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Note 10.1 as USB Wacom for PC?

I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks

alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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When and if the scene gets bigger, im sure it would be possible.."HOPING"

I was also thinking if pressure sensitivity would work through RDP/VNC - that would allow using desktop paiting apps on tablet (although with some limitation - RDP/VNC mostly has less colors and some lag).

Magnesus said:
I was also thinking if pressure sensitivity would work through RDP/VNC - that would allow using desktop paiting apps on tablet (although with some limitation - RDP/VNC mostly has less colors and some lag).
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That's what I was thinking of. I know the remote desktop clients are a little laggy on tablets and maybe not ideal, but at the very least it would be fun to paint with the Note on my PC. I don't know how small the market is for using this tablet like a wacom pad, and the note 10.1 is kind of niche on it's own, but for people like me who draw casually and don't want to drop more cash on a wacom it's ideal.

alec.brown said:
That's what I was thinking of. I know the remote desktop clients are a little laggy on tablets and maybe not ideal, but at the very least it would be fun to paint with the Note on my PC. I don't know how small the market is for using this tablet like a wacom pad, and the note 10.1 is kind of niche on it's own, but for people like me who draw casually and don't want to drop more cash on a wacom it's ideal.
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This the main reason why i obtained it, Samsung/Wacom! They knew exactly who to go for, unlike HTC.
Sad though, i was hopping that HTC did grew over it, but nope.

alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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As a USB-conncected input peripheral - probably not. "Penabled" digitizers such as the one in the SGN10.1 use a different set of software drivers than the Intuos and Bamboo non-display digitizers. This is because the underlying hardware is different; Penabled styli cannot be used interchangeably with Intuos/Bamboo styli, although many of the nibs (regular, felt, stroke) can fit either type of stylus. Technically it may be possible, but Wacom probably wants to maintain a clear distinction between its' product lines.
With remote desktop software - yes, but there may be mismatches of screen resolution which would complicate fine-line drawing control, and pressure response would be lost. And added lag due to the remote connection.
Best to get a Bamboo or Intuos if you really need a graphics tablet for a desktop/laptop - the software drivers allow scaling the digitizer area to single and multiple displays; more levels of pressure response; and stylus tilt response and touchpad controls are available on the Intuos series. (But not cheap - the Intuos 6x8 runs about $350.)

Search for a cheaper intuous 2, 3 or 4 used. They are good tablets, the new ones are not that different in functionality, just thinner (the 4 is just as thin as the 5) as an added bonus you gain pen rotation and the eraser on the other side of the pen (which I use but not everybody does).
If you really want something smaller and don't care about the rotation of the pen then get a bamboo (as usual if you want slightly cheaper get a used older model).

DBBGBA said:
Search for a cheaper intuous 2, 3 or 4 used. They are good tablets, the new ones are not that different in functionality, just thinner (the 4 is just as thin as the 5) as an added bonus you gain pen rotation and the eraser on the other side of the pen (which I use but not everybody does).
If you really want something smaller and don't care about the rotation of the pen then get a bamboo (as usual if you want slightly cheaper get a used older model).
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Yes, good advice - my Intuos2 from 2002 is still good. Doesn't have the touchpad controls of the current Intuos5, but works fine. Wacom driver updates still include the Intuos2, from WinXP to Win7, and probably beyond. Styli, nibs, and most accessories are still available for the Intuos2 as well.

alec.brown said:
I could not find that this question has been asked, sorry if it has.
I was wondering if there could be a way for the galaxy note 10.1 to function as a standard wacom tablet for use on a computer through USB or something, like a bamboo or intuos tablet. Possibly even like a cintiq using remote desktop and photoshop?
Just wondering, thanks
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Getting a Galaxy Note at the end of the week, this is the first thing that crossed my mind, if it could double as a Cintiq. My best guess is that its possible, specially considering the power inside the tablet, and maybe a usb 3.0 connection -____- Still haven't seen any sofware up to it though. I would gladly pay for any software that enabled this. Otherwise, I guess Sketchbook Pro for Android will do, I have used it with a capacitive stylus (ugh) and it did ok, can't wait to get Wacom superpowers on the go =) I also own an old HP PC tablet with an active digitizer, but its to heavy lo lug around daily, and a wacom bamboo for my PC tower, so I have high expectations on this. I just cannot wait to put my hands on the Note.
BTW for the phone Note, there is this, dunno if it works on the tablet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_JeueI7aLE

Ayle87 said:
Getting a Galaxy Note at the end of the week, this is the first thing that crossed my mind, if it could double as a Cintiq. My best guess is that its possible, specially considering the power inside the tablet, and maybe a usb 3.0 connection -____- Still haven't seen any sofware up to it though. I would gladly pay for any software that enabled this. Otherwise, I guess Sketchbook Pro for Android will do, I have used it with a capacitive stylus (ugh) and it did ok, can't wait to get Wacom superpowers on the go =) I also own an old HP PC tablet with an active digitizer, but its to heavy lo lug around daily, and a wacom bamboo for my PC tower, so I have high expectations on this. I just cannot wait to put my hands on the Note.
BTW for the phone Note, there is this, dunno if it works on the tablet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_JeueI7aLE
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Wow, see this:
http://www.piip.lv/galaxy_note_digitizer_graphics_tablet_for_pc.html
And at another tread, Angelo Troedhan told us about app "Unified Remote" , I think soon we would have full cintiq powers and use our device also with desktop software.

A similar thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869803
Sorry if I didn't find this one before starting the "duplicated" linked one

Nimel said:
Wow, see this:
http://www.piip.lv/galaxy_note_digitizer_graphics_tablet_for_pc.html
And at another tread, Angelo Troedhan told us about app "Unified Remote" , I think soon we would have full cintiq powers and use our device also with desktop software.
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Yeah that's the link on the youtube video. Thought it does what a Bamboo would do, I would like to see if using it as a cintiq is possible. For the cool factor, really

The reasons Galaxy Note 10.1 has potential to become drawing tablet are... 1,024 pressure sensitivity(about 4 times higher than Note) and it's big enough to actually draw on it.
I will buy any app that transform Galaxy Note 10.1 to Wacom Especially if it works with Ubuntu.

Hi Everyone,
I registered on xda-developers just to post on this thread. I'm getting into Android app development, and I will be getting a Galaxy Note 10.1 in a few days. Like many others, one of the first ideas that came to mind after playing around with the Note was finding a way to use it as a writing tablet (WACOM style) for PC. I do a lot of tutoring and having an affordable way to provide a screencast of what I'm drawing to students when working out a problem or teaching would be very useful for me.
I'm planning on writing a simple app to let Note users control their PCs with the S Pen. From there, using some PC based software to transmit a screencast over skype for example should be straightforward. I think the most difficult part will be getting pressure sensitivity information to the PC and into applications, since usual ways of emulating input are just to control the mouse pointer position, and button and keypresses.
I'm not sure how long it'll take, but it's nice to know that there are other people out there who would be interested in this kind of functionality.

develapper said:
Hi Everyone,
I registered on xda-developers just to post on this thread. I'm getting into Android app development, and I will be getting a Galaxy Note 10.1 in a few days. Like many others, one of the first ideas that came to mind after playing around with the Note was finding a way to use it as a writing tablet (WACOM style) for PC. I do a lot of tutoring and having an affordable way to provide a screencast of what I'm drawing to students when working out a problem or teaching would be very useful for me.
I'm planning on writing a simple app to let Note users control their PCs with the S Pen. From there, using some PC based software to transmit a screencast over skype for example should be straightforward. I think the most difficult part will be getting pressure sensitivity information to the PC and into applications, since usual ways of emulating input are just to control the mouse pointer position, and button and keypresses.
I'm not sure how long it'll take, but it's nice to know that there are other people out there who would be interested in this kind of functionality.
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Wow, it You succeed You would be a lotta people's heroe including me :laugh:
As I wrote in my OP on this issue the way to a full functional Wacom dig tab function of Note 10.1 could be managed like THIS:
Basic prerequisites:
Note 10.1's digitizer FACTUALLY IS a WaCom digitizer ! I have the Bamboo digitizer connected to my PC via the wireless USB dongle.
Step one:
Download "Bamboo" drivers to PC
Step two:
Write a WiFi and Bluetooth connection interface for Note 10.1 to transmit digitizer info from Note 10.1 to the installed PC drivers via WiFi or Bluetooth
Step three:
Create an app for Note 10.1 that resembles the physical surface of the Bamboo dig tab including multi-touch input (e.g. two-three and four finger swipe functionality) and the four hardware buttons.
?.................... could You finish this over the weekend please ..............? :laugh::good::laugh::laugh:

?.................... could You finish this over the weekend please ..............?
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It would be a miracle if I do, I think lol
I agree with your idea of how to go about building this, except that I think using the current Bamboo drivers might not be so easy. The drivers will be expecting a real Bamboo tablet to be connected to the computer over USB (direct or wireless dongle) and will communicate with it directly. To be able to use the original Bamboo drivers, we'd have to reverse engineer the communication between a real Bamboo tablet and the drivers, and then somehow write a new device driver that pretends to be a USB device, and then communicates on one side with the Note (not impossible) but on the other side pretends to be a real Bamboo tablet to communicate with the real Bamboo drivers, the same way a real Bamboo tablet does.
What I'm thinking (still have to look into it) is that Wacom probably published some kind of documentation for how third party apps can use the tablet input including pressure sensitivity. This will tell us how for example Photoshop retrieves pressure sensitivity input.
Maybe this project won't be very simple after all.

develapper said:
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What I'm thinking (still have to look into it) is that Wacom probably published some kind of documentation for how third party apps can use the tablet input including pressure sensitivity. This will tell us how for example Photoshop retrieves pressure sensitivity input.
Maybe this project won't be very simple after all.
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Maybe this link can be useful?

Maybe this link can be useful?
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I looked at that link, it looks like the software part of the development kit isn't available online, only by email if you buy the hardware development kit.
I did a bunch more research and talked to an engineer at Wacom USA, and I think I have a fairly good picture of how this whole thing works.
Essentially, Wacom tablets are USB devices. There are two ways a digitizer tablet can get its information into an application.
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The USB protocol includes the HID device class, which any USB device can claim to be. Within the HID device class is a category for digitizers. When an OS finds a USB device plugged in that claims to be an HID digitizer, the basic drivers in the OD take the info (X, Y, pressure, tilt, etc) that the device provides, and makes it available through it's own APIs. In Windows, the Windows Ink API does this. It's pretty recent, and I don't think too many applications use it.
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The device can have a custom device driver, which communicates with another subsystem running on the host machine (on Windows it's called wintab), which then communicates with applications like Photoshop. Wintab exposes an API to applications to allow them to get events and info from the digitizer. Wintab is maintained by Wacom and is an open industry standard. Most hardcore stylus apps (photoshop, corel draw etc) use wintab to get stylus info.
The Wacom engineer told me that writing a device driver that will communicate with wintab is a very difficult and long process, and usually takes hardware manufacturers years.
On the other hand, exposing the Note's SPen data (X, Y, pressure) as a USB HID device is equally difficult - it requires writing some kind of virtual USB device driver, which fools windows into thinking a real USB HID digitizer is attached. This would also only make the SPen data available through Windows Ink, which would be useless for everyone uses real stylus applications.
So basically, this project is not very possible, unless someone can come up with a very clever way around all these problems.
In the meantime, I'm going to write a very simple S Pen compatible VNC client for Galaxy Note. VNC servers are cross platform (I use Ubuntu & Windows) and VNC clients are very straightforward. With SPen and palm rejection, this could at least allow someone to use the Galaxy Note as a drawing tablet, albeit with no pressure sensitivity.

I was afraid that what you report could be the outcome of your research.
Your points are very much reasonable and it's also equally reasonable that the Wacom technology, available on the GNote, cannot be so easily exploited as to make the GNote a valid substitute of a Wacom commercial and separately sold product.
Nonetheless your "limited features" project could be very useful for us.
I've recently experimented using Splashtop 2 HD: when opening a basic paint program (MS Paint) on my W7 PC and using Splashtop 2 HD on the GNote it's possible to make drawings with the S Pen.
With this app the pen's responsiveness and accuracy is not bad, but also not completely satisfactory (but I can understand that's not the main scope of such an app) and, of course there's no pressure sensitivity...
Anyway, all this means that it's really possible to have some features of a graphics tablet through the GNote and there's a possible way to go.
I think that an app specifically designed for that could have a very good performance (and ways better than what you can achieve with a generic "remote desktop" app like Splashtop 2 HD) and a good response from Gnote users.
But, for sure, if anyone could find a smart way to read (or simulate) the pressure sensitivity, it could be a wonderful advance in the desired direction.

air display
I use air display and sometime idisplay as an input device with the PC and Mac at home. It turns your phone into a second display, but the lag is noticeable.
air display - works on ios, android, pc and mac
idisplay
If your project install the driver direct on the PC, that would be really wonderful!

[Q] Galaxy Note 10.1 as a Wacom graphics tablet for the desktop PC

Does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to use the Galaxy Note 10.1 as a (Wacom) graphics tablet for a desktop PC, using the USB or WiFi connection between the tablet and the PC?
I think it could be very useful!!!

App: Unified Remote

troed said:
App: Unified Remote
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Thanks!
I'll check it

Does the pressure sensitivity work, too?

In PS yes..........

Anyone using a similar app with Mac OS X?
Would be great to use the Tablet like a Wacom with PS

troed said:
In PS yes..........
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do you have any tips? i can't seem to get anything but basic input. it's not being very responsive on touches either. tracking is fine though. i've only played with it for 5 min and gotta put my daughter to bed. i probably won't get to try it again til tomorrow.

Do You have light or Pro version ?
Maybe also try "PsTools", but I have no experience with THIS !

troed said:
Do You have light or Pro version ?
Maybe also try "PsTools", but I have no experience with THIS !
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i bought the pro version last night. if i don't get it running no probs. the remote is pretty darn awesome and i can use it for other functions. plus i got a monoprice graphic tablet coming today!:laugh: $50 for 10x6.25 tablet.

I am afraid that pressure info is not implemented yet in Unified Remote but could be programmed within this app (custom input remote).
Will dig into this and look if I could setup a script, but it will take time .................................

It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.

Kreaninw said:
It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.
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I think it should work if there's a good app especially designed for this. If there isn't one now there'll probably be one soon. All the necessary hardware is already there!
Certainly Wacom won't be very happy with it

Kreaninw said:
It would be great if it works. I plan to buy both Galaxy Note 10.1 as an upgrade and Wacom tablet. But if the Note works just fine, I won't buy Wacom. The Note has 1024 pressure level, is it the same as an actually drawing tablet which has 1024 pressure level?
Especially, if I can use Galaxy Note as drawing tablet in Ubuntu, it would be great.
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instead of the wacom you can grab one of these for $90 http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10841&cs_id=1084101&p_id=6815&seq=1&format=2
i picked up the 10x6.25 and i'm really loving it so far. i doubt i'll ever buy another wacom and may get the 9x12 later.

Similar thread (started before this one... sorry if I didn't find it before)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845710

Maybe one of the Pro´s here should get interested in THIS.
If Chainfire would want this, man, in one week the 10.1 is a full working digitizer like Bamboo ........................
It´s just a matter to connect the 10.1 input info somehow to the PC-drivers for Bamboo-digitizers.
The problem is the "somehow" ................. :laugh::laugh:

Can samsung galaxy tab 10.1 replace a wacom tablet+ a laptop?
Hi guys,
I too have the same question here. Can samsung galaxy note 10.1 replace a wacom tablet+ a laptop?
Any expert opinion on the pressure sensitivity and professional usage of the galaxy tab rather than its use for fun stuff as shown in the ads.
I was planning to buy a wacom tablet and an ultrabook for a kind of freelance design work. So if the note is good enough I can opt for this single device.
Thanks in anticipation!

In case there is a hardcore devpro here owning a note 10.1 there will be an app for sure, the question is: WHEN ? :laugh:

I got my hands on Galaxy Note 10.1 today. Currently, there's no app that can transform this tablet to graphic tablet to use with PC. I have no knowledge about Android development at all, nor I have knowledge about desktop program development. All I have about coding is HTML5, CSS3, jQuery, which I believe doesn't relate to this kind of staff.
Now, how can I help make it possible? Or how can I develop my own and very first app ever? Thanks.

if your asking what i think you are. Being able to get a program such as cs5 to see the tablet as its input device. The program would have to be aware of the capability of the tablet.There would have to be drives for the whole device being used as a input device not just a media device as adb shows it to a computer now..
The short answer is its Not likely. thou there is a app that will let you use your phone as a mouse. but again that would not in my opinion give you the necessary control you need. I have a wacom intuos graphic tablet. Wacom and cs work so well together . Very much work was done to get this to happen. I Would say buy a intuos 4 or 5 . You will NOT regret it. I love mine.. its a amazing piece of hardware. but with cs5 you better have a beefy computer with the tilt feature for brush strokes and take a computer to its limits and beyond..
quad core amd with 1 gb ram ssd drive on ours ..
good Luck ..

Yes, I want to replace my Wacom with Note 10.1. Of cause, the easiest way is to get a new Wacom. But more device like this and with higher ability will come to the market in the future. If there's an app that can make this possible, I would buy it instead of an expensive Wacom.

[Q] For the Artists: Does this replace your main tool?

Hi.
I would like to ask the owners of this tablet if they have replaced their cintiqs and/or drawing tablets with the note 10.1. If yes, why did you replace your tools with the 10.1. If not, why not?
I'm still on the fence about buying this for the sake of just drawing when I still have my slow yet capable m200 tablet pc and I already own an ipad1 and an xperia play.

fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I would like to ask the owners of this tablet if they have replaced their cintiqs and/or drawing tablets with the note 10.1. If yes, why did you replace your tools with the 10.1. If not, why not?
I'm still on the fence about buying this for the sake of just drawing when I still have my slow yet capable m200 tablet pc and I already own an ipad1 and an xperia play.
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Oh this thing is SO much faster.... got this cus I haven't been able to afford a cintiq... so this was my compromise. 1) SUPER bright, so drawing outside, in daylight is possible. Working with color only requires a little shade---like plein aire painting. 2)portability. 3) this far superior to either ipad or Sony. If ur an artist, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want one of these.... unless you're a sculptor....
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This too was my compromise in place of a cintiq; I've been super busy with tangible media for classes that i havent been able to pour as much time into it as i'd like, but while i'm bored to death in art history, you bet i've got a million unrelated drawings tucked into my notes.

Replace? no. Add to the tools set? yes.
Asking the Note 10.1 to replace my Cintiq is way too much to ask. But I wish it would replace my older Intel Core Duo tablet pc. It doesn't do even that. I decided to test my cintiq using ubuntu desktop OS and it was not as good as Windows. I remember trying linux on my tablet PC a couple of years ago with similar results. Somethings up with the wacom drivers in Linux. This could explain why the awesome Note 10.1 hardware doesn't match even an older tablet pc wacom line quality. Wacom is only as good as its driver let it be.
I bought the Note 10.1 to replace my lenovo android TPT. TPT doesn't work well with TVpaint beta or Sketchbook pro. The Note 10.1 is very good with these apps. If all you want to do is doodle (the backbone of great art!) try to get a TPT on ebay paying no more that $250. A TPT for that price beats the Note 10.1 easily. The TPT works perfectly for sketching in Markers, Quill or Papyrus beta.
I draw on the TPT outside and the Note 10.1 inside. I put on bluetooth headphones and listen to music or audio book from the Note 10.1 while drawing laying on the couch!
My advice is since every artist needs to draw and draw constantly get the Note 10.1 and re-gift your other tablets as Christmas presents.

[Q] Surface Pro 2 Vs Note Pro 12.2

I have been a fan of the note series for some time now, ever since I got the note 2 phone. Then the note 10;1, and the note 8.0. Finally getting the cash lined up for a note 10.1 2014 and the 12.2 gets announced. So, now I am waiting for a couple days for the note pro to be available in the store to purchase.
My questions is about the choice between the Surface Pro 2 and the Note 12.2
I know that a great deal of things relies on individual needs and preferences, but I want to see where everyone sits.
If you have the chance, would you buy a Note 12.2 or a Surface Pro 2. Assuming same cost.
For me, I wouldn't mind going with a surface pro 2, but I would be tempted to stretch my funds and go with a 256gb model just to get the 8gb ram, then would nee a keyboard for it, pushing my budget pretty high. The note 12.2 is still a high cost device, but cheaper than the Surface Pro 2.
My viewpoint is looking like this:
Reasons for Surface Pro 2
Better CPU
Actual computer with full fledged programs
I can install and play my steam games (really mostly concerned with RTS games since I have my high end gaming laptop with me for higher end games.
Reasons for Note Pro 12.2
Higher Res and better display
Easier use of stylus for notes, drawing, and random functions,
Android and better "mobile" OS.
My big uses for either device would be for Stylus use, consuming content like netflix, and general connectivity for everything.
Thoughts?

Surface Pro 2
I too strongly considered the Surface Pro, and the SP2, for my mobile computing needs. And as you said, it really is all about how you're going to use it. My issue is that it's really almost too much computer for a 10" tablet form factor, and usability suffers for this. In other words, I found it too bulky, heavy, and the screen was simply too small to be able to actually use that power to be productive.
When I'd sit down to type either at a desk or on the couch, it was rather difficult to do so for any length of time, while remaining comfortable. I'd just end up using it as a tablet only. In which case, it was just a little too heavy and bulky for extended use. And I wasn't even remotely using the power of the i-core CPU like this. Which seemed like a waste of such an expensive device.
So I thought I'd try games. I quickly found that it was either wasn't powerful enough for the games I wanted to play and/or the screen was too small.
Basically, I just couldn't find a good use case scenario where it made sense to spend that kind of money on the SP1 or SP2. For me, a larger Ultrabook or a more traditional tablet made more sense. Combining the two just didn't work.
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
I of course haven't used the Note Pro tablet, but from what I've seen it looks like it might actually work for my needs. I know it's expensive "for an android tablet." But for a 12.2" portable computing device, it's almost a bargain. Well, maybe not a "bargain," and there isn't exactly any real competition for it; at least until others jump on board.
First, it's still relatively light weight for it's size. Find me another 12" device running around 1.6 lb, let alone at this price point. Add that to expected tablet-like battery life, portability, nice screen, new launcher, top-end tablet specs, and I think it looks very promising. Well, at least on paper. I'll have to judge that for myself when I get it. If the software and hardware fail, I probably will have to revisit the ultrabook idea. I just didn't want to spend that kind of money right now.
And the most important part is what I'm going to use it for. No, I'm not going to write a book on it. Not expecting to play BF4 or SC2. Don't need it to fit in a pocket. I've got a 5.7" phone, high-end multi-monitor workstation, and 15" notebook for those tasks. I just want something relatively portable to use when traveling, in a vehicle, in a plane, use at work, or even on the couch. If I'm leaving the house with it, just like a 10" tablet, it's going in a bag on it's own, or with my notebook and it's larger bag.
Then it needs to play videos, music, surf the web, and even handle the occasional high-end android game. I'll probably give some light on-the-go productivity a try on it. But like I said, a notebook with a real keyboard is always going to make far more sense.
Mine gets here Friday. Still hoping it works out! :good:

First of all it depends on what do you do and what you need your tablet for . As i know its a personal reference to choose which fit your needs so am just going to share mine so it may help you figure out which suits you or which is a better deal.
I am a Junior architect and for powerful tasks i prefer using a desktop or a powerful laptop as thats where you can do real job on a real wide space but when it comes to a tablet category you choose something that can just give you the ability to edit those projects you did on your desktop or laptop and since tablets to us is a real multi-consumption device for work or multimedia and games etc and it would fit a lot of job holders like me as an architect or a student , artist, teacher etc so i would love to go with the Note PRO over the SP2 simply bc : bigger and better display , wide stylus integration for many apps , you can edit and restyle the android as you wish with so many apps and a full nice keyboard. also the way you feel about the device itself matters a lot and i believe going with the samsung would be a more better experience as being able to turn your tablet into a style that makes you feel good about using it . i didn't really like to go with some tech specs as it easily would be found online etc but here there is a really good article that may help you out from the very technical perspective on gizmag.com

Considering for me it was a choice between the note 12.2 and the SP2, and the note doesnt come out until tomorrow, my wife has already gone to best buy to get me a Surface Pro 2, at least to try out.
Considering that I can use bluestacks to play all the android games and apps I could on the note 12.2 (with some limitations), there is no applicational advantage to the note 12.2
The advantage to the 12.2 is the lower cost, better screen, and better integration of the s pen.
I feel like a traitor, though, going with the Surface. I love android and the note series is the king in my book, and the 12.2 is like the damn emperor of the note series, but I would be stupid and rather irrational not to at least try out the surface pro 2 if it can do everything to note can and more with only an extra 100 dollar price tag.
We shall see.

It is true that it depends on what you plan to use the particular device.
From various reviews, SP2 has a battery life of 6 hours while the GNP 12.2 has a battery life of 10 hours. I think I can do more with the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and more.
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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thering1975 said:
I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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To be honest i couldn't decided between the two, at the moment i have got the surface pro 2 as my personal computer and i also got the galaxy note 10.1 2014 LTE edition, but i am now waiting for the note pro 12.2 LTE because i liked the bigger screen, i know it will cost nearly a thousand but to me its what i want as i want a mobile LTE tablet for when i travel around the country :good:

I just returned my SP2 last night and got the pro 12.2 at best buy. No regrets! I'm scratching my head for the last 15 days. A lot of problems on surface pro 2
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thering1975 said:
I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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LOL As soon as cwm is active i will start on this still waiting for sammobile to up the first release softwares

here is a video comparison between sp2 and the note pro 12.2 by Lisa mobiletechreviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP80fLkJrY

This isn't a fair match up at all...
Android all the way, yeah.
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I currently have both the SP2 and 12.2. You need a keyboard and mouse to really do anything productive on either device.
For any consumption, Youtube, movies, web, its the 12.2 FTW!
The only thing I haven't found that I can do on the 12.2 is Publisher and Powerpoint creation/presentation. I know there are android options there, but they are not up to full functionality when compared to MS office. The Hancom office that comes with the 12.2 is really good when it comes to excel and word though. Very impressed.
I ordered a bluetooth keyboard for the 12.2. I will be able to slip both the tablet and keyboard in the same bag and they won't be any thicker than the SP2.
The one advantage the SP2 has over the 12.2 is multi-monitor support. I am running three monitors and the SP2 at my office. Talk about productivity. There is no lag. Android can't do that yet. I am an android fanboy, but MS still has this productivity nailed.
My 2 cents. As you said, use case dictates your answer. I can't say I would be completely happy with only one of these devices. There is not yet "one device to rule them all."
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Questions From a Potential Buyer

I'm about to make the plunge and buy a Galaxy Pro 12.2 in the next few days (BTW there's a deal on Samsung's website that gives you the Samsung keyboard case that retails for $130 for free with the Tablet). Anyways, I was wondering how really good the Remote PC feature is on the Note 12.2. Is it lagfree, how is browsing on it if possible. And can you download files onto the PC with the app and then transfer it to your tablet? It sounds like a great app in theory I wanna know how good it is in real life usage.
Also how is flash on a tablet like this, speedy? I know you gotta side load the apk and use Dolphin browser, was just wondering if that can replace a desktop browser with flash (probably not though but worth asking).
And finally, how is it typing on a Logitech Pro keyboard case while on your lap, like you would use a typical laptop, comfortable? I'm gonna attempt to use this as a laptop replacement and if Remote PC can act as a remedy for some small lil things and if the keyboard can make the tablet feel like a real laptop, I'd feel real good about this purchase.

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I'm about to make the plunge and buy a Galaxy Pro 12.2 in the next few days (BTW there's a deal on Samsung's website that gives you the Samsung keyboard case that retails for $130 for free with the Tablet). Anyways, I was wondering how really good the Remote PC feature is on the Note 12.2. Is it lagfree, how is browsing on it if possible. And can you download files onto the PC with the app and then transfer it to your tablet? It sounds like a great app in theory I wanna know how good it is in real life usage.
Also how is flash on a tablet like this, speedy? I know you gotta side load the apk and use Dolphin browser, was just wondering if that can replace a desktop browser with flash (probably not though but worth asking).
And finally, how is it typing on a Logitech Pro keyboard case while on your lap, like you would use a typical laptop, comfortable? I'm gonna attempt to use this as a laptop replacement and if Remote PC can act as a remedy for some small lil things and if the keyboard can make the tablet feel like a real laptop, I'd feel real good about this purchase.
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Galaxy pro 12.2 is good.. When look at spec, yes its lagfree, you can transfer info pc via wifidroid or airdroid.
Idk about the flash on 12.2 but on my t311 it worst (using puffin browser).
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My recommendation is buy from an establishment that has a reasonable return policy and try it out for a week or two.
Whether or not any tablet works well as a laptop replacement is a matter of the subjectivity of the user so there is always active debate over it. Many feel that tablets are good supplements to laptops while for others they do serve as complete replacements. Only the individual can decide upon the usefulness of the device for themselves.
If you're going to rely on remote desktop to bridge the gap and have good bandwidth on both ends you'll probably be ok. Just know that there's more to it than the tablet itself when it comes to perception of speed in this regard.
As far as downloading of files to the tablet from within the remote desktop applications I'm not sure; remote desktop isn't really my thing but when I do it I use TeamViewer and rather than download files from within that I simply place them in my Dropbox instead.
For Flash I'd say come in with low expectations. Flash hasn't been supported on Android for a while now so don't expect it to work well at all, that way your expectations are either met or exceeded LOL. I've installed Flash from Adobe's archive and run it within Firefox Beta. It works . . just not well all the time. Again this is subjective, depending upon the sites you go to so don't necessarily believe anyone when they tell you things don't work or work great. You'll have to judge for yourself on your own favorite sites.
I'm not sure about the case, it's a good question to ask since tablets don't rely on hinges to keep the screens in position relative to external keyboards.