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I thought this phone had tegra inside. Why can't I download any tegra games (pinball) or use the Tegra Zone?
It's a Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, not the Nvidia Tegra 2
Why in the world did I think this was a Tegra? Dang. Buyer's remorse.
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if the sensation was tooted, we could play some (most of ?) Tegra games on our devices, unsing Tegra fix, Chainfire 3D drivers, etc
So far, and as I had no choice, I just found a "special" version of Pinball HD for Tegra2, that is compatible with non-Tegra devices.
So yes, I installes a warez, blame me, fire me, but I didn't have choice, I would have bought this game if my Sensation had been rooted and then I could get this game legally.
Tegrazone
Hmm i can install the tegra zone... and the game "Dungeon Defenders" works good...
i dont know why the tegrazone are @ the market 4 me )
games like samurai II vengance are only locked but playable with patches from XDA (i think)
you can install Tegra Zone, sure, but it won't let you install the games.
And to apply the patch you're talking about, you need root
i900frenchaddict said:
if the sensation was tooted, we could play some (most of ?) Tegra games on our devices, unsing Tegra fix, Chainfire 3D drivers, etc
So far, and as I had no choice, I just found a "special" version of Pinball HD for Tegra2, that is compatible with non-Tegra devices.
So yes, I installes a warez, blame me, fire me, but I didn't have choice, I would have bought this game if my Sensation had been rooted and then I could get this game legally.
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If the Sensation was tooted? LOL
MrR0ng said:
I thought this phone had tegra inside. Why can't I download any tegra games (pinball) or use the Tegra Zone?
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Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores, but yes, it has the best exclusive games.
I wouldn't be upset with having a Sensation. It's far better than the Optimus 2x and Atrix. More reliable too.
My Sensation is on its way. I'm surprised to hear that the Tegra games won't work w/ non Tegra phones. I don't remember reading that when I bought them. Had most of them on my G2X, but I didn't play them all that much though. I always seem to go back to Angry Birds.
Maybe I'll just sell those Apps.
jk.
Can't wait to get my new toy!!
ickster said:
My Sensation is on its way. I'm surprised to hear that the Tegra games won't work w/ non Tegra phones. I don't remember reading that when I bought them. Had most of them on my G2X, but I didn't play them all that much though. I always seem to go back to Angry Birds.
Maybe I'll just sell those Apps.
jk.
Can't wait to get my new toy!!
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Good to see you made the leap ickster - I couldn't get rid of that G2x fast enough myself - after four bad ones I was OVER IT.
Hey guy...Yeah, but I'm holding onto the G2X for awhile to see how it plays out. I still hold out hope for it. I picked up (held) a Sensy at the tmobile store today, felt pretty nice.....I think I'm gonna like it! Can't wait.....already purchased the hdmi adapter and spare batteries and a charger. I'm ready to go.
i knew going in that it would not work.. luckily i have a xoom to cure that need
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Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores
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Please explain why ? I would like to know
yes ... why do you think that ??
There was a post somewhere on the myouch forums about a hacked version that would let you install the games... Never tried it but people said it worked. If someone finds it it would be gr8
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jivemaster said:
Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores, but yes, it has the best exclusive games.
I wouldn't be upset with having a Sensation. It's far better than the Optimus 2x and Atrix. More reliable too.
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LOL... please elaborate, tell me you've at least done a little bit of research before forming an opinion like this?
maybe the sensation will be able to use The newly announced "Playstation Suite" that allows us to play touchscreen optimized playstation roms for like $20 or game or something crazy like that I'm sure
Some games like Dungeon Defenders will work because there is actually two versions of the game. The market checks which hardware you have and downloads the right one. I ran it on my MT4G and Tegra 2 tablet and it downloaded a HQ version on my Tegra 2 Tab but SQ on anything other. I know some games are strictly for T2 and will install on other phones (side loading of course) but will not run
Has anyone noticed that there a new games popping up in the Tegra Zone that state they are built specifically for Tegra 3 devices?
Are we going to get left behind on the newest games because we have the Tegra 2?
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Considering the market for !iPad and that Tegera 3 isn't going to power that big a precentage of remaining Android devices in general, at worst get the "Normal" version instead of T3HD or w/e bull they are calling it now.
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~Rich~ said:
Has anyone noticed that there a new games popping up in the Tegra Zone that state they are built specifically for Tegra 3 devices?
Are we going to get left behind on the newest games because we have the Tegra 2?
Anyone have thoughts on this?
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It probably says so the TF Prime can utilize it. Im guessing most games should be playable on both, but when it detects quad core, it will increase all the settings. But, im not sure. I know a few games are going to do this, I think Shadowgun.
yea seems that way. but would def be stupid for devs to not make games backward compatible for at least tegra 2 devices.
It will. Look at shadowgun and riptide gp
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yea seems that way. but would def be stupid for devs to not make games backward compatible for at least tegra 2 devices.
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It would be stupid for devs not to make games backward compatible with `high definition` systems, as so many people typically seem to name their app.
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games will probably be exclusive for tegra 3 for a month or so then they will release another version unless the game cannot run on slower hardware.
Games should have settings like PC games do. 1 version with graphical sliders. Why isn't this happening in all games?
There simply aren't enough Tegra 3 (or Tegra 2) devices to develop specifically for. Backwards compatibility would be wise. No game should be Tegra 3 only yet aside from a few tech demos.
Plus it would be a way to sell Tegra 3 devices too. Give me a new game with Tegra 3 support and let me enable all the goodies Tegra 3 supports and see how the game runs. This is why I used to purchase video cards all the time growing up. Run a new game at full glory because it looked pretty but ran at 19fps... whoops, gotta go get a new $500 video card to play a $49 game better.
If they separate the versions then non-Tegra users and Tegra 2 users never know what they are missing.
I also want an upgradable GPU IN MY PHONE!!!!
I agree. They should be all backward compatible. I also like the idea of being able to scale back the graphics to run on older devices and to tempt us to upgrade.
I want an upgradable gpu for my transformer! lol Don't think any of that is ever going to happen.
I saw that in the demo of Glow Ball that is in the Tegra Zone it says it was meant for Tegra 3 and only Tegra 3 processors were capable of handling the intense graphics. It even goes as far to show you want it looks like without the Tegra 3 (on non Tegra processor I believe) graphics which pretty much makes the game not worth it.
Blowfish Studios are making a Tegra 2 then Tegra 3 version of Siegecraft THD. The Tegra 3 version will be a pushed update to the previous version, so I'm told.
Somehow I remember reading somewhere that file picker = bad according to some important Android guy at Google. Which is probably while you get nothing out of their stuff but you get OI File Manager out of CyangonMod. I wouldn't be surprised if someone felt the same way about game settings, especially considering that people probably change phones about as fast as AAA+ games have short shelf lives (ala COD sh!t).
Unless you want to make several sales per device, THD and the rest is all bull.
Buying FooGame and installing it on e.g. an Optimus One should give you a modest ARMv6 friendly APK, lower end build with graphics tuned for common devices of it's era. Installing it on a TFP should give you a Tegera 3 optimised version of the APK. Got a Galaxy Nexus? Different APK than the Transformers, plus another "Generic" APK that is OK on any phone powerful enough to run it. If memory serves we either have this ability in the market or are getting it soon(tm).
That takes care of your old handset, your super tablet, and your new handset. Even better is the licensing option, uninstall from the Optimus One and install on the Galaxy Nexus or whatever you want out of the markets settings. Just like buying a new PC you can transfer the game over, but just like a console: it also would mean no matter what they play off, your less techy relatives that don't know crud about tech don't even have to figure out game settings. Ain't that awesome?
But oh wait, if we have to do that much work anyway for maximum market penetration, why not release FooGame, FooGame HD, FooGame T2HD, and FooGame T3HD? That way we have the option for charging customers by the processor type and bloat our stats to look good to share holders? --> follow the money.
If I'm wrong about the last three paragraphs someone correct me, other wise I think it's all bull. Some companies are really nice about it if you buy one version but in the end, there's no reason for it, except to try and make more $$$ if wanted.
If I'm probably right and it is mostly bull, how about hitting the thanks button to let me know I'm not an idiot?
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Rockstar Games just updated their facebook post with the release info of GTA III but unfortunately Xperia Play is not on the supported device list.
Check website post http://www.rockstargames.com/newswi...year-anniversary-edition-coming-to-mobil.html
The ONLY phone it will be fun to play on, imo. Wonder if they are having trouble with the power of our phone? If so, I wonder how much an OC'd Play would help. It seems that list is filled with very powerful single core devices, and dual core only.
All supported devices are Tegra 2 or 3, apparently.
This dual-core only **** is the most stupid crap i ever heared. This does not have better grafics that shadowgun wich runs completly lagfree on the xperia play. Also it runs on iphone 4 and the Xplay has better hardware that the iphone 4, and the ultra low power gpu in tegra 2 (yes it is called ultra low power^^) is not really better than our adreno205. But for now i dont care anyway becouse my hand is broken so i cant play (look at signature)
One more thing. Here are the orgininal recomended specs of gta3:
CPU: 800 MHz
RAM: 128 MB
GPU with 32 MB RAM
The Xperia Play passes that easily. But maybe this is not compareable to the Android Version.
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This dual-core only **** is the most stupid crap i ever heared. This does not have better grafics that shadowgun wich runs completly lagfree on the xperia play. Also it runs on iphone 4 and the Xplay has better hardware that the iphone 4, and the ultra low power gpu in tegra 2 (yes it is called ultra low power^^) is not really better than our adreno205. But for now i dont care anyway becouse my hand is broken so i cant play (look at signature)
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For starters the iphone 4 is also.a dual core device, the gpu in the tegra II is called ultra low power because it uses less power to run (batteries) than other GPU's not because it's less powerfull.
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AndroHero said:
For starters the iphone 4 is also.a dual core device, the gpu in the tegra II is called ultra low power because it uses less power to run (batteries) than other GPU's not because it's less powerfull.
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The Iphone 4 is definetly not dualcore. It has a Singelcore Samsung CPU with 1 Ghz and a PowerVR SGX535. And about tegra 2 yes i know that is the real mening of the name but it actually is less powerfull than other gpu's Or not more powerfull than gpu's of singelcore devices if you want it that way.
have they said anything about button mapping for bluetooth pads maybe we could use chainfire 3d if tegra. Just like could use play controls on riptide before play version.
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have they said anything about button mapping for bluetooth pads maybe we could use chainfire 3d if tegra. Just like could use play controls on riptide before play version.
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no info about pads yet. yes we could use chainfire 3d somehow but wish to play it with the gamepad of course.
iPad 2 for me then
Would prefer Chinatown Wars than III as it was far superior IMO. Confident XP will be on the next devices released although R* haven't expressed much support for the play yet. Have sent them tonnes of tweets asking for Chinatown Wars!
I can't believe they added the iPhone 4 to the list but not the Xperia Play, a phone that can easily keep up to the iPhone.
Seriously, what were they thinking???
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Would prefer Chinatown Wars than III as it was far superior IMO. Confident XP will be on the next devices released although R* haven't expressed much support for the play yet. Have sent them tonnes of tweets asking for Chinatown Wars!
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This must be a joke? CHINATOWN WARS is probably the worst GTA game of all time.
Please tell me you were joking.
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I can't believe they added the iPhone 4 to the list but not the Xperia Play, a phone that can easily keep up to the iPhone.
Seriously, what were they thinking???
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even for iPod touch. hate that tiny screen
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This must be a joke? CHINATOWN WARS is probably the worst GTA game of all time.
Please tell me you were joking.
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Are You joking? Chinatown Wars is awesome, i played it on the nintendo ds and i loved it. Since the iphone has GTA Chinatown wars i think it could be ported if rockstar would listen to us...
Been looking forward to this.
i wonder when and which version
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/15/grand-theft-auto-heading-to-xperia-play/
As a former owner of an iPod, iPhone and iPad, I fear the game will seriously blow on the small-screen iDevices.
Seriously, 3.5-inch screen + touch-screen controls and your fingers blocking one third of the screen? What a pleasurable experience... NOT.
I would like to try the iPad version though, the on-screen controls are not that much a problem there because of the big screen. Anyway, I suspect they WILL port the game to Xperia Play sooner or later, I mean why not when the device is MADE to play these kinds of games? Some graphical compromises will probably have to be made though.
This is such a pain! :/ Hoping someone will upload an apk somewhere, I reckon Rockstar have lost alot of money here. If the iPhone 4 can run it the PLAY can easily.
The PLAY has so much potential but it seems to be being mostly ignored by major developers >.> I reckon Sony will bring out a dual-core version soon.
Oh, and hello xda-developers.
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This is such a pain! :/ Hoping someone will upload an apk somewhere, I reckon Rockstar have lost alot of money here. If the iPhone 4 can run it the PLAY can easily.
The PLAY has so much potential but it seems to be being mostly ignored by major developers >.> I reckon Sony will bring out a dual-core version soon.
Oh, and hello xda-developers.
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There has been absolutely nothing to indicate they will.
EA has been putting out exclusive titles for the Play (and giving them away for free), There are other devs that have Play exclusives as well. Its not being ignored at all.
Its ONE game... bfd....
I believe Rockstar said somehwere that it is not the final list of the phones.
i think note's processor should have the ability to play tegra games, am i right?
what should we do to be able to play them?
It's not a tegra device, so no. I've attempted to run several tegra only games using chainfire 3d, but it really just doesn't work. I've gotten the mass effect 3 wallpaper and dark meadow to work. Which is all limited to the Note 10.1, because I haven't been able to make ANYTHING work on my Galaxy S3. Just attempted Horn which is tegra 2 and 3, and it closes out before anything happens. If you want to play tegra only games, you'll want a tegra device. Or you can do what I do and make angry faces for nvidia causing a divide in the market, developers allowing it to happen by making tegra only games, and the consumers who happily support it. >.>
Some games like Dead Trigger can be hacked to enable Tegra3-only Ultra High graphics details with a simple file edit. I can confirm this works on my GN 10.1 and it's actually more stable and smoother than Tegra3 on my Nexus 7.
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/07/05/...gra-3-extended-effects-on-non-tegra-3-device/
Hi, has anyone tried chainfire 3d on an ICS stock-based rom?
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Hi, has anyone tried chainfire 3d on an ICS stock-based rom?
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I tried it because I had used it with HC, but it caused some games, i.e. Angry Birds to not render properly. The developer's description on Playstore says that it is not compatible with HC / ICS, so I would only expect problems.
I always thought that Chainfire 3d was to make Tegra games/graphics work on Non-Tegra chips. I mean I used it on a Motorola XT720 and a Samsung Vibrant, neither of which is a Tegra chipped device.
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I always thought that Chainfire 3d was to make Tegra games/graphics work on Non-Tegra chips. I mean I used it on a Motorola XT720 and a Samsung Vibrant, neither of which is a Tegra chipped device.
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Reading through the Chainfire thread, it looks like there was, at least, the possibility with certain plugins that are or may be written to be used with Chainfire 3d to allow Tegra Zone games to be played on non-Tegra devices or to use different shaders and such.
Thanks for posting, I wrote this thread because I wanted to have tegra 3 graphics on tegra 2. An example is riptide gp that has a lot of effects only
For tegra 3. I,ve found this Guide for Galaxy s3 but I think that it works with asus tf101. The develiper of chainfire 3d says that that it may work with ics/hc/jb but he doesn't know if it works.
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Thanks for posting, I wrote this thread because I wanted to have tegra 3 graphics on tegra 2. An example is riptide gp that has a lot of effects only
For tegra 3. I,ve found this Guide for Galaxy s3 but I think that it works with asus tf101. The develiper of chainfire 3d says that that it may work with ics/hc/jb but he doesn't know if it works.
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I think what you'll find is that Tegra 3 graphics effects are called such because it takes Tegra 3 hardware to have the capability to display them and while an app could be written to run on either platform that there is just no way that Tegra 2 can display Tegra 3 specific effects because they just aren't supported in the hardware. It's like expecting Direct X 11 effects on Direct X 10 hardware, it just doesn't fly.
All that I saw in the first couple of pages of the devs thread was that his app MAY work on other devices, but he clearly states that it is NOT compatible with HC/ICS/JB ROMs.
for example I've enabled tegra 3 graphics on dead trigger and it works for Asus transformer tf101! So I want to try chainfire 3d to enable tegra 3 graphics on other games. I wanted to know if chainfire 3d worked with ics on asus tf101. It may works on ICS, for example it works on Galaxy s3 , that has ics. Finally I think I'll try chainfire 3d on my tablet, if it doesn't boot, I can go on apx mode and unbrick it.