Hi guys Rogers is getting the captivate next week is it worth the switch?
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Rogers has had the captivate for almost a year?
I don't understand your question.
I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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Lol that's right
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I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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I've wondered the same thing. I bought my cappy off contract and now have an upgrade choice. Dont think its worth using my upgrade. Gonna wait for something better later (sgs2? )
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Ya I got mine week ago so I have option to return it since there is so many problems and battery life I don't like.
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I'd say get it. It has native gingerbread and a front facing camera. And Google support so you know it will get updates on time!
All the great roms on this forum have made my phone enjoyable. If you aren't into flashing custom roms and all that, you probably should take it back. But dont get the nexus s. I'd say wait and se what the xperia arc reviews are like. That should be launching next month. Looks like a nice phone, except the locked bootloader.
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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Ya ibhave x10 not much fun cause of lock bootloader and my cappy running di11is rom
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Lol thank you and also thanks for translating. You read my mind haha
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Nexus S seems to have a locked bootloader(as mentioned), but another strike against it for me is no card slot: you are essentially stuck with 16GB, which should be enough for most people but it's nice to have to option to expand. Add to that an inability to shoot HD video and a less-flexible camera software and the Captivate still has the edge. You'd be better off holding out for some of the juicier dual-core whizbangs coming out this summer.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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you and many other people need to be corrected (your sig included)
CM7 is NOT stock 2.3.3
it is built off the stock but MODIFIED. it is not stock gingerbread. its is CM's mod of gingerbread.
and on top of that it is still beta.
short answer is captivate is for users and nexus is for developers. the proprietary drivers on galaxy s phones are quite nice with hd video recording and some other things, also like the lockscreens and notification bars that incorperate the music player. but the advantages of samsung software come at a cost. the bluetooth 3.0 driver limits the usefulness, ie very few game controllers work. gingerbread also has obvious performance advantages on the hummingbird chip. but i believe the graphics benchmark in quadrant crashes because the 3d drivers are not designed to work with something in quadrant.
neither is a bad phone for most people, they are both the better looking of the galaxy s series with no iphone like bezels and each has a uniquness. things like hd video are over rated because the sensor isn't quite good enough so 720p recording comes out a little darker, better for a bright day really. and the graphical advantages of the captivate are not important to most because the powervr540 chp is so far ahead of the curve in the first place. run graphical benchmarks on a captivate vs any other phone and you will see better frame rates and the picture quality is far better, but there are many reasons to look at other phones.
the advantages of the nexus are also not make or break, from a user standpoint you would have a hard time coming up with an advantage to gingerbread. it is faster but is the captivate slow? well it can hang briefly in some situations but i was using a live display at bestbuy, it was butter smooth and was still on jf7, no froyo. i think the lag is a myth and total placebo effect perpetuated by reading this forum, the power of suggestion goes a long way. jf6 may have been a buggy rom but the later models are not that bad.
the wp7 htc surround was showing the connect to pc sign, lol even there phones have a bsod equivelant, and the nexus s was locked up, needed a battery pull but that would set off the alarm so they left it that way.
if it comes down to making the decision decide based on feature set and ui. if you like twiz smart dialer feature and sweeping contact menus and music player or if you have a big library of high quality music recodings (cd quality or better) and need all the storage posible then get a cappy, if you like to video chat or prefer an aosp rom or gaming via external controller then go for the nexus.
if i was to make a perfect phone it would be the nexus plus an hdmi port sd expansion slot and twiz dialer contacts and music player and samsung video drivers, i think the nexus looks better but i still envy phones with hdmi and the next generation of samsung phones are supposed to have a wireless equivalent to hdmi, not dlna that only plays files but a wireless link that transfers whats on your screen, this disappoints me because then you need a tv with the technology or a reciever. samsung tries too much to bring new things to the market without supporting old ways of doing things, a phone that can transmit hd but doesnt have hdmi is useless to most people, adding a new technology is great but taking out the world standard just reduces the usefulness. this is what happened with bt 3.0. ok wow it has a new bluetooth version great, but the bluetooth stack doesnt work with popular products on the market, although it is backwards compatable with bt 2.1 it lacks a meathod to pair certain products. not cool samsung! te same will happen to the galaxy s 2 and i would like to see if the infuse has hdmi. if it does i may get the infuse despite the galaxy s 2 being technically better. if no hdmi i will hold on to the cappy till something else comes out that i get excited over, maybe an htc if samsung doesnt get support for drm built into the chipset that is compatable with netflix.
I would wait for something better than the captivate.
The nexus S really isn't much better overall then the captivate, and has some major downsides.
If you just got the captivate and the question is whether to return it, then it depends what you need. For me the deal breaker is no SD card slot, and since I store all my music on my phone, I need the extra storage. The Nexus S on the other hand, has better long-term support, if you consider that google still updates the Nexus 1.
The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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I think thats really what it comes down to. Sure the cappy has problems, but most are fixed, all that is left are any hardware you want which it lacks (like a front-facing camera). Under these conditions, the phones on the market right now just aren't appealing enough. We're just starting to see tegra and dual core devices, so certainly waiting a year or more for these devices to become the standard is a good idea. Right now the cappy is a high-end phone, and the dual cores currently aren't much better. Waiting until there is a real difference is key.
I've got a year and a half before I can upgrade, but I know by the time that rolls around, there will be some very good devices on the market. And honestly, captivate development isn't slowing. we're getting 2.3, and it's smooth as butter on our device.
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I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?
I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.
Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.
I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen
The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.
Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"
Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
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Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.
I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!
put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win
I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.
Which you guys think is better and why? Please share your thoughts
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Which you guys think is better and why? Please share your thoughts
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The concave screen on the Nexus S is cool, but mostly I like it better because it is AOSP, plus it will actually get updated on a regular basis.
The one thing that kept me back from the Nexus was removable storage. I wanted my phone to replace my 32GB mp3/video player and 16GB just won't cut it. So I went with the Captivate - 16GB onboard + 32GB SD FTW!
I bought a Nexus S off contract to use with AT&T, but it wasn't worth the 600 dollar price tag. Except for the hardware limitations(no micro sd, no digital zoom) it was just a fixed Captivate, meaning the GPS worked and the operating system was up to date.
I returned the Nexus S once i saw that my Captivate(on Cognition) was nearly its equal, but honestly I would have kept it, if it had been offered by AT&T. The build quality was on par with the Iphone 4, and it was nice to have a working GPS.
Hi Dell2,
Try the Paragon rom then for an awesome GPS. I was on the Cognition rom for the first 3 weeks of my Captivate, then switched to the Paragon Rom. Takes 5 seconds for it to lock on in Navigation or Maps! SOLID!
I am not a fan of the transition graphics on Paragon compared to Cognition, but damn, a working GPS made it all worth it.
So I should buy captivate? Cause right now I have x10 and really bored of it
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only if you're willing to tweak the captivate with flashing the rom/kernel
if you don't rely on GPS - take captivate, but you must do aftermarket customizations for perfomance increase
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if you don't rely on GPS - take captivate, but you must do aftermarket customizations for perfomance increase
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Not ALL Captivates have GPS problems. I've had three so far in it locks on in seconds to the centimeter.
If your not going to use 3g and want better GPS then I would go for the Nexus S.
If 3g is important to you and want to roll the dice with GPS, than go to your att retailer that is quite busy with sales, and hope for build 1012.
If none of those appeal to you then wait about a month or so for the new android phones, I would.
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Not ALL Captivates have GPS problems. I've had three so far in it locks on in seconds to the centimeter.
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The NSA will be in touch with you.
GPS issue can be fixed very easily on the captivate.
I think nexus s is better cause personally I hate at&t
I like the nexus s design better.
Nexus s has 2 cameras and a flash.
So I would go with nexus s.
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so it's just a pros/cons thread... go google yourself a ifferences, and then you can chooose.
How is the camera on captivate? Is it faster than x10
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There's no competition.
Nexus S.
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I dont used X10 - so can't tell. But yeah, pretty fast.
Anyone switch from a Nexus S?
If so, how do you like it compared to the Nexus S? Happy about the switch or having second thoughts?
On paper it sounds superior with the exception of the screen.
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I switched from a nexus s, and I love it. I think the screen is a lot more vivid and colorful then the nexus s. I'm still going to keep the nexus because it will always get the newer os's first, but I haven't touched it since getting the g2x. I would say after using it for a few days, battery life is pretty much comparable,it's about the same. Once we get cm7 on here I'm sure it will just be a that much better
G2X
I wouldn't switch due to waiting for updates...just look at the g2 and don't tell me about LG is different and blah blah..T-Mobile still has to test and choose when to send it out. So I would stick with the Nexus S..unless you have no problem waiting a extra 6 months when ice creams comes out ..
I'm thinking once cyanogen mod works on it I won't even need to worry about updates. It will probably have more active community development I guess. Hardware wise it sounds like a superior device. The Galaxy S II is taking a while to hit the market and the sensation may have a locked bootloader I heard... I like the idea of HDMI mirroring.. Nexus S can't do that.
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I'm thinking once cyanogen mod works on it I won't even need to worry about updates. It will probably have more active community development I guess. Hardware wise it sounds like a superior device. The Galaxy S II is taking a while to hit the market and the sensation may have a locked bootloader I heard... I like the idea of HDMI mirroring.. Nexus S can't do that.
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Well what ever floats your boat then ..
I though about it but i dont like the screen dont care what anyone says it doesn't compare to an OLED panel
BTW my friend has a g2x so ive compared side by side
only 512 ram
no mkv playback this sucks when you have HDMI mirror.
would be perfect to have some nice 1080mkv blu ray movies on phone to mirror to my HD TV
Game are OK but still being stretched out to fit so they get pixelated...
Also only 8gb for main storage
Im waiting for SGS2 international and hopefully i get enough cash
bigger screen samoled PLUS
1.2 ghz dual core Orion
1gb ram
16-32gb storage plus ext SD slot
plays every video and most audio codec under the sun with hardware encoding
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I just sold my nexus s on ebay. And I have no regrets. This phone is so much faster and of course I love having a sd card slot. I prefer this form factor over the nexus s. This screen is has better color, more vivid and improved clarity. But the nexus s's blacks are to die for. I also have the thunderbolt and I previously owned the g2, the mytouch 4g, and the samsung vibrant. This is the best phone currently on the market. Hdmi, full 1080p video recording, and dual core processor. The design is simple and elegant. Great phone.
Don't let the 512mb of ram fool you. This baby flies it runs circles around the thunderbolt, which has 768mb ram. Right now, no other phone can rival it's performance. And it's so easy to root, so there should be ample dev support. Yes there may better devices down the line, but that's the nature of technology.
I switched from a nexus s because this device is packed with features I would use that the ns didn't have. To be honest, to me, going from a ns to g2x its more of an upgrade than when I went from a g1 to a vibrant.
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Anyone switch from a Nexus S?
If so, how do you like it compared to the Nexus S? Happy about the switch or having second thoughts?
On paper it sounds superior with the exception of the screen.
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I switched from the NS and have not had any second thoughts. Great device, very happy with it.
I switched from a Nexus S. The screen, IMO, is damn near as good as the Nexus S...but not quite as nice. Very close though.
Other than that, it's a huge upgrade. The thing freakin' screams compared to the NS, even an overclocked NS. With CM on it, I'd think there would be no comparison.
My Nexus S is going on Ebay, I'm more than thrilled with the G2X. The screen is sharper, phone is fast (can clearly tell watching beautiful widgets weather animations), and I like the feel and weight of the phone. When CM7 is out, it will be even better.
So I went to the store and played with it. I am going to wait and see what the HTC Sensation looks like on June 8th. Hopefully they will announce launch dates for the Galaxy S II by then also.
The phone was built well.. the screen was pretty nice looking but not as responsive as the Nexus S.
The connection was full bars 4G and it got 1500ish kbps down on my first test and then 3700ish kbps down on a second test. Right next to it my non hspa+ Nexus S pulled down just shy of 5000kbps.
Calls at full volume crackled..
I hope cyanogen and/or LG quickly release Gingerbread offerings for it.
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Im looking into buying a nexus s and just wanna see what ppl on these forums have to say about it. Overall is it a good phone? how's the rooting process hard? Does rooting vastly improve it like it did my hero? General opinions on the phone?
Thanks for any input
Like you, I came from a HTC Hero. Rooting isn't necessary to squeeze more performance from the nexus s compared to the hero. Having said that, it is strongly recommended to root it because it allows you to do so much more on the nexus s. In terms of performance wise, rooting does not "vastly" improve the performance.
General opinions of the phone are its great! Go get it.
The rooting process is extremely simple. Go do a quick search on the forums.
Great phone. Fairly easy to root. The guides available are great as long as you follow it verbatim. The phone itself is fast as is and has large internal memory for apps. Rooting is worth it IMO. The extra overclock and undervolt keeps the phone always running fluid and increases battery life significantly.
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Thanks for the input guys...REALLY looking forward to gettin this
Im getting another one this will be my 3rd. Its def a keeper. Vanilla and constant updates 1st
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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I actually thought Hero sent the trend on how Android devices should look and function.
Anyway, imo, nexus s is the best android phone, I just got one yesterday, samoled version (dislike slcd), I love everything about the phone. It even performs better than my brother's HTC Sensation even with its dual core.
my next phone will either be the next nexus or galaxy s3.
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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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bimmerboii said:
I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I love my Nexus S (coming from an HTC Magic), but if you already have a Galaxy S, I don't think it's worth the trouble: they have pretty much the same hardware inside. In addition, IIRC, Galaxy S has Gorilla glass, a SD card slot, FM radio and 720p recording.
The best thing about the Nexus S is that it's vanilla Android, constantly updated and officially supported by Google. It has NFC, which the Galaxy S doesn't have, and gets better support from app developers as well. I didn't need all those hardware features the Galaxy S had: I just wanted *the* Google phone :-D.
Basically, the Nexus line is much better supported than the Galaxy S line, but if you're in XDA, I guess you won't mind flashing a vanilla ROM to your Galaxy S.
Thanks for your reply. You made good points on my deciding factor. But even if im on xda, i hate having to flash my phone all the time (my sgs is stock). I just want the latest version of android.
Here's the thing.. Someone wants to buy my sgs for $300. I have credits on my account and could get the nexus s for $308 all in. Or i can just save my credits and let it accumulate over the next few months to buy a better phone. But im really itching for a stock vanilla android phone. Decisions decisions...
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
I came from a desire hd, that in specs is worse of nxs, and i am pretty much satisfeid with it. I guess the point is: it's good to look specs, but it is only half part, the other half is about daily usage.
Back to the question, if i were you i would wait a little bit more, swap for a nealy phone, more than 6 months old... maybe you can get a sgs II or wait for the new nexus prime, i just dont know if it a good idea.. =o)
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
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I think the only additional thing Nexus S has is flash. I have my own reservations about the quality of HTC phones after using HTC Desire for few weeks. But if the choice is between SGS and NS, SGS clearly has an edge. But again, its individual's choice. Whatever works the best for you.
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Absolutely disagree. I've had the vibrant for the last 9 months and thought it was awesome but then the lag gets unbearable because of the file system. I went in with my brother and dad and got a family plan and we got the nexus s since I thought that would be the best (hulu, Netflix, etc all came out first for it) and you get software updates first too from Google. And the phone is wicked fast. I thought I would miss touchwiz and all the quirks but you know what I did for like 3 days. And the battery life on this sucker is amazing. I think its a great buy especially for me. But each his own. People have different wants and needs and everybody needs to do their research before buying and investing in something so expensive.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Well I do not disagree. Galaxy S does need a little bit of tweaking to get the full performance out of it. All I did with my SGS was to install JVO 2.3.4, root it and this changed it to a totally different phone. Yes, I use stock gingerbread launcher and keyboard instead of touchwiz or Samsung keyboard. All of this takes hardly 30 minutes.
Nexus S is definitely fast out of the box. But gorilla glass, FM radio, expandable memory slot, better video recording give SGS an edge over NS. SGS just needs half an hour more to reveal its potential.
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I wrote a review to answer this first post.
Here is a review I put together as I had same initial questions. Hope it helps.
My first experience with android was rooting a Hero, since then I enjoyed a year with a rooted EVO, but after several boot-looping experiences which I was unable to correct, the phone had become unusable, and I was forced to choose a new phone a little more premature than I would have liked. I had my heart set on the specs of the Galaxy S II but after enjoying two HTC phones and how easily they were rooted I also leaned toward the EVO 3D. I will admit here, that I was a “flash-aholic” when it came to trying out new ROMs and kernels, and would probably continue to have been so if it weren’t for the boot-loop and force closing problem I was having.
I decided to go ahead and get a Sprint Nexus S 4G instead of waiting another ten days for the EVO 3D, knowing that if I didn’t have a good experience with the Nexus, I could return it within the 30 day trial period. The Sprint rep. was very helpful and honest with his assistance, he showed me that the Nexus even in the store was not picking up as good a signal as the EVO 4G, and I expressed concern about receiving signal at my residence, as frequently I had to step outside in the back yard to have a phone conversation using the EVO.
Initial setup of the Nexus was surprisingly easy, but just as suspected the signal at home was weak, though not any worse than the EVO. A call to Sprint tech support the next day helped when they offered to send me an Airave unit, which I received in only one week and found a dramatic improvement for not only my phone but my wife’s EVO as well. Thank you Sprint!
My next adventure was whether or not to root this phone, as I held off until I decided I was going to keep it. It was a little bit of a challenge for me to set up adb capabilities on my computer but worth the research. So I was now set up to make the root possible, however, reading up on the Nexus didn’t convince me that rooting was to my best advantage at this time, so I have held off. The signal problem had been resolved, my battery life has been great, my phone is extremely fast, and tethering works right out of the box, most importantly is everything works well without bugs or any other problems. This doesn’t mean I won’t root when I see a clear advantage in the future, and fortunately rooting the Nexus is as easy as it can get.
Instead I have used ADW EX customizations to optimize this phone for my best android experience, and it is this point convincing me to keep it. The Nexus S has none of the Sprint bloat-ware profligation, and none of the manufacturer skin-ware. Using ADW EX and android widgets, I was able to customize my Nexus to suit my needs perfectly. The best part of the experience is that I got to choose how my phone worked, and my phone now operates exactly how I want it to, I might also mention that Launcher Pro would work very well also. Ah, the beauty of android.
Later the next week I went into a local RadioShack to have hands-on time with the EVO 3D to make certain I had made the best choice. I did that Sense 3 twirl thing and the rep mentioned the limitations of Nexus screen scrolling, I showed him that my phone also had infinity scrolling. He was surprised and didn’t go any further.
Sure the latest summer phones have better specs, more powerful hardware, and unique features (3D), but for me at least, they don’t really make for a better android experience than a Nexus. Here is a list of widgets I have included on my screens.
Agenda widget keeps an excellent display of my appointments.
Springpad for notes and general organization uses.
Google+ widget, as well as android system widget for general phone info.
I use Jorte calendar to fill up one entire screen.
The control widget for quick access to phone controls.
The Starbuck coffee widget cause I gotta admit, I like my coffee.
Skype video calls work excellently and I use it frequently since most phone users still don’t have Google Talk video. I have combined Facebook with Twitter using Tweetdeck, and this app I keep in an easily accessible hidden dock which contains many of my frequently used apps, one of the best features of ADW EX and used by many ROMs such as Cyanogen.
The overall flow and performance of the phone is flawless, handling multi-functioning easily, Bluetooth works very well, wi-fi at home and at my local Starbucks is good, pictures are adequate and the general feel of the phone is sleek without giving up that much on size coming from an EVO slab phone user. The idea that updates get pushed out to Nexus phones before anyone else will keep me a happy user for some time to come as the Nexus is a developer’s phone hence new applications often come to this phone first, the recent case of Skype video calling is a great example.
What do I miss most, or wished improved? I must admit I do miss that EVO kickstand, which was a nice feature though I can’t help but think it would mess with the sleekness of the Nexus. The missing sd card hasn’t been an issue for me, but I suppose it could be for others. There are times I still miss the LED notification light, though that is minor thing. I have read others complain of the back being slick and a fingerprint magnet, but I stuck an Egrip strip with a cool image to help in handling the phone better and reduce the space for smudges.
Are there better phones out there this summer? Sure, if you go by hardware specs, so if photo quality is important to you with a better camera and more features such as 3D, or if you just can’t live without that LED notification light, the Nexus may not be for you. A dual core phone is slightly faster, but hardly noticeable and does 1 second or less really make that much difference? Do they make better use of the android system though? In my opinion this is where the Nexus excels and for me that is the true strength of this phone and why I suggest giving it a serious consideration.
I would probably keep the galaxy s in favor of the nexus s, mainly because of the browser-lag issue in the nexus. It is a great phone, but I don't think vanilla android brings to the table that much you should sell your galaxy. Hardware wise you would be gaining nothing.
You almost might as well wait for the next nexus that probably will come at the same time as ice-cream sandwich (Q4). Nexus is nice because you get the updates almost immediately, but Google has indicated that there will be no major updates before the launch of ICS. So why not wait for the phone that launches with ICS?
i just LOVE nexus s... Fast smooth amazing battery life, bought it two days ago and i completely fell in love with it. Coming from htc sense i thought vanilla would feel a little "vanilla" but no sir, the speed and the battery pays off sure if ur a guy who likes to use camera a lot then sgs might be a better option, but for all other things i believe sns is better. plus the curved screen is sexy
of course, most people here recognize this phone as good one. you know this phone even been to Space. how great.. haha
How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.
Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.
The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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requiem3 said:
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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corythug said:
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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corythug said:
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung