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Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
duongnt said:
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
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Ditto!! So annoyed since I too am coming from HD2 where HyperDroid's consumption had dropped to a flat 2mA in standby. This is insane for a native android device. Not to mention the heating while playing games and most importantly, the front facing camera producing upside down image during fring video chats.. grrr!
Dunno what the cause OR solution is (besides switching over to a custom rom if and when the BL gets unlocked and people like pongster develop for this device)...
Overall, sexy device but disappointed with such major holes left unattended..
A little offtopic but was a battery related questions and did not wanna start a new thread so posting here -
Does anybody know of if there's any app which can get the battery percent to show in the top bar instead of the default indicator?
Thanks
EDIT: neva mind... found it... everybody's allwoed 1 dumb post once in a while
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
xnifex said:
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried using current widget but I guess because it's not rooted, current widget showed me a log of 0mA all throughout (yeah rite! hehe)
when I figure it out myself I'll let you know.
Current things I found that killed my battery over night: VTOK & Google Latitude
I went into Settings --> About Phone --> Battery --> Battery Use and checked, and it says display is eating most of my battery.
As far as mine, I get about 12 hours of battery life with standard usage, with the display eating most of the life, so if you're saying the screen is off, you might get different results...
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
r3v0Lut10n said:
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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well it certainly sounds like a part of it is specimen issue.. here's my latest experience... last few times i have let it completely discharge and then charge back while the phone was off so i dont mess with it... once 100% charged, i switched the phone on and received a call.. a 25 minute conversation ate away 15% of my battery... LOL...
then, (now it gets better)... in 2 hrs of standby, the phone was at 60% which means it lost another 15% battery in 2 hrs of "standby".. im not sure if i can even call that state a "standby" anymore...
anyways... im wondering if its worth pinning hopes on rom development on our forum or should i just return this and go with something like nexus S which, O well, I can live with... atleast it has a 3300mA batterypack available... what's the use of kickass speeds and features if i have to use a phone like a desktop..
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
Battery gauge stuck at 100%
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
JohannFaust said:
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Yes, the rating will go downhill pretty quick after that. Mine behaves in the same way.
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Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
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Thanks for the pointer.. I will surely try that and see if it makes a difference..
That being said, call me crazy but it just occurs to me that HTC should be putting in some minimal efforts to check off basic quirks like battery consumption and QC. I mean all of us are spending a buttload of money on these devices year over year and then we rely on our devs here to give us basic functionality. Back in the days the reason people joined forums was to tweak devices.. Now it almost feels like we might as well expect only the hardware for the price we pay... disappointed!
Anywho...
I fully charged the phone before I went to bed last night. Eight hours later, the battery is at 10%. Is there something wrong with the battery?
Try using the Spare Parts app to see what's really using the battery in detail.
I just got a new battery for my phone from t-mobile and want to make sure to charge and break it in right from the start. I currently own a G2X and am a rookie when it comes to knowing about kernels, roms and etc (i have been studying little by little). I have a somewhat good understanding and have tried a couple things to get my battery life right.When I first got my G2X, I played with it right out of the box for about 5 minutes and the battery was at 30% from about 35%, then I only let it charge to about 80% and had to leave. I have ONLY had one good day of battery usage and that was after my first day of using setCPU & being rooted. It is currently rooted using the unlockr tutorial, "setCPU" from the market and have only one profile for "screen off" 216min-456max. I have read at least 70% of the battery threads about my phone already. I turn off gps, wi-fi and have screen brightness set to auto. Also I have deleted qik video, t-mobile account app and all the other major bloatware that comes with the phone but still get bad battery life. If you guys want, I can post a picture of my juice plotter battery stats. Please help me out i'm looking to bring in my new battery the right way or fix my old one and have the new one as a spare.
Edit:I put this in the wrong thread. excuse my noob/rookie mistake lol. sorry
I just got a new battery for my phone from t-mobile and want to make sure to charge and break it in right from the start. I currently own a G2X and am a rookie when it comes to knowing about kernels, roms and etc (i have been studying little by little). I have a somewhat good understanding and have tried a couple things to get my battery life right.When I first got my G2X, I played with it right out of the box for about 5 minutes and the battery was at 30% from about 35%, then I only let it charge to about 80% and had to leave. I have ONLY had one good day of battery usage and that was after my first day of using setCPU & being rooted. It is currently rooted using the unlockr tutorial, "setCPU" from the market and have only one profile for "screen off" 216min-456max. I have read at least 70% of the battery threads about my phone already. I turn off gps, wi-fi and have screen brightness set to auto. Also I have deleted qik video, t-mobile account & all the other major bloatware that comes with the phone but still get bad battery life. If you guys want, I can post a picture of my juice plotter battery stats. Please help me out i'm looking to bring in my new battery the right way or fix my old one and have the new one as a spare.
hmmm.... did i not specify clear enough or what?
This has been covered in countless threads. You're battery life is not "unusual" Use the search Feature. Under the G2X general section there is a HUGE post on the second or third page about improving the G2X battery life.
Can u link me to i please if you dont mind
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Hello Everyone,
I have been asked to put together an instruction on how to correctly calibrate
your Sammy Charge battery... so here it goes.
First of all you need to be ROOTED there are plenty of roms and kernels here
for you to pick from so get the package you want Odin or Clockwork whatever you want.
-i will be referring to Clockwork Recovery Mod as 'cwr' from now on-
I am currently running IMNUTS 710 Non-Overclock Kernel and Humble 1.4.2 ROM. Humble ROM comes with a battery calibration app that you might find helpful for this task.
The kernel or rom you have doesnt matter for calibration but you must have the latest cwr witch is bundled with any of IMNUTS' Kernels.
You may have heard of the term 'Bump Charging' this only needs to be done before you calibrate (so you Chargers that are doing this every full charge, you are wasting your time). I will explain what this is if you do not know.
Here are the steps:
1.Turn your phone ON and charge it to 100%
2Turn your phone OFF and leave it plugged in. (you will notice that the battery will begin to
charge again but it will not be at 100% anymore it will show something like 95%.
3.LEt your phone get back to 100% (it will vibrate when it is done)
4.Unplug your phone, wait 30 seconds, and plug it back in.
5.WTH! it is back to 95% again!dont panic... LEt it charge again to 100% (2-5 minutes)
6.Now do it again. (unplug wait 30 seconds, plug in, let charge to 100%)
continue this until it shows 100% after 10-20 seconds on plug in. (it took me 15 times,
although i have seen upwards of 20 times)
- some users are saying that the time does not decrease to 100% while doing step 6, 20 times is good enough as all phones/batteries are not from the same mold-
7.Now boot into cwr (if you dont know how then you shouldnt be here)
8.Go to the advanced menu and 'wipe battery stats'
9.Reboot phone via cwr
(((this is where it will differ from the other posts or whatever)))'
10.Drain your phone to 0% and immediately plug it in. (others will tell you to let it die completely and shut itself off... YOUR PHONE WILL NOT LOG CHARGING INFORMATION IF IT IS OFF!!! ((I suggest you do a little troubleshooting to see when your phone will actually turn off. Mine turns off after being at 0% for a few mins. Your's may shut off at anywhere between 10%-0%. If it does shut off just turn it on again and plug it in)). Basically what u am saying is make sure your phone is ON during charging while doing these steps.
11.Charge to 100% (DO NOT UNPLUG IT WHILE IT IS CHARGING... if you get a call or a txt it is fine to use it a bit (and for clearification on 'proper charging' I contacted Samsung it is OKAY to use phone while charging (my bad)).
12.I did this full charge and full drain, plug in at 0% -ON charging, 4 times.
13.Charge it whenever you want.
The android OS logs 'battery stats' and charging habits based on a small window of use. Following these directions will let your phone lock in enough information to max out your battery life.
With strong 4G signal expect 18-20 hours of light use. If you are in a known 4G deadzone download LTE Switch from the Market, it lets you turn off the 4G radio and run only 3G. I personally turn off mobile data unless i need it and have no syncing actions automated. My best uptime was 41 hours and 12 minutes to 0%. Dont forget that all roms and kernels are different so your results will vary. If you are on your phone all the time... playing games, on the net, making calls you will of course have less time.. with heavy use i can burn 10%-15% an hour easy. Get rid of your 'antivirus' crap, your monitoring apps all that shat... it will only sacrifice your battery and it is unnecessary.
For those wondering about LAGFIX:
AlexDeGruven states-
'RFS is the bastard child of FAT and a Samsung developer who didn't understand how modern filesystems work with NAND storage. It has nothing to do with battery usage. For data access, the longer it takes to access the data, the longer the processor is waiting and running wasted cycles. The faster the data is returned from storage, the less battery gets used.'
So turn it on or leave it off, up to you.
I hope this helps everyone get calibrated.
Let me know if you have any questions.
(916) 877-4460 or forum it up!
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Nice. Hopefully this will stop clogging the forums a little bit.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42
Why is this in the dev forum?
suzook said:
Why is this in the dev forum?
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...because everyone asks in the rom threads. Im just trying to be helpful so we don't see the same questions over and over again by those who refuse to actually look for info. This way they don't have to go too far.
Thanks criticalhit. If the mods have a problem with the location of this thread...I'm sure they'll move it. Thanks again for the tutorial.
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Thanks criticalhit. If the mods have a problem with the location of this thread...I'm sure they'll move it. Thanks again for the tutorial.
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I pmd the mod in charge of the charge dev forums already with reasoning why it should stay.. so we shall see.
I <3 Humble 142!
I went to 100% let it die. next day i used it normal and it was "ok". today my phone has been off the charge for 16 hours now and im still at 39%. Display took 80% of my battery so I'm sure i could easily idle for a few days. the whole time i had 4g and gps on. btw im at stock voltages and oc'd to 1.1ghz
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I went to 100% let it die. next day i used it normal and it was "ok". today my phone has been off the charge for 16 hours now and im still at 39%. Display took 80% of my battery so I'm sure i could easily idle for a few days. the whole time i had 4g and gps on. btw im at stock voltages and oc'd to 1.1ghz
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Yeah display burns it up fast. And if you don't have strong 4g 4-5 bars it will constantly 'look' for a better signal where is cycles from 3g to 1x to 4g... eventually someone will write an app or make a system change to combat this.. (I hope). I wish I had the knowledge to do this and make our phones satisfied with low signal strength. :/
I <3 Humble 142!
Well written post... thank you
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Well written post... thank you
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Hey thanks mang! Im going to do a 3g only all day tomorrow to see what kind of life I get... will update on findings (I usually data off completely).
I <3 Humble 142!
This is exceptional. Great job. Appreciate it man.
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I am finally getting some decent life
Thanks for writing this and for all the other posts you have spread about your methods, yes I read them.
Today was my best day by far. I was 11hrs and 20 minutes unplugged today when I got home and still had 25% of my battery left. I work in a 4G market, and for the first time today I left 4G off and only had mobile data on a few times. I had 1 hr 30 minutes of cell talking ( thats a lot for me) and had my display on 1hr and 48 minutes. This is on the same ROM and Kernal CritalHits is running (with lagfix enabled).
For those of you that think you can't carry this phone around without a charger, you are wrong (glad I finally beleive this). You just can't have your foot on the Hemi throttle all day and expect to get Prius mileage.
Ya I have at least 4 bars of 4g all over my town. I saw 3g once and it changed back to 4g right away
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Awesome post. I've read a couple other posts on battery calibration. They've been somewhat similar (except for the last part, like you pointed out), but not as clear.
I do have a question though: Are battery stats erased along with data and other stuff when you flash a new rom, for example? I'm just wondering if this is something you should do every time you flash a new rom and require a data/cache reset. I'm assuming so, since you mentioned that each rom's battery level may vary.
Anyway, thanks again!
leenephi said:
Awesome post. I've read a couple other posts on battery calibration. They've been somewhat similar (except for the last part, like you pointed out), but not as clear.
I do have a question though: Are battery stats erased along with data and other stuff when you flash a new rom, for example? I'm just wondering if this is something you should do every time you flash a new rom and require a data/cache reset. I'm assuming so, since you mentioned that each rom's battery level may vary.
Anyway, thanks again!
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yes, every time you wipe data, cache and delvik...recalibrate. Good method. This was the same method posted a year ago or so to help the Dinc get better battery life.
If the battery is properly calibrated shouldn't it make sense to only have to bump charge once?
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42
This is the right place for this thread. The Charge forum moderator specifically said "*Only ROM Development, Hacks, Mods, Fixes, Reference, and Tutorials go in the Dev Section"
This is clearly a tutorial, and clearly belongs here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074281
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10.Drain your phone to 0% and immediately plug it in. (others will tell you to let it die completely and shut itself off... DO NOT LET IT DIE! YOUR PHONE WILL NOT LOG CHARGING INFORMATION IF IT IS OFF!!!
11.Charge to 100% (DO NOT USE OR UNPLUG IT WHILE IT IS CHARGING... if you get a call or a txt ignore it).
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There's a problem with your process, and it is step 10. Some Charges will shutdown prior to hitting 0% battery level. I've seen my Charge auto-shutdown at 5%, 3%, 2% and 1%.
Also, I don't see the point of letting it drain to zero then charging it back up to 100% without any use. One more thing, you didn't specify whether you wanted the phone off or on during step 11's charge process, but I'll assume you want the device on considering the fact that you mentioned getting calls/texts.
OP, please explain comments about lagfix
What does "lagfix" do? Are you saying that it causes the battery to be used at a faster rate?
I thought lagfix involved making at least some of your on-phone partitions into ext4 rather than Samsung's format.
Thanks for the clear instructions, it includes a detail that makes a lot of sense, except wouldn't the phone shut itself down gracefully when the battery was gone, saving the battery stats?
This should have gone in another forum by original plan but apparently I don't have permission to post there... I don't know why but I'll post here instead
Hello everyone
My first post on XDA, so let's cut to the chase...
I love ARHD and after trying most other options I've decided to stick with it... The only problem I ever had with it (and most other ROMs) was battery life, ranging from 5 hours minimum with just browsing and maybe a little navigation, which I found very unsatisfying...
I've been having quite some trouble finding out what the problem was, as I'm new to the android os and smartphones in general and googling always gets me to 100s of different problems and solutions most of which don't apply to me...
But there are some general things that I've learned...
I only recently found out about the "deep sleep" state, and began checking if my device is even capable of going into that... I discovered that it is and it should, but it doesn't...
How to find that out for yourself?
Go into your battery usage screen: Settings - About Phone - Battery - Battery Use and once there, click on the graph at the top and check your "AWAKE" bar... If it's full, continuous, uninterrupted, like mine was, that means that your phone never actually goes into sleep mode... And that is a big difference... As before I learned that, I would charge my phone to 100 percent before going to sleep and 6-8 hours later, I'd find it at 50-60 percent left... I would let the Wi-Fi on, but that was no excuse in my book...even if I turned it off I saw no improvement...
Well, to make a long story a slightly less longer, the culprit was an option I'd never have suspected and that would never cross my mind...
I had my time automatically configured by my network...
Settings - Date and Time - Automatic
As soon as I turned that off, my phone was able to go to sleep and my battery life TRIPLED... Now I'm at the 24 hour mark, with my regular usage...texting, surfing, downloading, watching movies and music when I'm out...
I don't know if this was already posted, it might also depend on your carrier but I found that on some lonely post in some forum nowhere near XDA...
I hope this is useful to someone, I'll be writing a full post on everything I found out that's battery related soon, in another thread...
Posted here for starters as I see many people struggling with battery life here... Also, if anyone has some more tips like that, I'd love to hear them...
Also, depends on your apps, but some of them might be keeping your phone on too... In my case that was IM+ which I use on a regular basis... Just turn off anything you don't need when you're not actually using your phone... Or let it go into push mode Also, don't just kill everything via task killer, that's no solution because if it started once, it'll start again...the problem is in your settings, which should be checked...
Well, I hope some of that made sense... This was the most typing I've ever done on my sensation...
Cheers!
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I found this tip useful, thanks
My Pyramid goes to deep sleep well, but it wakes up every hour for a couple of minutes or something - maybe this will help