ROMS
Let me know if I can clarify anything...
Basically allows you to flash RADIOS that have not been signed by HTC
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Ryan Kasper said:
Hi - I've had HTC devices since the Eris way back in 2010 - currently running the Rezound. Hopefully I can shed some more light.
When I first got the Rezound I was coming over from an S-OFF Eris... if you wanted to flash something custom, you'd go to htcdev.com and use their "unlock bootloader" tool. Once you ran that and followed a few other steps, you are reverted to stock and your bootloader now has a little warning "unlocked" in the text at the top. This was in January 2012, and ROMs back then came with 2 things - the ROM and a Kernel. You had to flash the kernel separatley (and via the bootloader as opposed to a custom recovery), as S-ON (even unlocked) still won't let you write to certain places (in the case of the kernel, its the boot partition).
We got S-OFF several months later (the thing using the wire trick). In S-OFF - custom recovery can write to all areas of the device - no more need for any separate files, you just flash a ROM in custom recovery and everything is set up the way it should be. Added bonus - no need to unlock the bootloader from htcdev... so no "unlocked" warning message.
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Thank you very much. That DOES explain it very well.
Ryan Kasper said:
Here was my S-OFF process:
1. Run the official RUU exe to get your device back to stock with a Locked bootloader (backup any files on the SDCard first!).
2. Perform the wire trick
3. Flash a custom recovery and proceed with flashing ROMS
Let me know if I can clarify anything...
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Are you saying I can make my bootloader say LOCKED again? I thought I could only make it say UNLOCKED or RELOCKED now that I've unlocked it. That is so awesome. And then the s-off will give me permanent root?
Are you saying I can make my bootloader say LOCKED again? I thought I could only make it say UNLOCKED or RELOCKED now that I've unlocked it. That is so awesome. And then the s-off will give me permanent root?
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Yup! Once you are S-OFF you will be back on the stock bootloader that reads "locked". There are a variety of HBOOTS (AKA Bootloaders) you can flash (well - there are for my device currently...). For the Rezound right now I have a variety of them with different verbages in the title (example - "locked S-ON", "Rezound") - or you can simply leave it at the stock HBOOT though you will not be able to flash, say a custom recovery, using fastboot in the bootloader via a terminal emulator (you have to use the PH98IMG.zip method in the bootloader)... Also the devs that made the wire trick available offer their own hboot "juopunutbear" - this one allows fastboot recovery flashing... - here for the vivid http://unlimited.io/jb_holiday.htm
Also - be VERY careful when updating the bootloader - it is a very common way to brick the device... I always check the MD5Sum before copying to SD and flashing.
And regarding permanent root - absolutely. Flash SuperSU from custom recovery (the zip version available here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Ryan Kasper said:
Yup! Once you are S-OFF you will be back on the stock bootloader that reads "locked". There are a variety of HBOOTS (AKA Bootloaders) you can flash (well - there are for my device currently...). For the Rezound right now I have a variety of them with different verbages in the title (example - "locked S-ON", "Rezound") - or you can simply leave it at the stock HBOOT though you will not be able to flash, say a custom recovery, using fastboot in the bootloader via a terminal emulator (you have to use the PH98IMG.zip method in the bootloader)... Also the devs that made the wire trick available offer their own hboot "juopunutbear" - this one allows fastboot recovery flashing... - here for the vivid http://unlimited.io/jb_holiday.htm
Also - be VERY careful when updating the bootloader - it is a very common way to brick the device... I always check the MD5Sum before copying to SD and flashing.
And regarding permanent root - absolutely. Flash SuperSU from custom recovery (the zip version available here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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This information is golden. Thank you very much
tinky1 said:
In short. S-OFF allows you to change pretty much everything. Your CID, firmware (radio, hboot etc) and most important thing probably, allows you to flash older RUUs
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Awesome! I have a couple more questions still *scratches head in confusion*...
Once I S-Off, can I reverse it if needed?
and
<Ignore this part... I found the information LOL>
What is an RUU? I have googled it and I can't find anything about it (maybe I'm just too tired or something)
phrotac said:
Awesome! I have a couple more questions still *scratches head in confusion*...
Once I S-Off, can I reverse it if needed?
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Yup - here is how I'd do it if I had to for my device - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612937 - careful if you do and read any warnings (brick opportunities again)
Hi,
It is possible, if I install custom rom, some function will not work without S-OFF?
The phone was routed and unlokced but it was S-ON.

apps back up etc...

Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
djp76 said:
Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
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Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
djp76 said:
I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
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ok forgive my stupidity does unlocking your boot oader give you root access?
If i use the official htc bootloader unlocker will it be the same as using one of the unlocking progs on here or do different versions have different benifits?
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
djp76 said:
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
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no, unlocking bootloader doesnt unlock most partition (you cant flash firmware), S-OFF unlocks all partition (its like actually owning the phone)
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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S-off directly. Don't bother unlocking bootloader. Avoid potential headaches
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djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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I'd go straight to S-OFF because with the newer version of JuopunutBear S-OFF you dont need to have htcdev unlock
The JuopunutBear download is here and the guide you need to follow by ganeshp is here
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
Here let me do some explaining for you. when you purchase your device it comes with the security on or what is referred to as S-ON. It also comes with a locked bootloader. Now what that means is that as long as you are S-ON you only have read permissions on the internal storage partitions of the device. The locked bootloader will not let you flash unsigned software to the device and it limits the fastboot and ADB commands you can use with the device. When you S-OFF your device you gain read and write permissions to all the partitions. But even after you S-OFF your device you still have to flash a unlocked bootloader or what is commonly called a eng Hboot to be fully unlocked as you can see by the above explanation.
Now to cover the difference between HTC Dev unlock and S-OFF via JuopunutBear. When you use HTC Dev unlock you gain write permissions to your system partition, recovery partition, and your boot partition. But unlike when you are full S-OFF and you just simply flash the ROM as one package via recovery. After using HTC Dev unlock you have to extract the boot.img and flash it via fastboot commands, or you can install 4EXT recovery and the 4EXT Recovery Updater app then enable Smart Flash to flash the boot.img. Now because you do not gain write permissions to all the partitions you can not flash splash screens, radios, or firmware packages when you use HTC Dev unlock.
Now to talk about root, when you root your device you essentially fully open up the line of communication between the OS and the Linux kernel. It allows the OS to have more access to hardware and to a certain extent software. This allows the user to get the full potential out of the device. Now to root the Sensation you just need to flash Superuser or SuperSU via recovery and then install BusyBox from the Google Play store. Now I had originally plained to go into further details and tell you what both are for but I will not right nowcause my stupid phone erased the original much longer post I had wrote when I went to another tab o my browser.
Go to Recognized Contributor malybru's stickie thread " A great starting point for all new Sensation owners" here in the Sensation General forum for links to everything you need to know.
djp76 said:
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
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Bugger! my HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported by revoloutionary what do i do now?
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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On your details abouit your phone it states that you s-offed using rev but rev said that hboot 1.27.000 is not supported
Any ideas?
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
djp76 said:
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
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Use soff by juopunutbear or do htc-Dev unlocked lock and flash roms while being SON.. For both there re guides in general section
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
djp76 said:
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
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no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
rzr86 said:
no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
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Ah yes thanks, i shall do that and see what happens

BIG Problem

My friend have a HTC SENSATION ICS, S-ON, UNROOTED.
He installed custom work mod recovery and then root via CWM with S-ON (if you can believe that)
Now, when i`m trying to use juoponut bear S-OFF , controlbear.exe tell me that Second Backup failed ...... press any key to exit.
What i have to do?
You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.
T-Macgnolia said:
You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.
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I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
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Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked
razvanwin95 said:
Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked
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Yes. Follow this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
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heavy_metal_man said:
I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
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You are very correct, the first version of JuopunutBear required you to be HTC Dev unlocked. But the currentveraion does not require it. Now to the best of my knowledge you have to have a locked bootloader to use Juopunutbear to S-OFF.
At the OP, yes you can flash ROMs while still S-ON, but you can not flash radios, rule, splash screens, orfirmwares while you are only HTC Dev unlocked. The guide that was linked will walk you through how to flash while S-ON but just remember to use fasboot to flash theboot.img or use 4EXT Recovery and enable Smart Flash.

[Q] Need info about bootloader mode and other stuff

Hi im new to htc and bootloader and all this stuff.
when i had galaxy s2 i knew everything about it. (download, recovery)
so here is what i need to know:
1.can i create a NAND backup of a stock rom and restore to it if i have s-on?
2.what doe's ***tampered*** in bootloader mode means?
3.when i flash a custom rom and i extract the boot.img do i have to remove it from the zip file itself?
Thanks for any HELP!!!!
LSGio said:
Hi im new to htc and bootloader and all this stuff.
when i had galaxy s2 i knew everything about it. (download, recovery)
so here is what i need to know:
1.can i create a NAND backup of a stock rom and restore to it if i have s-on?
2.what doe's ***tampered*** in bootloader mode means?
3.when i flash a custom rom and i extract the boot.img do i have to remove it from the zip file itself?
Thanks for any HELP!!!!
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1. No, if you have S-ON you can't create a NAND backup as you don't have a custom recovery.
2. ***TAMPERED*** means that an app or apps have gone into your /system/ partition, thereby triggering the tampered flag. You can remove this message by running a HTC RUU.
3. No, you first flash the zip file with the boot.img inside, then flash the boot.img in the bootloader. fastboot flash boot boot.img
1.i do have a custom recovery which i flashed with all in one kit. (i was able to flash it because i unlocked the bootloader but i dont know what s-off means and also supercid)
so can i do a nand backup of a stock rom and restore to it?
and i also wanted to know how to s-off and what are the differences between s-off and supercid?
LSGio said:
1.i do have a custom recovery which i flashed with all in one kit. (i was able to flash it because i unlocked the bootloader but i dont know what s-off means and also supercid)
so can i do a nand backup of a stock rom and restore to it?
and i also wanted to know how to s-off and what are the differences between s-off and supercid?
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Then yes you can make a backup and restore later. Just always full wipe, cache and dalvik cache wipe.
As far as flashing kernels/boot.img, if you are < hboot 1.13 then just flash via recovery. If your hboot is > or = to hboot 1.13tjen flash via fastboot or flash img GUI (available in the play store and in various threads).
And as of right now there is no s-off for the one s.
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LSGio said:
1.i do have a custom recovery which i flashed with all in one kit. (i was able to flash it because i unlocked the bootloader but i dont know what s-off means and also supercid)
so can i do a nand backup of a stock rom and restore to it?
and i also wanted to know how to s-off and what are the differences between s-off and supercid?
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S-Off means you have full access to all firmware partitions of the phone (I think, correct me if Im wrong). You can unlock the boot loader to gain access to the relevant partitions to flash a custom ROM even with S-ON.
The phone CID just represents the region it is from. For example HTC_TMOUS is for the One S used on the US T-Mobile network. When the phone checks for updates, it only downloads the one's relevant to the CID. SuperCID is 111111111 and represents the "developer" region you can download or run any update on a One S with super CID.
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S-Off means you have full access to all firmware partitions of the phone (I think, correct me if Im wrong). You can unlock the boot loader to gain access to the relevant partitions to flash a custom ROM even with S-ON.
The phone CID just represents the region it is from. For example HTC_TMOUS is for the One S used on the US T-Mobile network. When the phone checks for updates, it only downloads the one's relevant to the CID. SuperCID is 111111111 and represents the "developer" region you can download or run any update on a One S with super CID.
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Is that means that if i have supercid i can run any ruu?
if this is the meaning so how do i supercid my one s?
LSGio said:
Is that means that if i have supercid i can run any ruu?
if this is the meaning so how do i supercid my one s?
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fastboot oem writecid 11111111
usaff22 said:
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
i have 2 questions:
1.how many 1's do i have to write
2.can i get back to my cid and how?
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Yes, you can make nand backups and restore them if you have a custom recovery. You don't need to have s-off for that but you do need to have your bootloader unlocked. Depending on your hboot version, restoring a nand backup will not restore your boot image. (1.09 and below will, 1.13 and up won't.) We do now have the means to downgrade hboot tho.
You get the *tampered* line if your recovery is unsigned. When you use a custom rom, you will most likely also get a red warning text over your boot splash. It's normal.
You have to extract the boot image from the rom zip and flash it in fastboot before you boot the new rom. This may even be before you flash the new rom. You can leave the rom zip unchanged and flash it in recovery.
-Jobo
if ill do a nand it will back up the boot img but wont restore it because of my hboot version?
Oh and one more thing when i rooted my htc with the supersu zip than after 2 days it asked for mksh premissions and than when i rebootedy phone it was stuck in recovery and then i fixed it with a wipe but how can i prevent this from hapenning and why does it hapenned?
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LSGio said:
if ill do a nand it will back up the boot img but wont restore it because of my hboot version?
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Correct. On old hboots, pretty much everything except sbl and hboot is writable in recovery or even while fully booted. On newer hboots, most is read-only. Boot image can be flashed in fastboot but radio and other stuff can not.
LSGio said:
Oh and one more thing when i rooted my htc with the supersu zip than after 2 days it asked for mksh premissions and than when i rebootedy phone it was stuck in recovery and then i fixed it with a wipe but how can i prevent this from hapenning and why does it hapenned?
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The mksh root request is a known thing. You can search the forums for it to read some opinions. As far as I know not yet properly explained why it happens but harmless. It is not related to getting stuck in recovery, altho I have no idea what caused that for you.
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Correct. On old hboots, pretty much everything except sbl and hboot is writable in recovery or even while fully booted. On newer hboots, most is read-only. Boot image can be flashed in fastboot but radio and other stuff can not.
The mksh root request is a known thing. You can search the forums for it to read some opinions. As far as I know not yet properly explained why it happens but harmless. It is not related to getting stuck in recovery, altho I have no idea what caused that for you.
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can you please tell me how can i download an ruu that matches my stock rom. cause when i get to the filefactory server it tells me that i need to buy premium because the file is larger than 500MB.
and the link to the ruu downloads is from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543588
if youll go to the first page and click the (ville S4) link you will see a list of ruu's but i can't download them because the size of them is larger han 500mb and i need premium.

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