I was on GB and had amazing battery life!
Just flashed AOKP milestone 6 and I can can't watch
The battery drain.
I've read forums and not much help.
I DL better battery but don't really know how to use.
I tried formatting battery stats.
Any solutions?
I am having the same issue. I am going yo try cMIUI. what are you getting for battery life?
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
Are y'all sure it's not just because you're doing lots of stuff with your phone right now, having just flashed a new ROM?
If it's an extreme amount of battery drain, it might be some leftovers from whatever you had last. You could try a factory reset and then see how stock AOKP handles battery drain.
I know I don't get battery life as good as I did with Octane, but a big part of that is because I've been flashing the new AOKP builds every couple of days, so things don't get a chance to settle down. (Granted, battery life still isn't as good as when I just flashed Octane.)
There is tons of things regarding this very issue in the AOKP q & a thread. Please use the search this thread button in that thread. Ive typed a response atleast four times today. And atleast four yesterday and more the day before and the day before that. NOt trying to be a ****, but Im tired of typing and responding. If you cant be bothered to read the thread or search I cant be bothered to respond anymore.
Not sure for sure.
But I get 5-6 hours on full charge with medium use(text. Instagram. Web.)
How can I get exact info?
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
First of I dont have battery issues at all with AOKP I am a User a very grateful user (thx 2 our devs). Just factory reset, after that wipe cache, system, everything except your sd card of course) and the flash your rom. Its really a matter of re-assuring everything is wiped. Also leave your phone alone for awhile I left mine around 2 hrs alone, while the rom settles.
jeffsf said:
Read the AOKP Q&A, yes, the whole thing
Read the OP's instructions on the AOKP dev thread
Read the thread on Bettter Battery Stats
Listen to what people say about battery use
Think about what you have done and what to try next
Do
Rinse
Repeat
Ask yourself "Why am I flashing ICS at all?" -- ICS in the SGS4G is still very much in development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to the Gremlin Remover dev thread, and try steps 1-3. If you are STILL having exaggerated battery loss, try using gremlin remover it'self. If you still have problems, after making it back to your preferred rom, just put the phone down for a while.
adobrakic said:
You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some of us are getting good-very good battery life, and some of us are not - using the same exact ROM. I don't know what that tells you, but what it tells me is that it *is* likely to be a user issue.
People complain about battery life, but they hardly ever talk about the total time they are using it (including fiddling around with it), what programs they have used or have installed, and how they are restoring after they flash (i.e., if there is a chance they are bringing along bad stuff from a previous incarnation of the phone). More information about these things and - yes - doing tedious things like the process of elimination might be enlightening here.
adobrakic said:
I don't think you realize how unreasonable it is to ask someone to read that entire Q&A. I've followed the thread from its beginning, and there's no real solution to the battery issue being described here. You'd only be wasting everyone's time who took your advice. I've also read all of OP's instructions in the AOKP dev thread, and have even tried the gremlin remover prior to flashing AOKP. This does not solve the battery issue. You're seeming to imply that the battery issue is the user's fault, and I think that's not even remotely close to the truth. I've done multiple flashes, each time trying something different, to see if I did anything to cause the horrible battery in AOKP, and they all concluded the same way. With that said, we need to actually try to fix this, instead of sending people in circles and pretending to fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya know when I first came here I said something similar. But Ive kept up with these threads now and I know for a fact battery life issues have been discussed to a point that the devs are ready to pack up and leave. Nobody wants to read or even search. Instead the battery life issues are blamed on the shotty coding of the people building these roms. If you are getting bad battery life it is plain and simple a user error. Unless you can provide logs stating otherwise then just drop it try what is being suggested or go back to stock roms. Install all the apps you need to customize the phone like it is on the ics variants and then report back here. I garandamntee you will have ****ty battery life.
These custom roms have so much stuff added to them that is hard coded in for customization that its not going to have super battery life like a unbloated stock rom. But you cant expect it to. A good comparision was made earlier in another thread. Would you expect to get 8 hours out of a laptop battery?
I always tell people to make sure to completely drain the battery....all the way until it shuts off, because mine will sometimes stay at 1% for nearly 2 hours.
Seems like it doesn't know its own scale until you do that a few times.
Also never ever ever restart this phone while having it plugged in or turn it on while plugged in.
Let me give you the scenario, it will be charging let's say around 50% and then after restart while plugged in right around 75-80% and that little act took me a long time to recalibrate my battery and I'm not talking about deleting the battery stats, I don't delete battery stats anymore at all (read an article from Google saying its pointless)
All that said I'm a very heavy user, and I like a bright screen and I'm getting (what I would consider) good battery life. But I have a 3500mah so its never too bad for me
Hope this helps someone
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
well me too experiencing super fast battery drain
i have flashed aokp milestone latest build by wiping factory reset.
also allowed to sit the phone for 1o mins
my wifi,bluetooth,gps remains off all the time, also screen brightness is at its lowest.
on moderate texting the phone wont last more then 4 hours
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
I'm on aokp
I'm on AOKP, and my battery life is GREAT. There are plenty of steps and tips mentioned here to find out what your battery problem is.
I would like to see screen shots of the battery usage of people that have crappy battery.
From home hit menu>settings>scroll down a bit to battery.
Take two screenshots one of the initial screen, then touch the graph at the top and take one of that screen.
I keep hearing battery life is horrible I only get 4 hours, please fix this, hows battery life..blah blah blah battery. Yet nobody will drop usage stats, logs of a days use, offer anything but i use my phone moderately. I call bull**** on that, How many texts do you get/send in a day? How long are you on the phone making calls? Do you live in a poor service area? Give some info.
On a average day I get about 50 texts, might make a 20 minute call, use tapatalk a half dozen times, and use tweetcaster and flipboard a dozen times. I can get 12-15 hours out of a full charge. To me that is light to moderate use. I get crappy data where Im at right now so Im on wifi A LOT. When Im actually using t-mo data more I can get closer to 18 hours out of a charge
People if your having problems with battery life stop rebooting the phone a hundred times a day. Stop shutting off all the radios thinking it will help. use the dang phone like it was meant to be used. None of the code is optimized for people to shut radios off and turn the phone into a dumbphone. You are making it worse by shutting these things down and turning them back on. It takes power to properly shut off bt, wifi, data. Next time you do watch the radio will not just instantly shut down. It has to power off all the service that is using it and then power down. Otherwise you would be here *****ing about tons of force closes.
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
blazen2000 said:
I get about 17hours on my phone and i have a stock battery. I use all the extras PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEV like turn off wifi/date off or to 2g while phone screen is off. Auto bright and all the extras.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^ THIS
I usually get 14-17 hrs doing the same. No battery issues. If you leave data/wifi on all day and are constantly checking email, Twitter, and Facebook what do you expect? Battery is fine.
Shortbus-Driver said:
I'm on aokp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much time do you spend on "screen"?
My phone usually drains 10% each 5hours of sleeping (air plane mode). Is that normal? I can get around 3hours of web surfing,which is less than it was on SCOM (4hours).
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
Close to a day of battery , I turn on data when I want. Poor service area, my only issue is it stays awake more, but all functions work
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
Related
Maybe this is due to my lack of experience, but maybe not. It seems like every time I put a new ROM on my phone it goes to hell in about a month. I'm not a technician but I can follow directions for installation, patches, etc. So far I have had 0 long term success in installing a ROM that ends up being any better than stock after 30-60 days.
For example, I've had issues with battery drain, random booting while the phone is powered off, redraw issues, serious lag, data connectivity issues, and a few other things. It seems like its always something.
The only phones I've toyed with are my old Eris and my Charge. Is this a phone issue, noob issue, or is this par for the course? If it is par I'll end up back at stock and have mediocre performance rather than have a buzz saw that ends up needing constant tweaking and maintenance.
Btw this isn't a knock on developers. I appreciate them sharing all their hard work. I just want to know if everybody else goes through this or am I holding a bag of stupid.
Just rooting does nothing more than give you superuser access. It doesn't even do anything that uses the root specifically. Different roms do different things, but nothing to use battery...mostly they take things out rather than put things in.
Best thing to do is look at BetterBatteryStats and track partial wakelocks. That will tell you what is waking up your system and if there's anything spiking it, you can deal with it. Most of what really drains battery on this phone, other than bad apps, is somewhat random, and it will affect non-rooted phones just as much as rooted.
Must be something you did, picking a good rom make a big different. In my case. I flashed tweakstock to my daughter's phone since the first day it released (with tweakstock kernel), and never, I repeat never have any issue, when tweakstock 1.4 released, this is the second time I touch her phone and up until now she hasn't have any issue. If you use eclipse rom, PBJ kernel, Imonsey kernel, you're going to have issue. They are not bad roms or kernels, but they do have bugs. This is my experience.
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
kvswim said:
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Moving to Q&A
buhohitr said:
Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
No i dont think its u...i have problems also.i jus made a post about my home/hard key...its always seems to b something after the next.but it looks like people find ways to deal and eventually conquer.also i appreciate wat the developers do.its alot of work and headaches.on top of posting and replying to many many people.its the roms that cause problems...constant tweaking and toying around...alot of times things jus need to b debugged a little it seems.but its all in the nature of what were all doing here.good luck to u
Sent from my Gummy Charged GBE 2.1 using XDA App
cnoevl21 said:
you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey. how about give the "battery saver" app by Antutu a try. This is one of the kind. It does not kill processes like others. It actually readjust cpu frequency during usage and put your phone in heavy deep sleep, after installed, let it run for 2 days, you will notice at least 3-4 hrs more during usage and 10+ if you let your phone sleep. I have test this app with wifi,4g,gps on 24/7 and I still have good battery life.
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
donkason said:
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you try to disable(freeze) SDM app and also Google service? May need to backup all your apps and do a factory/data reset, If not help, possible to re ODIN factory image (see pos # 5) since you have data drop issue. Some thing is mess up in your OS.
For betterbatterystats look at wakelock and see what process used the most.
If it died overnight then something is definitely eating your battery. Are you in a low signal environment? Go to settings, about phone, then battery usage. If anything besides display is taking more than around 5-10% (can be more if you use it a lot) then that's your main problem. If your cell standby is more than 25% it's the low signal that's killing the battery.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
Sent from my Tweaked Droid Charge using XDA App
ewh1292 said:
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
Sent from my Tweaked Droid Charge using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
shrike1978 said:
Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
Sent from my Tweaked Droid Charge using XDA App
donkason said:
Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To disable Google Service, go to settings -> location&security and uncheck Google service. Do not freeze Google framework. Also seems like your phone is not in deep sleep, please install "battery saver" by Antutu and let it works for 24 hrs, you should see huge different when your phone is sleeping. BTW what kernel are you using? If you're using PBJ kernel you can install "CPU tuner" to further keep your phone in deep sleep. I'm talking about 1% for 3 hrs sleeping.
I'm curious as to what Battery Saver actually does. The app's market page doesn't say. I'd be curious if it would interfere with my IMAP push email or SetCPU's overclock settings.
ewh1292 said:
I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
Sent from my Tweaked Droid Charge using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
shrike1978 said:
I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I believe that most of the time the procedure does nothing. I think there are times, though, that corrupt data gets into the battery stats. For instance, I had an app lock up my phone and force a hard boot. When the phone came back up, it showed 22% more battery than it had previously. I believe that bad data such as this can over time affect how Android reads your battery life. In that instance, I believe clearing battery stats would help. I don't think doing it just because a new ROM was flashed actually does anything, though.
Last night I made a backup, used the nullifier, flashed rooted 2.3.4, and everything went haywire. I had lost all my nandroids and all that. Ok so then I decided to put the phone back to factory stock and did the OTA update to 2.3.4, then rooted with superoneclick. I have an extended 3500mah battery that I calibrated this morning after a full charge. Everything was normal so far today (i was at around 70%) and restarted my phone for some reason or another and realized that when i do this the battery reads 100% again. I like accurate battery readings, anybody know how and why this might be happening?
More then likely from a poor quality after market battery. Battery "calibration" is a myth. Most phones will read any battery as 100% when it first boots. All of my phones do it even with stock batteries even my nexus.
I personally know how to wipe my own device and so should anyone who installs roms on their device. You shouldn't depend on a script to do that for you especially if you do not understand the functionality of that script. If something says "format" it means everything is gone. If it says formats all partitions that means all data on all partitions is gone. If your backups are in that partition then they are gone. Nothings going haywire it did what its supposed to do.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
My question was about the battery, an answer only about the battery would have been sufficient.
Battery is not poor quality. It consistently gives me 2 days of charge since December.
Calibrating my battery is something that I do because I like to have accurate readings. I know what calibration is supposed to do and what it doesn't do. I'm aware that it doesn't give the battery more juice.
I know how to flash a rom and I know what the scripts do. I know how to wipe and I know why it's necessary. I did nothing any differently than I've done countless times before. Sometimes things just don't work right. Not that any of this even matters because the question was about the battery readings behaving in a way they haven't before. The rest was only mentioned in case it had some bearing on the cause of the problem.
I guess it's back to not posting a word on here until I'm done being disgusted with the way users attempt to "help" one another. Ugh.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Are you using the stock kernel?
I think something about nvflashing has a weird impact on battery. I nvflashed the touch recovery a few days ago, and afterwards I was sure I had about 35% left, but battery read 80. I plugged it in and while it charged, the number kept going down till it met the actual battery reading (around 65%) then started charging back up.
e4e5nf3nc6 said:
My question was about the battery, an answer only about the battery would have been sufficient.
Battery is not poor quality. It consistently gives me 2 days of charge since December.
Calibrating my battery is something that I do because I like to have accurate readings. I know what calibration is supposed to do and what it doesn't do. I'm aware that it doesn't give the battery more juice.
I know how to flash a rom and I know what the scripts do. I know how to wipe and I know why it's necessary. I did nothing any differently than I've done countless times before. Sometimes things just don't work right. Not that any of this even matters because the question was about the battery readings behaving in a way they haven't before. The rest was only mentioned in case it had some bearing on the cause of the problem.
I guess it's back to not posting a word on here until I'm done being disgusted with the way users attempt to "help" one another. Ugh.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol well I answered with my thoughts and responses. If you don't want answers don't ask questions. And don't get butt-hurt when someone answers for you. Exactly why I don't usually answer questions in these threads. Just too many emos when you give a straight answer. If you can't handle educated answers don't ask uneducated questions....
Bottom line how does it read with the stock battery? Almost every extended battery I've seen is missing sensors. So yes I'd say those ate ALL poor quality
What is the brand of said battery?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
SmiLey497 said:
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
rygtuu said:
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
lumin30 said:
Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.
bhundven said:
Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn
ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
mike-y said:
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
Sent from my SGH-T959V using Tapatalk 2
Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
solrac1212 said:
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
Sent from my SGH-T959V using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
thomas.raines said:
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
side note:
I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
side note:
I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
bhundven said:
.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
HKSpeed said:
What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.
Ok guys I have prbassplayer's blessing on this thread and he feels it may work so lets keep this civil and make it a helpful and definitive thread to help any and all users get better battery life. From here on this will be the only thread on battery life all others in q&a and general will be reported and hopefully closed. it is open to people in the skyrocket section on any rom and kernel combo. There are rules and standards that any who wish for help on this thread.
Rules
All requests for help must be in this format as this will help in speedy and decent recommendations.
1.Rom & Kernel Combo
2.How long you have been on said combo ex. 3 days and number of cycles will help considerably too.
3.Screenshots
1.Battery Graph
2.Screen on time
3.Better Battery Stats info (If applicable but not required).
4.general usage info as in how do you use your phone give us details into what you do through the day.
You can not suggest another rom.
this thread will not be turned into a best rom thread it is to help others get the most out of their current setups you may suggest other kernels but if you suggest another rom i will report your post and it will be removed.
My hope is that this will cut down on tons of threads and give everyone a good place to get help please guys lets make this section awesome like it used to be.
I think u should also ad to the op (nrm ) a few simple guidelines or places/things they can go and independently research. Not spoon feeding mind u, just a starting point. here are a few examples that come to mind:
1) Underclocking/governors
2) Undervolting
3) Wakelocks (pre-established thread anyone?)
4) Droidwall/background data usage & sync
5) CPU Sleeper & alternatives
6) Auto brightness controls (cm9, lux, etc...)
7) Wifi as alternative
8) H+ instead of LTE
9) Modem/radio choice
10) Sleep/display time outs etc...
And MOST IMPORTANTLY, avoiding apps like Juice Defender
I'll look into adding as we go thanks for the ideas bro
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
teeg07 said:
I'll start, because I just got the best battery I've gotten to date yesterday. WOO!
Note: I used stock charger to charge the night before, although no wake locks, i always restart in the morning. Dont know if it helps... I feel like it does.
1. CM9 Stable, InstigatorX 5.4.5
2. installed 2 days ago-ish
3. see attached.
4. Forgot to get a screen on time screeny... was like 2 hours. light useage. auto brightness
5. badass governor, used the cwm script to get both cores to be governed. 1.72/192
6. LTE/Wifi all day, baby. Mostly wifi.
7. there was a slight period of charge when i moved over some music. wasnt more than ~10 minutes of being plugged into my laptop.
8. exchange email on 15 minute syncing periods. Turned off push, as i can deal with the 15 minutes between emails... BEST. BATTERY SAVER. EVER.
9. gps off. didnt use it at all. I missed the key screen shots... I know. I only have this because i was bragging to my friend who's got a s3 on verizon and a sucky battery.
couple phone calls, probably 30 texts. it was pretty light usage these days. Color me impressed.
OHH! i have the nexus extended battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This isn't to post your good setups it was to help people on their current setups that need help
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Great idea illnevertell! As usual
--
Sent from my Rocket! Running a Majick Rom
Not having bad battery life, but hey, it can always be better right!?!
First off, GREAT thread idea, it's a shame it hasn't really been utilized though. How about I start. I'm wondering a bit about how much battery I can save if I get rid of Google maps. Also, if you have any recommendations of a replacement for it if I do dump it. Even if I don't open the application the entire day, it is consistently in the top stats on my BBS reports. I'm not really sure of the effect it will have if I get rid of it though. I mean, if it is only going to get me another 40-60 minutes per charge, I don't know if it would be worth losing the convenient access to reliable maps.
Anyway, I thought I'd toss this out and see what everyone thinks.
I'm currently running Majicks Orthus One (quite happily I might add) and I've been on it for almost a week now. I generally don't use my phone too much during the weekdays while at work but, once I get home, the screen is generally on until I go to bed. On weekends, which is when I grabbed these screenies and BBS dumb, I am on WIFI most of the day, but I use my phone ALL DAY LONG even though I've got my laptop and rooted Kindle running CM10 sitting right next to me. LOL!
Other than the apps I've added (around 70 total), I've got it set up pretty much as if I just flashed it. By this, I mean that I haven't really done any battery tweaking. It's on badass gov by default, and I am utilizing the bln feature (I know it hates my battery, but I LOVE this feature). I get pretty good life usually (12-16 hours with 3-5 hours of screen on time), and I haven't really seen the media wake locks which are affecting others. Also, and I know I'm asking a ton (and maybe even being a bit of a battery miser considering I'm already getting decent time on my charges), but do you see anything else that should be a cause of alarm to me? Everything looks minuscule to me compared to Maps, but I know that there are many people who know much more than me when it comes to this stuff. So all thoughts are welcome.Without further adeau, here are some of my screen shots and BBS dump...
Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Great idea. I'll contribute as well.
I'm also on Orthus-One, and whatever kernel comes with. One change I made was to change the governor to Conservative. Not entirely sure what that does, but I thought I'd throw it out.
I've been on this ROM for 28ish hours, so today was day 1. I've rebooted a few times. Can't remember how many.
I don't know that I've done a whole lot to reduce battery usage. Today I was on wifi almost all day, but normally I fluctuate between H+ and LTE (LTE near work, H+ most of the drive home, wifi at home).
Brightness is set at a constant ~35% with auto brightness removed. I don't use my phone for anything other than answering calls in the car, so that suits me.
I don't play any games that would be battery intensive, and only watch videos (from sd) when it's plugged in. Rarely listen to music, but that's likely to change next week on vacation.
These shots were taken about 3 hours ago. There's been another hour and a quarter of screen on time since then. I used my phone a lot today, as you can see.
Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
Since it was mentioned above, this is all on a Standard battery.
Sent from my SGH-I727
bps119 said:
Thanks in advance! I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that. If you can do without a location service more often than not, I'd leave it and GPS off. I actually think network location is less useful than GPS--GPS doesn't use *that* much more battery, and it's precise. With network location, if a couple of wifi networks near you have "_nomap" appended to the end of their name, you're lost.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast. Personally, I don't think any of the "anti-virus" apps are worth the time it takes to download them. They sit there eating up battery, when really all you need to make sure your phone doesn't pick up a virus or malware is common sense. Only install apps from Play, Amazon and XDA (third-party markets will often put bootloaders and other bad stuff in their apps), don't click anything on shady-looking websites, and leave USB debugging off unless you need it.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook. It used a ton of network data for apparently only being active 28s (according to the PWL data). Do you have it set to use push notifications or refresh on a short schedule?
liquidzoo said:
Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the case I had off of my phone yesterday, and it doesn't seem to get anywhere near as hot. Probably a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not a coincidence at all. "Naked" phones run cooler than phones in a case. Shouldn't be by a ton (if it is, get a new case), but a case, naturally, restricts airflow, which allows more heat to build up. I had to stop using my Otterbox Defender for that reason--the phone was just getting too hot inside the case, and I was starting to be concerned.
T.J. Bender said:
That's actually not half bad battery life. I noticed a few things, though. One is the NetworkLocationLocator wakelock. Leaving network location on will chew away your battery like that.
The only other PWL I saw was Avast.
KWLs all look ok. BLN is murdering you, but if the feature's worth the battery sacrifice, more power to you.
Alarms look fine, but keep an eye on Facebook.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location. I was using it cause the wife is a bit of a worry wart and she heard a story from a friend that their husband was in a motorcycle accident not involving another car and wasn't found for about 12 hours cause he fell into a ditch off a country road. Now, she thinks that if one of us ever get into an accident, that latitude is going to save us. Lol! I get the theory behind it, but her iphone only updates it sporadically anyway so it's not really worth much. I unchecked all location services, and I'll just turn on gps when I need it and see how that treats me.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
BLN is a power monger, but I love being able to have that option so I deal with it.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
I appreciate you looking into this for me as you are pretty much the battery guru around here. I was a bit worried that no one was looking at this thread cause it wasn't really being utilized. I don't understand why, when everyone wants to open a thread for battery life, they don't seem to want to utilize the one sanctioned by our mod. But that seems to just be xda in general lately.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
bps119 said:
Yeah, after seeing maps eating up so much power, I changed it to not automatically update my location.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're willing to, freeze/uninstall Maps and use MapQuest and/or OSMAnd instead. Both eat up far less battery, and MapQuest has basically all the same features. I use Waze as well, but that's more for speed trap notifications than anything else.
Anti-virus is more for if I lose my phone. I like the remote wipe feature, as well as the Web and app firewall. Plus, it doubles as a security blanket for me lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just an FYI, you can have the Avast theft protection app (the one they tell you to give a custom name to) on your phone without the full Avast suite. Eats up almost no battery, and can be set to wipe upon X number of failed attempts to sign in.
FB is a pain in the butt in general, but I haven't found an app I like to use in its place so I've just dealt with it. I do have it set to push notifications, but I've read that you think it may be misbehaving even when it's not set to push data, so I may just dump it and try fast for Facebook or friendcaster for a bit to see if I can deal with one of those.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Friendcaster and Tweetcaster have both had great results for me. The Twitter app's biggest sin is a stray alarm that'll hold you awake for 10-15 seconds every so often. The Facebook app, though, is (I can only assume) downloading ad data and sending usage info back at set intervals, even if you have it set to refresh every X hours. I caught on when I had it set to never auto-update, but saw that it was still using mobile data.
As far as mobile protection I don't use antivirus but I have Cerberus for tracking wiping and the like
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
Eyedoctor2 said:
Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please attach screenshots like stated in the rules there is a reason I placed the requirement there
Also posting about how you use your phone is a rule
All you did was throw a DL at us and say fix it we do this for free to help the least you can do is follow every rule stated in op
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
Eyedoctor2 said:
Hi,
Using Seanz Sky Ice 4.2- 2.8 with modded Kernal 6 and UCLA 6 Modem
Attaching my BBS zip file.
Would be grateful for any help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First problem is you're using juice defender. Imo, that app does more harm than good on ics. It also looks like the gtalk app is waking you up way to much. If you don't use it, I'd say to delete it or, at the very least, log out of it when you aren't using it. Maps, like with my last setup, is killing you. I'd recommend following tj benders advice to me and either freeze it, or delete it all together and try one of his suggestions for a replacement.
Also, we're you charging at any point during that cycle, running at 384 for over 3 hours suggests to me that you had either charged for a while, or ya got an app going crazy. That is, unless your screen on time correlation is similar. Without the screen shots Illnevertell asked for, I can't really tell much more.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. Don't let your pants get wet and use that search button.
Sent from my I-727 Skyrocket running an Android version AT&T probably won't give me for another year.
FYI, if you zip your dump, I will not look at it.
AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
Solved
My apologies for not having followed thread rules on my prior post. I had just come from another battery thread that actually wanted BBS in zip form as the only post.
My prior BBS dump showed that my culprit wakelock was Suspend_Backoff. Searching I found the following thread:
productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/rT0ewNsBx18/0_RqLGBQr70J
I unchecked "Enable Tilt Scrolling" in Google Chrome settings and recharged my battery to 100%.
I then left it on idle all night just like it had been when I generated the last BBS file dump.
As you can see the results are drastically improved. Went from losing 65% of battery in 5 1/2 hours to losing 25% in 9 hours. Also went from 5% deep sleep to 94%!
Still not pefect but definitely a significant improvement. Thanks for the great thread!
Spectre one thing is network location I would turn that off until you need it also that giant cliff dropoff I'm assuming was a reboot of sorts that went uncaught I know that for me I don't get reboots on jb I go to recovery and clear my caches first thing then I make sure to close every app as I'm done using it as far as bbs I'll leave that to tj as he is a wakelock god at this point lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
specter07 said:
AOKP JB (R4INS)
9/16/12 release with stock kernel.
I've been using this rom for some time now but still can't get past the wake locks. When I updated to the 9/16, I did a clean updated. Wiped everything and fresh install. As you can see my phone rarely goes to sleep, so if anyone knows any secrets or tips on how to fix these wake locks it would help a lot and get the battery life I deserve.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Maps, basically, is the answer. It's polling NetworkLocationLocator pretty constantly. If you turn location services off, you'll help yourself tremendously. I still recommend uninstalling Maps (usual disclaimer about uninstalling system processes) and using an alternate app like Mapquest, OSMAnd and/or Waze to clean up all of those Maps-generated alarms.
Beyond that, HD Widgets is definitely keeping you awake some, so you might want to change the refresh time on that. That being said, I can't imagine HD Widgets is doing too much damage to your battery life or people wouldn't use it.
Post up another BBS dump if you get a chance. Also, BBS dumps are a great way to tell if you've randomly rebooted (which, yeah, can chew through a ton of battery) because they'll differ from the "up-time" shown by your battery screen. Also, if you set your phone down at 9:00 PM and wake up at 7:00 AM, but your BBS dump says it's only been five hours since boot, you know you've got some random rebooting going on.