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seriously ive been wondering about this for a while now, and im just wondering which is truly better. HSPA+ or LTe? post speedtest pictures please...
Starseed said:
Idk... Look it up online.
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There are plenty of quotes on the boards, search is your friend.
It varies vastly by region. LTE is semi-consistent at 30Mbps+. HSPA+ can be anywhere from 1Mbps to 11Mbps. If LTE is available its the fastest connection available. But, its on limited markets on att.
Right now, lte is faster than hspa+ by around 10mbps (of course this can vary greatly). The difference is that lte is has much more potential. So in time, it's better to have an lte phone. But right now they are fairly comparable
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
Starseed said:
I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Another thing on LTE, if you are on the old unlimited plan tons of people are getting throttled down to near zero, sometimes at less than 2 GB. So all that speed is wasted, and anyone that knows enough to know they want the extra speed will probably not get to use it for long.
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quarlow said:
Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Actually the skyrocket has an amazing dev community..mostly because of the fact that it can use the ROM's and Kernels of the T-mobile SGSII. And there is talk that it may be pentaband...the Radio's are interchangable as well.
Well this is interesting. How much are your guys speeds, and how much is your skyrocket if you have one?
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update? This suppose to be their best phone as of now.
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citrix80 said:
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
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LTE & HSPDA+ are both classified as '4G' but are different, incompatible systems.
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azumis said:
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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so HSPDA+ and LTE has different network? LTE phones cannot receive HSPDA+ networks?
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Crashdamage said:
Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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what is HSTPS+ ? news says t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...r-LTE-leaves-82Mbps-HSPA-plans-behind_id27474
citrix80 said:
what is HSTPS+ ?
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A typo.
t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
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Present HSPDA+ phones will not work with LTE. I suppose some future phones may be capable of HSPDA+ and LTE. But my next phone will be HSPDA+. It will be around a long time, it's pretty fast and uses less battery power anyway.
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Hey guys, i got a korean galaxy s3 LTE and im trying to figure out how i can get this to work with verizon LTE and if it would even work at all. I added APN settings for verizon but it just stays on No Service or Limited Service and doesnt show any bars. Any idea who would know what to do?
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Hey guys, i got a korean galaxy s3 LTE and im trying to figure out how i can get this to work with verizon LTE and if it would even work at all. I added APN settings for verizon but it just stays on No Service or Limited Service and doesnt show any bars. Any idea who would know what to do?
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Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
milan03 said:
Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
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would there be any way to tune it to the 700Mhz?
Sell it
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milan03 said:
Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
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Once Sprint rolls out LTE on 800Mhz, you could.
pwrdbykyank said:
would there be any way to tune it to the 700Mhz?
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Nope. It's permanent.
Sunsparc said:
Once Sprint rolls out LTE on 800Mhz, you could.
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just wait till 2014-2015...
loll, ya if i cant get it to work the id just sell it, by 2014 there will be a bunch more phones out Thanks for the input guys
In short there's no way to get LTE on a korean S3 to work here in the states, you can't change the frequency bands that the phone has if its actually disabled/not included in the hardware, Korean LTE as said is 800/1800 none of the US Carriers use it, and even if Sprint were to rollout 800 today, Sprint doesnt allow foreign ESNs on their network unless ur carrier has a roaming agreement with them...so ya you're best bet is to sell it and get another variant.
We switched from Sprint to AIO. I got the Nexus 5 and the wife got a Moto G. My wife is getting around 2 mbps down at best and it says 3g. I'm concerned it's just normal HSPA and not HSPA+. Is there a way to tell which it's on? For the record, when I turn LTE off on my nexus, I hit the data cap of 3.5-4 mbps on HSPA+.
Settings>About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type
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Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.
Rarscaryfrosty said:
Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.
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.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.
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.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.
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Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.
Rarscaryfrosty said:
Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.
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no worries. There seems to be a ton of confusion out there about this phone and which model to use. Motorola should add a chart or something on their site to clear it all up.
Just checked mine there now hspa+ and downloads of between 3.5 and 5 Mbps in my house ,other days I can get up to 9 Mbps,UK stock ROM rooted on giffgaff network,Posted screenshots of speeds that I get in my bathroom which are usually poor compared to rest of house
I am using the phone on a T-Mobile network. For the APN I have the IPv6 setting, for some reason the icon next to the signal bars is only H+ not LTE. Was wondering if that was just me? If is just me is there a way to get LTE? I know that this phone support LTE.
Thanks.
which model is it? (D68xx..) might not support the LTE bands that T-mobile has
which area are you located in? perhaps your area doesn't have/weak LTE signal
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which model is it? (D68xx..) might not support the LTE bands that T-mobile has
which area are you located in? perhaps your area doesn't have/weak LTE signal
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oh... damn just checked and tmo lte band is 1700 my phone supports 1800/2100.
Well that will be something I remember the next time I buy an unlocked device.
b1969 said:
oh... damn just checked and tmo lte band is 1700 my phone supports 1800/2100.
Well that will be something I remember the next time I buy an unlocked device.
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Indeed. Also of note, Tmo LTE only works on a more recent SIM. I tried a cut down 5 year old SIM and no LTE.
Thanks for the info!
I'll admit that I didn't do proper research prior to buying the unlocked device. After reading more into T-Mobile bands, they said that by the end of this year they will be releasing band 2 which is the 700mhz. Since this model supports that I'm guessing I can get lte?
Please clarify this for me. Thanks.
Has anyone gotten an Exynos S7 to work in the US with any of our carriers?
I'm so desperate for a rooted S7 Edge that I'm ready to change carriers if I have to. :crying:
It probably will work but it won't work well, especially with T-Mobile (no band 12 or VoLTE). Just wait m8
I have been using g930s variant along with g930f kernel + roms in the us tmobile. I live in DC and LTE has been just fine. Maybe i am missing a band but whatever
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I'm using the Exynos S7 on cricket and it works flawlessly. Performance is stellar, battery life is incredible and I get great LTE coverage everywhere.
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How can you confirm that? I got the Exynos international version, with T-Mobile SIM card. I have AIDA64 but not sure where to look to confirm or deny that the LTE Band 12 is not there.
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xDark_ said:
It probably will work but it won't work well, especially with T-Mobile (no band 12 or VoLTE). Just wait m8
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WarAxe said:
Has anyone gotten an Exynos S7 to work in the US with any of our carriers?
I'm so desperate for a rooted S7 Edge that I'm ready to change carriers if I have to. :crying:
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Canadian model is Exynos. Works fine in USA. Can root too as we have unlocked bootloader
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GoyoNeuff said:
How can you confirm that? I got the Exynos international version, with T-Mobile SIM card. I have AIDA64 but not sure where to look to confirm or deny that the LTE Band 12 is not there.
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G.
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T-Mobile has to certify and allow the phone to work on band 12 or else it won't be able to make 911 calls. They've verified the US S7 but I don't think they verified the international version.
Hello there,
Well, I can confirm that LTE Discovery App shows the LTE Band 12 working with T-Mobile. I have walked around the building where I work, and it switches back and forth from Band 4 to Band 12.
Hope this helps someone asking if the Samsung Galaxy Exynos International Version SM-G930F works with T-Mobile LTE Band 12 !
Cheers,
G.
GoyoNeuff said:
Hello there,
Well, I can confirm that LTE Discovery App shows the LTE Band 12 working with T-Mobile. I have walked around the building where I work, and it switches back and forth from Band 4 to Band 12.
Hope this helps someone asking if the Samsung Galaxy Exynos International Version SM-G930F works with T-Mobile LTE Band 12 !
Cheers,
G.
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it's frustrating that others have said recently that band 12 is NOT supported. what about wifi calling?
Hi there !
I belive that WIFI calling and the reduced Internet speed while on a phone call, are the two things that are different on the Exynos. Tell me how to check and make sure WiFi doea not work and I will try for you. I have tested the second one, and indeed the Internet speed is way reduced when talking on phone. Depending where you are, it is either H+ or 3G.
Hope that helps !
Cheers.
G.
radiohead14 said:
it's frustrating that others have said recently that band 12 is NOT supported. what about wifi calling?
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GoyoNeuff said:
Hi there !
I belive that WIFI calling and the reduced Internet speed while on a phone call, are the two things that are different on the Exynos. Tell me how to check and make sure WiFi doea not work and I will try for you. I have tested the second one, and indeed the Internet speed is way reduced when talking on phone. Depending where you are, it is either H+ or 3G.
Hope that helps !
Cheers.
G.
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i believe there should be a setting for wifi calling within the "more connection settings". if it's not showing within the settings, then it's not supported.
as for band 12, how reliable is that app you used? a lot of people have mentioned that band 12 is not supported on the exynos model, so i'm really curious how yours has it.
thanks!
OK, there is no WiFi calling setting under there.
As for how reliable the App is, I have no idea, sorry. I searched and found it was mentioned in XDA for checking this kind of settings/capabilities. I will take a screen capture of it once I am in a building and it is showing the band used. My understanding is that LTE Band 12 is particularly good and improves signal inside buildings.
radiohead14 said:
i believe there should be a setting for wifi calling within the "more connection settings". if it's not showing within the settings, then it's not supported.
as for band 12, how reliable is that app you used? a lot of people have mentioned that band 12 is not supported on the exynos model, so i'm really curious how yours has it.
thanks!
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GoyoNeuff said:
OK, there is no WiFi calling setting under there.
As for how reliable the App is, I have no idea, sorry. I searched and found it was mentioned in XDA for checking this kind of settings/capabilities. I will take a screen capture of it once I am in a building and it is showing the band used. My understanding is that LTE Band 12 is particularly good and improves signal inside buildings.
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ok thanks for checking! yea band 12 is important for me, as i'm in NYC and inside buildings all the time. the extended range would definitely help.
GoyoNeuff said:
Hi there !
I belive that WIFI calling and the reduced Internet speed while on a phone call, are the two things that are different on the Exynos. Tell me how to check and make sure WiFi doea not work and I will try for you. I have tested the second one, and indeed the Internet speed is way reduced when talking on phone. Depending where you are, it is either H+ or 3G.
Hope that helps !
Cheers.
G.
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That's because the Exynos version doesn't support VoLTE. Idk about WiFi calling though
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http://willmyphonework.net/ This site says the global version has band 12.
Vozella said:
http://willmyphonework.net/ This site says the global version has band 12.
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But it won't work if T-Mobile won't allow it on their network
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Well i have Canadian Exynos Verison of S7, while roaming in US i had full LTE coverage of both AT&T and T-Mobile and with really good speeds
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The Internattional version does support band 12. and it works, however for VoLTE you have to find a firmware that has it which is hard. the Czech t-mobile firmware has VoLTE but no WiFi calling
The "F" international version also has Band 17 for AT&T
why do people who DON'T have the phone act like they know what they are talking about.
Works fine on T-Mo, and ATT. you just miss out on some of the bands, and also carrier features like VoLTE.
my 930F works fine on Tmo. and it'll work fine on ATT as well.