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[PSA] There's an OTA coming and it COULD be bad for us

It seems AT&T is pushing out an OTA version 2.20 that is rumored to close all the loopholes we've used to unlock and root the One X.
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
Wait until someone has gotten a hold of this version and picked it apart before installing it.
Keep Calm and Carry On.

gunnyman said:
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
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Even if you are rooted and unlocked BL, don't accept the OTA, unless you are brave and feel like being the guinea pig (I guess somebody has to be). The install may not work, or it may wipe out root, and the existing root methods may have been plugged up. OTA Rootkeeper might work. It did for the last OTA, but there is no guarantee that it will work this time. Somebody will probably post this as a recovery flashable zip in pre-rooted form. So be patient, unless you feel like experimenting, and living with the consequences.
Thanks for the public service announcement, as I'm sure people will start asking whether its safe to install the OTA.

I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.

gunnyman said:
I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.

Bu-bu-but I want the update NOW. Can I plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz install it? I know you said its not safe, but is it safe?

redpoint73 said:
It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
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Or how many people unroot just so they can get an OTA that will provide very little added performance if any. People are sooooo quick to accept OTAs when they have no clue what they are for. I can understand wanting to accept an OTA for a major OS update like ICS to JB (ok that was a lie, I still have no clue why people would rather accept an OTA than just flash a rooted ROM) but to give up root for a simple MR is just asinine.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.

gunnyman said:
Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Yep. This place is turning into a general Android forum. All the "I'm not really into rooting" posts crack me up.
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's and root them
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superchilpil said:
It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's
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Yup.

I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge

beaups said:
I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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yeah but you're old school.
(and a little weird)

got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!

Something like this should go without saying. Any xda member that's foolhardy enough to download an ota without knowing the consequences, probably doesn't belong here in the first place.
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zounduser said:
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
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Oooh maybe not.

Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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gunnyman said:
Oooh maybe not.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a pretty effective method to block and patch our root exploit
And I'm glad I did it last night
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.

iElvis said:
Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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yeah there's NOTHING anywhere else about this.
I'm glad I'm rooted

dedzombie said:
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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If I'm not mistaken, the exploit uses the AT&T update server to trick the phone into download mode, so I don't think this could work.

mandatory system update

Did anybody see this (mandatory system update) what the are you kidding me see attached highlighted.
Update notifications always appeared on this site Advanced Devices- Software Updates
http://support.verizonwireless.com/information/software_updates.html before release.
This was done very convert the attached should have been found on
Advanced Devices- Software Updates site. Verizon has sunk to a new Lowell McAdam
WoW and this is a company we trust with so much of are private information?
Shame on you verizon.
That's just my opinion I could be wrong.

Its still there on the website somewhere, just not listed in that directory yet. You have to manually go to the GS3 support page.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxys3.html

hmmm, an update? You sure about that? Haven't heard anything about an update. lol

very underhanded in my opinion. Thanks for the headsup.

I was actually given the option to install it or not.

Same with me are some people not getting that option?
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custom roms block OTA updates so I havent seen any of these yet.
if youre concerned about losing root and wahtnot, just take the extra couple of minutes to try a new ROM that does this for you.

[email protected] said:
hmmm, an update? You sure about that? Haven't heard anything about an update. lol
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Lol
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I just blocked the OTA easy:

And for the average user who doesn't browse these forums at all when they see an update its just normal for them and is not a big deal at all. They probably don't even check that site for update information either. If your so worried about an update just flash a custom recovery and you'll never have to worry about it again.

xyrcncp said:
I just blocked the OTA easy:
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That should do the trick. At least that's how I block the aliens from reading my thoughts.
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xyrcncp said:
I just blocked the OTA easy:
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hahaha

Rooting detection

Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?

Run synergy and not sweat it. TrevE **** blocked all that ****.
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slice2011 said:
Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?
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Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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GoonAssJuan said:
Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.

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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.
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That's what I meant by unlocking using the site
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Just curious as I don't want to root if they have a way of knowing you compromised the phone.

On the razr there is a boot menu they can go into to see if the device has ever been rooted, is currently rooted, or has been rooted but not at the moment. Ive never heard of anything on the GS3 like this
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So what is the Site? Thanks for the help
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I honestly dont think the carriers go through evey phone like some people would think they do. Well idk about vzw but when i was with tmobile for 6 years ive sent back about 10 phones some i left rooted and nevwr got hit with a out of warranty charge.
But you never know better safe then sorry i guess
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Software Uptdare 07/09/13

FYI, just checked my phone for an update and it is now downloading the 357.38MB update. I am not rooted btw

its_dale said:
FYI, just checked my phone for an update and it is now downloading the 357.38MB update. I am not rooted btw
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Is this the apps to SD update? I think the sprint update was about 357MB.

Just did this myself, any idea what it is? Wondering if this is the security patch?...
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xreflection said:
Is this the apps to SD update? I think the sprint update was about 357MB.
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still downloading. it took forever to "check for update". Some apps have updates (like Facebook) that give option to add the app to an SD card. This is probably what it is. Im a noob to android btw.. just letting people know an update is out.

I do not think this is wise, but I think the update is a patch that blocks the loki unlock the devs achieved. need to be careful with these updates as the devs have warned us about. I could be wrong here.
Oh well. let us know the outcome if you don't mind.
The Ax says that this is MY OPINION ONLY!

TheAxman said:
I do not think this is wise, but I think the update is a patch that blocks the loki unlock the devs achieved. need to be careful with these updates as the devs have warned us about. I could be wrong here.
Oh well. let us know the outcome if you don't mind.
The Ax says that this is MY OPINION ONLY!
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You are correct - it's usually a good idea to hold off on taking any OTA updates before knowing what they do. To keep from getting OTA updates, use something like Titanium backup to freeze or otherwise disable three specific apps:
Aou said:
Correct. To block future OTA updates, "Freeze" the following three applications:
AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
FWUpgrade x.x.x
LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x
Freezing (with Titanium Backup) will keep them from running, and effectively hide them from the rest of your system. Otherwise, you may find a way to backup and uninstall them completely, but this is more risky if you're ever planning to take an OTA update in the future.
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Apps can now be moved to SD card.. i have a notification that says "Device Management- Connecting to DM server..." and its been like that for a good 5 mins. Wish i can help with more, but again, Im stock and new to android

Can confirm an update also
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I got an upgrade too and it started downloading when I checked but I quickly bought the titanium pro version to freeze the upgrade apps to stop the download until we know if this is some kind of security update
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Any other way to stop it? I'm not rooted, but been tempted too lately. If not, can't change what I've done so no worries.
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I turned off my wifi and it interrupted the update and stopped downloading it. I am not updating till something is released about it.

DroidLife has some info on it
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/0...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(Droid+Life)
Mainly a update to KNOX.
Have to see if theres a modem update. If there is thats all thats important for me. And if they patched Loki.

Talked to ATT, app2sd, audio clipping issue with headphones fix, removed a wallpaper and added 2 back, and some msging fix. I think there was a few other things as well, he said a security patch as well, but no real information on what.
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I'll take the risk and attempt to download the patch without letting it install, and post its contents here. Wish me luck.

Well, plenty of warning has been given about waiting to apply this update until it is cleared as safe, so if anyone decides to ignore the warnings, too bad. If it's safe, it'll be known soon enough. I'm just wondering how many other threads will be made about it...anyone taking bets?

Anyone from AT&T get the update yet?
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Yes
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Yea I would definitely hold off on this update considering how long AT&T has had time now to play with it. Even an above post said the ATT rep said it was also a security update with no other info. Seems suspicious...
Be wise in your choices gentlemen; that's all I have to say

HiTideBlastoise said:
Yes
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Yeah I got the update but disconnected from wifi. Don't want to download it until I know what it is

I337UCUAMF3, MF3 baseband
Kernel June 5th build
New Battery Manager, Data Manager apps (just shortcut to setting menu)
Looks like same as I9505 MF8 build
Secure Boot status.. KNOX thingy for enterprise MDM only so no worries

Can someone upload only the baseband/modem so the rest of us can flash?
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Samsung posted MF3 source

Not to sure it will help much but it's been posted.
http://opensource.samsung.com/
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Apply update?
Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
Thanks

Bucknut89 said:
Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
Thanks
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If you're on MDL and want MF3, I recommend rooting and installing a custom recovery while you can, and then flashing the neutered MF3 update. Root is in the General section, many MF3 ROM's can be found in Development sections. Make sure to read the whole OP in whichever you go to before doing anything.

Bucknut89 said:
Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
Thanks
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Trolling?

blastagator said:
Trolling?
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why ask that? believe it or not some xda users never root their phone and could care less about loosing the ability to flash roms

help
I am in need of the stock mf3 firmware. tried getting rid of bloat ware and now getting error messages all over and cant recover

OK...after downloading and extracting...this is only the kernel source...

help
i did just that....but know i get samsung text to speech has stopped as well as music has stopped...factory wipe and clean did nothing as well as restoring terminator back up of all things i uninstalled...nothing help so i figured fresh install of mf3 firmware would do the trick but i guess no one has that yet

DeadlySin9 said:
If you're on MDL and want MF3, I recommend rooting and installing a custom recovery while you can, and then flashing the neutered MF3 update. Root is in the General section, many MF3 ROM's can be found in Development sections. Make sure to read the whole OP in whichever you go to before doing anything.
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I just really want the update so I can open the extra LTE bands. Also the Apps to SD would be nice. The Rooted roms dont fix the LTE bands. Also i dont care about rooting. Looks like CM is going to be coming out with a non root flash method for thier roms anyway.

You can unlock them... You don't need the update. Google.
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graydiggy said:
You can unlock them... You don't need the update. Google.
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Yes, you may be able to just flash the MF3 modem after a factory reset. That would hopefully resolve your current issues and open up the LTE bands.
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The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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graydiggy said:
The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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But the update did add support for more bands according to some posts ive read here on xda...more bands doesnt mean unlock...just means the possibility of att expanding there lte network with some new bands
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graydiggy said:
The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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Yeah AT&T opened up access to lte band 2 and 5 with the mf3 on their modem. Probably for international oversea purposes/partnership?
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If you want the MF3 rom and/or kernel, check out this thread. If you want just the modem (baseband), check out the latest addition, File #11 in that same thread.
Otherwise, I think this thread has been hijacked enough, and the original purpose has been served, in my opinion. The MF3 source is practically useless to anyone except Devs that want to build their own kernels.

Aou said:
If you want the MF3 rom and/or kernel, check out this thread. If you want just the modem (baseband), check out the latest addition, File #11 in that same thread.
Otherwise, I think this thread has been hijacked enough, and the original purpose has been served, in my opinion. The MF3 source is practically useless to anyone except Devs that want to build their own kernels.
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Could the kernel source also be useful to those looking to find an exploit in MF3 (to unlock the bootloader or something to that effect), or is the kernel too high-level for that sort of thing?

ethteck said:
Could the kernel source also be useful to those looking to find an exploit in MF3 (to unlock the bootloader or something to that effect), or is the kernel too high-level for that sort of thing?
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Pretty sure it's too high level. It might be useful for finding a root exploit, but that's been done already for MF3. It wouldn't be useful for finding a way to unlock the bootloaders, but the only slim help it could find in this area is perhaps providing clues to understanding "aboot" more, and how it checks for signatures on, and loads the kernel. But even still, that's a longshot. TBH, anyone who might be looking for exploits here should already be aware of the source code's existence, plus this sort of exploit would brobably be little different between MF3 and MDL.
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Also, welcome to XDA!

Excuse the possibly noobish question here, but what does this mean for the new root status? My phone came with MF3 and I really would like to get some custom ROMs on here. :?
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dlv_ said:
Excuse the possibly noobish question here, but what does this mean for the new root status? My phone came with MF3 and I really would like to get some custom ROMs on here. :?
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No custom ROMs yet. Only root
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graydiggy said:
No custom ROMs yet. Only root
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The one that needs the micro SD card, correct?
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