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Simple (and probably dumb) rooting question

I am quite the newb when it comes to android and rooting period, if I already rooted my phone with a simple oneclick root, and want to use a new oneclick root, one with clockworkmod as part of it, can I just reroot by following the oneclick steps or do I need unroot first?
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sirens6 said:
I am quite the newb when it comes to android and rooting period, if I already rooted my phone with a simple oneclick root, and want to use a new oneclick root, one with clockworkmod as part of it, can I just reroot by following the oneclick steps or do I need unroot first?
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Well if you already have CWM installed then you shouldn't need to use the new version of the one-click-root method. All this does is simplify the actions even further by doing both tasks at once. If you do want to, for some reason, use the newest root method then I would suggest unrooting first just in case any errors occur with files already existing etc. Hope this helps!

Technically you shouldn't need to do an uninstall, but it doesn't hurt either...

I have rom manager but I don't think I have cwm. Everytime I test it by rebooting I get an error message and the options are still blue unlike the green options that I have seen if cwm is working. Is there some way to just install or flah or whatever it is cwm? If so, where do I get it and how do I do it? Thanks
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Rom manager won't work unless you have a kernel that supports it. I'm assuming that if you are rooting then it is the stock kernel and rom manager install won't work. You can install right over it if you want. Honestly the simplest way for me to do this was z4root from market and then clockworkmod recovery one click. Not the all in one. The try this last.bat seems to be less prone to failure. And if it is giving you trouble I might suggest that you install the usb drivers on another computer and run cwm rec from a thumb drive.
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What... the easiest way is to download noobnl one click zip and the drivers.
Install the drivers (exe). Restart the pc and the phone. Plug in the phone and let it install the phone. As long as it installs adb driver you'll be fine. Extract and open the one click and start the .exe in there. A black window opens, press enter and it should go to town. If you hit enter and it pauses. Just restart the pc again and unplug the phone. Open the one click .exe again, plug the phone in and hit enter. It will go.
Phone restarts and your good to go with clockwork.
5 roots, 5 different computers. Perfect every time. Noobnl has made this cake.
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I used the noobnl oneclickexploit when i rooted my phone, i have not flashed any roms or kernels that i know of, please hold my hand and walk me through the process of what i should do to get clockworkmod flashed, should i follow the steps listed above or do i have to do something more?

Honestly, I prefer using the all-in-one batch file.
Install your drivers (if you haven't already)
Turn on debugging mode on your phone
Extract the .zip from the link above somewhere on your pc.
Plug phone into computer and let it recognize.
Run run.bat from the .zip you downloaded.
Press 1 to reroot. It will remove previous roots. Say yes when it asks, andlet it do its thing.
Press 3 to install CWM, say yes, let it do its thing.
And that's it. I've had some phones hang the first time rooting, but after restarting the phone it usually works. Also, keeping the screen alive seems to help. Always give it a few minutes to do its thing, but if it hangs, restart the phone and try again. It may help to restart the computer. I've seen one computer with buggy drivers that refused to do this or odin, but I have successfully done it with both my laptop and my work computer without too much trouble.

Press 1 and 3 on what, my phone or my computer?
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on computer. when you run it, it'll be a command prompt and you can just follow the instructions on it.

Ok, I understand all those steps, thank you. Next question, is there a place where I can find clockworkmod by itself, if so where, and how do I install?
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[Q] Rom/kernel installing

Just rooted my captivate which was recently upgraded to Froyo through the official Att release. I'm an exteme rookie when it comes to all this, so I'm looking for some help. I want to install a new rom/kernel. Done some research and I'm thinking of trying Cog4. As I said, I'm rooted, I have titanium backup and rom manager. I'm using one click lag fix, which from my research, everyone says is useless, and that voodoo is the way to go. So the question is, where can I get step by step instructions on the easiest way to load the new rom. Can anyone suggest a better rom? What ever your answer is, remember to dumb it down. I'm a chef not a computer guy. Much thanks for the help. I'm loving learning about all this.

Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
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wonner said:
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
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Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!

I did my first rom flash last week and chose Firefly due to reliability and smoothness. I read all of the threads about each of the roms for several months and read how people liked them plus features each offered. It will really come down to what you want/need in a rom. Besides using xda, I googled flashing roms for captivate and found many videos, etc. that helped guide me along the way. I watched countless hours to make sure I understood not only one way but many to install a rom. Just remember, save your data before you do anything else. Use titanium backup. It is great. Don't assume everything will go okay.
If you are running 2.2 Froyo stock you probably will have to understand how 3E works. If you don't know what this is, search for it on these forums! You have to change this setting before flashing a rom. Good luck!

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Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!
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I meant to say UNINSTALLING, not install ext2 tools. Sorry for goof.

froyo has 3e recovery.... ugh... again with this today... good thing i bookmarked it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
you researched OCLF and other stuff correctly so ill help you.
from stock
root / ( & allow non-market apps via oneClickRoot 1.8 if you need to sideload tibu or rootexplorer.)
fix 3e recovery (root explorer method best)
no OCLF.
tibu backup user apps and green system files (green ones ok between different roms)
copy your new rom.zip to sdcard root renamed UPDATE.zip
boot into stock recovery > reinstall package!
tibu restore all
done!
your new rom will have a kernel with CWM built in. no need for rom manager or the CWM update.zip just to flash the rom. rom zips now do a wipe as well.

If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?

I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.

studacris said:
If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?
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If you guys boycott, I will add in some posts then so I can get my count up!

megatronisabeast said:
I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.
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congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.

Here is the method I used to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
It didn't require a fix for 3E since I wasn't flashing a rom but it was painless. I did a lot of research and found the way I thought would be easiest for me to root and flash a rom. The great thing is there are many ways to do it so you really have to not be looking to get one that doesn't work.
Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Kinda the same idea here , but I use kernel flasher (i know some say it's a bad thing, but I've never had a problem that wasn't because of my own stupidity).

The only reason I don't use Root explorer or other ones like it is because I only have one phone and can't afford to really mess something up. I play around with Linux on some of my computers but I have more than one and the one I practice code on is a play computer. I think it is good to learn at least some of the coding but for an inexperienced flasher they should either wait until they learn code then flash or use an easier method if they are dead set on rooting and romming their phone.

stuck in reboot cycle after stupid move

Hi guys,
First of all I want to apologize with everybody here but I need help and I know that I might be drowning in a cup of water but right now I feel very frustrated because I can't find the answer to this...
ok, now I have a T-Mobile G2X, I was reading how to root, do backup, recovery, etc, and I was doing some research of how to go back to stock with all the t-mobile apps, so I went to a thread that was explaining that he had to use first clockworkmod before doing anything, so what I did was just plug my phone, activated the debug mode and click on a script file from the new version 4.x of clockworkmod, after that it messed up the phone started to force close apps, so I turned it off and back on, my surprise.... cycle reboot
now I cannot do anything with it, if I press the vol down button with the power it goes to a screen that says S/W upgrade Please wait while upgrading, I left it there hoping that it will come up soon
Can you guys help me??, I'm very frustrated
Thank you.

What had you actually done to your phone prior to clicking on the script? Had you already rooted it?

it was not rooted, i think that's why this happened, but i thought that wasnt needed since i was trying to do a backup BEFORE doing anything, ha stupid me

Did you try to do a factory reset by holding down the volume down and power button?
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^ What tq745 said.

And then follow this guide word for word if you want to root/flash roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715

I tried the factory reset and came a different screen but what I needed to do is to hold down the buttons for more time, now at least it boots
I still want to try the rooting, so let me have this clear, rooting the device doesn't delete any apps or config right? this is until you start messing with the roms and that.
thanks for the help guys!

yes rooting does not delete apps u do that yourself lol. it gives u superuser access, the ability to remove bloatware or freeze them (tmobiles apps) you can change the fonts, super cid, the ability to have another carrier on your phone if wanted, install custom roms and kernels, tether, and backup apps with titanium backup, which i suggest if u do root, awesome app and tool . basically u cant do this with a stock unrooted device.....also our super one click root is pretty simple just one click after u have lg's drivers installed, and its just as easy to unroot if u had too (like bringing it back to tmobile, warranty exchange).... to unroot its the same program just click on it and u will see unroot too.....pretty effin awesome...

wow now I understand it more, thanks for the explanation friend.
I'm following the tutorial that phburks posted, in there is the backup process, I hope everything goes perfect (fingers crossed)
thanks again!

The "script" was probably that NVFlash app that was created. Being improperly NVFlashed is why its stuck.
You need to remove the battery, hold both volume keys down while inserting the USB cable. Then follow the steps of NVFlashing.
Once you NVFlash and have a good clockworkmod setup, then you need to reset data, clear caches, and flash a good rom.

[Q] Installing CM7

Okay, so I know there are threads in Development forums about this and also the CM wiki but I just want to clarify the steps as I have seen conflicting instructions.
The CM wiki mentions a weird rooting method that involves you pushing a bunch of files to the device and rooting then installing CWM from ROM Manager.
The CM7 thread here mentions using NVFlash and seems to have fewer steps. So which way is better?
My understanding is this will work and is better cause NVFlash is not fake flashing recovery?
After interpreting all this what I plan to do is:
1. Install drivers for NVFlash and Flash CWM directly on my unrooted G2x
2. Boot into recovery
3. Backup stock ROM
4. Do wipes etc
5. Flash CM7 zip file and Gapps
Can someone see any issues with this? is there a risk of a brick if NVFlash goes wrong? I find it weird that I need to hold the volume rockers the whole time NVFlash is doing its work and only let go after I pull USB cable, but maybe those instructions aren't very clear and I am a bit afraid.
Also will my above method work with latest LG G2x updates to 2.3.3 or only from Froyo?

You've got it...go for it! It sounds like you plan to use TGA_Gunman's one click recovery flasher app which I highly recommend as it is fairly idiot-proof.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Just follow his instructions in the post. And fwiw, you only need to hold the rockers until the S/W Update screen is displayed on your phone. At that point you can let go, sit back, relax and watch the app push all the recovery files for you. When it's done, just pull the usb, put the battery in and boot into CWM
EDIT: One click recovery works with the 2.3.3 update, SUPER ONE CLICK (which is only for root access anyhow) DOES NOT

There's nothing to be worried about! I haven't seen any threads on people bricking their phones with nVflash!

[Q] Unroot / return to stock without using power button.

So my girlfriend's Verizon Galaxy S III is in quite the jam. The power button stopped working. She has to use a software button to turn the screen off and the home key to turn it back on.
Verizon sent over a replacement, but she needs to send the original phone in. Problem is, the normal methods for returning to stock all involve Odin, which requires the phone to enter Download mode....which we can't do. The phone won't register the power button being held down. I don't even want to turn it off since I'm not sure it could be turned back on.
So I've been googling around for another way (already having used Triangle Away) and found a couple of sets of instructions (here and here) on using Odin Mobile to flash the phone back to stock. But there seem to be a lot of comments around, especially on the YouTube video guides, of people saying it bricked their phone.
What's the safest bet here? As far as I can tell these are the options:
-Shut down the phone and pray the power button somehow works for getting into download mode (doubtful) so I can use Odin.
-Restore a nandroid / flash a zip of the stock ROM and then use EZ Root or whatever to unroot the phone and hope Verizon doesn't look into it.
-Use one of these sets of instructions for Mobile Odin...though it's not clear which one is best and what files I should be using.
-Just send it in and pray.
Odin Mobile seems like the smartest option...but the instructions out there aren't as comprehensive and up to date as I'd like. I'd rather not brick the phone.
Can anyone help? The phone is currently on AOKP 4.2 Milestone.
I originally accidentally posted this in the international forum. A poster there advised that I use Odin Mobile. What files should I use to move safely back to stock? I've never flashed back to stock before so I'm not familiar with the best source or if there's a specific version I need.
Thanks!

If all you need to do is get into download mode, you could probably force it with a usb jig. Then you can use ODIN on a pc and restore it that way. I have no idea how to use mobile odin, but I assume it shouldn't be that difficult to do a similar process. People make mistakes by not reading correctly and moving too fast through a process.
You could try to reboot, then while the phone is booting back up hold volume down + home to get to download mode. Just be ready to flash the phone, if your power button is broken you're only going to have 1 shot to do it and no way to verify it worked.
Did you happen to make a nandroid of your stock rooted rom? If so, you could just restore that and unroot it.
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I did create a back-up. Would restoring back-up -> using triangle away -> ez unlock to re lock bootloader -> unroot be just as good as using Odin?
What's the best tool for unrooting? I rooted it for her almost a year ago so I don't remember. I have a Galaxy Nexus myself.
Thanks!

You can always unroot from a superuser app from within the rom itself. On a stock rom you would simply relock with ez unlock, unroot with superuser app, then phone would be pretty much stock.
All triangle away does is erase the flash counter, you only had to do that once. It won't be tripped unless you flashed something over odin.
I think your best bet is to restore that backup, then accept an OTA update after unrooting and relocking the bootloader. That will overwrite your recovery partition and make sure you're back to full stock. Is your stock backup touchwiz 4.0.4 or 4.1.1? It won't work with a 4.1.2 backup.
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