Ok guys I have prbassplayer's blessing on this thread and he feels it may work so lets keep this civil and make it a helpful and definitive thread to help any and all users get better battery life. From here on this will be the only thread on battery life all others in q&a and general will be reported and hopefully closed. it is open to people in the skyrocket section on any rom and kernel combo. There are rules and standards that any who wish for help on this thread.
Rules
All requests for help must be in this format as this will help in speedy and decent recommendations.
1.Rom & Kernel Combo
2.How long you have been on said combo ex. 3 days and number of cycles will help considerably too.
3.Screenshots
1.Battery Graph
2.Screen on time
3.Better Battery Stats info (If applicable but not required).
4.general usage info as in how do you use your phone give us details into what you do through the day.
You can not suggest another rom.
this thread will not be turned into a best rom thread it is to help others get the most out of their current setups you may suggest other kernels but if you suggest another rom i will report your post and it will be removed.
My hope is that this will cut down on tons of threads and give everyone a good place to get help please guys lets make this section awesome like it used to be.
I think u should also ad to the op (nrm ) a few simple guidelines or places/things they can go and independently research. Not spoon feeding mind u, just a starting point. here are a few examples that come to mind:
1) Underclocking/governors
2) Undervolting
3) Wakelocks (pre-established thread anyone?)
4) Droidwall/background data usage & sync
5) CPU Sleeper & alternatives
6) Auto brightness controls (cm9, lux, etc...)
7) Wifi as alternative
8) H+ instead of LTE
9) Modem/radio choice
10) Sleep/display time outs etc...
And MOST IMPORTANTLY, avoiding apps like Juice Defender
I'll look into adding as we go thanks for the ideas bro
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I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
teeg07 said:
I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
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This isn't to post your good setups it was to help people on their current setups that need help
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Great idea illnevertell! As usual
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Not having bad battery life, but hey, it can always be better right!?!
First off, GREAT thread idea, it's a shame it hasn't really been utilized though. How about I start. I'm wondering a bit about how much battery I can save if I get rid of Google maps. Also, if you have any recommendations of a replacement for it if I do dump it. Even if I don't open the application the entire day, it is consistently in the top stats on my BBS reports. I'm not really sure of the effect it will have if I get rid of it though. I mean, if it is only going to get me another 40-60 minutes per charge, I don't know if it would be worth losing the convenient access to reliable maps.
Anyway, I thought I'd toss this out and see what everyone thinks.
I'm currently running Majicks Orthus One (quite happily I might add) and I've been on it for almost a week now. I generally don't use my phone too much during the weekdays while at work but, once I get home, the screen is generally on until I go to bed. On weekends, which is when I grabbed these screenies and BBS dumb, I am on WIFI most of the day, but I use my phone ALL DAY LONG even though I've got my laptop and rooted Kindle running CM10 sitting right next to me. LOL!
Other than the apps I've added (around 70 total), I've got it set up pretty much as if I just flashed it. By this, I mean that I haven't really done any battery tweaking. It's on badass gov by default, and I am utilizing the bln feature (I know it hates my battery, but I LOVE this feature). I get pretty good life usually (12-16 hours with 3-5 hours of screen on time), and I haven't really seen the media wake locks which are affecting others. Also, and I know I'm asking a ton (and maybe even being a bit of a battery miser considering I'm already getting decent time on my charges), but do you see anything else that should be a cause of alarm to me? Everything looks minuscule to me compared to Maps, but I know that there are many people who know much more than me when it comes to this stuff. So all thoughts are welcome.Without further adeau, here are some of my screen shots and BBS dump...
Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Great idea. I'll contribute as well.
I'm also on Orthus-One, and whatever kernel comes with. One change I made was to change the governor to Conservative. Not entirely sure what that does, but I thought I'd throw it out.
I've been on this ROM for 28ish hours, so today was day 1. I've rebooted a few times. Can't remember how many.
I don't know that I've done a whole lot to reduce battery usage. Today I was on wifi almost all day, but normally I fluctuate between H+ and LTE (LTE near work, H+ most of the drive home, wifi at home).
Brightness is set at a constant ~35% with auto brightness removed. I don't use my phone for anything other than answering calls in the car, so that suits me.
I don't play any games that would be battery intensive, and only watch videos (from sd) when it's plugged in. Rarely listen to music, but that's likely to change next week on vacation.
These shots were taken about 3 hours ago. There's been another hour and a quarter of screen on time since then. I used my phone a lot today, as you can see.
Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
Since it was mentioned above, this is all on a Standard battery.
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Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that. If you can do without a location service more often than not, I'd leave it and GPS off. I actually think network location is less useful than GPS--GPS doesn't use *that* much more battery, and it's precise. With network location, if a couple of wifi networks near you have "_nomap" appended to the end of their name, you're lost.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast. Personally, I don't think any of the "anti-virus" apps are worth the time it takes to download them. They sit there eating up battery, when really all you need to make sure your phone doesn't pick up a virus or malware is common sense. Only install apps from Play, Amazon and XDA (third-party markets will often put bootloaders and other bad stuff in their apps), don't click anything on shady-looking websites, and leave USB debugging off unless you need it.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook. It used a ton of network data for apparently only being active 28s (according to the PWL data). Do you have it set to use push notifications or refresh on a short schedule?
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Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
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Not a coincidence at all. "Naked" phones run cooler than phones in a case. Shouldn't be by a ton (if it is, get a new case), but a case, naturally, restricts airflow, which allows more heat to build up. I had to stop using my Otterbox Defender for that reason--the phone was just getting too hot inside the case, and I was starting to be concerned.
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That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook.
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Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location. I was using it cause the wife is a bit of a worry wart and she heard a story from a friend that their husband was in a motorcycle accident not involving another car and wasn't found for about 12 hours cause he fell into a ditch off a country road. Now, she thinks that if one of us ever get into an accident, that latitude is going to save us. Lol! I get the theory behind it, but her iphone only updates it sporadically anyway so it's not really worth much. I unchecked all location services, and I'll just turn on gps when I need it and see how that treats me.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
BLN is a power monger, but I love being able to have that option so I deal with it.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
I appreciate you looking into this for me as you are pretty much the battery guru around here. I was a bit worried that no one was looking at this thread cause it wasn't really being utilized. I don't understand why, when everyone wants to open a thread for battery life, they don't seem to want to utilize the one sanctioned by our mod. But that seems to just be xda in general lately.
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Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location.
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If you're willing to, freeze/uninstall Maps and use MapQuest and/or OSMAnd instead. Both eat up far less battery, and MapQuest has basically all the same features. I use Waze as well, but that's more for speed trap notifications than anything else.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
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Just an FYI, you can have the Avast theft protection app (the one they tell you to give a custom name to) on your phone without the full Avast suite. Eats up almost no battery, and can be set to wipe upon X number of failed attempts to sign in.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
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Friendcaster and Tweetcaster have both had great results for me. The Twitter app's biggest sin is a stray alarm that'll hold you awake for 10-15 seconds every so often. The Facebook app, though, is (I can only assume) downloading ad data and sending usage info back at set intervals, even if you have it set to refresh every X hours. I caught on when I had it set to never auto-update, but saw that it was still using mobile data.
As far as mobile protection I don't use antivirus but I have Cerberus for tracking wiping and the like
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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Please attach screenshots like stated in the rules there is a reason I placed the requirement there
Also posting about how you use your phone is a rule
All you did was throw a DL at us and say fix it we do this for free to help the least you can do is follow every rule stated in op
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Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
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First problem is you're using juice defender. Imo, that app does more harm than good on ics. It also looks like the gtalk app is waking you up way to much. If you don't use it, I'd say to delete it or, at the very least, log out of it when you aren't using it. Maps, like with my last setup, is killing you. I'd recommend following tj benders advice to me and either freeze it, or delete it all together and try one of his suggestions for a replacement.
Also, we're you charging at any point during that cycle, running at 384 for over 3 hours suggests to me that you had either charged for a while, or ya got an app going crazy. That is, unless your screen on time correlation is similar. Without the screen shots Illnevertell asked for, I can't really tell much more.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. Don't let your pants get wet and use that search button.
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FYI, if you zip your dump, I will not look at it.
AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
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My apologies for not having followed thread rules on my prior post. I had just come from another battery thread that actually wanted BBS in zip form as the only post.
My prior BBS dump showed that my culprit wakelock was Suspend_Backoff. Searching I found the following thread:
productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/rT0ewNsBx18/0_RqLGBQr70J
I unchecked "Enable Tilt Scrolling" in Google Chrome settings and recharged my battery to 100%.
I then left it on idle all night just like it had been when I generated the last BBS file dump.
As you can see the results are drastically improved. Went from losing 65% of battery in 5 1/2 hours to losing 25% in 9 hours. Also went from 5% deep sleep to 94%!
Still not pefect but definitely a significant improvement. Thanks for the great thread!
Spectre one thing is network location I would turn that off until you need it also that giant cliff dropoff I'm assuming was a reboot of sorts that went uncaught I know that for me I don't get reboots on jb I go to recovery and clear my caches first thing then I make sure to close every app as I'm done using it as far as bbs I'll leave that to tj as he is a wakelock god at this point lol
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AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
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Google Maps, basically, is the answer. It's polling NetworkLocationLocator pretty constantly. If you turn location services off, you'll help yourself tremendously. I still recommend uninstalling Maps (usual disclaimer about uninstalling system processes) and using an alternate app like Mapquest, OSMAnd and/or Waze to clean up all of those Maps-generated alarms.
Beyond that, HD Widgets is definitely keeping you awake some, so you might want to change the refresh time on that. That being said, I can't imagine HD Widgets is doing too much damage to your battery life or people wouldn't use it.
Post up another BBS dump if you get a chance. Also, BBS dumps are a great way to tell if you've randomly rebooted (which, yeah, can chew through a ton of battery) because they'll differ from the "up-time" shown by your battery screen. Also, if you set your phone down at 9:00 PM and wake up at 7:00 AM, but your BBS dump says it's only been five hours since boot, you know you've got some random rebooting going on.
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Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.
I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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good job man i love it most def legit
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good job man i love it most def legit
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Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!
Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)
Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
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Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
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I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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Marcus Ryan said:
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
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I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!
I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
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Any advise?
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I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
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Any one with same experiences?
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I already tried with about 3-4 factory reset, deleting battery stats with battery calibrator and clock work mod.
Still horrible
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I get 12-16+ hours heavy use
I'm in a 3g only area so I'm guessing people that live in a 4g network see worse battery drain.... I'd honestly stop all synching and do a full charge with battery wipe
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I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.
lol yeah, it's pretty funny how all T-Mobile has to do is put a "4G" icon in your notification bar and people think the phone is running on a different network. The only thing that's different than, say, a N1, is that the G2x has a higher top end. Wireless companies have really effed everyone in the head with this 3G/4G BS.
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I don't think 3G/4G makes a difference on battery usage. It's HSPA vs HSPS+, both are 3G, just one is a bit faster. It's not like Verizon where you have 3G and LTE 4G, and one sucks up more juice than the other.
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i just guessed
but this device is know for having driver issues/mega bloatware running unless frozen or removed
and its a android phone... its not going to have a lot of battery left after powering all the bull spit that is running on it/screen/tethering/gps/mms & texting let alone all the other stuff people do with this phone....
talk to tmobile maybe you can get a new battery sent after saying yours is bogusly sucking.....
other than that wait for the drivers to be fixed.... a stable rom like BIONIX that krylon is baking in the oven and a UV/OC kernel MorFic is putting in the steamer as well....
its been less than 20 days this phone obviously has some issue's since LAUNCH
but to just give up like some people are doing and going to the HTC crapsation with 3.0 sense and a locked (not encrypted thank god) bootloader that will most likely have some issues as well is just flat out idiotic....
(i dont mean people dumping the phone are stupid... just expecting too much out of a 2 week old phone)
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I know there is a bunch of threads about this but I am considering about a replacement at this point.
My battery is draining pretty fast doing same task as with my Galaxy S 4G. Web, few games, texts, few calls.
My battery life is around 5-9 hours and gotta recharge twice a day at this point. I though it would get better with time, had the phone since launch day.
What are your experiences?
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all battery's like that....(hd2, nexus s, nexus one, g2x)
My battery goes from full to 99% in about 6 hours when I sleep and wake up. The phone is not turned off btw. I am now using "Juice Defender Ultimate". Paid $3 and change when you get the free version and upgrade it from that free app (otherwise I think it is around $6). I have it at the "extreme" profile which shuts all wifi and data. I disable it and then turn on either wifi or data when I need to use it (Use Switchpro to toggle on and off easily from my home screen). I also the free Advanced Task Killer with only ATK and Juice Defender running. In 12 hours of using the phone a few times, texts, and even surfing the web, and watching 20 mins of video I still have about 80%. It makes a big difference.
I just make sure to use my ATK before I turn the screen off on my phone.
Oh yeah I also rooted my phone and removed all bloatware.
Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.
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Well, when I had a G2x, it wasn't too bad at the start, but after I tried the HDMI output, the battery life went to hell in a heartbeat, i.e. full to dead within 8 hours with no network connectivity, and the phone always using the battery even when off. I think the HDMI output got shorted somehow to always on, and thus never stopped drawing power for nothing. Besides, my G2 was never anywhere near as bad as the G2x in power usage, even back at stock unrooted Froyo, so to give a blanket statement of "all Android phones suck down batteries like nothing" is simply an over-generalization.
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im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves
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im not saying all android phones batteries suck..... but take into consideration what these phones are doing.... and you cant really compare the G2x to any other android phone except the Atrix and o2X because its a dual core...... so comparing it to a galaxy s 4G or a nexus s isnt really giving this phone the credit it deserves
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I will try once again and see hoe much it last before it is down to 10%. Wiped battery stats last night and realized that i had unfreeze my account. So i just froze it again and recharged the phone.
Don't get me wrong though i really like this phone alot better than my other two smartphones.
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All:
I've always had Motorola Droid phones. They have excellent battery out of the box, but I truly bumped it up with a few steps.
First off if I buy a phone that has GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth, etc. I plan to keep those functions ON and running ALL THE TIME as I don't want to get in my car and say, ohh yeah let me renable bluetooth etc. No, that's now how I operate. So all the tips below greatly extended battery life without disabling functionality. I do however disable autostarting of apps like Skype, Fring, and Qik. I mean let's face it how often is someone video calling you randomly?
This phones are turning into computers, think about how long it takes to install windows, load all your applications, configure and tweak your settings, register your software etc etc. But just like the more apps you install in Windows the more sh1t wants to autostart when you boot into Windows and load up your task tray (taking resources) is the same way the phones are working.
I recently returned a G2X, not for battery life but for other reasons. I actually was able to improve the battery life using the methods below.
First off, everyone always talks about a task killer. This is a must have. BUUUUT! You have to use it properly and this isn't the main thing that will help you save your battery.
Another must have but NEVER talked about app is AUTOSTARTS. **Root Required**
Autostarts let's you disable items that always enable themselves on certain actions. For example, why does an app you killed relaunch itself randomly? Why does it load on start up? Well autostarts let's you see all apps set to load on startup, also when certain criteria is met. For example, some apps are set to start on "click" of a button for example.
Autostarts let's you disable those apps from EVER starting unless you specifically start it. Let's face it, most apps we download only need to be used when we launch it.
Task killer let's you kill unnecessary apps running in the background, or an app you're down with that you want to kill versus it running in the background using CPU cycles and battery life.
THE KEY IS, YOU MUST NOT KILL OR DISABLE A SYSTEM SERVICE. Most system services are obvious GMAIL, CORP EMAIL, BLUETOOTH SERVICE, WIFI SVC, GOOGLE SERVICES, AT&T/VERIZON/T-Mobile/SPRINT (etc) SERVICES (with the exception of bloatware services).
Task killer will let you see what's running, and place certain items on the IGNORE list so you don't accidentally disable it in the future. Then you need to set your options in task killer to HIDE IGNORED items to further take it from your view.
Those are the first steps. I don't know why AUTOSTARTS isn't more popular. For you computer geeks, it's like MSCONFIG in windows where you disable services that load automatically for no reason.
Also believe it or not WIFI seems to use much less power than AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint's 4G network. And let's face it, neither of the aforementioned carriers are really giving us much with their 4G. Wifi still beats them in speeds, and of course Verizon LTE sh1ts on them. So keep your WIFI on when in an WIFI area like home, work, etc. You'd be amazed at just how much battery life that alone can save.
Next, I followed the steps below taken from another thread started by spencersir2, many of the steps I had never done before on previous phones, but I did on a G2X and Atrix and it actually did help even further. I only listed the steps I used that helped, he recommended installing a lot of other software that in my opinion only adds to the problem.
All the steps work for any Android phone, but some of the steps are specific to T-Mobile (i.e. wifi calling option)
Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
(Root Needed) Set CPUand it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. I'm still skeptical if this helped but it can't hurt. Because I did everything at once, I didn't individually test this to see if it made a difference. It doesn't hurt so just do it.
Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery. - TRY AND SEE IF THIS HELPS, I THINK IT DOES HELP THE G2X NOT SURE IF IT HELPS OTHER ANDROID PHONES
T-Mobile specific - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
RECAP:
- Root Phone
-Download SetCPU from market. G2X users, select NVIDIA Tegra 2 at launch of app. Other users select one best appropriate for your device. Create a profile that says SCREEN OFF MIN=216 MAX=216. You may need to adjust the max to wake phone up faster depending on your phone. You shouldn't need to bump the max up to more than 400 something. This only reduces CPU speed when screen is off. Helps with battery!
- Download Autostarts from market, look at all that's running under each column, disable anything you don't need to autostart
- Download Taskiller (it's the red guy, not the green one). Hide system services by long pressing on icon, then select IGNORE. Then go to options and say HIDE IGNORED ITEMS. This so you don't KILL an important system app. (Read above for details on what is a system app)
- Use WiFi whenever possible. Uses much less power than 4G. Not sure about 3G but 4G is a battery killer. If you have Wifi, use it. It's faster anyway.
- Change Wifi settings to never sleep (test for a day see if helps or not, if not change it back to default setting). It helped G2X not sure if it helps other Android phones.
- Disable Wifi Calling (T-Mobile only)
- Download battery calibration from market, not sure if it helps but it def didn't hurt anything. and it's very simple.
I've tried all the tricks listed before (freezing apps, doing the secret menu, etc), and still had TERRIBLE battery life. I tried installing an app (switch pro), and had a toggle switch for data on and off thinking it might help. It helped just slightly. What did work, was putting a 2g-4g toggle switch on, and it has made a night and day difference. This, and I used the battery calibration program a few times, and in clockwork. Normally, I wake up at 6:30am and by the time it's 4pm I was normally down to 35ish %. Now, I'm at around 85% when I leave work. I'm thinking it has to do with the 2g, but it doesn't make sense that when I toggled data off, I got terrible battery, and just switching to 2g makes that big of a difference. Either way, I'm SUPER happy with battery life now.
i really have to question people saying they get 20+ hours of battery life, i mean if i stop all sync, disconnect 4g and only use 2g, not use the internet, shut off wifi, no bluetooth and do all the tricks that people have suggested. I still don't get a full day's use. but what the H is the point of having a super phone that i can't use it's functions i might as well get a clam shell phone that lasts 3 days without charging. I really like this phone but at this point the battery life is killing me i have to take like 3 different chargers everywhere i go!!
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I don't see how you guys are still having battery problems. One a full charge, i'm able to get at least 12+ hrs with moderate to heavy use. Facebook and 3 email sync is set at 1 hr. About 100+ text and 10 emails a day. Wifi is on the whole time. Wifi calling as well. My screen brightness is set to auto. GPS is also always on.
I have to admit, the first few days, the battery life was about the same as my hd2 running android, but its gotten better now and its amazing.
Solution: buy a new battery.
I was on GB and had amazing battery life!
Just flashed AOKP milestone 6 and I can can't watch
The battery drain.
I've read forums and not much help.
I DL better battery but don't really know how to use.
I tried formatting battery stats.
Any solutions?
I am having the same issue. I am going yo try cMIUI. what are you getting for battery life?
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Are y'all sure it's not just because you're doing lots of stuff with your phone right now, having just flashed a new ROM?
If it's an extreme amount of battery drain, it might be some leftovers from whatever you had last. You could try a factory reset and then see how stock AOKP handles battery drain.
I know I don't get battery life as good as I did with Octane, but a big part of that is because I've been flashing the new AOKP builds every couple of days, so things don't get a chance to settle down. (Granted, battery life still isn't as good as when I just flashed Octane.)
There is tons of things regarding this very issue in the AOKP q & a thread. Please use the search this thread button in that thread. Ive typed a response atleast four times today. And atleast four yesterday and more the day before and the day before that. NOt trying to be a ****, but Im tired of typing and responding. If you cant be bothered to read the thread or search I cant be bothered to respond anymore.
Not sure for sure.
But I get 5-6 hours on full charge with medium use(text. Instagram. Web.)
How can I get exact info?
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
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Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
First of I dont have battery issues at all with AOKP I am a User a very grateful user (thx 2 our devs). Just factory reset, after that wipe cache, system, everything except your sd card of course) and the flash your rom. Its really a matter of re-assuring everything is wiped. Also leave your phone alone for awhile I left mine around 2 hrs alone, while the rom settles.
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Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
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Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
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Go to the Gremlin Remover dev thread, and try steps 1-3. If you are STILL having exaggerated battery loss, try using gremlin remover it'self. If you still have problems, after making it back to your preferred rom, just put the phone down for a while.
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You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Some of us are getting good-very good battery life, and some of us are not - using the same exact ROM. I don't know what that tells you, but what it tells me is that it *is* likely to be a user issue.
People complain about battery life, but they hardly ever talk about the total time they are using it (including fiddling around with it), what programs they have used or have installed, and how they are restoring after they flash (i.e., if there is a chance they are bringing along bad stuff from a previous incarnation of the phone). More information about these things and - yes - doing tedious things like the process of elimination might be enlightening here.
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I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
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Ya know when I first came here I said something similar. But Ive kept up with these threads now and I know for a fact battery life issues have been discussed to a point that the devs are ready to pack up and leave. Nobody wants to read or even search. Instead the battery life issues are blamed on the shotty coding of the people building these roms. If you are getting bad battery life it is plain and simple a user error. Unless you can provide logs stating otherwise then just drop it try what is being suggested or go back to stock roms. Install all the apps you need to customize the phone like it is on the ics variants and then report back here. I garandamntee you will have ****ty battery life.
These custom roms have so much stuff added to them that is hard coded in for customization that its not going to have super battery life like a unbloated stock rom. But you cant expect it to. A good comparision was made earlier in another thread. Would you expect to get 8 hours out of a laptop battery?
I always tell people to make sure to completely drain the battery....all the way until it shuts off, because mine will sometimes stay at 1% for nearly 2 hours.
Seems like it doesn't know its own scale until you do that a few times.
Also never ever ever restart this phone while having it plugged in or turn it on while plugged in.
Let me give you the scenario, it will be charging let's say around 50% and then after restart while plugged in right around 75-80% and that little act took me a long time to recalibrate my battery and I'm not talking about deleting the battery stats, I don't delete battery stats anymore at all (read an article from Google saying its pointless)
All that said I'm a very heavy user, and I like a bright screen and I'm getting (what I would consider) good battery life. But I have a 3500mah so its never too bad for me
Hope this helps someone
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well me too experiencing super fast battery drain
i have flashed aokp milestone latest build by wiping factory reset.
also allowed to sit the phone for 1o mins
my wifi,bluetooth,gps remains off all the time, also screen brightness is at its lowest.
on moderate texting the phone wont last more then 4 hours
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I'm on AOKP, and my battery life is GREAT. There are plenty of steps and tips mentioned here to find out what your battery problem is.
I would like to see screen shots of the battery usage of people that have crappy battery.
From home hit menu>settings>scroll down a bit to battery.
Take two screenshots one of the initial screen, then touch the graph at the top and take one of that screen.
I keep hearing battery life is horrible I only get 4 hours, please fix this, hows battery life..blah blah blah battery. Yet nobody will drop usage stats, logs of a days use, offer anything but i use my phone moderately. I call bull**** on that, How many texts do you get/send in a day? How long are you on the phone making calls? Do you live in a poor service area? Give some info.
On a average day I get about 50 texts, might make a 20 minute call, use tapatalk a half dozen times, and use tweetcaster and flipboard a dozen times. I can get 12-15 hours out of a full charge. To me that is light to moderate use. I get crappy data where Im at right now so Im on wifi A LOT. When Im actually using t-mo data more I can get closer to 18 hours out of a charge
People if your having problems with battery life stop rebooting the phone a hundred times a day. Stop shutting off all the radios thinking it will help. use the dang phone like it was meant to be used. None of the code is optimized for people to shut radios off and turn the phone into a dumbphone. You are making it worse by shutting these things down and turning them back on. It takes power to properly shut off bt, wifi, data. Next time you do watch the radio will not just instantly shut down. It has to power off all the service that is using it and then power down. Otherwise you would be here *****ing about tons of force closes.
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
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I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
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^ THIS
I usually get 14-17 hrs doing the same. No battery issues. If you leave data/wifi on all day and are constantly checking email, Twitter, and Facebook what do you expect? Battery is fine.
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How much time do you spend on "screen"?
My phone usually drains 10% each 5hours of sleeping (air plane mode). Is that normal? I can get around 3hours of web surfing,which is less than it was on SCOM (4hours).
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Close to a day of battery , I turn on data when I want. Poor service area, my only issue is it stays awake more, but all functions work
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First off, yes I realize that complaints about the Skyrocket battery are very common, and coming from a Nexus One I'm no stranger to the nightly charging, but I feel like my phone may have a real issue with proper battery management. For example, I'm looking at my phone now. It's been on for 4hrs 43 mins and is down to 73%. Screen is 61% usage and then the typical other stuff below it. For the record the screen has been on for MAYBE 20 minutes total for answering texts and checking Facebook/twitter updates. I should also note that I am using the Galaxy Nexus extended battery. I feel like every time I turn on the screen I lose 1-3% of battery. For the record, I've tried multiple Roms (Stock, SuperStock, NexusMod, Sky ICS, and running CM9 RC2 currently) and multiple radios (running RUXLF3 currently). I've tried underclocking my CPU with SetCPU and that doesn't seem to help. I just installed JuiceDefender but I don't see that doing much as I can't really turn off data with the screen off because I'm connected to my company's email (refreshes automatically every hour.) The only stuff I get pushed to me is Gmail (and I consider a very busy email day to be 5 emails in a given day). I don't get Twitter or Facebook updates sent to my phone. And yes I have Wifi/BT/GPS off as I don't need them. I'm not in an LTE market and thus am using HSPA+. However, when I WAS in an LTE area (NYC and Atlanta) the battery drain was almost to the point where I almost hoped I DIDN'T get LTE in my market if it meant my battery life would be as atrocious as it was.
Within about a 8 hour period it is not uncommon at all to be around 50%, sometimes dipping as low as 30% depending on how boring my day is thus resulting in more FB/Twitter checks than normal. I know that the Galaxy Extended battery isn't going to give me life on par with a Razr MAXX, but the difference I've noticed between the OEM and Extended seem almost negligible. Is this considered "Typical" performance or am I doing something wrong either software/hardware wise? Could I just have a bad phone and try and get it replaced since it's still under 1 year warranty? I'd prefer to not have to do that unless necessary as it means I need to back everything up and then wipe out my data and go back to Stock and reset the flash counter and then do the ICS update via Kies (because I know AT&T will fire back and say "Try out ICS first and then return if that doesn't work!") and all that fun junk.
Thanks
Sounds about right to me. Just turn off data when you aren't using it is all I can say.
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My thoughts:
1. 50% in 8 hours of moderate use is, imo, not terribly unusual for a Skyrocket without a ton of fine-tuning done to it. The Skyrocket, in general, is not a marathon-runner of a phone. It's better for short sprints, although you can (as I have) make it a marathon runner with extensive tweaking.
2. I haven't tried all the ROMs you've listed, but I can tell you that CM9 on my Captivate and my Skyrocket had severe wakelock issues. My Skyrocket's battery would drain off at twice my usual rate when I tried it, and the ROM prevented my Captivate from sleeping at all (I was lucky to get six hours out of a charge--at best). It's not my favorite ROM for battery life. SkyICS, in my experience, is the absolute best battery life of any ROM.
3. Get rid of JuiceDefender and SetCPU. JuiceDefender works primarily by preventing applications from doing what they want to do. Common sense dictates that when a computer program is unable to do an assigned task because its primary method of doing so is blocked, it will try something else. That "something else" may or may not result in a series of wakelocks. SetCPU is designed for single-core processors. The changes it makes will usually affect only one of the two cores in a Skyrocket's CPU, causing the second core to do weird things. I do, however, recommend using System Tuner. All you need is the free version, because all you need to do is lower your min to 192 and change your governor to ondemand or conservative (I use conservative). You're not forcing new profiles onto the phone's CPU, just giving it a little "attitude adjustment".
4. Get rid of the Facebook app and replace it with Friendcaster. Like, now. The Facebook app uses battery and data even if you tell it not to.
5. Have you downloaded BBS? If so, are you using it to track down your wakelocks? I've got a post inside of the above thread that explains how to do so and, well, explains just about everything else I've already said here or would say if I continued. So, yeah, just read that thread. It's not terribly long, and there's a ton of great info in the OP and throughout.
For reference, I'm a light-to-moderate user of my phone, not as heavy as you by any means. I'm not in an LTE area, which helps. That being said, with the Nexus extended battery, I'm now at 2 days, 5 hours and still at 23% charge. I used the phone very heavily while traveling a couple of days ago, starting at 7:00 AM Eastern at 100% and ending at 11:45 PM Mountain with 11% left, 4h45m of screen-on time.
I just find that odd since I find people giving great stories with the SKY ICS and others in terms of battery life. Ironically, I've found that SKY gave me some of the WORST battery life which really made me feel like a dolt. Here's the latest battery stats attached. Perhaps my view of things is skewed though because my day starts at 6am and I'm at work by 7 (with my phone typically turned on at 6:30) so I still have a good portion of my day left by the time I get home and my phone is typically less than 50% by that time. It's weird to know you have about 7 hours left in your day and your phone is saying like 40% power left.
What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
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Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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well, there are hacks floating around with otter box to fit the hump back. I'm sure you will find other cases from ebay that can be hacked this way too. I don't have this problem since Ii use my phone naked because i only got it for $10.00 and my other line is due for upgrade soon. anyhow, it really depends mostly on what you would rather have, battery life or case. It could be the phone but most likely AT&T will tell you that smartphones consume a lot of energy and if you are not within that 30 day period anymore they'll probably give you a refurbished one and you might end up with a more dud one than the one you already have.
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I try to keep my phone out of my pocket because I don't think cell waves near my "area" is a good combination. When I am at work it's on my desk for about 7 hours, and then at home I usually leave it out (at a high elevation away from my daughter of course.)
Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
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That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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No but the 4 buttons do as it is a CM9 feature. Honestly though they aren't on for very long as I usually am near my phone and notice such things rather quickly.
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That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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I don't use the volume rocker for waking just FYI.
I got BBS. It looks informative but I'm not really sure what I should be focusing in terms of statistics and what, if anything should jump out as problematic. Any tips?
I have tried at least 4 different radios but I haven't noticed any major difference between them.
I just saw that CM9 has now been officially released in stable form. Maybe that will help. I'll try that ROM now. I hope CM9 is not the issue, as I've always been a "Vanilla Android" kind of guy and I really like how ICS is designed. I never liked how the other ROMS still had touches of Touchwiz in them. I especially don't like how it mimics iOS styles so much. I mean, I'm definitely pro-Samsung in the major lawsuit, but Apple has more than a few valid points in their argument. Having similar icons and a SMS theme that basically mimics iOS isn't going to help Sammy in the big lawsuit.
True, it's a well-known problem. You may find some rom with better battery life (here is the rom I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854). You can also download some apps that save your battery. Try to turn off GPS, Wi-fi and data when you're not using, and also do not keep the brightness of your screen too high. I hope these would be helpful to you.
Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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The thing is though is that I don't consider myself to be a moderate to heavy user, but more of a light to moderate. As I said, on a typical day I answer maybe 5-15 text messages, check Facebook/Twitter a handful of times, almost never get emails sent as I have no life, do almost no web browsing, and maybe take a phone call or 2. I very rarely play games and even less often stream media. My gmail is push but that's about it. I also use Touchdown for Exchange but that queries only once an hour. Am I still being unrealistic with my expectations on my battery?
Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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I don't think it's a battery issue. I've used the OEM and the Galaxy Nexus extended battery and both are delivering similar performance (although GN is slightly better obviously.) And as I mentioned, when I was in an LTE area my battery was getting beat down like Homer Simpson in a fight with Drederick Tatum.
Would it be advisable to try a FULL wipe of my phone? When I was installing CM9 today I saw the option to format EMMC. Should I try doing that or wiping other stuff or would that just do more bad than good? Should I try wiping that and/or the SD card?
This is a little bit of a boast, I guess you could say... but also educational in a way.
This is my most recent battery life. I found that when I posted my screenshots, people think they are faked in some way. (Posted it here and other GS3 forums) They are not. I am using the stock battery my phone came with. NOT an extended battery. And you can see from the battery graph that the phone was not charged. I guess this is to show that you can use your phone heavily, and still get amazing battery life.
I am using the stock jellybean leak. Not rooted or unlocked.
This is everything I have done to get good battery life.
-I turned the LED touch lights off (I don't like them, they're so bright)
-I have all vibrations off. My phone does not ever vibrate.
-I have power save on.
-I have S-Voice "wake command" off.
-I have motion control disabled.
-I am almost always on wifi (work & home)
-When I am on wifi, I turn mobile data off.
-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-I have my sync OFF. I check my email manually.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
-Always have a dark background, if possible.
Thats everything. Mind you, I didn't make or receive any phone calls on this cycle. But I did use my phone, as you can see I didn't just let it sit around. Device idle was like 3%?
Anyone else a "hypermiler" like me? I don't get this much screen time every time, it ranges from 5-7. I've gotten more than this and I've gotten less.
Hope this can help even if it's only a little.
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-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Clearing the ram too much actually drains the battery more because certain apps will have to auto start again every time you clear memory
-Keeping it at around 0-30% all the time should save you more.(I can still see my screen during the day at 30%)
-That doesn't do anything.
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-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Are there no A/C outlets in your bedroom?
-What the previous guy said, this is a stupid thing to do. Java was designed around efficient use of resources, and restarting running apps (which would happen, unless you have them removed entirely) would use more processing power than you had saved by not having the tasks running in the first place.
-Using Auto is causing the system to periodically poll the light sensor, draining more battery than used otherwise.
-This is how you kill Li-Ion batteries (one way, at least). The whole spiel about discharging fully, THEN charging fully or the battery will have some sort of "memory" of capacity less than actual capacity is how Ni-Cad rechargables work, not Li-Ions. Li-Ion batteries are the opposite. For superior life, keep them topped up as much as possible. FYI
I hope THIS helped, more than a little.
There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year. I do know that these batteries don't have the memory problem, I just can't bring myself to not fully discharge or charge. I have mild OCD, for real. Little things like that brother me
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year.
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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I'm glad you said it, so that I didn't have to. :silly:
I read your post and the first thing that came to mind was, "there is medication for that, you know.":laugh:
Here's my .02. My battery never lasts that long. Not even close. I'd feel disappointed if it did. I bought my gsiii with the intent of gobbling up unlimited data and using the oc'd processor to run apps till the phone is so hot I have to set it down. I've burned up almost 6gigs of data since the 7th. I get around 4 hours of screen on time most generally. I also throw it on a charger whenever I have the chance. My battery rarely dips below 50%. Like others have said, full discharge cycles are for ni-cad batteries. Li-ion doesn't benefit. Good battery life for me is the lg flip phone we have on a diff line that lasts a couple weeks.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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Okay, okay, as long as you admit it... I'll stop being a snarky jerk. I'm totally the same way though. Perfectionist to the core.
It's a very bad idea to let the battery go down to 1% regularly, lithium batteries should be charged more often for better life and more cycles
Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Well I mean. You don't have to believe me. I mean I have nothing to offer but my word. I do use auto brightness. But because of the suggestion I'll probably set it to manual and see what that does.
I got 7 hours screen on time with the stock battery. The battery says "3.8 v li-ion battery"
I've gotten more than this is the past but I've also gotten less.
Like I said you don't have to believe me but... I'm using the stock battery.
And to the poster who mentioned to get an iPhone - I have one for my business line
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battery statistics are poor statistics in general. there are too many variables. luckily we have removeable batteries if we need mroe juice.
heres some postings to add to the mix
put my phone through the paces with fantasy football.
held up pretty well. stock battery mind you. on pace for nearly 8 hrs of on screen time. This isnt with typical use though... With typical use I can get 20hrs and 5-6 hrs of screen time. I thought anywhere from 4-6 hours of on screen time was what people were suppposed to be getting.
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Then I shouldn't use the word "usage". I meant 7 hours screen on time. Sometimes I got 8 or more, but only use it continuously after charging, no idle time.
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josh995 said:
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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It's not pointless to me. As I said a few posts before... I have OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder. Things like this affect me. I know that being connected to Wi-Fi that data is not connected, but in my brain, it's as if something is telling me that because my data toggle is on, it's running.
I really can't help it.
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