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Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?

I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.

Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.

I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...

Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.

Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.

AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."

z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen

The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.

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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.

AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.

Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"

Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.

I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!

put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win

I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

Nexus s vs captivate

Hi guys Rogers is getting the captivate next week is it worth the switch?
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Rogers has had the captivate for almost a year?
I don't understand your question.

I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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Lol that's right
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I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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I've wondered the same thing. I bought my cappy off contract and now have an upgrade choice. Dont think its worth using my upgrade. Gonna wait for something better later (sgs2? )
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Ya I got mine week ago so I have option to return it since there is so many problems and battery life I don't like.
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I'd say get it. It has native gingerbread and a front facing camera. And Google support so you know it will get updates on time!

All the great roms on this forum have made my phone enjoyable. If you aren't into flashing custom roms and all that, you probably should take it back. But dont get the nexus s. I'd say wait and se what the xperia arc reviews are like. That should be launching next month. Looks like a nice phone, except the locked bootloader.
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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Ya ibhave x10 not much fun cause of lock bootloader and my cappy running di11is rom
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Lol thank you and also thanks for translating. You read my mind haha
rnewton01 said:
but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Nexus S seems to have a locked bootloader(as mentioned), but another strike against it for me is no card slot: you are essentially stuck with 16GB, which should be enough for most people but it's nice to have to option to expand. Add to that an inability to shoot HD video and a less-flexible camera software and the Captivate still has the edge. You'd be better off holding out for some of the juicier dual-core whizbangs coming out this summer.

ScottyNuttz said:
If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.

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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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you and many other people need to be corrected (your sig included)
CM7 is NOT stock 2.3.3
it is built off the stock but MODIFIED. it is not stock gingerbread. its is CM's mod of gingerbread.
and on top of that it is still beta.

short answer is captivate is for users and nexus is for developers. the proprietary drivers on galaxy s phones are quite nice with hd video recording and some other things, also like the lockscreens and notification bars that incorperate the music player. but the advantages of samsung software come at a cost. the bluetooth 3.0 driver limits the usefulness, ie very few game controllers work. gingerbread also has obvious performance advantages on the hummingbird chip. but i believe the graphics benchmark in quadrant crashes because the 3d drivers are not designed to work with something in quadrant.
neither is a bad phone for most people, they are both the better looking of the galaxy s series with no iphone like bezels and each has a uniquness. things like hd video are over rated because the sensor isn't quite good enough so 720p recording comes out a little darker, better for a bright day really. and the graphical advantages of the captivate are not important to most because the powervr540 chp is so far ahead of the curve in the first place. run graphical benchmarks on a captivate vs any other phone and you will see better frame rates and the picture quality is far better, but there are many reasons to look at other phones.
the advantages of the nexus are also not make or break, from a user standpoint you would have a hard time coming up with an advantage to gingerbread. it is faster but is the captivate slow? well it can hang briefly in some situations but i was using a live display at bestbuy, it was butter smooth and was still on jf7, no froyo. i think the lag is a myth and total placebo effect perpetuated by reading this forum, the power of suggestion goes a long way. jf6 may have been a buggy rom but the later models are not that bad.
the wp7 htc surround was showing the connect to pc sign, lol even there phones have a bsod equivelant, and the nexus s was locked up, needed a battery pull but that would set off the alarm so they left it that way.
if it comes down to making the decision decide based on feature set and ui. if you like twiz smart dialer feature and sweeping contact menus and music player or if you have a big library of high quality music recodings (cd quality or better) and need all the storage posible then get a cappy, if you like to video chat or prefer an aosp rom or gaming via external controller then go for the nexus.
if i was to make a perfect phone it would be the nexus plus an hdmi port sd expansion slot and twiz dialer contacts and music player and samsung video drivers, i think the nexus looks better but i still envy phones with hdmi and the next generation of samsung phones are supposed to have a wireless equivalent to hdmi, not dlna that only plays files but a wireless link that transfers whats on your screen, this disappoints me because then you need a tv with the technology or a reciever. samsung tries too much to bring new things to the market without supporting old ways of doing things, a phone that can transmit hd but doesnt have hdmi is useless to most people, adding a new technology is great but taking out the world standard just reduces the usefulness. this is what happened with bt 3.0. ok wow it has a new bluetooth version great, but the bluetooth stack doesnt work with popular products on the market, although it is backwards compatable with bt 2.1 it lacks a meathod to pair certain products. not cool samsung! te same will happen to the galaxy s 2 and i would like to see if the infuse has hdmi. if it does i may get the infuse despite the galaxy s 2 being technically better. if no hdmi i will hold on to the cappy till something else comes out that i get excited over, maybe an htc if samsung doesnt get support for drm built into the chipset that is compatable with netflix.

I would wait for something better than the captivate.
The nexus S really isn't much better overall then the captivate, and has some major downsides.
If you just got the captivate and the question is whether to return it, then it depends what you need. For me the deal breaker is no SD card slot, and since I store all my music on my phone, I need the extra storage. The Nexus S on the other hand, has better long-term support, if you consider that google still updates the Nexus 1.

The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.

squarooticus said:
The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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I think thats really what it comes down to. Sure the cappy has problems, but most are fixed, all that is left are any hardware you want which it lacks (like a front-facing camera). Under these conditions, the phones on the market right now just aren't appealing enough. We're just starting to see tegra and dual core devices, so certainly waiting a year or more for these devices to become the standard is a good idea. Right now the cappy is a high-end phone, and the dual cores currently aren't much better. Waiting until there is a real difference is key.
I've got a year and a half before I can upgrade, but I know by the time that rolls around, there will be some very good devices on the market. And honestly, captivate development isn't slowing. we're getting 2.3, and it's smooth as butter on our device.

With so many out there today, which Android should I buy ?

Hey, I've been using winmo for almost 4 years now. I want to switch to Android now. But I see so many reviews and specs war each day. I'm actually confused on which one to buy. =|
So as for your experience please suggest me.
My requirements good gaming must support games from gameloft.
Full web browsing experience.
Good ROMS support, Overclocking support without burning (lol), CM7 support and most updated on XDA-Forums. (Like winmo's HD2 is most updated and feature full phone till date.)
It's not possible for me to goto each phone's thread and read the whole day lol. So please advise from your experience.
Thanks.
Ps. no 4G phones yet in my country. Just 3G.

Galaxy S2
That's my 2nd Android phone right after Nexus one and I am undoubtedly MEGA HAPPY

It all depends on country and carrier.
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thanks you both.. =)
well carrier doesn't matter to me. I want to buy a GSM model.
I was planning for Xperia Play but the 400mb ram and the heavy UI by SE is holding me back.

Atm the GS2 and HTC Sensation are the 2 high end phones out there. As they both house a dual core processor.
The sensation has higher resolution, de GS2 more memory.
in my opinion they are equal, but you might want to read into them a bit.

if you have money sgs2, if you dont have money sgs1.

I agree and samsung galaxy s II or I are really tough competitors especially when you inject them with voodoo!
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Whats the next phone u will buy

Its simple, whats the next phone/tablet u will buy and why so
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Lumia 900, no other phone on the market compares to the lumia 800 in form factor, durability, aesthetics, or speed. The 900 is the next logical step.

Xxul said:
Its simple, whats the next phone/tablet u will buy and why so
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I want a 11.6" 2560x1600 LCD/SAMOLED Tablet so I can compliment it with my Note.
I don't want a tablet with the same resolution as my Note.
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1. i am happy with my current phone...that is GS2.
2. if i plan to buy a new phone...it's going to be non other than GS3
3.if i want to buy camera based phone i will wait for few months and go for Sony Xperia S... because it seems to be promising !!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php

Here is my strategy,
I have a sensation which isnt so sensational, so i am selling it and getting a note.
Livewings said:
I want a 11.6" 2560x1600 LCD/SAMOLED Tablet so I can compliment it with my Note.
I don't want a tablet with the same resolution as my Note.
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As for tablets, i will wait till summer until prices drop and then try to grab something with a badass screen too

deependra said:
1. i am happy with my current phone...that is GS2.
2. if i plan to buy a new phone...it's going to be non other than GS3
3.if i want to buy camera based phone i will wait for few months and go for Sony Xperia S... because it seems to be promising !!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
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Or the htc titan 2, 16mpx but only 720p recording :facepalm:

I quite like the Nexus, but the screen is a bit too big for a daily mobile. I've currently got a Desire HD and thats big enough for me.
I currenty carry around an iPod Touch, my Desire HD, and a work Blackberry 9780. So Iwant something to combine my phone and iPod.
I'd love to stay with Android so I'll be watching closely to see what they can come up with that has descent battery life in the next 6 months - that way I can play my music on it without worrying about having enough charge for the rest of the day.

JFitness said:
I quite like the Nexus, but the screen is a bit too big for a daily mobile. I've currently got a Desire HD and thats big enough for me.
I currenty carry around an iPod Touch, my Desire HD, and a work Blackberry 9780. So Iwant something to combine my phone and iPod.
I'd love to stay with Android so I'll be watching closely to see what they can come up with that has descent battery life in the next 6 months - that way I can play my music on it without worrying about having enough charge for the rest of the day.
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TBH listening to music is the thing i do most on my phone

If my WFS breaks down i'll use my N900 again, Maemo > Android..

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Maemo > Android..
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Thats sth u dont see every day getting posted..

I really like my wife's BB Torch 9980. That might be my next move.

I want a xperia play 2
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GNexus... if it ever comes to Tmous. and not as a replacement to the Senny but just a second handset to play with. always wanted a developer phone...
if not, gonna wait it out to see how this whole quad core pans out.
I'm happy with my Senny right now so I'm in no rush.
on the tablet side, might pick up that new 7" Asus Tegra 3. at $249... cheap thrill.
(not that I really need a tablet)

Either HTC Rhyme or Galaxy W.
I hate big screens, and i'm looking for a descent screen that is not more than 3.5" and at the same time a good processor that is not less than 1GHz.

I'll be getting the gnex. This week.
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Think my next one will be a Samsung Galaxy Tab. At least it has a tegra GPU and ARMv7 cpu unlike my LG Optimus One. Too bad it costs a bunch of money(at least for me is kinda unaffordable)

deependra said:
1. i am happy with my current phone...that is GS2.
2. if i plan to buy a new phone...it's going to be non other than GS3
3.if i want to buy camera based phone i will wait for few months and go for Sony Xperia S... because it seems to be promising !!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
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Got The same Phone!
Will do same till 3rd step.
GS2's camera(s) is/are enough for me but if the Xperia S Gets DSLR lens and Capability then I will think about it. LOL!

I would get a high end phone since it's an investment, most likely for 2-3 years

Most likely when the Galaxy Nexus drops for Sprint, I'm getting it. And while so, I'll be waiting for the Galaxy S III. Love my current GSII/E4GT, so I'm hoping the GSIII will probably bring the same performance expectancy.

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To buy or not to

I am looking to get a new phone. Optimus T is my current. Fresh off a 2yr contract with T-mobile. I don't want to sign another one but I kinda do to save money right now. I found some G2X's for cheap but I am kinda set on a SGS2. My heart really is set on the next iPhone but if I have to use my low range android that long I might lose it and go all no electronics(yeah, right) So my question, is this phone good enough to settle on in case come summer I can't afford to make the jump back to apple or Is there something else maybe you might suggest? Any help appreciated.

Don't impulse buy or just because it is cheap(er). Especially, the decision should not primarily be based on price, it should be based on what you actually need. For example, do you need ICS or JB or will GB do? Do you need to keep the phone for every day use for 1 year, 2 years, etc. Do you need OTG to use the phone as a USB Host? Do you need a phone which is still supported by the manufacturer and has solid independent developer support? Do you need etc., etc., etc.,... Make a list, prioritize the items into must have, would like, research phones which have the must haves then the would likes in order of preference.

well whatever droid I get, I'm going to root the crap out of. I need it to keep me updated. Tired of friends saying hey play this game with me and I can't cause my phone isn't supported and or too slow. Gb, JB, Ics, doesn't matter as long as I can run all the hip apps/games and whatnot. I've spent so long with something that can't run anything, I don't even know whats out there to use now.Really I just want to know if this phone is still good enough to play games? yup it's going to get a rom and if I do get the g2x I'll need some info which one might be a good one to start on but what I am hoping is some insight. too many phones to weed through. also know any places to shop for smartphones? tried ebay and craigs and some others but not successful yet.

Don't get this phone, not worth it anymore. If you need something cheap get an HTC sensation.
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I wouldn't get the phone, development is at a halt since there isn't native drivers for ICS/JB. If the dev scene doesn't figure out how to get drivers to work, this phone will be stuck on GB forever. You're better off buying a different phone.
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screamline458 said:
I am looking to get a new phone. Optimus T is my current. Fresh off a 2yr contract with T-mobile. I don't want to sign another one but I kinda do to save money right now. I found some G2X's for cheap but I am kinda set on a SGS2. My heart really is set on the next iPhone but if I have to use my low range android that long I might lose it and go all no electronics(yeah, right) So my question, is this phone good enough to settle on in case come summer I can't afford to make the jump back to apple or Is there something else maybe you might suggest? Any help appreciated.
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Take a look at Nexus 4.

AFAIK this phone should have no problem playing the latest games given the proper custom firmware and kernel optimizations.
As for the argument of G2X having better sound than the GS2, I can say none of them even comes close to my 4 year old E-Series Walkman.
If you're looking for phones of this particular generation, I'd look at the Atrix 4G. Same SoC (Tegra 2), but double the RAM (1GB as opposed to 512MB), which should vastly improve video (read: gaming) performance and overall operation. They've managed to get ICS on it recently, too, so there will be hardware acceleration.

ya i agree, skip this phone.. anything LG as a matter of fact.

suggestions on phones? t-mobile friendly. I would get the Nexus 4 but stock is scarce and its more than I want to spend right now

screamline458 said:
suggestions on phones? t-mobile friendly. I would get the Nexus 4 but stock is scarce and its more than I want to spend right now
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HTC Sensation can be had for cheap. Has JB, ICS, and GB if you want it. I've got one and it's hard to justify upgrading to anything else. 64GB of storage with an SD card, dual core, extended battery for a penny ( literally), can't ask for much more.
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I would go for the s2, or one s if you don't mind no sd slot or removable battery.
Skip this phone, don't be a victim lol.

I had the exact same phone as you before I went out and wasted my money on two of these phones. I should have done a little more research before buying. Look elsewhere.

Get A SAMSAUNG GALAXY S2 or S3
That would be my advice.
The S4 is around the corner. If you can wait.
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T-MOBIL LG G2X (LG-P999)
STOCK (ROOTED)
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I would get the LG Optimus L9 (especially now that it's $199 starting Jan 9th). You wont have all the driver problems like you do with the G2x and it's a nice upgrade. If you are looking at cost for something brand new then get an Exhibit II from Walmart. It's $149 but also a single core phone. Otherwise used for cheap would probably be the sensation.

psychoace said:
I would get the LG Optimus L9 (especially now that it's $199 starting Jan 9th). You wont have all the driver problems like you do with the G2x and it's a nice upgrade. If you are looking at cost for something brand new then get an Exhibit II from Walmart. It's $149 but also a single core phone. Otherwise used for cheap would probably be the sensation.
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Who says you won't have driver problems? Not to mention LG has terrible software.
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Because they are open sourced unlike Nvidia's drivers and once throw on CM10 you wont have to worry about LG's software.

mbamg said:
but double the RAM (1GB as opposed to 512MB), which should vastly improve video (read: gaming) performance and overall operation.
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Not quite. A full gig of ram is only going to "vastly" improve performance if you're trying to do something that absolutely needs a full gig. That's true for computing in general, not just phones. Game performance is going to be far more reliant on the SoC. In very simple terms, memory holds information needed at hand while GPUs and CPUs crunch numbers and render images. That extra 1/2 gig is going to shine multitasking, not gaming. Anything else that really needs that full gig to perform is going to be bottlenecked by Tegra 2 anyway.
Regarding the phone dilemma, if you want an iPhone within a year I wouldn't dump a lot money into an interim phone. If you can snag a G2x SUPER cheap (less than $100 imho) it might be worth it, depending on how crappy your current phone is. It will handle most 3d games and absolutely everything 2d. A sensation would wear a lot better if you think you'll keep this next phone longer, but that'll probably run you a little more. You're getting into so-close-I-might-as-well-buy-a-Nexus with your GSII ambitions though.
You might as well buy a Nexus

psychoace said:
Because they are open sourced unlike Nvidia's drivers and once throw on CM10 you wont have to worry about LG's software.
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Open source until Google throws a screwball and requires new drivers that you won't have access to.
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redmonke255 said:
Open source until Google throws a screwball and requires new drivers that you won't have access to.
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That goes with every single device out there, so you're saying I shouldn't get any phone because of that chance. It's a TI processor which have been pretty great at keeping stuff open. Even then it's open source which is a whole lot better to deal with then the closed source Nvidia drivers. It's not like LG is using anything proprietary with this phone.

I would also tell you not buy this device. Go with s2 for now and wait till the next iPhone comes
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