[Q] is ms relocking phones again? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just had 4 sideloaded programs on my 7 pro revoked
I've interop-unlocked my my phone since 1 year ago and updated to 8107 quite sometime ago
What's going on?? Anyone encountering this too? Or is this a signal for me to go full unlock?

blanket said:
I just had 4 sideloaded programs on my 7 pro revoked
I've interop-unlocked my my phone since 1 year ago and updated to 8107 quite sometime ago
What's going on?? Anyone encountering this too? Or is this a signal for me to go full unlock?
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They can relock your phone if the proper values aren't set to prevent it in the registry. Most of the interop unlock methods now include this as part of the unlock.

voluptuary said:
They can relock your phone if the proper values aren't set to prevent it in the registry. Most of the interop unlock methods now include this as part of the unlock.
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that's what I thought too, but fact is that my phone is now locked
I've had it on interop-unlock for more than a year, survived the upgrade to mango and all the updates but I just got locked
Oh man FML

Somewhere on this forum GDTD once mentioned he had a relock and it seemed to occur when his Zune Pass expired and he had forgot to renew it (or something like that). When he did the phone relocked (and he definitely knows how to set the reg to prevent relock). Did you have your Zune Pass expire or you added one?

Seriously MS needs to stop this already, what is wrong with us wanting more acent colors or using custom alert sounds? If they didn't want anyone hacking or moding then give it to us. Honestly this is one of many things that is turning most away from the platform. What they should focus on is things like getting freakin' AT&T and Verizon to release the keyboard issue update.

LiFePo4 said:
Somewhere on this forum GDTD once mentioned he had a relock and it seemed to occur when his Zune Pass expired and he had forgot to renew it (or something like that). When he did the phone relocked (and he definitely knows how to set the reg to prevent relock). Did you have your Zune Pass expire or you added one?
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Nope I dont have Zune pass
What is so weird is that I have already set the reg to prevent relock all the way back to pre-nodo and it is still able to lock itself up.
Thanks though, maybe I'll go flash a rom for a full unlock
Can those roms still receive official updates?
*edit: I'm at work now, so it's a little inconvenient for me to do a search, but did GDTD find a fix?

He just unlocked again. If you have Dev unlock/Chevron and use Heathcliff's method just do it again. If you were unlocked from back to NoDo, the prevent unlock reg edit probably didn't stay along the way at some point. It is too hard to figure out your exact situation without knowing your history and phone details.
P.S. Outside of your situation, the only other one I have seen where a relock occurred was the Zune Pass situation. Here is the thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22242939&highlight=zune+pass#post22242939
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Oh, and as far as the full-unlocked ROMs, they are all custom and I don't think they accept official updates anymore (you have to wait for the custom rom cook to brew a new one with the latest).

LiFePo4 said:
He just unlocked again. If you have Dev unlock/Chevron and use Heathcliff's method just do it again. If you were unlocked from back to NoDo, the prevent unlock reg edit probably didn't stay along the way at some point. It is too hard to figure out your exact situation without knowing your history and phone details.
P.S. Outside of your situation, the only other one I have seen where a relock occurred was the Zune Pass situation. Here is the thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22242939&highlight=zune+pass#post22242939
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Oh, and as far as the full-unlocked ROMs, they are all custom and I don't think they accept official updates anymore (you have to wait for the custom rom cook to brew a new one with the latest).
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thanks
I'll try a restore when I get home (think I have a pre 8107) copy
I read that 8107 prevents writing to the registry now, so I'm not sure how I'm going to do an interop-unlock
Thanks guys for the help. It seems I'll have to get through the day with 4 blank tiles on my home screen (can't even do a soft reset wtf!)

blanket said:
thanks
I'll try a restore when I get home (think I have a pre 8107) copy
I read that 8107 prevents writing to the registry now, so I'm not sure how I'm going to do an interop-unlock
Thanks guys for the help. It seems I'll have to get through the day with 4 blank tiles on my home screen (can't even do a soft reset wtf!)
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8107 itself does not block interop-unlock or reg edit abilities. But if you update to the latest OEM drivers it is the drivers that do. I have 8107 but have not allowed HTC's latest driver updates - v2 ones (and Samsung has new drivers that wreak it as well I think called KK2). Good luck and don't let the latest drivers update (and if you want 8107 push it with Heathcliff's CAB method).

Thanks
Will try it when I get home

Another thread with a relock occurring; need to keep an eye on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23532141#post23532141
Question 1 - did everyone that had a relock connect to Zune on the PC just prior?
Question 2 - if not, did you connect to anything MS related on your phone (Marketplace, XBOX Games)?
I guess it is possible if you make a connection to a MS server and it sees you are a WP it could do a probe.

i just did a restore to a working backup (twice actually) and it's not working anymore
yes, my last action before this **** happened was to sync to zune
i don't have zune pass, disabled xbox live logins, applied all the necessary tweaks (since pre-nodo) to prevent a relock but this still happened
*edit
it's not working anymore = the unlock (dev-unlock, interop-unlock) are not working anymore
all my apps, other than those installed through marketplace, got revoked

Since Zune seems to be the source of the problem try restoring your backup with your internet connection on your pc turned off.

will try that when I get him tonight (like 12 hours later)
It seems like the battery status app was working for a while cos it got updated. Will try restoring without sim+internet tonight
And what's this thing about the phone relocking after a year? I don't exactly remember when did I unlock, but it's roughly around this period last year

How did you do the unlock?

LiFePo4 said:
How did you do the unlock?
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original chevron from pre-nodo

I use an actual Dev license to keep my device unlocked (seriously....its $100 a year...a small price to pay to have a legitimately unlocked phone...plus I actually develop and release apps and games for a livingt)
Back on topic, my phone "relocked" itself recently. apparantly, MS has a "lease" of sorts that it issues on locked devices for developers and this "lease" expires after a year. I had remove my device from the list of registered devices and re-register it to renew the lease on the phone to unlock it.

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[Q] Push notifications no more, can I dev unlock in NoDo to fix?

So I had to hard reset after my push notifications suddenly stopped work 3 months ago. Wasn't thrilled about spending hours reinstalling apps, configuring settings and restoring bookmarks.
So anyway today my push notifications broke a second time. I refuse to lose everything again and redo it all from scratch. I'm been searching a while looking for workarounds. I found a fix by making a couple easy regedits: http://wmpoweruser.com/how-to-fix-l...a-hard-reset-only-developer-unlocked-devices/
But the problem is I need a dev unlocked device first. Unfortunately I have already applied NoDo to my HD7 a month ago or so. I found the following post but not sure if it will work in my case so haven't tried it yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101344
Anyone know if I'm out of luck or if there is an actual way to fix this with out hard resetting OR a way to still dev unlock?
Thanks everyone!
pistol44 said:
So I had to hard reset after my push notifications suddenly stopped work 3 months ago. Wasn't thrilled about spending hours reinstalling apps, configuring settings and restoring bookmarks.
So anyway today my push notifications broke a second time. I refuse to lose everything again and redo it all from scratch. I'm been searching a while looking for workarounds. I found a fix by making a couple easy regedits: http://wmpoweruser.com/how-to-fix-l...a-hard-reset-only-developer-unlocked-devices/
But the problem is I need a dev unlocked device first. Unfortunately I have already applied NoDo to my HD7 a month ago or so. I found the following post but not sure if it will work in my case so haven't tried it yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101344
Anyone know if I'm out of luck or if there is an actual way to fix this with out hard resetting OR a way to still dev unlock?
Thanks everyone!
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No ..there is no way to unlock a nodo device ..for now...
Waiting for a way to do it for free ...or chevron team to release the service to dev unlock phones ..but for a small fee

[Q] New Update Available 7/26/2011

Today i woke up and noticed my HD7 was telling me that there is an update available. Anyone have any idea what update this is? I'm currently on OS Version: 7.0.7392. Zune tells me "Available Update: HTC Update for Windows Phone".
My HDy just gave me the notification. Ran to XDA to see if there was any information on this update. I am also running OS 7.0.7392.0
It's an HTC update, not sure what it addresses exactly. Took about twenty minutes start to finish and the only thing I've noticed so far is that message notifications aren't consistently showing up on the top of the screen. Sometimes, but not always.
Based on the news article on this update from pocketnow.com, it looks like the new update will:
- upgrade your firmware, radio, and bootloader versions.
- HTC Hidden WiFi app now works properly.
- camera fix (pinkish hue is now gone)
- GPS works better
Probably worth upgrading to. Too bad i'm on Mango.
I will hold of on this update for a while since my phone is Chevron unlocked so that i can use Navigon 3 that was opened up to us NA members by a great member here Kounadisk. If anyone uses this update and was Chevron unlocked can, you please post your results on if you are still unlocked or not? TIA...
Is this update US only? I have dev unlocked / unbranded HD7, and Zune shows nothing
PrinceVegeta978 said:
I will hold of on this update for a while since my phone is Chevron unlocked so that i can use Navigon 3 that was opened up to us NA members by a great member here Kounadisk. If anyone uses this update and was Chevron unlocked can, you please post your results on if you are still unlocked or not? TIA...
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Use "V1.6 Working App to Backup Windows Phone 7 via ZUNE ANY TIME" & make a back-up. Than go to C:\Users\"UserID"\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\"DeviceID(Something like 7c335bc8...)" & copy it to a safe place. Than do the update. At least than you'll have a back-up just in case. I am officially dev unlocked & it remained so. All my registry hacks (Max Apps,Banding Bug Fix, Some Volume Registry Edits, Custom Accent Colors, etc.) seem to be okay too. HTC most likely just updated the camera drivers & a few other things. It didn't take long to download, so the update isn't that big. Wish they'd fix the volume issue on the HD7.
Snake. said:
Is this update US only? I have dev unlocked / unbranded HD7, and Zune shows nothing
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From what I read, this is a T-Mobile USA update. Don't know if it's only USA though.
Another side note, it seems as though my screen's color is better after the update (I may just be seeing things).

[Q] chevron wp7 connectivity problem

I am able to reach upto that dialog box where I have. To select both options and click unlock.
But as I click unlock same connectivity problem arises.
Says unable to communicate with ur phone
Make sure Zune is running is there a solution
ChevronWP7 Unlocked does not work on any phone version newer than 7008. This is quite well documented. Additionally, the certificate it uses (the file you had to install) is expired, and won't work unless both the phone and the PC have their clocks set bback a few months. If you read the last few pages of the ChevronWP7 Unlocker thread, this was also mentioned several times and in some detail.
Please, research hacks before you try to use them. It will save everybody some time and trouble, but most especially yourself.

[Q] Restore from Zune losing unlock

I just restored to a previous backup of an interop-unlocked version of Tango with Zune and my phone became relocked after two days. Does anyone know if Zune now puts back the MS internet lock check links in the registry during restores? These are the two http addresses that are to prevent relock and the ones you have to undo for Tango updates to prevent relock.
I am going to restore again with the work around to prevent relock and see if these registry values are modified, but it seems it is not just updating to Tango that causes this but even a restore to a backup (and my backup was made after I edited the registry back to prevent relock).
Zune Restores Relock now
UPDATE: I have tried going back to past backups I know worked before and everytime the restore is relocked immediately. MS has done something new to Zune where it relocks the phone regardless of the state you backed up. I also confirmed this with the internet disconnected so it is locally embedded in the Zune program.
I am now going back through the HTC IU process (thankfully I still have the v1 drivers) but this might explain issues I am seeing on the forum.
Question - is there any other method to restore a backup without using Zune?
Question2 - can you undo any changes MS does to Zune? How about using an older version?
This is not good
Yes, the registry entries responsible for the calling home are restored upon updating to Tango. For more information on how to upgrade without using your unlock see this guide written by Jaxbot.
Also, have you put your phone in airplane mode, too whilst trying this?
ZetaZynK said:
Yes, the registry entries responsible for the calling home are restored upon updating to Tango. For more information on how to upgrade without using your unlock see this guide written by Jaxbot.
Also, have you put your phone in airplane mode, too whilst trying this?
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Yes, I am fully aware and had been unlocked on Tango. I was messing around some more with hacks on my Tango and I wanted to revert back to my backup from a few weeks ago and found that Zune's restore process locks the phone regardless of any previous unlock saved in the backup. Zune has never done this before and I have restored to unlocked backups many times.
This is new behavior for Zune and I am wondering if anyone else has seen this. Unfortunately I don't recommend trying this as if it is new and true you will lose your unlock. However, it makes going back to an unlocked backup useless now.
This appears to be related to Chevron Labs token expiring even though I have an AppHub account. I had to unlock the phone again through AppHub and then reapply the IU HTC trick. I read over on WPCentral that even if you are on an AppHub unlocked and came from the Chevron token you can still get relocked when you sync with Zune since the tokens expired. Unfortunately you have to unlock again (and this does not work if you have the prevent unlock hack applied; you have to undo that first).
Pain in the ars....hopefully my rambling and findings come in handy for anyone else in this scenario.

[Q] Downgrade windows phone 7.5 refresh (Tango)

So i upgraded to 7.10.8773.98 aka Tango without realizing i would lose inter-op unlock capabilities. So now, i cant have homebrew apps anymore which i really liked. is there any way that i can go back to an older version? i dont have a backup anywhere either.
Thanks
PS: I have a Samsung Focus Flash so it worked with WPH's windowbreak project
Question 1: what happened to your backup?
Question 2: did you not read the info on how to preserve your until on Tango?
That said, if you really did nuke your backup, you're SOL. We don't yet know of any other way to downgrade a Samsung gen2 phone, nor of a way to interop-unlock a fully up-to-date one. It's possible to carry an unlock forward, but that's it.
Q1: So for like a month, i switched from windows phone to android to try it out. i was using the s2 but didnt really like it much. but when i switched, i deleted zune thinking i wouldnt need it. so i uninstalled zune. so since i uninstalled zune, my backup is now gone.
Q2: Question 1 answers it lol. but i had resetted my windows phone after i came back to it because the sim wouldnt be recognized. thats where i lost my interop-unlock
if i deleted zune, is there any way of getting my old backup back? like is it laying on my computer somewhere or no?
yj121 said:
if i deleted zune, is there any way of getting my old backup back? like is it laying on my computer somewhere or no?
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had you done it straight away its possible that you could have "undeleted" it, however it would have been a pure pain in the arse even if you did it straight away as its hundreds of files, all of which would have lost their name. leaving it for any length of time would have more than likely let the OS overwrite some of it.
Sorry mate, your stuck
thanks anyways
Actually, I'm not certain that deleting Zune will also nuke the backup image. It's stored in %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update. Reinstalling Zune, or re-connecting your phone to Zune, may have wiped it though.
If you're running Vista or Win7, you may be able to recover the backup folder using the "Previous Versions" feature. Check for Previous Versions of your %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft folder, and see if you can find the Windows Phone Update folder. If so, restore it (just the WPU folder, not everything else) and see if it works.
A month is a longish time for that many files to sit undisturbed in the volume shadow copy stash, but if you have a very large hard drive or don't do a lot of disk writes, it's quite likely they're still there. I have Previous Versions of some files that go back for three or more months.
its empty
lol can some1 give me their backup? without any person stuff on it? i just need the old firmware, nothing else
Also, is there any way i can trick zune into thinking that i have an older version on my windows phone thus upgrading to like 8107 or 7740 or something? or is there any way that i can get the firmware online (instead of from the appdata thing on my computer) and download it and use that?
You can't use backups from other devices, the backup is device specific, your device your backup.
I'm not exactly sure how the updates work but I suspect it checks file version numbers an since we can't mess about with system files unless we have custom roms, which would negate this problem in the first place, I don't think it is possible to fool it to install an older firmware
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I beleive the version info for updating actually comes from the registry (DeviceTargetingInfo). I've been meaning for some time to try messing with that, and since I need to re-flash my phone anyhow, I might just do so (I have an HTC, so this is possible for me). It's a dangerous registry key to mess with, though, and of course editing it requires interop- or root-unlock.

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