I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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When and if the scene gets bigger, im sure it would be possible.."HOPING"
I was also thinking if pressure sensitivity would work through RDP/VNC - that would allow using desktop paiting apps on tablet (although with some limitation - RDP/VNC mostly has less colors and some lag).
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I was also thinking if pressure sensitivity would work through RDP/VNC - that would allow using desktop paiting apps on tablet (although with some limitation - RDP/VNC mostly has less colors and some lag).
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That's what I was thinking of. I know the remote desktop clients are a little laggy on tablets and maybe not ideal, but at the very least it would be fun to paint with the Note on my PC. I don't know how small the market is for using this tablet like a wacom pad, and the note 10.1 is kind of niche on it's own, but for people like me who draw casually and don't want to drop more cash on a wacom it's ideal.
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That's what I was thinking of. I know the remote desktop clients are a little laggy on tablets and maybe not ideal, but at the very least it would be fun to paint with the Note on my PC. I don't know how small the market is for using this tablet like a wacom pad, and the note 10.1 is kind of niche on it's own, but for people like me who draw casually and don't want to drop more cash on a wacom it's ideal.
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This the main reason why i obtained it, Samsung/Wacom! They knew exactly who to go for, unlike HTC.
Sad though, i was hopping that HTC did grew over it, but nope.
alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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As a USB-conncected input peripheral - probably not. "Penabled" digitizers such as the one in the SGN10.1 use a different set of software drivers than the Intuos and Bamboo non-display digitizers. This is because the underlying hardware is different; Penabled styli cannot be used interchangeably with Intuos/Bamboo styli, although many of the nibs (regular, felt, stroke) can fit either type of stylus. Technically it may be possible, but Wacom probably wants to maintain a clear distinction between its' product lines.
With remote desktop software - yes, but there may be mismatches of screen resolution which would complicate fine-line drawing control, and pressure response would be lost. And added lag due to the remote connection.
Best to get a Bamboo or Intuos if you really need a graphics tablet for a desktop/laptop - the software drivers allow scaling the digitizer area to single and multiple displays; more levels of pressure response; and stylus tilt response and touchpad controls are available on the Intuos series. (But not cheap - the Intuos 6x8 runs about $350.)
Search for a cheaper intuous 2, 3 or 4 used. They are good tablets, the new ones are not that different in functionality, just thinner (the 4 is just as thin as the 5) as an added bonus you gain pen rotation and the eraser on the other side of the pen (which I use but not everybody does).
If you really want something smaller and don't care about the rotation of the pen then get a bamboo (as usual if you want slightly cheaper get a used older model).
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Search for a cheaper intuous 2, 3 or 4 used. They are good tablets, the new ones are not that different in functionality, just thinner (the 4 is just as thin as the 5) as an added bonus you gain pen rotation and the eraser on the other side of the pen (which I use but not everybody does).
If you really want something smaller and don't care about the rotation of the pen then get a bamboo (as usual if you want slightly cheaper get a used older model).
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Yes, good advice - my Intuos2 from 2002 is still good. Doesn't have the touchpad controls of the current Intuos5, but works fine. Wacom driver updates still include the Intuos2, from WinXP to Win7, and probably beyond. Styli, nibs, and most accessories are still available for the Intuos2 as well.
alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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Getting a Galaxy Note at the end of the week, this is the first thing that crossed my mind, if it could double as a Cintiq. My best guess is that its possible, specially considering the power inside the tablet, and maybe a usb 3.0 connection -____- Still haven't seen any sofware up to it though. I would gladly pay for any software that enabled this. Otherwise, I guess Sketchbook Pro for Android will do, I have used it with a capacitive stylus (ugh) and it did ok, can't wait to get Wacom superpowers on the go =) I also own an old HP PC tablet with an active digitizer, but its to heavy lo lug around daily, and a wacom bamboo for my PC tower, so I have high expectations on this. I just cannot wait to put my hands on the Note.
BTW for the phone Note, there is this, dunno if it works on the tablet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_JeueI7aLE
Ayle87 said:
Getting a Galaxy Note at the end of the week, this is the first thing that crossed my mind, if it could double as a Cintiq. My best guess is that its possible, specially considering the power inside the tablet, and maybe a usb 3.0 connection -____- Still haven't seen any sofware up to it though. I would gladly pay for any software that enabled this. Otherwise, I guess Sketchbook Pro for Android will do, I have used it with a capacitive stylus (ugh) and it did ok, can't wait to get Wacom superpowers on the go =) I also own an old HP PC tablet with an active digitizer, but its to heavy lo lug around daily, and a wacom bamboo for my PC tower, so I have high expectations on this. I just cannot wait to put my hands on the Note.
BTW for the phone Note, there is this, dunno if it works on the tablet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_JeueI7aLE
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Wow, see this:
http://www.piip.lv/galaxy_note_digitizer_graphics_tablet_for_pc.html
And at another tread, Angelo Troedhan told us about app "Unified Remote" , I think soon we would have full cintiq powers and use our device also with desktop software.
A similar thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869803
Sorry if I didn't find this one before starting the "duplicated" linked one
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Wow, see this:
http://www.piip.lv/galaxy_note_digitizer_graphics_tablet_for_pc.html
And at another tread, Angelo Troedhan told us about app "Unified Remote" , I think soon we would have full cintiq powers and use our device also with desktop software.
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Yeah that's the link on the youtube video. Thought it does what a Bamboo would do, I would like to see if using it as a cintiq is possible. For the cool factor, really
The reasons Galaxy Note 10.1 has potential to become drawing tablet are... 1,024 pressure sensitivity(about 4 times higher than Note) and it's big enough to actually draw on it.
I will buy any app that transform Galaxy Note 10.1 to Wacom Especially if it works with Ubuntu.
Hi Everyone,
I registered on xda-developers just to post on this thread. I'm getting into Android app development, and I will be getting a Galaxy Note 10.1 in a few days. Like many others, one of the first ideas that came to mind after playing around with the Note was finding a way to use it as a writing tablet (WACOM style) for PC. I do a lot of tutoring and having an affordable way to provide a screencast of what I'm drawing to students when working out a problem or teaching would be very useful for me.
I'm planning on writing a simple app to let Note users control their PCs with the S Pen. From there, using some PC based software to transmit a screencast over skype for example should be straightforward. I think the most difficult part will be getting pressure sensitivity information to the PC and into applications, since usual ways of emulating input are just to control the mouse pointer position, and button and keypresses.
I'm not sure how long it'll take, but it's nice to know that there are other people out there who would be interested in this kind of functionality.
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Hi Everyone,
I registered on xda-developers just to post on this thread. I'm getting into Android app development, and I will be getting a Galaxy Note 10.1 in a few days. Like many others, one of the first ideas that came to mind after playing around with the Note was finding a way to use it as a writing tablet (WACOM style) for PC. I do a lot of tutoring and having an affordable way to provide a screencast of what I'm drawing to students when working out a problem or teaching would be very useful for me.
I'm planning on writing a simple app to let Note users control their PCs with the S Pen. From there, using some PC based software to transmit a screencast over skype for example should be straightforward. I think the most difficult part will be getting pressure sensitivity information to the PC and into applications, since usual ways of emulating input are just to control the mouse pointer position, and button and keypresses.
I'm not sure how long it'll take, but it's nice to know that there are other people out there who would be interested in this kind of functionality.
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Wow, it You succeed You would be a lotta people's heroe including me :laugh:
As I wrote in my OP on this issue the way to a full functional Wacom dig tab function of Note 10.1 could be managed like THIS:
Basic prerequisites:
Note 10.1's digitizer FACTUALLY IS a WaCom digitizer ! I have the Bamboo digitizer connected to my PC via the wireless USB dongle.
Step one:
Download "Bamboo" drivers to PC
Step two:
Write a WiFi and Bluetooth connection interface for Note 10.1 to transmit digitizer info from Note 10.1 to the installed PC drivers via WiFi or Bluetooth
Step three:
Create an app for Note 10.1 that resembles the physical surface of the Bamboo dig tab including multi-touch input (e.g. two-three and four finger swipe functionality) and the four hardware buttons.
?.................... could You finish this over the weekend please ..............? :laugh::good::laugh::laugh:
?.................... could You finish this over the weekend please ..............?
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It would be a miracle if I do, I think lol
I agree with your idea of how to go about building this, except that I think using the current Bamboo drivers might not be so easy. The drivers will be expecting a real Bamboo tablet to be connected to the computer over USB (direct or wireless dongle) and will communicate with it directly. To be able to use the original Bamboo drivers, we'd have to reverse engineer the communication between a real Bamboo tablet and the drivers, and then somehow write a new device driver that pretends to be a USB device, and then communicates on one side with the Note (not impossible) but on the other side pretends to be a real Bamboo tablet to communicate with the real Bamboo drivers, the same way a real Bamboo tablet does.
What I'm thinking (still have to look into it) is that Wacom probably published some kind of documentation for how third party apps can use the tablet input including pressure sensitivity. This will tell us how for example Photoshop retrieves pressure sensitivity input.
Maybe this project won't be very simple after all.
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What I'm thinking (still have to look into it) is that Wacom probably published some kind of documentation for how third party apps can use the tablet input including pressure sensitivity. This will tell us how for example Photoshop retrieves pressure sensitivity input.
Maybe this project won't be very simple after all.
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Maybe this link can be useful?
Maybe this link can be useful?
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I looked at that link, it looks like the software part of the development kit isn't available online, only by email if you buy the hardware development kit.
I did a bunch more research and talked to an engineer at Wacom USA, and I think I have a fairly good picture of how this whole thing works.
Essentially, Wacom tablets are USB devices. There are two ways a digitizer tablet can get its information into an application.
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The USB protocol includes the HID device class, which any USB device can claim to be. Within the HID device class is a category for digitizers. When an OS finds a USB device plugged in that claims to be an HID digitizer, the basic drivers in the OD take the info (X, Y, pressure, tilt, etc) that the device provides, and makes it available through it's own APIs. In Windows, the Windows Ink API does this. It's pretty recent, and I don't think too many applications use it.
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The device can have a custom device driver, which communicates with another subsystem running on the host machine (on Windows it's called wintab), which then communicates with applications like Photoshop. Wintab exposes an API to applications to allow them to get events and info from the digitizer. Wintab is maintained by Wacom and is an open industry standard. Most hardcore stylus apps (photoshop, corel draw etc) use wintab to get stylus info.
The Wacom engineer told me that writing a device driver that will communicate with wintab is a very difficult and long process, and usually takes hardware manufacturers years.
On the other hand, exposing the Note's SPen data (X, Y, pressure) as a USB HID device is equally difficult - it requires writing some kind of virtual USB device driver, which fools windows into thinking a real USB HID digitizer is attached. This would also only make the SPen data available through Windows Ink, which would be useless for everyone uses real stylus applications.
So basically, this project is not very possible, unless someone can come up with a very clever way around all these problems.
In the meantime, I'm going to write a very simple S Pen compatible VNC client for Galaxy Note. VNC servers are cross platform (I use Ubuntu & Windows) and VNC clients are very straightforward. With SPen and palm rejection, this could at least allow someone to use the Galaxy Note as a drawing tablet, albeit with no pressure sensitivity.
I was afraid that what you report could be the outcome of your research.
Your points are very much reasonable and it's also equally reasonable that the Wacom technology, available on the GNote, cannot be so easily exploited as to make the GNote a valid substitute of a Wacom commercial and separately sold product.
Nonetheless your "limited features" project could be very useful for us.
I've recently experimented using Splashtop 2 HD: when opening a basic paint program (MS Paint) on my W7 PC and using Splashtop 2 HD on the GNote it's possible to make drawings with the S Pen.
With this app the pen's responsiveness and accuracy is not bad, but also not completely satisfactory (but I can understand that's not the main scope of such an app) and, of course there's no pressure sensitivity...
Anyway, all this means that it's really possible to have some features of a graphics tablet through the GNote and there's a possible way to go.
I think that an app specifically designed for that could have a very good performance (and ways better than what you can achieve with a generic "remote desktop" app like Splashtop 2 HD) and a good response from Gnote users.
But, for sure, if anyone could find a smart way to read (or simulate) the pressure sensitivity, it could be a wonderful advance in the desired direction.
air display
I use air display and sometime idisplay as an input device with the PC and Mac at home. It turns your phone into a second display, but the lag is noticeable.
air display - works on ios, android, pc and mac
idisplay
If your project install the driver direct on the PC, that would be really wonderful!
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Does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to use the Galaxy Note 10.1 as a (Wacom) graphics tablet for a desktop PC, using the USB or WiFi connection between the tablet and the PC?
I think it could be very useful!!!
App: Unified Remote
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App: Unified Remote
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Thanks!
I'll check it
Does the pressure sensitivity work, too?
In PS yes..........
Anyone using a similar app with Mac OS X?
Would be great to use the Tablet like a Wacom with PS
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In PS yes..........
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do you have any tips? i can't seem to get anything but basic input. it's not being very responsive on touches either. tracking is fine though. i've only played with it for 5 min and gotta put my daughter to bed. i probably won't get to try it again til tomorrow.
Do You have light or Pro version ?
Maybe also try "PsTools", but I have no experience with THIS !
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Do You have light or Pro version ?
Maybe also try "PsTools", but I have no experience with THIS !
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i bought the pro version last night. if i don't get it running no probs. the remote is pretty darn awesome and i can use it for other functions. plus i got a monoprice graphic tablet coming today!:laugh: $50 for 10x6.25 tablet.
I am afraid that pressure info is not implemented yet in Unified Remote but could be programmed within this app (custom input remote).
Will dig into this and look if I could setup a script, but it will take time .................................
It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.
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It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.
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I think it should work if there's a good app especially designed for this. If there isn't one now there'll probably be one soon. All the necessary hardware is already there!
Certainly Wacom won't be very happy with it
Kreaninw said:
It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.
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instead of the wacom you can grab one of these for $90 http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10841&cs_id=1084101&p_id=6815&seq=1&format=2
i picked up the 10x6.25 and i'm really loving it so far. i doubt i'll ever buy another wacom and may get the 9x12 later.
Similar thread (started before this one... sorry if I didn't find it before)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845710
Maybe one of the Pro´s here should get interested in THIS.
If Chainfire would want this, man, in one week the 10.1 is a full working digitizer like Bamboo ........................
It´s just a matter to connect the 10.1 input info somehow to the PC-drivers for Bamboo-digitizers.
The problem is the "somehow" ................. :laugh::laugh:
Can samsung galaxy tab 10.1 replace a wacom tablet+ a laptop?
Hi guys,
I too have the same question here. Can samsung galaxy note 10.1 replace a wacom tablet+ a laptop?
Any expert opinion on the pressure sensitivity and professional usage of the galaxy tab rather than its use for fun stuff as shown in the ads.
I was planning to buy a wacom tablet and an ultrabook for a kind of freelance design work. So if the note is good enough I can opt for this single device.
Thanks in anticipation!
In case there is a hardcore devpro here owning a note 10.1 there will be an app for sure, the question is: WHEN ? :laugh:
I got my hands on Galaxy Note 10.1 today. Currently, there's no app that can transform this tablet to graphic tablet to use with PC. I have no knowledge about Android development at all, nor I have knowledge about desktop program development. All I have about coding is HTML5, CSS3, jQuery, which I believe doesn't relate to this kind of staff.
Now, how can I help make it possible? Or how can I develop my own and very first app ever? Thanks.
if your asking what i think you are. Being able to get a program such as cs5 to see the tablet as its input device. The program would have to be aware of the capability of the tablet.There would have to be drives for the whole device being used as a input device not just a media device as adb shows it to a computer now..
The short answer is its Not likely. thou there is a app that will let you use your phone as a mouse. but again that would not in my opinion give you the necessary control you need. I have a wacom intuos graphic tablet. Wacom and cs work so well together . Very much work was done to get this to happen. I Would say buy a intuos 4 or 5 . You will NOT regret it. I love mine.. its a amazing piece of hardware. but with cs5 you better have a beefy computer with the tilt feature for brush strokes and take a computer to its limits and beyond..
quad core amd with 1 gb ram ssd drive on ours ..
good Luck ..
Yes, I want to replace my Wacom with Note 10.1. Of cause, the easiest way is to get a new Wacom. But more device like this and with higher ability will come to the market in the future. If there's an app that can make this possible, I would buy it instead of an expensive Wacom.
Hi.. guys. is it just me or office 2013 metro version really doesnt support drawing?
what device are you using?
MS surface RT... i know it works on pro.. but why doesnt on RT? thats like the most basic function ever..
I dont own a windows tablet at all yet but I was of the understanding that onenote only supported drawing/writing with a wacom or sony digitiser (the surface pro has a wacom digitiser). None of the RT devices have that and only a few of the full windows 8 tablets do. I could of course be wrong, there might well be a way to get it to recognise capacitative input for drawing
Completely pisses me off. If you want to draw you have to go to the desktop version.
It's because a capacitive stylus is seen as just another finger. The program has no way of differentiating between you wanting to draw, and you wanting to scroll.
They decided to get rid of most of the interface, and so they made a design decision for writing and drawing to only work when it detects a pen (aka an active digitizer pen such as a Wacom one).
You also can't change the color or line thickness in the Metro OneNote, even if you have a Wacom pen.
If you want to draw in OneNote, just use the desktop version (and put it in fullscreen mode). It works just as well with touch, and the interface is just as minimal in that mode.
Though for serious drawing, you'll probably want an app that is better designed for that purpose anyway.
well its a bit ironical that company with "best" office software made one note mx... which is basicly worst counterpart of every single note-taking app in iOS or even android....i dont know what it is good for then... its touch made and yet you have to use your keyboard and you CANT draw.... tbh i have second thoughts about whole surface RT:.
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well its a bit ironical that company with "best" office software made one note mx... which is basicly worst counterpart of every single note-taking app in iOS or even android....i dont know what it is good for then... its touch made and yet you have to use your keyboard and you CANT draw.... tbh i have second thoughts about whole surface RT:.
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I would agree entirely. The Metro version is worthless. Just use the desktop version, which again, works great with touch.
I am a graphic artist who has been using a Wacom tablet for the last 20 years. I can't STAND using my computer any other way (at least for real work). The touchpad is okay for general surfing and it's great in conjunction with the tablet but for my real work, there's no other way of doing it. For my full blown work I use a Mac but for all my portable devices, I like Android. All my smartphones have been Android but I've not gotten a tablet yet because I really haven't seen one that works for what I would really want a tablet for, which is being able to do my job on the go effectively. Sure the Galaxy Note tablets are a good step in that direction but from all the stuff I've seen it's not really a "pro" level device.
In an ideal world (speaking as a designer) Apple would create a Macbook tablet with a wacom digitizer but I really doubt that will EVER happen. A tablet running a full blown OS X, not an iPad. They even have a patent for a tablet that docks into an "iMac" style housing and becomes a full system and then slides out to be a fully functional, stand alone tablet system but they've never done anything with it. THAT would be MY holy grail. BUT, until they do, I guess the best option is the Cintiq Companion Hybrid. I LOATHE WINDOWS so going to the regular companion isn't an option, that leaves the Hybrid.
When I saw the announcement of the Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid, I really like the concept but I'm wondering how good it really is. The cost SEEMS outrageous but when you look at it as a fully functional Cintiq to use WITH my Mac and then it pulls off to be a self contained portable studio, then it is a LITTLE more reasonable. I've seen reviews of it as a Cintiq and everything I've seen says it's a great tablet for use with a Mac and the other parts of the reviews say the portable software that comes with it is good and the other high-end portable software seems to be a good analog to what it would be transferred to on the Mac. That leaves the last question, how good is it as a stand-alone tablet?
That's what I'm wondering now, if I intend on investing the kind of money they are asking, I want to know if the rest of the Android Tablet part of it is really good as well. It comes with 4.2.2 but none of the reviewers have detailed anything about the day to day use of it. Most are completely unfamiliar with the Android OS anyway. They are mostly Apple-heads and only use iPhones and iPads when not using their Macs. I'm wondering when we will see ANDROID reviewers review it. I know it's a very odd category but I don't want to get a GREAT expensive Wacom tablet that is abismal as an Android tablet as well. Has anyone around here gotten thier hands on one? If so, what do you think?
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I am a graphic artist who has been using a Wacom tablet for the last 20 years. I can't STAND using my computer any other way (at least for real work). The touchpad is okay for general surfing and it's great in conjunction with the tablet but for my real work, there's no other way of doing it. For my full blown work I use a Mac but for all my portable devices, I like Android. All my smartphones have been Android but I've not gotten a tablet yet because I really haven't seen one that works for what I would really want a tablet for, which is being able to do my job on the go effectively. Sure the Galaxy Note tablets are a good step in that direction but from all the stuff I've seen it's not really a "pro" level device.
In an ideal world (speaking as a designer) Apple would create a Macbook tablet with a wacom digitizer but I really doubt that will EVER happen. A tablet running a full blown OS X, not an iPad. They even have a patent for a tablet that docks into an "iMac" style housing and becomes a full system and then slides out to be a fully functional, stand alone tablet system but they've never done anything with it. THAT would be MY holy grail. BUT, until they do, I guess the best option is the Cintiq Companion Hybrid. I LOATHE WINDOWS so going to the regular companion isn't an option, that leaves the Hybrid.
When I saw the announcement of the Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid, I really like the concept but I'm wondering how good it really is. The cost SEEMS outrageous but when you look at it as a fully functional Cintiq to use WITH my Mac and then it pulls off to be a self contained portable studio, then it is a LITTLE more reasonable. I've seen reviews of it as a Cintiq and everything I've seen says it's a great tablet for use with a Mac and the other parts of the reviews say the portable software that comes with it is good and the other high-end portable software seems to be a good analog to what it would be transferred to on the Mac. That leaves the last question, how good is it as a stand-alone tablet?
That's what I'm wondering now, if I intend on investing the kind of money they are asking, I want to know if the rest of the Android Tablet part of it is really good as well. It comes with 4.2.2 but none of the reviewers have detailed anything about the day to day use of it. Most are completely unfamiliar with the Android OS anyway. They are mostly Apple-heads and only use iPhones and iPads when not using their Macs. I'm wondering when we will see ANDROID reviewers review it. I know it's a very odd category but I don't want to get a GREAT expensive Wacom tablet that is abismal as an Android tablet as well. Has anyone around here gotten thier hands on one? If so, what do you think?
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Hey, I know this is a 3 month old thread, but maybe someone will find it useful.
I've been using the Cintiq Companion Hybrid for almost 2 months now, and almost exclusively.
First of all, the quality of the tablet is extremely high. It's exactly what one would expect from a Wacom product. There are unboxing and hands-on videos on YouTube showcasing how much thought has gone into this model.
This is the first time I've used a Wacom tablet, and when compared to UC-Logic or N-trig, this is much superior. Obviously, I fell in love with this tablet as soon as I opened the box and kept on getting more and more impressed as I was using it.
As for the Android part, it's pretty basic, except with the addition of some Wacom drawing programs. However, Sketchbook Pro is still the best choice when it comes to drawing on Android, and the matte surface of the tablet makes this the ideal combination. Wacom's Infinite Canvas is a great choice for vector drawing, and currently the only choice for me.
Now, the OS has shown a few bugs. Sometimes it will lag and revert back to its original background. Yesterday I connected it to a PC (Windows), and at some point it malfunctioned, started lagging, and then, after rebooting, I had lost some files from the internal storage as well as my external SD. Managed to get most of the files back from the external SD, but not from the internal storage, since I can't root, and therefore can't use any Android-based recovery programs. I don't know if this is specific to me or if it's a bug on all models.
Also, when connecting SD cards or USB drives (using the standard USB port -- no micro-USB or OTG, thankfully), navigating to them is somewhat unorthodox in that I have to go to the mount folder and guess where it's loaded.
The processors are pretty fast, and there's no lagging when playing graphic intensive games. Browsing the internet is much more enjoyable than Android 3.1 and before (I still haven't gotten used of the single mouse click, but Mac users won't have a problem). 1080p movies play fine, and when using HDMI-out, everything is smooth. I don't recommend watching a film in bed, as the Hybrid is too heavy to have on your chest when you're about to sleep (also stands for Kindle or comic book reading). Response is great when using the pen, as well when using the tablet.
I haven't been using the hardware keys much, but I find more use for them when in Cintiq mode.
As a Cintiq, things are butter smooth, except for some occasions when I have to disconnect and reconnect the tablet when I first connect it to the PC to get the pen functioning properly (this only happens once, if at all, and only when I first connect the tablet to the PC as a Cintiq). Files can be transferred to the PC instantly, and work is much easier.
I've also used a MIDI controller to play music on the Companion, and the only bug I've found is it locks when disconnecting, but that may very well be a bug of the software I'm using.
Skype, torrents and emulators are all fine. But I doubt any tablets show problems with those.
Typing on the Hybrid with its bigger touch-keys is great (Hacker's Keyboard is a great alternative), and closer to keyboard typing than other tablets.
The tablet's battery life is slightly less than 12 hours of constant use on high performance. I don't have WiFi enabled all the time, since up until recently I had another tablet for that. I'm kind of stingy when it comes to its battery since I love the fact that I can work on it anywhere and on-the-go. Since it's so portable, I like being able to use it wherever and whenever I'm awake, so I try to avoid spending the battery on things I can do without.
Now for the stinkers:
I absolutely hate the lens of its 8mp camera. It's horrible. Lighting is bad, definition is bad, colours are bad. You can use it to get reference material for drawing sketching, but that's about it. You won't be using it for anything else but reference drawing sketching material.
The microphone is not great either. Fuzzy and unclear. Purely only for voice notes. Skype calls are ok-ish. But that's about it.
Lastly, the speaker is terrible. Its volume is too low, badly placed and not clear enough. It's a terrible speaker.
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Overall, I am in love with this tablet. My PC recently broke down, so I've been borrowing a laptop when I have to use the Cintiq side (not often yet, mainly due to the lack of a "full-time" PC), but for everything else, I've been using the Companion's Android side.
I am quite sure I covered everything. I will update accordingly.
Thanks for the rundown on it. Sounds pretty much like what I keep hearing. The Wacom Cintiq aspect of it is incredible (I've been using Wacom for over 20 years so that's no surprise) but "your mileage may vary" on the Android part depending on what you specifically hope to accomplish. Biggest chance in it is whether or not Wacom will maintain the Android side of it or let it die on the vine and essentially revert to being just a battery powered 13HD within a couple of years. I haven't heard Wacom commit either way.
As for build quality, I'm not surprised. Wacom KNOWS how to build equipment well. I really didn't expect the camera to be much. I don't ever really consider the quality of the camera being that big a deal on tablets. Although, for $1300-$1600, you'd think they'd put a decent lens in there. They keep marketing it as a Cintiq that happens to run Android rather than an Android tablet.
As for the "single click" thing, you can always program the button (top half or bottom half) to have a "right click" functionality to give you that capability. That's the way I have it on the different Wacom tablets I have.
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As for the "single click" thing, you can always program the button (top half or bottom half) to have a "right click" functionality to give you that capability. That's the way I have it on the different Wacom tablets I have.
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Sorry for not making it clear. I was referring to an actual USB mouse connected to the tablet. I sometimes connect a mouse when I prop it up like a notebook. Old habits die hard.
Cintiq dead before its started Will die soon
Ok so I too have got the cintiq companion hybrid which runs on a pitiful 4.2.1 now I know I know at £1500 what did I expect errrmmm K I T K A T would have been nice Wacom, well with the announcement that Android will no longer support 4.2 soon the tablet will become a slate which is why Wacom was so desperate to throw them out there before this was announced.
They even started sending them out for free for 40 days trial if you dont like send back again before the notice of Android version being obsolete.
I have been on XDA Developers since well my first XDA and like many i would imagine get your new unit and immediately come on here for the updated rom etc. Wacom we are on our own any Guru on here wouldnt dare buy this piece of crap save 800 and get the 13hd want a great tablet get the Note 4 10.1
Sorry RANT over but I hope those with the Wacom share my concern a lot of money for a unit that to be fair had we know it would be stuck on 10.1 would have ordered a 15" wacom pen enabled tablet from China instead which are also stuck on 4.2 but for a fraction of the price and bigger.
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Sorry for not making it clear. I was referring to an actual USB mouse connected to the tablet. I sometimes connect a mouse when I prop it up like a notebook. Old habits die hard.
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XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro Drawing tablet With Screen
Wacom Cintiq Companion is a self-contained Windows computer with the full Wacom graphics tablet features already built in, which can also be used as a 'dumb' graphics tablet when connected to a Mac or PC.
Essentially, you can use this to draw, sketch and paint at your desk hooked up to your main computer, and draw, sketch and paint directly on it while sitting on the sofa or outside.
this Cintiq Companion 2 can be used at a desk as a graphics tablet for your regular computer, but because it also runs Windows, you can use full, familiar versions of Painter, Photoshop and so on when away from your workstation.
The nearest thing it has to a rival is the Microsoft Surface tablet, but this has neither Wacom's heritage nor chops when it comes to rich drawing tools. The iPad Pro is an excellent tablet but cannot be called a competitor here due to its mobile operating system.
It's a solid investment for digital illustrators who want flexibility. However, if you don't need to use it away from your desk, you could save money and purchase the XP-pen Artist 15.6 Pro , or benefit from a bigger drawing area with the slightly more expensive Artist 22E Pro .
I currently use a XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro Drawing tablet With Screen ( xp-pen.com/goods/show/id/394.html ) . It is a cintiq downgrade, but only because it does not have the muti-touch like the cintiq does. it support pen tilt function , 8192 pen pressure levels , battery-free and wireless stylus . 88% NTSC Color gamut , 1920x1080 resolution , 15.6 inch IPS Screen , it has no parallax , no lag .
Overall its an amazing tablet and I do suggest it! It works amazing for me, and personally, I improved a lot while using it.
The only problems, however, is that it always has to be plugged into a PC , Though it is lightweight and works great, the graphics are nice, and its only $439 .
So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
My apologies
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To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
My apologies
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My views on this:
I've had the notes 1, 2, 3 and am currently waiting for the note 4
My son has the note 8
I've also has the Surface Pro 1, 2 and currently have the 3 (and LOVE IT)
I also have a Note pro 12.2
So i consider myself a bit of an experienced expert of stylus driven machines
The first and biggest thing you'll notice about the SP3 stylus is that it FEELS a lot nicer in the hand. Its a normal pen size and weight. This is a pretty big thing... and coupled with the OneNote built in functionality on a windows platform... this thing is sex on your lap.
(OneNote is a *massively* underrated app. I thoroughly recommend you get to know it... to me it rivals Excel in capability)
The Note range of stylus are all compatible with each other AND the Surface Pro 1 and 2. but NOT the Surface Pro 3. the SP3 uses very different technology (not wacom) and Bluetooth linked.
I suspect that if you can handle the lack of 3G connectivity, the SP3 will better suit your needs.
(btw just a heads up, the i7 model of SP3 has some thermal cut out issues, you might want to use the i5 model until MS can fix their thermal issues.)
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So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
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Well, since you don't mention needing any real tablet functionality or android specific apps, and you do mention functionality (tables, hw recognition, etc) I would say the SP3 is a clear winner. The horsepower of the SP3 and the fluidity of OneNote with the full desktop version and all of it's capability and the ability to hop into Excel/Word if needed or run as a full laptop in a pinch with the the type cover and built-in stand puts the SP3 head and shoulders above the Note Pro 12.2
If you needed lighter weight note taking along with Android app functionality, and or WWAN capability then obviously the Note Pro would be better.
Admittingly, I also fully agree with everything that has been mentioned here. Not to branch off topic, but I remember in the early years when tablet manufacturers were first attempting to connect with a stylus, there was a lot of heat on what technology would be the better route and what source of code would be the optimal select. Resolve was difficult because everything was desperately needed. People were demanding a tablet that could take notes with unsurpassed accuracy, yet evolve into a laptop with the performance pf a desktop pc while on the go. Now that tablet technology has surpassed multiple revision updates, & mega disasters (that we wont even begin to mention), etc. students are more often found attending class with a tablet, over a pen and paper. Even the lightest high performance laptops rivaled tablets as laptops slowly started their transformation into something new.
Currently retired from some many years of developing multiple platforms and implementing hardware, I have personally achieved quite a wide selection of tablets, laptops, combinations, and hand held portables. Out of the selection my favorite are the Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and the Surface Pro 3 512Gb with i7. Between these two devices I feel I have experienced the best out of both worlds. Yet truthfully, when it comes to "Taking notes" I tend to normally reach for the Note Pro before the Surface. However, don't get me wrong. When the roles are reversed, and I need true laptop performance with Power Point and Excel, I will reach for the Surface Pro.
As for the stylus. It really depends on what I'm going to need to do. I feel that both devices stylus's "Feel" great. But if were are defining "Feel" as in the actual way in conforms in the hand. The Surface Pro stylus is hands down more realistic of a feeling than that of my Note Pro's light "tooth pick" stylus. However you can achieve that sexy feel in your hand with the Bamboo stylus if you want to spend a little. Then the real question is again, what do I need to do.
The Note Pro is an excellent note taking machine. No question, no debate. It takes extremely accurate note taking and hand writing recognition to a whole new level. I have never experienced anything better to this day.
Now the Surface Pro is also an excellent machine. OneNote IS truly sex on your lap, so to speak, LoL, with this machine. The stylus accuracy is by far the same as the Note Pro, in my opinion. However this device gives me better performance when it comes to Excel and Word docs. Especially when you need to just hop right in as mentioned above.
In close, I could detail every aspect of each device. However, I feel that your conclusion would mainly depend on what you are wanting to do with it, so I don't want to just say that I like one more than the other and try to prove my reasoning. What I would like to provide you with is the reality of what I look for on a daily basis. That would be hands down the Note Pro. No matter if I'm traveling and need the absolute portability with excellent battery life; hands down the Note Pro. Needing to create, edit, develope, or give a presentation with power point; hands down the Note Pro. When I'm in a hurry and need to find a quick applicable application for something, hands down the Note Pro. When having to fly in and want to grab the latest Metar information while in the cockpit, hands down the Note Pro. Thousands of applications with the most part of them truly free in the play store for any event, hands down the Note Pro.
Again both devices are truly amazing machines, yet I still reach for the Note ahead of the Surface. Weight, battery life, functionality, compatibility, amazing resolution, etc, etc, etc; hands down the Note Pro. I wouldn't change it for anything.
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I'm in molecular virology and do biochem and a fair amount of math on mine. I do lots of reading, highlighting, and annotating in my textbooks. I use lecture notes for quick stuff. I tend to have my logitech k810 for typing out longer stuff. I use the handwriting recognition for my math only. My handwriting is horrible and it's a godsend. The larger screen is what sold me. I kept running into the end of the page before I was done with whatver equation I was working on with the note 10.1. This slightly larger model made it so my work fits perfectly.
The screen looks far better to me on the note 12.2 as well. I find the device lighter. It has better battery life to me, especially when touchwiz is gone and the tablet has been tweaked some.
Depending on the work I'm doing, I use different note programs. Instead of worrying about them all syncing in different ways, I just use drop sync to sync their individual folders and all my notes from various apps and tools are done in one click.
I considered the surface, but because of the extra price being so much more and it only running an onboard intel graphics chip I did not see it worth the extra cash. Minus molecular modeling and high level processing/graphics stuff I have successfully replaced my laptop 99% of the time.
You will need an aftermarket pen. The little dinky thing it comes with will just not cut it. Highlighting and math with it gave me a good cramp after a short time. I bought an aftermarket pen. The bamboo stylus feel carbon and have been happy ever since. The main recommendations for pens are the Bamboo Stylus Feel Normal/Carbon and the S-Pen 8pi
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
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Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
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So, one thing that no one has mentioned in this is that Onenote is also available for the note pro... so, that point is kidna moot imo...
for your questionn on the note apps, there is a good section in the themes and apps already on this.. several of your options are the LectureNotes as mentioned already, Onenote, Papyrus, Evernote, S-Note, and several other. each of them have their own things that make them "better" than others, so it will be on your to see how they fit with you.. a lot prefer Lecturenotes and Papyrus, some like Onenote, some Like Evernote.. test them for yourself and see how you like them.. Lecturenotes and Papyrus seem to give you more functionalility, but lack some of the exporting.. however, you can easily overcome all this by using dropbox/dropsync and just sync them to whereever.
Ihave the SP2 as well and i just bought the note pro 12.2.. have to say.. i love the note pro wayyyyy more than the sp2.. granted it is not the sp3, so i cant speak to its S-pen abilities.. but, the note pro for me does everything that my sp2 can/will do with the exception of the compatability of a smart card reader that i could use for work.. other than that, i can still easily do all MS docs (excel, pp, word, etc)on the note just as easily as on the sp2..
The screen on teh NP12.2 is jsut wayy better as well. and the size is outstanding and still manages to be lighter than the sp2...
For me, Ican use either the handwriting or a kb.. i personally bought the samsung cover keyboard.. i tried it and the zagg one.. the zagg was a tad lighter, but the samsung one jsut feels so much better to me to type on.. i have larger hands and the keys fit better and just feel better.. it is working great.
the benefit of the Note as well is the android and apps.. you can pretty much do anything on this that you will be able to on the SP with the eception of playing some "PC"games , but the SP is severely lackign a video card, so you cant even really do that well on the SP.. with the note, you can enjoy your time and play the games that are far more abundant for this as well..
I am personally going to sell my SP2 now that Ihave this.. there is just no reason to keep it as Ican hook my reader up to my PC and still do my email at home
Also.. don't quote me on this and i would suggest look it up, but i could have sworn a buddy of mine was talking to me about loading Ubuntu onto the Note?? if I am correct, it runs on a linux kernel right, so i could see this as possibly being true, but i am by no means an expert on this and this is just something that popped in my head when i saw you write that.. so, maybe look into that to get your linux fix
anyway.. hope this might help you some more.. if any questions, feel free to ask
edit... so looks like i remembered right.. check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755962 Ubuntu on the note pro 12.2 enjoy
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OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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yeah Ihear ya... but from my understaending, the real reason a lot like it is the synching portion between the tab and the pc... and you can overcome this with just about every other note taking app with some form of dropbox and just synch as well
I used onenote on my SP2 and liked it.. but i DL'd lecturenotes and think i like it even more..you have way more options with it and customizeable as wel... worth a check out
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is this the best tab for RD?
and whats the best app for remoted desktop? ive been told to try splashtop, teamviewer, micro$ remote desktop, and the included sammy app.
GreeleyXda said:
is this the best tab for RD?
and whats the best app for remoted desktop? ive been told to try splashtop, teamviewer, micro$ remote desktop, and the included sammy app.
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I use Chrome remote desktop and chrome browser on my pc's. It works very well and it 8s free.
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Personally I use Splashtop, but all I do with it is game. Mainly because Photoshop doesn't register pen sensitivity due to incompatible drivers.
ill try both.
between the 12.2 and other tablets, does remote desktop work better on the pro?
also is the Pro the best drawing tablet? (was thinking of the shield tablet)
GreeleyXda said:
ill try both.
between the 12.2 and other tablets, does remote desktop work better on the pro?
also is the Pro the best drawing tablet? (was thinking of the shield tablet)
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For drawing the Note tablets really are the best solution, due to the wacom tech that is the Spen. Personally I prefer the 12.2" over the 10" because it has 50% more screenspace and is closer to an actual sketchbook in size. Which does make it slightly less portable, but that's a sacrifice i'm more than happy to make if it means more screenspace.
Remote desktop doesn't work perfectly anywhere. There's issues regardless of device or hardware.
I use "Jump" (best rederer) if I use the tablet as a "Thin Client" desktop replacement or the Microsoft RDP Beta in mobile situations.
I use Ericom AccessToGo for actual RDP usage. It's free and works really well.
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Personally I use Splashtop, but all I do with it is game. Mainly because Photoshop doesn't register pen sensitivity due to incompatible drivers.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/24/parallels-access-2-5-remote-desktop-now-supports-the-s-pen/
would that help? or what drivers?
also, quote "the company also points out that all Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy Note Edge customers now get a free six-month subscription to Parallels Access in their Galaxy Gifts."
i wonder since i have a note 4, if i can carry the free 6months to the tablet since its the same samsung account.
id love to have photoshop on the go.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/24/parallels-access-2-5-remote-desktop-now-supports-the-s-pen/
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Ah, I should explain. These drivers enable the Spen to be used as mouse input. Photoshop regular use will work as normal with the Spen, since a regular mouse also has no pressure sensitivity.
(Some apps don't recognize the Spen as an input device at all. Games, usually.)
What I require is the pressure sensitivity, so that when I press lightly, the brush is applied as a lower opacity. This requires completely different drivers on both the tablet, RD and PC.
What I need, basically, is the Wacom Intuos Drivers to be made for the Spen. Those are the drivers that turn the Intuos drawing tavlets from an plug&play input into a drawing tablet on the PC end, and allow the PC to recognize the pressure sensitivity.
also, quote "the company also points out that all Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy Note Edge customers now get a free six-month subscription to Parallels Access in their Galaxy Gifts."
i wonder since i have a note 4, if i can carry the free 6months to the tablet since its the same samsung account.
id love to have photoshop on the go.
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Usually not, but it's worth a try.
As fpr Photoshop on the go, there's this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch
(which isn't sufficient for me, as I also need Indesign and Illustrator, but will do the job for many)
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