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Due to further information from both the hardware and OS side of the house, it has been determined that this process is completely unnecessary for the Captivate.
You may still follow this procedure if you like or if it makes you feel good.
Good luck and God bless.
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So, you are having trouble with your battery seemingly draining too quickly, especially after having flashed many ROMs/Kernels/etc...
It is possible that the problem (or part of the problem) is not necessarily the phone using too much power, but rather the phone not really knowing how much power you have left, or where 100% or 0% really are. If this is the case for you, you should see some results from doing the following:
(Do at your own risk. If your phone runs away and joins the circus I am not responsible)
1. Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until it shows 100%
2. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the battery indicator shows 100% (you can use vol-up/vol-down to make the indicator come back up when the screen goes to sleep).
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
5. Use the phone as normal until it shuts off, then plug it in, turn it on and use as normal, charging whenever you like.
You should only need to use this sequence one time.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for posting this, I remembered seeing it in another topic but I couldnt find it anywhere.
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Thanks for posting this, I remembered seeing it in another topic but I couldnt find it anywhere.
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Yeah, I had it in a text file on my computer from a little while back, and was going to bump the topic but I couldn't find it anymore.
This may have to be done again after ROMs and stuff, so either bookmark this post, or copy-paste it into a document on your computer you can refer back to later.
Also, this give creedence to the age-old, often-debated theory that you should give your battery a full charge before turning on your phone for the first time...
It makes me sick when we have to do all this crap.
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It makes me sick when we have to do all this crap.
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Sorry, it's a price we pay for messing with the software/firmware on the phone.
Also, if people did an actual full charge before using their phone for the first time, there would probably be fewer "Battery Life Sucks" threads...
Dont forget to boot into recovery after you full charged (adb reboot recovery or Power off the phone and then hold the volume up + Volume down + the power key. When it goes black the 2nd time release the power button and keep holding the volume buttons.) wipe stats Clockworkmod recovery -> advanced -> wipe battery stats.
Question for ya's.when I got this phone the att dude just turned it on and gave it to me without allowing for a full charge.should I go back slap him in the face and get a new battery and fully charge it before first use, cause its almost been two weeks and my batt life still seems kinda poor to me.
Also if I do that should I unroot and restore the att apps or will they not notice or bother to check that
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Recalibrating may help slightly, but the Captivate just has a ****ty battery life. Read here, it was the worst in the entire test. No coincidence, the S-AMOLED's came in last in battery life and the S-LCD's came in first.
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/08/android-phones-battery-tests-are-in-and-we-have-a-winner.html
derek4484 said:
Recalibrating may help slightly, but the Captivate just has a ****ty battery life. Read here, it was the worst in the entire test. No coincidence, the S-AMOLED's came in last in battery life and the S-LCD's came in first.
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/08/android-phones-battery-tests-are-in-and-we-have-a-winner.html
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Without any details of how that test was performed, the results are meaningless.
I get battery life as good as my old iphone with the captivate. I wish it was better but it seems very competitive to me.
derek4484 said:
Recalibrating may help slightly, but the Captivate just has a ****ty battery life. Read here, it was the worst in the entire test. No coincidence, the S-AMOLED's came in last in battery life and the S-LCD's came in first.
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/08/android-phones-battery-tests-are-in-and-we-have-a-winner.html
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Something doesn't make sense since the Epic 4G has better battery life than the Captivate. Me thinks they didn't test these properly.
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Without any details of how that test was performed, the results are meaningless.
I get battery life as good as my old iphone with the captivate. I wish it was better but it seems very competitive to me.
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I can't even come close to the same battery life on this captivate as I did with my old iphone. I have to charge this phone every single night, where with my iphone I only had to charge it 2 or 3 times per week. I take it off charge every morning and by 10pm its down to around 20%. My old iphone I could go 2-3 days, and I do the same things on both phones. Checking facebook and twitter, playing a little bit of kingdoms live, a little websurfing, and checking emails, as they come in.
Same usage and 1/2 to 1/3 of the same battery life. Not so good.
Also, you cant say the test was meaningless because they dont tell you how they tested it. As long as they ran the same test on all the phones then a direct comparison of battery life is very legitimate and meaningful. But I agree, I would like to know what their testing methods are.
derek4484 said:
I can't even come close to the same battery life on this captivate as I did with my old iphone. I have to charge this phone every single night, where with my iphone I only had to charge it 2 or 3 times per week. I take it off charge every morning and by 10pm its down to around 20%. My old iphone I could go 2-3 days, and I do the same things on both phones. Checking facebook and twitter, playing a little bit of kingdoms live, a little websurfing, and checking emails, as they come in.
Same usage and 1/2 to 1/3 of the same battery life. Not so good.
Also, you cant say the test was meaningless because they dont tell you how they tested it. As long as they ran the same test on all the phones then a direct comparison of battery life is very legitimate and meaningful. But I agree, I would like to know what their testing methods are.
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By old iPhone, do you mean 1st gen EDGE only iPhone? If that's the case, you can disable 3G on Captivate and get similar battery life.
k2snowboards88 said:
Without any details of how that test was performed, the results are meaningless.
I get battery life as good as my old iphone with the captivate. I wish it was better but it seems very competitive to me.
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If you go to the actual Laptop magazine post it explains
The test itself is fairly simple. Avram, our tireless Web director, modified the LAPTOP Battery Test we use for notebooks, and created an Android App that does much the same thing: It opens the phone’s Web browser to one of 60 popular Web sites, remains there for 60 seconds, closes the browser, then reopens the browser to next Web site on the list. It does so until the phone’s battery dies, all while recording the time elapsed.
Here’s how we set up the phones before we tested them:
First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/android-battery-test-reveals-droid-x-lasts-longest-amoled-handsets-trail
Sounds about right to me although I dont think I could get 4.43 hours web. Most screen usaged I have gotten is up in the 3hour range.
I've done this on my captivate.. and I think it made it a little worse..
to be honest.. just leave it be and charge when you can.. lol hope for the best!
maybe other people will have better luck..
Many people also seem to have success with fully discharging their battery before charging it again for the first 2-3 times. Seems the battery learns its 'boundaries'. Many are reporting 20-30 hours after that with moderate usage.
mterrence5 said:
If you go to the actual Laptop magazine post it explains
The test itself is fairly simple. Avram, our tireless Web director, modified the LAPTOP Battery Test we use for notebooks, and created an Android App that does much the same thing: It opens the phone’s Web browser to one of 60 popular Web sites, remains there for 60 seconds, closes the browser, then reopens the browser to next Web site on the list. It does so until the phone’s battery dies, all while recording the time elapsed.
Here’s how we set up the phones before we tested them:
First, we download My Settings and Advanced Task Killer, two free apps that are useful regardless.
Then, we open My Settings, and do the following:
Turn screen brightness to 40%, and turn off auto brightness.
Turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS location, cell location, and auto sync.
Deactivate screen timeout; that is, make sure the screen stays on indefinitely.
In the Web browser, we turn off Flash support and plug-ins.
We placed the phone in an area that was receiving at least 4 bars of service.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/android-battery-test-reveals-droid-x-lasts-longest-amoled-handsets-trail
Sounds about right to me although I dont think I could get 4.43 hours web. Most screen usaged I have gotten is up in the 3hour range.
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I think that turning all of the screens to 40% brightness invalidates the results. To equal the playing field, the screens should be set to equal luminance.
My battery meter has been flashing 0 for 10 minutes now. Should I be worried? Should I return my phone? True story.
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Still here. Battery hasn't died.
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Hi,
I've got an HTC One S since a few weeks (got it with the 1.57 FW I think). It's a stock one, not from a carrier. No branding.
The battery life was great, 2 to 3 days with normal use.
But yesterday evening I proceeded to the OTA update and since then, trouble began
Battery life is much, much lower. After 12 hours standing on my desk in the office, I got 10% remaining!
Anytime I switch the screen ON, I see there is some data being sent (or received) because the "arrows" are full. If I check in system panel lite, there's always 1 or 2 kb/s of traffic.
Also, the phone is a bit warm, quite often.
Has anyone else noticed this? That's rather annoying :/
Could be faulty? I have the same phone with no carrier or branding and not had any problems at all.
Like faulty hardware? Seems unlikely to me since it worked well with 1.57. Also, sending data isn't hardware related
Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/
Try an app called Badass Battery monitor. It should tell you what's eating your battery.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
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I have to say, this phone, at least mines, seems to have a pretty bi polar battery. It's got a case of ADHD.
For example, just the other day, I had the phone fully charged when I awoke at 9am, after playing Temple Run, surfing the web, using GPS, streaming and listening to music, playing more Temple Run, fiddling around with the OS, checking emails, sending texts, talking on the phone a bit, downloading apps, with about 25-30% brightness, I ended up with 18% battery remaining after a good 11 hours of very heavy use. I was quite pleased, considering the inordinate amount of usage I had with the phone all day.
(BTW, I use Juice Defender, which has helped tons in reducing battery drainage for almost every phone I've owned in the past 3 months, including the One S)
Yesterday, I had the phone charged at 100% when I awoke at 9am, with a little bit of use, by 12am, I had 63% remaining, same brightness, but with much much less use then the day prior. By the time 3pm hit, I was at about 30%, and by 5pm, it was drained to 18%, mostly on standby. By my estimation, that's 8 hours of usage, same brightness levels as the day before, using Juice Defender, but with much much less fiddling around with pretty much everything on the device.
I went ahead and disabled Juice Defender today to see if it would make a difference, and the battery actually got a bit worse, so I went ahead and re-enabled it and it immediately improved.
So I'm a bit perplexed, I haven't gotten any official updates, still running on the original stock build, but ultimately, I guess this is what is too be expected with an early build. Hopefully future updates WILL fix these issues and not hinder them more. Granted it's still much better then my HTC Amaze and Galaxy Nexus, which drained 4% the moment I took them off charger.
Thanks for your input, I'll check again today how the phone goes.
I played with all the settings and menus yesterday, and found something strange. In the "downloads" app, there was a "system update" download. That's quite normal since I downloaded and applied the OTA the day before. But it was referred as "ongoing", like it was still downloading a part of the OTA zip file AFTER I applied it (and rebooted a couple of times)
In phone settings, about, updates, it was also written "ongoing"
Now this is over (I don't know why and how) and the network usage seems back to normal. I'll try today to see how the battery drain is
Anyway, it's s strange the phone was still downloading the update zip file after having applied it. AND that it was downloading it on the 3G at a very lowered bitrate (like background) while I downloaded it on the wifi the day before
Anyway...
The battery life of my One S seems to have declined as well since the update. Before the update my battery lasted 2 days easily with moderate usage. Now I have 20-30% left at the end of the day from a full charge since 9am. This is with very light usage (mostly on standby from 9 to 5).
I did turn on best wifi performance recently so I just to turned that off to see if it helps but I really doubt that.
Hello guys, I have same problem, but my phone wasting energy on "phone radio" process, just look at screens below. I tried using stock Rom with last update, trickdroid, and now it happend on leedroid v.2 . Btw I changed 4 micro sim cards with several providers, but no result. I really need help with this issue, because my battery draining very very
fast...
Thank you
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I had a similar problem a few days ago, using Lee´s ROM.
I noticed that the drain had something to do with autosync. As soon as I turned off autosync (leaving mobile internet on) drainage went back to normal.
I still don´t know what caused this since I only had the google account, weather and dropbox installed.
Anyway, after doing a fresh install, the problems seem to have gone.
Of course I can´t be completely certain of it until some more days of testing/usage.
I also noticed quite a few problems since the latest OTA update.
Not only does the battery drain fast, the phone also feels extremely hot when browsing on 3G.
The phone does cool down pretty quickly when turning off 3G but it feels like I burned my hands
Here are a few screenshots.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-46-08.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-51-52.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-59-10.png
I also experienced weird things when connected to EDGE (2.75G).
3G (HSPA) coverage on BASE (KPN) sucks in Belgium
Look at the video below for more details.
Has anyone else experienced this yet?
http://youtu.be/3g8FLpWDAYM
I also contacted HTC about this issue and they recommended a hard reset.
Unfortunately this doesn't help at all, I still get these weird glitches
mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.
keinengel said:
mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.
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Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.
Bricolo_fr said:
Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/
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I just fixed someone else phone that had the exact same symptoms. In the end I narrowed down the problem to one of his weather apps.
He had a live wallpaper that reflected the current weather, weather on his lock screen and a beautiful widgets weather thing. I never did figure out exactly which one it was I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
I don't know if it's something "weather" related for you but it maybe it will help.
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Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.
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you don't need root, just enable usb debugging in development options and connect the phone to your pc. You need to have the android sdk installed.
Sup guys , some of you don't seem to realize that there are many reasons why your battery drains, what you might think is, "quickly". A few tips to keep minimal battery out put...1 keep brightness down, the screen itself sucks juice probably the most. 2 check your apps, some apps send and receive data and/or are kept running in the background. You might have to enable/disable setting on shove apps. 3 widgets, widgets like battery meters, CPU meters, things like this constantly refresh to keep real time info. That also eats up alot of juice . 4 Turn off WiFi or any other thing like that when your not using it. WiFi continually sucks nice. Lastly, invest in some app that will help you close apps. Basically, tweek everything you might think that the os can run without. The less your CPU has to do, the more juce you save.
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[...]I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
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This made me lol hard.
Best advice ever.
But yeah, on the 1.0 version of Leedroid I had quite some drain, too.
When I turned off autosync it went back to normale. I only had my google account, dropbox (with syncing off) and the weather thingy set up and never figured out which one was resposible.
After installing Lee´s 2.0 ROM everything is fine.
I suppose there really is something wrong with the autosync and maybe with the weather stuff in particular.
My problem didn't go away with stopping auto sync, even without it, I had a constant data flow
Anyway, I rebooted the phone twice and the issue was gone.
It happened again a few days later, after the phone did shut down because of low battery. I put it on charger and turned it on, then, I noticed the 3G arrows were always on. After I unplugged it from the charger the battery went down in 10 hours. After a reboot, problem gone...
Since then, nothing...
And please note than when the problem is here, it's media and android os using a lot of data
I have been having one S problems too - I am on my second phone after the first one became reliably unresponsive every time I turned on mobile data. More relevant to this discussion, my battery died shockingly last night. Normally it drains at a few percent an hour when I am not using it (i.e. when asleep!) but I woke this morning to find it totally dead - that is 30% plus gone in 5 hours without it being in use.
I have a Galaxy Note and updated to ICS about a month ago....
Like many of you I also experienced fast battery drain, around 10% or more per hour, without usage. even more when I use it. 5 hours with moderate usage.
I am on unlimited data plan so 4G is always on.
I also tried fully charging the phone before going to bed at 11pm, woke up at 6am and battery already at 20+%, that's when I was sleeping, no use at all.
For a month, I have been charging my phone 2x a day!
I was very frustrated and wanted to go back to GB.
I was researching for weeks for the solution (also, checking for ICS updates almost everyday, waiting to see if Android had found a solution already), no one seemed to have a concrete solution, some suggest resetting, formatting etc.
These were so complicated for me I didn't even dream of doing them.
3 days ago, I accidentally switched off my 4G connection.
I didn't realize that the connection was off..
I was happy to see my battery charge was still at 98% after an hour, after 2 hours, light usage 95%.
"What's happening?"
Then I saw that my 4G was off.
Now, I was thinking 4G connection was the culprit... but I wanted to explore more and see if there was an app that could be causing this....
I checked my apps that used data and nothing was on, then I checked my sync settings, This is where I found out that I had so many accounts that had SYNC ON! Twitter, facebook, gmail, samsung e-mail etc.
So, I tried an experiment.... I stopped SYNCING everything.
It worked!
For one day, maybe 12hrs. (light usage with 4G connection on, just light usage, I checked my gmail by using the refresh button) 75% left on the battery!!! Wow!!
Then I thought "come on...gmail and android? Same owner/company right? I'm going to try to turn ON the GMAIL SYNC, I'm sure there won't be a problem"
I was right!!!
Now on my second day with 4G connection ON, Sync Gmail ON, medium usage, maybe 20-30min of phone calls, 30 or more texts, email and around 10 minutes of internet surfing.
9 hours unplugged and battery only at 70%!!!
I am very happy!
Oh, last night, I think only about 8-10% of battery was used (6 or 7 hours of sleep only 8-10% used....) nice!
For those who have not tried it yet... please try it... I hope it also works for you.
I just wanted to share my experience and hopefully help others that are, i'm sure, also already so frustrated with ICS.
I apologize for the long post.
Cheers!
so in other words disabling sync for apps that use networks poorly, over a high power useage radio.
its not really a solution, more of avoiding the problem . I know sync falls under android os in the data usage. which means to disable its bg data disables it all, so the real solution is to apply bg data restrictions to sync list as well to cover all ways of data access.
evidence of this is that Facebook ignores bg data restrictions( no big surprise there)
I think there is something wrong with my twitter app?
maybe I changed my password in my home page but did not change it in my twitter app and the app kept on trying and trying to log in but can't, maybe this caused the fast battery drain?
I didn't check it yet, maybe one of these days, but now, I'm happy... I really don't need to sync twitter all the time anyway.
Guys, check your accounts and sync... let us know what happens.
OLD NEWS.
Try this. My experience is on the AT&T Skyrocket, but from the research I've done both the Skyrocket and Note have the same problem. It's probably your charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26733386&postcount=2412
jrockttu said:
You have CPU Spy, so run this test to rule one thing out:
1) Charge your phone overnight.
2) When you wake up in the morning, pull it from the charger and reset the timers in CPU Spy.
3) Let the phone sit idle for a few minutes with the screen off.
4) Refresh the timers in CPU Spy.
If your phone spent significant time at 384 mhz during that idle time and none in Deep Sleep, it's your charger. If it's deep sleeping, it's not your charger (do you use more than one charger?) To further verify the problem, restart your phone, let it sit idle for a few minutes, and check CPU Spy to see if it went into deep sleep after you restarted.
I have a couple of chargers that cause my phone to never deep sleep after I charge with them. The thing that remedies it is restarting the phone or plugging in to a "working" charger. It's a know issue, there's a dedicated thread in the Note forum where someone pinpoints the issue for the Note.
I researched a lot about battery problems on this phone, so list more specifics (do you always use the same charger, charge to full, apps, widgets, etc) and I'd be glad to help. Also, when you take a screen shot of your battery life like you did, take one of your screen on time as well. Since that's your primary drain, it's a good indicator of how your battery life is. 8 hours of battery life sucks, but it's really good if 4 hours is with the screen on.
EDIT: Here's the link to a VERY informative thread on the issue for the Note: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1519084
And one more EDIT, with a workaround: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1516565
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OLD NEWS.
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And has worked for most Android versions.
wow.
the more stuff you have 'on' on your phone, the more battery it will use. hmmm. Do you leave GPS on when your inside a building also?
I think syncing should not be put on auto. Unless on necessary apps like email. And... email only? Facebook and what not social app, keeping track on website when you want to is prolly sufficient. Unnecessary background data mining will without doubt drain the battery.
I will PM all senior mods here on xda and suggest you for 'Elite Developer'...you deserved it like noone else
This is not development and should not be posted in a development forum.
Moved to general.
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Sure ,but glad it was revisited as it is still a good idea.So old news is still good news.lol
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I was on GB and had amazing battery life!
Just flashed AOKP milestone 6 and I can can't watch
The battery drain.
I've read forums and not much help.
I DL better battery but don't really know how to use.
I tried formatting battery stats.
Any solutions?
I am having the same issue. I am going yo try cMIUI. what are you getting for battery life?
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Are y'all sure it's not just because you're doing lots of stuff with your phone right now, having just flashed a new ROM?
If it's an extreme amount of battery drain, it might be some leftovers from whatever you had last. You could try a factory reset and then see how stock AOKP handles battery drain.
I know I don't get battery life as good as I did with Octane, but a big part of that is because I've been flashing the new AOKP builds every couple of days, so things don't get a chance to settle down. (Granted, battery life still isn't as good as when I just flashed Octane.)
There is tons of things regarding this very issue in the AOKP q & a thread. Please use the search this thread button in that thread. Ive typed a response atleast four times today. And atleast four yesterday and more the day before and the day before that. NOt trying to be a ****, but Im tired of typing and responding. If you cant be bothered to read the thread or search I cant be bothered to respond anymore.
Not sure for sure.
But I get 5-6 hours on full charge with medium use(text. Instagram. Web.)
How can I get exact info?
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
First of I dont have battery issues at all with AOKP I am a User a very grateful user (thx 2 our devs). Just factory reset, after that wipe cache, system, everything except your sd card of course) and the flash your rom. Its really a matter of re-assuring everything is wiped. Also leave your phone alone for awhile I left mine around 2 hrs alone, while the rom settles.
jeffsf said:
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
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Go to the Gremlin Remover dev thread, and try steps 1-3. If you are STILL having exaggerated battery loss, try using gremlin remover it'self. If you still have problems, after making it back to your preferred rom, just put the phone down for a while.
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You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Some of us are getting good-very good battery life, and some of us are not - using the same exact ROM. I don't know what that tells you, but what it tells me is that it *is* likely to be a user issue.
People complain about battery life, but they hardly ever talk about the total time they are using it (including fiddling around with it), what programs they have used or have installed, and how they are restoring after they flash (i.e., if there is a chance they are bringing along bad stuff from a previous incarnation of the phone). More information about these things and - yes - doing tedious things like the process of elimination might be enlightening here.
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I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Ya know when I first came here I said something similar. But Ive kept up with these threads now and I know for a fact battery life issues have been discussed to a point that the devs are ready to pack up and leave. Nobody wants to read or even search. Instead the battery life issues are blamed on the shotty coding of the people building these roms. If you are getting bad battery life it is plain and simple a user error. Unless you can provide logs stating otherwise then just drop it try what is being suggested or go back to stock roms. Install all the apps you need to customize the phone like it is on the ics variants and then report back here. I garandamntee you will have ****ty battery life.
These custom roms have so much stuff added to them that is hard coded in for customization that its not going to have super battery life like a unbloated stock rom. But you cant expect it to. A good comparision was made earlier in another thread. Would you expect to get 8 hours out of a laptop battery?
I always tell people to make sure to completely drain the battery....all the way until it shuts off, because mine will sometimes stay at 1% for nearly 2 hours.
Seems like it doesn't know its own scale until you do that a few times.
Also never ever ever restart this phone while having it plugged in or turn it on while plugged in.
Let me give you the scenario, it will be charging let's say around 50% and then after restart while plugged in right around 75-80% and that little act took me a long time to recalibrate my battery and I'm not talking about deleting the battery stats, I don't delete battery stats anymore at all (read an article from Google saying its pointless)
All that said I'm a very heavy user, and I like a bright screen and I'm getting (what I would consider) good battery life. But I have a 3500mah so its never too bad for me
Hope this helps someone
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well me too experiencing super fast battery drain
i have flashed aokp milestone latest build by wiping factory reset.
also allowed to sit the phone for 1o mins
my wifi,bluetooth,gps remains off all the time, also screen brightness is at its lowest.
on moderate texting the phone wont last more then 4 hours
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I'm on aokp
I'm on AOKP, and my battery life is GREAT. There are plenty of steps and tips mentioned here to find out what your battery problem is.
I would like to see screen shots of the battery usage of people that have crappy battery.
From home hit menu>settings>scroll down a bit to battery.
Take two screenshots one of the initial screen, then touch the graph at the top and take one of that screen.
I keep hearing battery life is horrible I only get 4 hours, please fix this, hows battery life..blah blah blah battery. Yet nobody will drop usage stats, logs of a days use, offer anything but i use my phone moderately. I call bull**** on that, How many texts do you get/send in a day? How long are you on the phone making calls? Do you live in a poor service area? Give some info.
On a average day I get about 50 texts, might make a 20 minute call, use tapatalk a half dozen times, and use tweetcaster and flipboard a dozen times. I can get 12-15 hours out of a full charge. To me that is light to moderate use. I get crappy data where Im at right now so Im on wifi A LOT. When Im actually using t-mo data more I can get closer to 18 hours out of a charge
People if your having problems with battery life stop rebooting the phone a hundred times a day. Stop shutting off all the radios thinking it will help. use the dang phone like it was meant to be used. None of the code is optimized for people to shut radios off and turn the phone into a dumbphone. You are making it worse by shutting these things down and turning them back on. It takes power to properly shut off bt, wifi, data. Next time you do watch the radio will not just instantly shut down. It has to power off all the service that is using it and then power down. Otherwise you would be here *****ing about tons of force closes.
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
blazen2000 said:
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
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^ THIS
I usually get 14-17 hrs doing the same. No battery issues. If you leave data/wifi on all day and are constantly checking email, Twitter, and Facebook what do you expect? Battery is fine.
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How much time do you spend on "screen"?
My phone usually drains 10% each 5hours of sleeping (air plane mode). Is that normal? I can get around 3hours of web surfing,which is less than it was on SCOM (4hours).
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Close to a day of battery , I turn on data when I want. Poor service area, my only issue is it stays awake more, but all functions work
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Ok guys I have prbassplayer's blessing on this thread and he feels it may work so lets keep this civil and make it a helpful and definitive thread to help any and all users get better battery life. From here on this will be the only thread on battery life all others in q&a and general will be reported and hopefully closed. it is open to people in the skyrocket section on any rom and kernel combo. There are rules and standards that any who wish for help on this thread.
Rules
All requests for help must be in this format as this will help in speedy and decent recommendations.
1.Rom & Kernel Combo
2.How long you have been on said combo ex. 3 days and number of cycles will help considerably too.
3.Screenshots
1.Battery Graph
2.Screen on time
3.Better Battery Stats info (If applicable but not required).
4.general usage info as in how do you use your phone give us details into what you do through the day.
You can not suggest another rom.
this thread will not be turned into a best rom thread it is to help others get the most out of their current setups you may suggest other kernels but if you suggest another rom i will report your post and it will be removed.
My hope is that this will cut down on tons of threads and give everyone a good place to get help please guys lets make this section awesome like it used to be.
I think u should also ad to the op (nrm ) a few simple guidelines or places/things they can go and independently research. Not spoon feeding mind u, just a starting point. here are a few examples that come to mind:
1) Underclocking/governors
2) Undervolting
3) Wakelocks (pre-established thread anyone?)
4) Droidwall/background data usage & sync
5) CPU Sleeper & alternatives
6) Auto brightness controls (cm9, lux, etc...)
7) Wifi as alternative
8) H+ instead of LTE
9) Modem/radio choice
10) Sleep/display time outs etc...
And MOST IMPORTANTLY, avoiding apps like Juice Defender
I'll look into adding as we go thanks for the ideas bro
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I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
teeg07 said:
I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
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This isn't to post your good setups it was to help people on their current setups that need help
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Great idea illnevertell! As usual
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Not having bad battery life, but hey, it can always be better right!?!
First off, GREAT thread idea, it's a shame it hasn't really been utilized though. How about I start. I'm wondering a bit about how much battery I can save if I get rid of Google maps. Also, if you have any recommendations of a replacement for it if I do dump it. Even if I don't open the application the entire day, it is consistently in the top stats on my BBS reports. I'm not really sure of the effect it will have if I get rid of it though. I mean, if it is only going to get me another 40-60 minutes per charge, I don't know if it would be worth losing the convenient access to reliable maps.
Anyway, I thought I'd toss this out and see what everyone thinks.
I'm currently running Majicks Orthus One (quite happily I might add) and I've been on it for almost a week now. I generally don't use my phone too much during the weekdays while at work but, once I get home, the screen is generally on until I go to bed. On weekends, which is when I grabbed these screenies and BBS dumb, I am on WIFI most of the day, but I use my phone ALL DAY LONG even though I've got my laptop and rooted Kindle running CM10 sitting right next to me. LOL!
Other than the apps I've added (around 70 total), I've got it set up pretty much as if I just flashed it. By this, I mean that I haven't really done any battery tweaking. It's on badass gov by default, and I am utilizing the bln feature (I know it hates my battery, but I LOVE this feature). I get pretty good life usually (12-16 hours with 3-5 hours of screen on time), and I haven't really seen the media wake locks which are affecting others. Also, and I know I'm asking a ton (and maybe even being a bit of a battery miser considering I'm already getting decent time on my charges), but do you see anything else that should be a cause of alarm to me? Everything looks minuscule to me compared to Maps, but I know that there are many people who know much more than me when it comes to this stuff. So all thoughts are welcome.Without further adeau, here are some of my screen shots and BBS dump...
Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Great idea. I'll contribute as well.
I'm also on Orthus-One, and whatever kernel comes with. One change I made was to change the governor to Conservative. Not entirely sure what that does, but I thought I'd throw it out.
I've been on this ROM for 28ish hours, so today was day 1. I've rebooted a few times. Can't remember how many.
I don't know that I've done a whole lot to reduce battery usage. Today I was on wifi almost all day, but normally I fluctuate between H+ and LTE (LTE near work, H+ most of the drive home, wifi at home).
Brightness is set at a constant ~35% with auto brightness removed. I don't use my phone for anything other than answering calls in the car, so that suits me.
I don't play any games that would be battery intensive, and only watch videos (from sd) when it's plugged in. Rarely listen to music, but that's likely to change next week on vacation.
These shots were taken about 3 hours ago. There's been another hour and a quarter of screen on time since then. I used my phone a lot today, as you can see.
Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
Since it was mentioned above, this is all on a Standard battery.
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bps119 said:
Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that. If you can do without a location service more often than not, I'd leave it and GPS off. I actually think network location is less useful than GPS--GPS doesn't use *that* much more battery, and it's precise. With network location, if a couple of wifi networks near you have "_nomap" appended to the end of their name, you're lost.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast. Personally, I don't think any of the "anti-virus" apps are worth the time it takes to download them. They sit there eating up battery, when really all you need to make sure your phone doesn't pick up a virus or malware is common sense. Only install apps from Play, Amazon and XDA (third-party markets will often put bootloaders and other bad stuff in their apps), don't click anything on shady-looking websites, and leave USB debugging off unless you need it.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook. It used a ton of network data for apparently only being active 28s (according to the PWL data). Do you have it set to use push notifications or refresh on a short schedule?
liquidzoo said:
Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
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Not a coincidence at all. "Naked" phones run cooler than phones in a case. Shouldn't be by a ton (if it is, get a new case), but a case, naturally, restricts airflow, which allows more heat to build up. I had to stop using my Otterbox Defender for that reason--the phone was just getting too hot inside the case, and I was starting to be concerned.
T.J. Bender said:
That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook.
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Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location. I was using it cause the wife is a bit of a worry wart and she heard a story from a friend that their husband was in a motorcycle accident not involving another car and wasn't found for about 12 hours cause he fell into a ditch off a country road. Now, she thinks that if one of us ever get into an accident, that latitude is going to save us. Lol! I get the theory behind it, but her iphone only updates it sporadically anyway so it's not really worth much. I unchecked all location services, and I'll just turn on gps when I need it and see how that treats me.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
BLN is a power monger, but I love being able to have that option so I deal with it.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
I appreciate you looking into this for me as you are pretty much the battery guru around here. I was a bit worried that no one was looking at this thread cause it wasn't really being utilized. I don't understand why, when everyone wants to open a thread for battery life, they don't seem to want to utilize the one sanctioned by our mod. But that seems to just be xda in general lately.
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bps119 said:
Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location.
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If you're willing to, freeze/uninstall Maps and use MapQuest and/or OSMAnd instead. Both eat up far less battery, and MapQuest has basically all the same features. I use Waze as well, but that's more for speed trap notifications than anything else.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
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Just an FYI, you can have the Avast theft protection app (the one they tell you to give a custom name to) on your phone without the full Avast suite. Eats up almost no battery, and can be set to wipe upon X number of failed attempts to sign in.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
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Friendcaster and Tweetcaster have both had great results for me. The Twitter app's biggest sin is a stray alarm that'll hold you awake for 10-15 seconds every so often. The Facebook app, though, is (I can only assume) downloading ad data and sending usage info back at set intervals, even if you have it set to refresh every X hours. I caught on when I had it set to never auto-update, but saw that it was still using mobile data.
As far as mobile protection I don't use antivirus but I have Cerberus for tracking wiping and the like
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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Please attach screenshots like stated in the rules there is a reason I placed the requirement there
Also posting about how you use your phone is a rule
All you did was throw a DL at us and say fix it we do this for free to help the least you can do is follow every rule stated in op
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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First problem is you're using juice defender. Imo, that app does more harm than good on ics. It also looks like the gtalk app is waking you up way to much. If you don't use it, I'd say to delete it or, at the very least, log out of it when you aren't using it. Maps, like with my last setup, is killing you. I'd recommend following tj benders advice to me and either freeze it, or delete it all together and try one of his suggestions for a replacement.
Also, we're you charging at any point during that cycle, running at 384 for over 3 hours suggests to me that you had either charged for a while, or ya got an app going crazy. That is, unless your screen on time correlation is similar. Without the screen shots Illnevertell asked for, I can't really tell much more.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. Don't let your pants get wet and use that search button.
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FYI, if you zip your dump, I will not look at it.
AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
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My apologies for not having followed thread rules on my prior post. I had just come from another battery thread that actually wanted BBS in zip form as the only post.
My prior BBS dump showed that my culprit wakelock was Suspend_Backoff. Searching I found the following thread:
productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/rT0ewNsBx18/0_RqLGBQr70J
I unchecked "Enable Tilt Scrolling" in Google Chrome settings and recharged my battery to 100%.
I then left it on idle all night just like it had been when I generated the last BBS file dump.
As you can see the results are drastically improved. Went from losing 65% of battery in 5 1/2 hours to losing 25% in 9 hours. Also went from 5% deep sleep to 94%!
Still not pefect but definitely a significant improvement. Thanks for the great thread!
Spectre one thing is network location I would turn that off until you need it also that giant cliff dropoff I'm assuming was a reboot of sorts that went uncaught I know that for me I don't get reboots on jb I go to recovery and clear my caches first thing then I make sure to close every app as I'm done using it as far as bbs I'll leave that to tj as he is a wakelock god at this point lol
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AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
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Google Maps, basically, is the answer. It's polling NetworkLocationLocator pretty constantly. If you turn location services off, you'll help yourself tremendously. I still recommend uninstalling Maps (usual disclaimer about uninstalling system processes) and using an alternate app like Mapquest, OSMAnd and/or Waze to clean up all of those Maps-generated alarms.
Beyond that, HD Widgets is definitely keeping you awake some, so you might want to change the refresh time on that. That being said, I can't imagine HD Widgets is doing too much damage to your battery life or people wouldn't use it.
Post up another BBS dump if you get a chance. Also, BBS dumps are a great way to tell if you've randomly rebooted (which, yeah, can chew through a ton of battery) because they'll differ from the "up-time" shown by your battery screen. Also, if you set your phone down at 9:00 PM and wake up at 7:00 AM, but your BBS dump says it's only been five hours since boot, you know you've got some random rebooting going on.