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Hey guys,
I am coming from a G1 which I got from craigslist that I did not think twice about rooting. Now, I bought my captivate brand new and am over all pleased. The thing that drives me crazy is I would flash my g1 constantly. I liked the tinkering aspect. My question is at this point, are the custom roms out for the captivate worth rooting?
Keep in mind, I really do not notice lag on my phone and the GPS works fine for what I use it for. I also use the sideload wonder machine to load non market apps.
If you like to tweak - Designgears and others are pushing ROM builds like crazy.
Personally I will probably never run the phone stock again.
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If you like to tweak - Designgears and others are pushing ROM builds like crazy.
Personally I will probably never run the phone stock again.
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Right on, looks likes I am going to root my phone when i get home and see what I can load up. Thanks.
If you are happy with your phone and it does what you need it to do there is no reason to do anything. Look at what the custom ROMs have to offer and if there is anything you really think you would miss not having.
I'm personally running Con 2.2beta4 and have been running what dg has been putting out since SRE 1.2 or so, but I'm the kind of person who likes to tinker
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Hey guys,
I am coming from a G1 which I got from craigslist that I did not think twice about rooting. Now, I bought my captivate brand new and am over all pleased. The thing that drives me crazy is I would flash my g1 constantly. I liked the tinkering aspect. My question is at this point, are the custom roms out for the captivate worth rooting?
Keep in mind, I really do not notice lag on my phone and the GPS works fine for what I use it for. I also use the sideload wonder machine to load non market apps.
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Well, that's up to you, if you're pleased with your current setup, there's no need to.
Keep in mind stock rom with no lag fix gave me 900 on quadrant..
i9000 jg8 eclair rom (not recommanded unless you have a good reason for that specific rom) with reoriented kernel gave me 2200, and now, with cognition beta 4 I get about 1900 with lag fix, but it feels fast enough for me
and there's awesome flash support.
Stock setup is not using half of the potential of this phone if you ask me,
but if you're happy with it there's no need to risk it, you can always
brick it by accident if you flash (even though I flashed it a lot and unbricked it too many times but seems like some people managed to brick it completely..)
Unlike most of you guys I don't have a warranty, I'm living outside the u.s so I can't just go to at&t store and I paid for this phone
more than 650$ in cash and I still take the risk and flash it, I admit, I'm addicted.
So, I went ahead and rooted my phone and I have loaded a few roms already. Now I remember why I like android phones so much, heh.
quadrant doesnt matter.
if you like customization i say root. if you are in the know, then you should definitely root and customize
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quadrant doesnt matter.
if you like customization i say root. if you are in the know, then you should definitely root and customize
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I ended up at the stock firmware rooted, OCLF (honestly, besides the benchmarks, the phone does seem to be less laggy), stock lock screen and minus all of the ATT bloatware.
I feel silly for not rooting my phone before because this is exactly how I wish the phone was from the get go.
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I ended up at the stock firmware rooted, OCLF (honestly, besides the benchmarks, the phone does seem to be less laggy), stock lock screen and minus all of the ATT bloatware.
I feel silly for not rooting my phone before because this is exactly how I wish the phone was from the get go.
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yea im running cog 2.1.7 and it is blazing fast
hell yeah its worth rooting! im still debating to go to 2.2 or not, but im on cog 2.1.5 right now and its hella worth it
has anyone created just a black status bar? I really don't want to install any ROMS at the moment (I am rooted).
Thanks!
It looks nice, I'm waiting for the unrooted CM7 or whatever, I'm rooted but afraid to download any ROMs
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It looks nice, I'm waiting for the unrooted CM7 or whatever, I'm rooted but afraid to download any ROMs
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1. Cm7 is rooted.
2. Why would you be scared?
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I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
Someone will write a updated for the framework-res soon enough. I wonder how it will look with lcd bleeding.
Why flash an entire custom rom for just a black status bar?
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I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
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You have to be rooted to flash anything. Rom manager isnt ready yet, but clockwork recovery works just fine. And you cant brick a phone by flashing a rom.
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I thought the new cm7 comes out for unrooted users instead of having to go ito ROM manager and what-not to get it?
And that's why I'm worried... I'm not really that tech-savvy with this stuff, so I'm hesitant on installing anything.. don't want to brick my phone
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Honestly more people should be like you. If you're not comfortable doing the things you see on this forum like rooting, using a custom recovery and flashing roms it's best that you refrain from doing so. A lot of people mess stuff up and don't have enough knowledge to fix it, then panic and cause more problems for themselves.
I was extremely timid with my g1, but now 2 phones later I'm much more comfortable messing with this stuff. The best advice I can give is for you to just read all kinds of stuff on these forums until you get a good idea about what different things do and how they can help and/or hurt what you want to do with your phone, then decide for yourself if you want to proceed.
And yes, like the last poster said, CM is only available to root users. You might be thinking of Gingerbread (Android 2.3) which will be available to non-root users "soon" according to tmobile.
Hope this helps ya out man.
Thanks a lot guys, yes I used ROM manager and it didn't work and it got me stuck at the LG sign when rebooting, and I panicked, so I exchanged my phone.
Got a new one, rooted it for whatever reason - maybe just to freeze bloatware.
I'll just wait for the Gingerbread. I just hope it solves the battery problem? 0_o I'm a stickler for battery, so I need to know soon because I'll just return my phone and get a different one (possibly a blackberry since the battery was always good on my old one), just always wanted to adventure into a smartphone
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You have to be rooted to flash anything. Rom manager isnt ready yet, but clockwork recovery works just fine. And you cant brick a phone by flashing a rom.
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actually u can brick a phone JUST by flashing a ROM...unlikely given some reasonable intelligence...but it does happen...radios...radios..radios...also...kernels...
I'd say the best method is to just wait for the Official Gingerbread update from LG.
Flashing roms is fun and easy but not everyone has to be a crackflasher. CM7 will never be available for unrooted phones as you have to be rooted to flash it.
The G2x is very new and ClockWorkMod recovery isn't even ready for prime time yet. I would hold off at least until CWM Recovery has a decent automated boot process for our phones.
As far as bleeding screens, you WILL be able to see it with the all black bar. I have 2 G2x's here which 1 I haven't returned yet and has a screen bleed. It is noticeable. I did conclude that the "Sense-themed" bar in Eaglesblood isn't noticeable because of the contrasting colors. So take that with some consideration.
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Thanks a lot guys, yes I used ROM manager and it didn't work and it got me stuck at the LG sign when rebooting, and I panicked, so I exchanged my phone.
Got a new one, rooted it for whatever reason - maybe just to freeze bloatware.
I'll just wait for the Gingerbread. I just hope it solves the battery problem? 0_o I'm a stickler for battery, so I need to know soon because I'll just return my phone and get a different one (possibly a blackberry since the battery was always good on my old one), just always wanted to adventure into a smartphone
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Hahahahahahahhaha
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Hahahahahahahhaha
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My thoughts exactly,
Aren't blackberries notorious for turning themselves on and off? Maybe that explains the battery life
Haha, real funny, no my blackberry never turned on and off
I've had this tablet for a couple weeks now, and like many others, have not had the greatest experience as far as speed goes. Of course, while the I'm confident that unlocking and flashing CleanROM and Clemsyn's kernel onto my tab will make it much faster, I'm wondering whether it's really worth it. For those of you who have done so, how much has your experience differed from before unlocking to after? I rooted and flashed over a custom ROM onto my old G2, but only when I knew I was getting a replacement sometime in the near future. Worried about hard bricking especially because my tablet is without any of the numerous hardware defects that have been reported. In addition, some minor questions:
1) I'm not sure if it's clarified precisely in a guide, but how does one manually push OTA updates onto the tab after unlocking? I never had to worry about that on my phone.
2) Is there a significant increase in I/O speeds after unlocking, custom ROM, and custom kernel? Or is the poor hardware still going to bottleneck I/O speeds regardless of how much power is pushed to the CPU?
3) Currently using Tasker to manage my CPU. Will a custom kernel eliminate the need for it? (Actually, I still don't have a very clear idea of what a kernel is, if anyone could clarify).
4) TWRP or CWM? Didn't have a particularly bad time with CWM on my phone, but the forum mostly suggests TWRP?
5) Chances of a soft/hard brick? I'm pretty sure I can't downgrade to get NVFlash, and I don't want to end up with a $500 brick.
Thanks to any help you guys can provide and sorry if any of it is a repost.
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I've had this tablet for a couple weeks now, and like many others, have not had the greatest experience as far as speed goes. Of course, while the I'm confident that unlocking and flashing CleanROM and Clemsyn's kernel onto my tab will make it much faster, I'm wondering whether it's really worth it. For those of you who have done so, how much has your experience differed from before unlocking to after? I rooted and flashed over a custom ROM onto my old G2, but only when I knew I was getting a replacement sometime in the near future. Worried about hard bricking especially because my tablet is without any of the numerous hardware defects that have been reported. In addition, some minor questions:
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1) I'm not sure if it's clarified precisely in a guide, but how does one manually push OTA updates onto the tab after unlocking? I never had to worry about that on my phone.
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I've in the past downed the appropriate firmware file from Asus to a desktop PC.
Connected the tab thru USB...unzipped the download file to the tabs internal sd or the external micro card.
Usually the tablet will detect an update sometimes without a reboot as though it's an OTA.
From there it's yay or nay...
2) Is there a significant increase in I/O speeds after unlocking, custom ROM, and custom kernel? Or is the poor hardware still going to bottleneck I/O speeds regardless of how much power is pushed to the CPU?
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Yes!
In my own personal case a 75% or 90% increase maybe higher.
I'm going off benchmarks here..
Sadly of course we can't change the insides.
3) Currently using Tasker to manage my CPU. Will a custom kernel eliminate the need for it? (Actually, I still don't have a very clear idea of what a kernel is, if anyone could clarify).
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No experience with Tasker myself. I don't see a need for CPU management with Clemsyn's latest kernel modifications.
Also CleanROM 2.4 is running very fast by itself...in my opinion.
* A kernel is the framework or bridge that any OS uses to bring software and hardware together.
The kernel manages resources in memory for input\output from applications to machine processing (as I understand it.)
Generally the kernel has to load into memory on boot up to pull everything together.
4) TWRP or CWM? Didn't have a particularly bad time with CWM on my phone, but the forum mostly suggests TWRP?
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I think this would be a preference.
I had to use CWM (non touch) once to root inside JellyBean using the ADB bridge.
Once rooted I went right back to TWRP 2.3.1.0
Merely a pref...I was afraid I was going to screw something up using CWM (non-touch) because I had to navigate with the volume +\- and power button.
My own fear of "fat-fingering" those tiny buttons came into play here...
5) Chances of a soft/hard brick?
I'm pretty sure I can't downgrade to get NVFlash, and I don't want to end up with a $500 brick.
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Many will recommend NV and rightly so...it would be nice to have the insurance in case one had to bring the tablet back from the grave!
Thinking my tablet upped to .30 before NV Flash showed up.
Most likely worth the trouble for sure.
All in all I believe unlocking, flashing then seeing the benefits would be worth the miniscule risks.
Very little is cast in stone, however many have gone before and are happy tablet people after perusing the development section and choosing their poison!
Thanks to any help you guys can provide and sorry if any of it is a repost.
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These or variations of the questions get asked quite often.
We don't mind answering ... I'm retired so I have lots of free time anyhoo ...
The best learners are the ones who love to teach!
...as my sister the teacher used to say.
I will probably replicate some of Thats_OK's thorough answer here, but I will go through it sequentially... just because I can.
Hohumhurrdurr said:
I've had this tablet for a couple weeks now, and like many others, have not had the greatest experience as far as speed goes. Of course, while the I'm confident that unlocking and flashing CleanROM and Clemsyn's kernel onto my tab will make it much faster, I'm wondering whether it's really worth it. For those of you who have done so, how much has your experience differed from before unlocking to after?
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Sweet Lord, the difference is day and night. I'm not a benchmark guy, so I wouldn't be the one to trust when throwing around numbers, but it IS significant without a single doubt.
I rooted and flashed over a custom ROM onto my old G2, but only when I knew I was getting a replacement sometime in the near future. Worried about hard bricking especially because my tablet is without any of the numerous hardware defects that have been reported.
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Mine is free of anything out of the order aswell, but the upside is you don't have to contend with any special issues either.
In addition, some minor questions:
1) I'm not sure if it's clarified precisely in a guide, but how does one manually push OTA updates onto the tab after unlocking? I never had to worry about that on my phone.
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I think Scott Crossler's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129 is best since it contains a few screenshots too. You'd only need step 1, but it's a nice start. The same guide is also applicable if you want to flash a custom ROM, so no need to put more in here.
2) Is there a significant increase in I/O speeds after unlocking, custom ROM, and custom kernel? Or is the poor hardware still going to bottleneck I/O speeds regardless of how much power is pushed to the CPU?
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As I said before: I think you'll be amazed -- I know I was. I have an SGS2, it's nice and smooth and I wanted that same feeling with the 700. I was happy with it in stock state, but I will admit I expected more of it. Now, 100% happy (CleanROM 2.4, not even Clemsyn's kernel yet). Not 99.9% -- a full 100%.
3) Currently using Tasker to manage my CPU. Will a custom kernel eliminate the need for it? (Actually, I still don't have a very clear idea of what a kernel is, if anyone could clarify).
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A kernel is... hehehe, wow... is the piece of code that translates any commands programs give to the hardware of your device, shoving data around in the process and making the results of data processing available system-wide. This is a crutch explanation and very simplified, but I'm sure some Googling will enlighten you much more. <faceslap for not reading your questios fully before starting to answer>
4) TWRP or CWM? Didn't have a particularly bad time with CWM on my phone, but the forum mostly suggests TWRP?
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Preference, as Thats_OK said. He is a TWRP guy, I'm a CWM guy. Both will serve you well as long as you stay up to date and only use the newest versions. Not a possiblity to go hugely wrong here, you'll just have to try what you like. I have had CWM on my SGS2 for ages, and Touch CWM is available for the 700 -- so these two aspects made it a clear go-to recovery for me. YMMV.
5) Chances of a soft/hard brick? I'm pretty sure I can't downgrade to get NVFlash, and I don't want to end up with a $500 brick.
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Depends on which firmware your 700 currently runs. If you're a sensible guy and know you have to read, and maybe even hold back a few hours to maybe even a day or two till we have put new things through their paces -- having Nvflash available, the risk is negligible to us -- you'll be fine. I've been flashing around before Nvflash was even available and I didn't give that much though, to be honest. The risks are not that big to start with as long as you can follow procedures to the letter (or now how to recover from most errors), and Nvflash only makes them even smaller.
Thanks to any help you guys can provide and sorry if any of it is a repost.
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You're getting away with it, since you 1) asked nicely and 2) only your first question was a duplicate. Hahaha! Just kidding. You asked some questions that were new to me, so then I am not inclined to be annoyed. (I'll admit I have been less than nice the last few weeks. Santa Clause has a slightly less heavy load this year. )
I have been trying to flash ARHD 9.1 and 8.1 on my M8, but 9.1 hangs at the htc one splash screen (presumably because its for devices with more updated firmware) and 8.1 simply fails to load at all within twrp. Has anyone gotten it working? I am s-off, unlocked, and rooted, and running the newest updates.
anyone have any ideas? Or perhaps an alternative ROM that is also worth flashing on an M8?
I asked the ARHD developer (or rather, the thread in general) if they knew it worked on our M8s... Nobody knew. I err on the side of caution and assume it doesn't.
I'm still learning HTC but on my Galaxy S3 flashing other carriers' stuff was asking for a brick. I never attempted it. Flashing kernels was especially dangerous. There was a little bit of crossover, like with Verizon/US Cellular and some US Cellular/T-Mobile but I tried to steer clear of that, until the whole "Unified" thing came about. I hope it comes to us. Basically the installer has a trick where it figures out what variation your device is and applies the right files, and all ROMs become universal to all M8s... Not sure what the status on that is. My understanding was that Cyanogen was behind it, at least for the Samsungs.
Now, you want ARHD because you want Sense loaded with features, am I right? I use CleanROM because I want a light Sense ROM. I haven't tried it, but you might give Viper a shot. A lot of people like it. I'm tempted to try it myself just to see what the fuss is about... but honestly I like CleanROM.
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I asked the ARHD developer (or rather, the thread in general) if they knew it worked on our M8s... Nobody knew. I err on the side of caution and assume it doesn't.
I'm still learning HTC but on my Galaxy S3 flashing other carriers' stuff was asking for a brick. I never attempted it. Flashing kernels was especially dangerous. There was a little bit of crossover, like with Verizon/US Cellular and some US Cellular/T-Mobile but I tried to steer clear of that, until the whole "Unified" thing came about. I hope it comes to us. Basically the installer has a trick where it figures out what variation your device is and applies the right files, and all ROMs become universal to all M8s... Not sure what the status on that is. My understanding was that Cyanogen was behind it, at least for the Samsungs.
Now, you want ARHD because you want Sense loaded with features, am I right? I use CleanROM because I want a light Sense ROM. I haven't tried it, but you might give Viper a shot. A lot of people like it. I'm tempted to try it myself just to see what the fuss is about... but honestly I like CleanROM.
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Thanks for the response! That's really strange that it doesn't work, considering the ROM DOES ask you which carrier you're on, and Verizon is selectable, but I tried it and it doesn't work, for whatever reason, so I suppose it doesn't.
CleanROM sounds pretty nice, as I do want a very light ROM myself, however, I think I'll try viper first to see how it runs. I am looking for a ROM more for performance increase than customizability, however, I'm having fun testing everything out
Well they never responded so I don't know for sure it doesn't work... but I figure if they're not sure, I don't wanna be flashing it. Some who speak are not sure... wiser still are those who are not sure and don't speak.
For performance you may just want a third-party kernel. Those usually come with the kernel tuning app. So you can over or under clock, whatever you want. I don't mess with any of that stuff.
I ran 8.1 on my Verizon M8 for a bit...I had issues with group messaging and keeping a lock on GPS though. I think they've mentioned the version of twrp could cause issues.
I was running it for a day but battery drain and GPS issues had me back to clean. I did read through their thread and saw some people having issues with using a specific version of twrp.. honestly don't remember which one I didn't have an issue using 2.7.1.0 on my device.
i m on 8.1 no issues.
I m s off, super cid , twerp.
The 8.1 works , the 9 and up can't get WiFi ,
Because the frameware is not compatible.
Until an ota from Verizon gets out .
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Thanks for the response! That's really strange that it doesn't work, considering the ROM DOES ask you which carrier you're on, and Verizon is selectable, but I tried it and it doesn't work, for whatever reason, so I suppose it doesn't.
CleanROM sounds pretty nice, as I do want a very light ROM myself, however, I think I'll try viper first to see how it runs. I am looking for a ROM more for performance increase than customizability, however, I'm having fun testing everything out
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I would recommend you take a look at this gpe ROM if you looking for a slim, fast ROM without all the customization... http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...om-sinlessrom-gpe-v3-4-3-google-play-t2818550
This looks pretty cool, but I flashed cleanROM already and I'm pretty happy with it. I might check it out when I get bored though!
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It's running perfectly for me, with the exception of GPS. However I do get 7 hours screen time often.
I really just want recommendations for what should I be upgrading or switching to in terms of which recovery I should have installed and what is the latest version for my phone or whatever.
Can someone PLEASE tell me if what they think of any of the FEW custom roms available? I will take the first recommendation...lol. Maybe the best recommendation is to just use stock like I am because it's fine but I still want to do a refresh and get the latest and greatest updates since I am probably not receiving OTA updates
For a long time I had been REALLY hoping to install a custom ROM on this puppy but sadly, even though I love my Pixel 2 and having it rooted, noone seemed to care be making custom roms for her at the time. Development is/was slow it seems unless I am viewing it wrong. strange.
I find that really strange because I recall claims that google is ok with you rooting this phone and does not in fact break the warranty.
Anyways, yeah please any simple advice would be helpful to me as I am just a little out of the loop since I last updated my phone
I don't really understand the point or see the need for me to install a different kernel but can't someone please tell me what might be cool about doing so?
I just want my phone to have a try with a different ROM installed that might be sleeker or more efficient and customizable somehow, just to try it and see.
if you dont know why you need a different kernel then dont do it.
if you want a custom rom on your Pixel 2 for the COOL factor. dont do it.
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if you dont know why you need a different kernel then dont do it.
if you want a custom rom on your Pixel 2 for the COOL factor. dont do it.
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I agree with the sentiment as far as the kernel is concerned, but disagree for custom roms. There are a lot of features on custom roms for other phones that are pretty cool, so his question makes sense. Personally, I used to flash custom roms on older devices, and I'd pick them based on what features I thought were "cool."
As for the OP, I've been running rooted stock on my Pixel 2 since day one, and I have no desire to try custom roms. There's nothing appealing to me, offered by custom roms, that I can't get on stock with Magisk Modules and other root apps, such as Substratum. As far as which recovery to use, just check out the TWRP thread, it'll have the most recent. If you want to update your stock rom, just download a factory image from Google and flash it. Just be sure to remove the -w from the .bat if you don't want it to wipe your device.
This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well
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This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well
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how is root harder to get?
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how is root harder to get?
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It's just more cumbersome. I rooted my Pixel 1 and not having a dedicated recovery partition like the nexus did just made things a bigger pain in the ass than they needed to be. If I made changes, etc I had to always fastboot into TWRP then reflash. I think I just miss the way the nexus was. Right now I cannot use CDMA on the OnePlus, but if the merger happens with Sprint and T-Mobile and I can I'm going to consider it.
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It's just more cumbersome. I rooted my Pixel 1 and not having a dedicated recovery partition like the nexus did just made things a bigger pain in the ass than they needed to be. If I made changes, etc I had to always fastboot into TWRP then reflash. I think I just miss the way the nexus was. Right now I cannot use CDMA on the OnePlus, but if the merger happens with Sprint and T-Mobile and I can I'm going to consider it.
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just have to add twrp zip after flashing a rom. Magisk does not mess with TWRP.
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This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well
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Same. I know lots of people say "just flash twrp after each monthly update" etc but the reality is why make something more complicated than it needs to/used to be. For the Pixel 2 it seems every TWRP update is a "I'm going to make a backup image of my phone and cross my fingers it works when I need it" feeling. I don't personally enjoy that so like you I'm sticking with stock on the P2 for now.
Just read my previous post on updating. You'll be glad you did: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=76342671
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Same. I know lots of people say "just flash twrp after each monthly update" etc but the reality is why make something more complicated than it needs to/used to be. For the Pixel 2 it seems every TWRP update is a "I'm going to make a backup image of my phone and cross my fingers it works when I need it" feeling. I don't personally enjoy that so like you I'm sticking with stock on the P2 for now.
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I have not tried to make a back up since the Pixel 1. I'm sure things have improved however before when I first had the Pixel 1 and tried to make a backup I had issues and never tried again. Also the updating process, I would just flash the new boot.img and system, when I tried it with the pixel 1 it kept erasing despite removing the w- flag.
The Pixel 2 works well enough plus it's my daily driver and the process has just become cumbersome esp with work and others things I am doing. Probably at some point I may look at it again, and I have CDMA, but if I want to really run with that stuff I'd probably just get a OnePlus which is oriented more towards modding.
Plus more and more apps are not working with root and while you can get around that with magisk it's a cat and mouse game constantly. I don't even know how to do it anymore but I remember last year you had to flash this, then that, etc, etc in a certain sequence, then if it didn't work you start all over etc etc.....It's just a hassle.