I just restored to a previous backup of an interop-unlocked version of Tango with Zune and my phone became relocked after two days. Does anyone know if Zune now puts back the MS internet lock check links in the registry during restores? These are the two http addresses that are to prevent relock and the ones you have to undo for Tango updates to prevent relock.
I am going to restore again with the work around to prevent relock and see if these registry values are modified, but it seems it is not just updating to Tango that causes this but even a restore to a backup (and my backup was made after I edited the registry back to prevent relock).
Zune Restores Relock now
UPDATE: I have tried going back to past backups I know worked before and everytime the restore is relocked immediately. MS has done something new to Zune where it relocks the phone regardless of the state you backed up. I also confirmed this with the internet disconnected so it is locally embedded in the Zune program.
I am now going back through the HTC IU process (thankfully I still have the v1 drivers) but this might explain issues I am seeing on the forum.
Question - is there any other method to restore a backup without using Zune?
Question2 - can you undo any changes MS does to Zune? How about using an older version?
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Yes, the registry entries responsible for the calling home are restored upon updating to Tango. For more information on how to upgrade without using your unlock see this guide written by Jaxbot.
Also, have you put your phone in airplane mode, too whilst trying this?
ZetaZynK said:
Yes, the registry entries responsible for the calling home are restored upon updating to Tango. For more information on how to upgrade without using your unlock see this guide written by Jaxbot.
Also, have you put your phone in airplane mode, too whilst trying this?
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Yes, I am fully aware and had been unlocked on Tango. I was messing around some more with hacks on my Tango and I wanted to revert back to my backup from a few weeks ago and found that Zune's restore process locks the phone regardless of any previous unlock saved in the backup. Zune has never done this before and I have restored to unlocked backups many times.
This is new behavior for Zune and I am wondering if anyone else has seen this. Unfortunately I don't recommend trying this as if it is new and true you will lose your unlock. However, it makes going back to an unlocked backup useless now.
This appears to be related to Chevron Labs token expiring even though I have an AppHub account. I had to unlock the phone again through AppHub and then reapply the IU HTC trick. I read over on WPCentral that even if you are on an AppHub unlocked and came from the Chevron token you can still get relocked when you sync with Zune since the tokens expired. Unfortunately you have to unlock again (and this does not work if you have the prevent unlock hack applied; you have to undo that first).
Pain in the ars....hopefully my rambling and findings come in handy for anyone else in this scenario.
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After a marathon 3 hours I am finally on Mango according to the Zune Update but I am still unlocked and am able to sideload apps.
There are a few observations I have made though.
1. I cannot add hidden wifi networks which I was able to do when I had installed the HTC Shipped Rom for HTC 7 Pro T7576.
2. The firmware version has not changed not has the SPL which changed when the HTC Shipped Rom was installed.
So do I have Mango or not? I am confused. Please help
hi,
if you installed the shipped rom, then you've basically just reinstalled it in this update. there should be not many changes except a refresh of the registry. if you were previously unlocked, then the updater took that into account, and rewrote the value (this is the kind of stuff it does in the "preparing update" stage). after that, it just rewrote everything. which is not bad.
if you want to get hidden wifi back, just use provxml to rewrite the reg values to show the menu.
enjoy mango. (and try the connected media app, it should work).
abhilaksh said:
hi,
if you installed the shipped rom, then you've basically just reinstalled it in this update. there should be not many changes except a refresh of the registry. if you were previously unlocked, then the updater took that into account, and rewrote the value (this is the kind of stuff it does in the "preparing update" stage). after that, it just rewrote everything. which is not bad.
if you want to get hidden wifi back, just use provxml to rewrite the reg values to show the menu.
enjoy mango. (and try the connected media app, it should work).
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I have rolled back to prenodo(7.0.7004) and then updated through Zune to 7.0.7008, 7.0.7403 and finally to Mango but while updating to Mango the Zune's update screen was showing Mango ISV Beta(7720). When i was in 7004 , i used chevron unlock and the ansars xap to keep the unlock going through the updates. One more observation i have is i don't have the Facebook chat as well in the messaging section
Me too thought the same for few hours ,,,, But When I tried to sideload the apps. Mango said "You Cheat ! You are caught .."
I just had 4 sideloaded programs on my 7 pro revoked
I've interop-unlocked my my phone since 1 year ago and updated to 8107 quite sometime ago
What's going on?? Anyone encountering this too? Or is this a signal for me to go full unlock?
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I just had 4 sideloaded programs on my 7 pro revoked
I've interop-unlocked my my phone since 1 year ago and updated to 8107 quite sometime ago
What's going on?? Anyone encountering this too? Or is this a signal for me to go full unlock?
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They can relock your phone if the proper values aren't set to prevent it in the registry. Most of the interop unlock methods now include this as part of the unlock.
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They can relock your phone if the proper values aren't set to prevent it in the registry. Most of the interop unlock methods now include this as part of the unlock.
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that's what I thought too, but fact is that my phone is now locked
I've had it on interop-unlock for more than a year, survived the upgrade to mango and all the updates but I just got locked
Oh man FML
Somewhere on this forum GDTD once mentioned he had a relock and it seemed to occur when his Zune Pass expired and he had forgot to renew it (or something like that). When he did the phone relocked (and he definitely knows how to set the reg to prevent relock). Did you have your Zune Pass expire or you added one?
Seriously MS needs to stop this already, what is wrong with us wanting more acent colors or using custom alert sounds? If they didn't want anyone hacking or moding then give it to us. Honestly this is one of many things that is turning most away from the platform. What they should focus on is things like getting freakin' AT&T and Verizon to release the keyboard issue update.
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Somewhere on this forum GDTD once mentioned he had a relock and it seemed to occur when his Zune Pass expired and he had forgot to renew it (or something like that). When he did the phone relocked (and he definitely knows how to set the reg to prevent relock). Did you have your Zune Pass expire or you added one?
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Nope I dont have Zune pass
What is so weird is that I have already set the reg to prevent relock all the way back to pre-nodo and it is still able to lock itself up.
Thanks though, maybe I'll go flash a rom for a full unlock
Can those roms still receive official updates?
*edit: I'm at work now, so it's a little inconvenient for me to do a search, but did GDTD find a fix?
He just unlocked again. If you have Dev unlock/Chevron and use Heathcliff's method just do it again. If you were unlocked from back to NoDo, the prevent unlock reg edit probably didn't stay along the way at some point. It is too hard to figure out your exact situation without knowing your history and phone details.
P.S. Outside of your situation, the only other one I have seen where a relock occurred was the Zune Pass situation. Here is the thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22242939&highlight=zune+pass#post22242939
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Oh, and as far as the full-unlocked ROMs, they are all custom and I don't think they accept official updates anymore (you have to wait for the custom rom cook to brew a new one with the latest).
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He just unlocked again. If you have Dev unlock/Chevron and use Heathcliff's method just do it again. If you were unlocked from back to NoDo, the prevent unlock reg edit probably didn't stay along the way at some point. It is too hard to figure out your exact situation without knowing your history and phone details.
P.S. Outside of your situation, the only other one I have seen where a relock occurred was the Zune Pass situation. Here is the thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22242939&highlight=zune+pass#post22242939
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Oh, and as far as the full-unlocked ROMs, they are all custom and I don't think they accept official updates anymore (you have to wait for the custom rom cook to brew a new one with the latest).
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thanks
I'll try a restore when I get home (think I have a pre 8107) copy
I read that 8107 prevents writing to the registry now, so I'm not sure how I'm going to do an interop-unlock
Thanks guys for the help. It seems I'll have to get through the day with 4 blank tiles on my home screen (can't even do a soft reset wtf!)
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thanks
I'll try a restore when I get home (think I have a pre 8107) copy
I read that 8107 prevents writing to the registry now, so I'm not sure how I'm going to do an interop-unlock
Thanks guys for the help. It seems I'll have to get through the day with 4 blank tiles on my home screen (can't even do a soft reset wtf!)
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8107 itself does not block interop-unlock or reg edit abilities. But if you update to the latest OEM drivers it is the drivers that do. I have 8107 but have not allowed HTC's latest driver updates - v2 ones (and Samsung has new drivers that wreak it as well I think called KK2). Good luck and don't let the latest drivers update (and if you want 8107 push it with Heathcliff's CAB method).
Thanks
Will try it when I get home
Another thread with a relock occurring; need to keep an eye on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23532141#post23532141
Question 1 - did everyone that had a relock connect to Zune on the PC just prior?
Question 2 - if not, did you connect to anything MS related on your phone (Marketplace, XBOX Games)?
I guess it is possible if you make a connection to a MS server and it sees you are a WP it could do a probe.
i just did a restore to a working backup (twice actually) and it's not working anymore
yes, my last action before this **** happened was to sync to zune
i don't have zune pass, disabled xbox live logins, applied all the necessary tweaks (since pre-nodo) to prevent a relock but this still happened
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it's not working anymore = the unlock (dev-unlock, interop-unlock) are not working anymore
all my apps, other than those installed through marketplace, got revoked
Since Zune seems to be the source of the problem try restoring your backup with your internet connection on your pc turned off.
will try that when I get him tonight (like 12 hours later)
It seems like the battery status app was working for a while cos it got updated. Will try restoring without sim+internet tonight
And what's this thing about the phone relocking after a year? I don't exactly remember when did I unlock, but it's roughly around this period last year
How did you do the unlock?
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How did you do the unlock?
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original chevron from pre-nodo
I use an actual Dev license to keep my device unlocked (seriously....its $100 a year...a small price to pay to have a legitimately unlocked phone...plus I actually develop and release apps and games for a livingt)
Back on topic, my phone "relocked" itself recently. apparantly, MS has a "lease" of sorts that it issues on locked devices for developers and this "lease" expires after a year. I had remove my device from the list of registered devices and re-register it to renew the lease on the phone to unlock it.
Hi guys,
Long story short: My phone lost its developers lock and I can no longer unlock it again without having to hard reset my phone (this will restore the portal urls in the registry).
My issue is I have sms's dating back to when i got the phone (htc hd7) at launch and I really dont want to loose these. It's not an option for me to loose them.
What I need to know is if there is any way of backing this sms data up without it being developer unlocked? The reason why I cant unlock it is because I removed the Portal url info in the phones registry prior to me going legit with a developers account and I forgot to change it back. This is now preventing the phone from checking that I have a legitimate developers account.
Any help appreciated.
Do you have a backup of the phone (Zune restore point) from when you were unlocked? You can restore that, and you'll be unlocked again and still have all the SMS you've received prior to taking that backup. Not perfect, but it should work...
Odd that an official dev-unlock (via AppHub) doesn't work. My phone has the PortalURL values wiped (to prevent it from continuously resetting my interop-unlock) but the Windows Phone Developer Registration tool can still access my phone and sees it as currently being unlocked. Maybe it's becuase I first unlocked with the official unlock, then applied "keep unlocked" (the Portal reg values) and interop-unlock?
That said, to use any of the SMS backup tools you'll need at least an interop-unlock as well, and if your firmware version is too recent that's not currently possible. Even if you previously had WP7 Root Tools installed, you wouldn't be able to run it.
I can't change the oem marketplace...now my marketplace oem stucks on OEM APPS from Marketplace Config but it doesn't work, I tried to change the oem by WPHTHWEAKS, winTT (it doesn't open anymore ), via manual registry modification but nothing the oemmarketplace doesn't work and doesn't change...any solution??? I am in panic...
First of all, do *NOT* change anything in the registry to switch Marketplaces!! Doing so will break the Marketplace DRM on your phone, making it impossible to install or run Marketplace apps. If you did change anything, change it back immediately!
Assuming that hasn't already happened, a little more detail would help. What phone, what ROM, what unlocks and other hacks have you applied? Are you restarting the phone after applying the Marketplace switch?
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First of all, do *NOT* change anything in the registry to switch Marketplaces!! Doing so will break the Marketplace DRM on your phone, making it impossible to install or run Marketplace apps. If you did change anything, change it back immediately!
Assuming that hasn't already happened, a little more detail would help. What phone, what ROM, what unlocks and other hacks have you applied? Are you restarting the phone after applying the Marketplace switch?
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Now after a lot of attempts I can change the oem marketplace...but when I open the oem marketplace (Nokia Collection, but tried with Samsung Zone too) it give me an error: "THE MARKETPLACE IS NOT AVAIBLE AT THE MOMENT. TRY AFTER. Code error:c00cee4f".
Did I break the DRM?? How can I fix it??...Anyway I can download and install apps and if I write "Nokia" in search bar, I can see all Nokia apps and download it without problem...
The phone is an Omnia W, stock rom rooted, upgraded to Tango.
Now the Oem Marketplace returned to be Samsung itself but it give me the same error....thanks for your help
Breaking the DRM usually makes it so you can't even launch Marketplace apps that are already installed, so that's probably not what's happening here. I don't know for sure what *is* happening, though. The only known way to fix your phone if you break the DRM is to either restore a backup from when it was working, or hard-reset, so hopefully that's not the problem.
That error code unfortunately doesn't mean anything to me. Disregarding the high-order bits (which Microsoft usually uses to show what type of status code it is; in this case, an error), that's error number 847439 in decimal. I've never seen that error before.
You might try just renaming or otherwise removing all the files in the PimentoCache\Keepers folder (all the Marketplace config files are there). Then restoart your phone. Marketplace might not work at that point, but the phone should automatically restore the correct files in a day or two.
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Breaking the DRM usually makes it so you can't even launch Marketplace apps that are already installed, so that's probably not what's happening here. I don't know for sure what *is* happening, though. The only known way to fix your phone if you break the DRM is to either restore a backup from when it was working, or hard-reset, so hopefully that's not the problem.
That error code unfortunately doesn't mean anything to me. Disregarding the high-order bits (which Microsoft usually uses to show what type of status code it is; in this case, an error), that's error number 847439 in decimal. I've never seen that error before.
You might try just renaming or otherwise removing all the files in the PimentoCache\Keepers folder (all the Marketplace config files are there). Then restoart your phone. Marketplace might not work at that point, but the phone should automatically restore the correct files in a day or two.
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Fiuuuuuuuuuhhhh... DRM is saved xD...ok i will try to rename that files and let you know if this method will work...thank you again
Edit: I can't find PimentoCache\Keppers folder---->Edit2: Found
EDIT 3: Thanks GoodDayToDie...problem solved finally You rules!!!!
So i upgraded to 7.10.8773.98 aka Tango without realizing i would lose inter-op unlock capabilities. So now, i cant have homebrew apps anymore which i really liked. is there any way that i can go back to an older version? i dont have a backup anywhere either.
Thanks
PS: I have a Samsung Focus Flash so it worked with WPH's windowbreak project
Question 1: what happened to your backup?
Question 2: did you not read the info on how to preserve your until on Tango?
That said, if you really did nuke your backup, you're SOL. We don't yet know of any other way to downgrade a Samsung gen2 phone, nor of a way to interop-unlock a fully up-to-date one. It's possible to carry an unlock forward, but that's it.
Q1: So for like a month, i switched from windows phone to android to try it out. i was using the s2 but didnt really like it much. but when i switched, i deleted zune thinking i wouldnt need it. so i uninstalled zune. so since i uninstalled zune, my backup is now gone.
Q2: Question 1 answers it lol. but i had resetted my windows phone after i came back to it because the sim wouldnt be recognized. thats where i lost my interop-unlock
if i deleted zune, is there any way of getting my old backup back? like is it laying on my computer somewhere or no?
yj121 said:
if i deleted zune, is there any way of getting my old backup back? like is it laying on my computer somewhere or no?
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had you done it straight away its possible that you could have "undeleted" it, however it would have been a pure pain in the arse even if you did it straight away as its hundreds of files, all of which would have lost their name. leaving it for any length of time would have more than likely let the OS overwrite some of it.
Sorry mate, your stuck
thanks anyways
Actually, I'm not certain that deleting Zune will also nuke the backup image. It's stored in %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update. Reinstalling Zune, or re-connecting your phone to Zune, may have wiped it though.
If you're running Vista or Win7, you may be able to recover the backup folder using the "Previous Versions" feature. Check for Previous Versions of your %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft folder, and see if you can find the Windows Phone Update folder. If so, restore it (just the WPU folder, not everything else) and see if it works.
A month is a longish time for that many files to sit undisturbed in the volume shadow copy stash, but if you have a very large hard drive or don't do a lot of disk writes, it's quite likely they're still there. I have Previous Versions of some files that go back for three or more months.
its empty
lol can some1 give me their backup? without any person stuff on it? i just need the old firmware, nothing else
Also, is there any way i can trick zune into thinking that i have an older version on my windows phone thus upgrading to like 8107 or 7740 or something? or is there any way that i can get the firmware online (instead of from the appdata thing on my computer) and download it and use that?
You can't use backups from other devices, the backup is device specific, your device your backup.
I'm not exactly sure how the updates work but I suspect it checks file version numbers an since we can't mess about with system files unless we have custom roms, which would negate this problem in the first place, I don't think it is possible to fool it to install an older firmware
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I beleive the version info for updating actually comes from the registry (DeviceTargetingInfo). I've been meaning for some time to try messing with that, and since I need to re-flash my phone anyhow, I might just do so (I have an HTC, so this is possible for me). It's a dangerous registry key to mess with, though, and of course editing it requires interop- or root-unlock.