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Should my dad go for N8?

Hey guys, my dad is looking for a new phone. He currently has a 3 year old HTC Herald(A beaten up, broken touch screen, piece of ****) and seriously wants to have a replacement. He loves photography(Always tries to learn new things about his DSLR and improves his photography) so wants a phone that has a good camera. He wants a nice capacitive touch screen with e-mail(G-mail push) and facebook integration and GPS(With maps as well as map tracking) and perhaps some decent time-killer games. Nokia N8 costs about 22-24k INR here and sounds perfect for his needs, his other opinion was Dell Streak but it is about 34k INR plus its future of having gingerbread seems weak. Desire HD/Z are not available here plus they might be quite expensive when they make it here. I got a Desire and he doesn't want to have the same phone(Not that he found it to be bad, but he doesn't want to copy anyone. Plus camera on Desire is something he doesn't like(Not that I do)).
What do you think?

This is a matter of preference and I cant say much about the actual phone BUT after using android symbian just doesn't cut it anymore. But again this is only my opinion.

Agree with Daml...if you want to have also a GPS and maps, what is better than Android? I would stick with google OS instead of Symbian...

My GF has the N97 mini & was looking at N8 as hates the N97s Horrid UI, unfortunatly N8 is not a lot better.
Trying to move her to Android as far better OS than Nokia's bodged efforts at making Symbian touch friendly.
WM5 was better than OS on her N97 mini.

the n8 is a brick.
i played with thae phone. Symbian is wack in my opinion.

Well what would you guys suggest?

My wife has the N8. She likes it. It seems like a solid phone and hasn't given her any problems. Battery life is average, nowhere near her old phone, E71. She chose the N8 because of the ease of migration and the familiarity and she wanted a great camera. I forget where I read it, but the tagline was Nokia made a great camera with cell phone capabilities. It seems to be true. The Ovi Store and Ovi Maps are pretty good.
I can't directly compare with Android though. I prefer winmo and only boot to android for specific tasks or some game play.

Found migration using the Nokia transfer a long way from perfect.
The camera & build are only plus points, OS is simply a pathetic effort for aimed market & price.

Don't ask people on XDA about a Nokia device. You will only get troll and false answers. The only minus about the N8 is the application selection. Buy one to open the eyes of developers.

Seems like this post has been here for almost 2 weeks now so not sure if u have bought ur dad his phone yet.
However, i would disagree with the comments of people above me.
1) What is so bad about symbian^3? i agree that symbian1 sucked due to the inconsistent one and two touch to enter thing but symbian 3 has no such problems at all.
2) n8 offers alot more than just a 12Mp camera! It records in 720p HD, has active noice cancellation.
3) What other phones has a HDMI output? after taking pictures u can even just hook the phone up to a tv
4) I agree that there arent that many games yet, but it already has more than 10 HD games already so far and it's only been about 2 months. EA games are even backing the n8 symbian 3 by creating HD games for them!
hmm what else, i guess it does sell itself with the casing etc. I blive the top andriod atm is samsung galaxy s? The screen is nice indeed, but it has no flash and only 5mp camera, so night pictures are totally out of the picture. but yea try it before buying it! It's a really good phone i reckon, love the GPS on it too. oh and also not to mention the photo editing software that it comes with!

Mister B said:
Found migration using the Nokia transfer a long way from perfect.
The camera & build are only plus points, OS is simply a pathetic effort for aimed market & price.
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oh and btw, i migrated from my n86 to n8 without any problems. All my stuff got transfered over perfectly!

Yeh files migrated after afew attempts but sms dates are changed to date of the transfer which is a bit pathetic.
Had an issue with Thai font turning to squares after transfer, not good as both Nokia devices are Asian market & support Asian fonts so the transfer software appears to have an issue with this !
More customization of transfer options would be good too.
For price & Nokias long running in mobile market I would expect a lot more, the OS is about 3 years behind the compition ! My old WM2003se HTC Magician with Resco Photo Viewer makes an N97 mini photo viewer look completely pathetic, put it next to an iphone or WM6.5.3 OS & it looks like a 1st year students software project.

I'm not a nokia/symbian fan BUT, according with your dad's purposes, i think the N8 sounds exactly like the phone you're looking for.

xdaid said:
I'm not a nokia/symbian fan BUT, according with your dad's purposes, i think the N8 sounds exactly like the phone you're looking for.
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gariec11 said:
Seems like this post has been here for almost 2 weeks now so not sure if u have bought ur dad his phone yet.
However, i would disagree with the comments of people above me.
1) What is so bad about symbian^3? i agree that symbian1 sucked due to the inconsistent one and two touch to enter thing but symbian 3 has no such problems at all.
2) n8 offers alot more than just a 12Mp camera! It records in 720p HD, has active noice cancellation.
3) What other phones has a HDMI output? after taking pictures u can even just hook the phone up to a tv
4) I agree that there arent that many games yet, but it already has more than 10 HD games already so far and it's only been about 2 months. EA games are even backing the n8 symbian 3 by creating HD games for them!
hmm what else, i guess it does sell itself with the casing etc. I blive the top andriod atm is samsung galaxy s? The screen is nice indeed, but it has no flash and only 5mp camera, so night pictures are totally out of the picture. but yea try it before buying it! It's a really good phone i reckon, love the GPS on it too. oh and also not to mention the photo editing software that it comes with!
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I have both a premium android device (mytouch 4g with froyo) and N8. Although it comes down to individual preference, I prefer the android device. The UI is much more user friendly and smooth, theres actually a portrait qwerty keyboard available. The widgets are also much more customisable and easier to use. Additionally, the apps make the android device much more favourable. As a medical student, I find a plethora of medical apps available on Android (almost as many as the Iphone), and even otherwise there are a lot more apps available to make it feel like a true smartphone. It's also the little things that matter, such as the fact that the Android phone automatically syncs your contacts with facebook and twitter profiles of your friends, whereas the N8 does not appear to have this capability.
Admittedly the N8 feels like a lot more sturdy device (has gorilla glass and aluminised body), but I got it largely because of the availability of Ovi Maps (although I like Google Maps, I don't like the idea of needing a data connection everytime I go outside and need it). One other thing is that the N8 is a pentaband 3g device, meaning it would work on 3g networks in virtually every country and with every provider, although to my knowledge there is no such android device. This would be esp useful if you travel a lot (like me). This is something I personally think the people at Nokia should have actually bothered to mention when marketing the device. I mainly keep the N8 to listen to music, and for when I go overseas, but it is not my main device.
Overall, I'd definitely say go with the android device (esp. as the mytouch 4g is a great device).

it's up to you , but i think HTC is better!

Not in the camera department. If you want a camera phone look at samsung, nokia or sony's selection.

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[Q] Wanted: GSM Device with Hard Keyboard... Which one?

I currently use a AT&T Tilt 2 (aka HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium) and I love most everything about it, especially the keyboard, but I am increasingly becoming aware of how limited it is compared to the newer phones on the market that have faster processors, much more RAM, and far superior cameras/camcorders. I'm not much of a techie, but I can understand flashing/tweaking my devices if the instructions are clear enough, so I've been trying to research the new phones on the market on my own to decide what my next device should be... Now, I'm even more confused than I was before!
I've always used Windows Mobile (Siemens SX56, then SX66, then Kaiser, now Rhodium), therefore I have no experience with Android or Windows 7. Android seems like the logical progression, as it's not locked down like W7 and iPhone, but I am hesitant about going over to the unknown and regretting it. My (very un-technical) wish list for a new device is:
New device MUST have a hard, slide-out, landscape keyboard (so, iPhones need not apply! LOL)
Decent camera with flash and HD video (preferred)
Sync well with Microsoft Outlook, as my entire life is in my Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, etc.
Must have GPS (but I believe most devices have GPS anyway) -- I currently use Bing for navigation, as it is free and has voice-guided directions
Must either have large memory capacity or expandable memory (card) capability
I'm not a gamer by any stretch, so I'm not looking for a toy, but to have a device that would actually play decent videos (from YouTube and the like) would definitely be a plus. Also, I find that I don't use my Rhodium much for music, as I'm able to store much more music on my 60GB MP3 player than I would on my device anyway.
I basically want a phone that will contain & manage my life, allow me to easily sync with my computer(s), act as my portable computer, and have a few cool bells/whistles to make my life easier. I've looked at what AT&T has on offer and the only device that I seem to like is the LG Quantum, but I am very hesitant since the prices on Ebay have some down pretty drastically on that one (you can pick one up for a little over $100 now, which can't be a good sign if Rhodiums are still selling for almost the same price) and the new W7 system just doesn't entice me yet. I want to control a lot on my phone, so I feel like I might be taking a step backwards if I went with that device. I'm not opposed to getting an unlocked phone from another carrier, but I want to be sure that I am still able to get the most out of whatever device I buy.
What devices out there would fit my criteria? What have those who also loved their Rhodiums switched to? Is there anything on the horizon for AT&T users that I should wait for?
Thanks for allowing me to pick your XDA brains! I've been here for several years and have always found our members helpful and knowledgeable, so I appreciate and respect your insights/opinions... Thank you!
Debbie

I want a great HTC keyboard device with Android but nothing has came out, hope next bunch of mobiles in Sept/Oct can bring some

Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.

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kccode1 said:
Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.
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Same here.... T-Mobile G2 is cool phone...

my wife has the HTC evo shift, which is great, also the mytouch 4g slide is an amazing phone.
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[Q] Coming from TB, looking at 8X and DNA

Gentlemen, time to retire the old Thunderbolt. Looking into the 8X and Droid DNA. I have watched and read a ton of vids and reviews on the 8x and DNA, now its time for the experts to lend thier opinion.
I will not be rooting or whatever we call it on the windows platform. thats a condition of the new phone. I have rooted or unlocked all prior phones, including my old Imagio, but the wife is accurate when she said they never work as good as when you left them alone. So with that, need un-unlocked opinions.
Storage - I use the phone mostly for music, some pictures for facebook and MMS, how bad is 16 (actually 11!?) with 7 skydrive? How many songs (or hours). Dont ask me to compare what I have space wise on my 32G SD card, my music is scattered from one file to the next, and the card is full of apk's and zips.
Overall performance - Really, this is where you guys can offer me true expertise. What do you personally think of the 8X compared to your old phone, especially if you came from a TB or android based OS?
iPhone factor - So I really like to brag about how my phones rock well beyond what my sheeps iPhone---I mean wife's iPhone can do. Can I truly have my tag say 'The iPhone killer!'
Thanks in advance guys! Everyone here at XDA just rocks the mobile world!

Come on guys, anyone got any opinion? Really would hate to reduce my choice to the DNA because I didn't get any feedback. Your opinions really matter, and would like to go into the store with a real good idea on the choice.
Let me know what you all think! Thanks again guys and gals!

Hey there,
Ive been running wp7 and its successors on my hd2 for some time (well over a year), as well as trying android and the dreaded ibone.
What i would say about wp8 and the 8x is this: It is completely different to droid & iOS. Both those os's are completely app dependant therefore data & memory hungry.
WP8 is different, if you are a facebook/twitter/linkedin bod (like me) these are fully integrated in to the os, hit 'people' tab and 'boom' all there in one screen - no app involved (in fact i hardly ever use the official fb/twit apps).
The os is smooth as butter, it was even on wp7 in the early days. WP8 is much better, the next generation, its fast, stable makes you smile in its natural and instinctive 'user-bility'.
What i would also say, is that you cannot fully appreciate a wp device whilst playing with it in a shop for 10 minutes. If you can, borrow one for a week and live with it - get it set up for YOU.........windows phone is for YOU. You will either love it or hate it, but i promise you an experience - Yes im a windows bod, have been since the days of wm5 - be different and own something that can only get better (just look at the low level of development from the ibone 4 to the 5 - point made)
Just my 2 cents of course - it is purely subjective.

Thanks Timmymarsh! I would love to borrow one, but doubt that will happen. Maybe I can get Verizon to go with a 15 day trial period or something.
I have a friend who works at MS, and he gets all the latest and greatest, and just loves his phone. Doubt he can get one for me ;(
Thanks for the information, it really helps to hear honest opinions!

I too have had rooted androids and jailbroken iPhones, but this phone has completely changed my outlook on things. While it has a few things I'd like different, I don't have any desire to change or alter it. Its fast, smooth, and didn't leave me with buyer's remorse immediately afterwards
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SuFuS01dier said:
I too have had rooted androids and jailbroken iPhones, but this phone has completely changed my outlook on things. While it has a few things I'd like different, I don't have any desire to change or alter it. Its fast, smooth, and didn't leave me with buyer's remorse immediately afterwards
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How easy is its initial set up? I mean getting the screen to show the way you want, and setting up say outlook for contacts and emails? and can you tell me how that skydrive works? Does it play the music from there, or just downloads what I need?
Also, the xbox portion of the phone, if you xbox, how does it integrate and does it expand the xbox or more informational?

sooo easy to set up its painful, beats droid out the ground re contacts etc. I have an outlook account, gmail, msn, facebook, twitter & 3 other email accounts. So easy to link all your contacts so they appear in one contact page. Once you done it, its backed up for the next time - new device or hard rest
Mate, be different and get one, all new devices have their quircks, inc google and apple, but having said that, you wont be disappointed.
As for drop box, someone else will have to comment there as i dont know, i just sync the music i immediately want on my device so sant comment

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sooo easy to set up its painful, beats droid out the ground re contacts etc. I have an outlook account, gmail, msn, facebook, twitter & 3 other email accounts. So easy to link all your contacts so they appear in one contact page. Once you done it, its backed up for the next time - new device or hard rest
Mate, be different and get one, all new devices have their quircks, inc google and apple, but having said that, you wont be disappointed.
As for drop box, someone else will have to comment there as i dont know, i just sync the music i immediately want on my device so sant comment
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Thanks again Timmy. I just watched a ton of vids where they demonstrated the 8X against android and apple, and I am really liking the idea of the live tiles, the different way the screen provides information, and the speed at which he was able to do stuff. Even counting he is paid to be that fast, its still impresive especially since he shows them how it works.
I am a minimilistic fan, and use SSLauncher with nothing but texts for my 'icons', but surprising, I find the boxes refreshing. I was leaning more towards the DNA, but ever since I started to get responses here, I think I am going to seriously check out the 8X.

not putting you off the 8x, its a great device, but try the nokia 920 in the shop too.

timmymarsh said:
not putting you off the 8x, its a great device, but try the nokia 920 in the shop too.
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Yea, last rumor mill had it showing up around August, that came and went. So now they are saying end of this year (like in 18 days) or next year. If it doesn't come soon, then it wont happen for me.

jerrya said:
How easy is its initial set up? I mean getting the screen to show the way you want, and setting up say outlook for contacts and emails? and can you tell me how that skydrive works? Does it play the music from there, or just downloads what I need?
Also, the xbox portion of the phone, if you xbox, how does it integrate and does it expand the xbox or more informational?
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not sure how SkyDrive works as I haven't used it yet. The Xbox support was a high point for me since it does so much that other phones can't or don't. Setting up your home screen is as easy as any I suppose. Simple but not boring
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decision made
Hey guys, want to thank all of you for helping, voicing your opinions, etc. I have made my decision.
Watched a 6+ part video on each area of the 8X and then learning about WPDemo.com, decided to go back to Microsoft. Looking forward to getting the new phone. Guess only question now is, what color?
Thanks again everyone! I even found several apps that are both WM and android. So I only loose a few (turn by turn hurts a little though!)
Any idea when thats going to be corrected? I refuse to pay Veri$on any more money then they are already getting!
Thanks again everyone!

[Q] Should I buy a Android phone or just a normal phone?

I know this question may be seem insane for lot of people out there. But please be kind enough to answer me with patient. (typical research)
I am a Linux developer. I am used to develop on desktop environment and find my self confident with portability of laptop. For all of these years I used a simple mobile phone just to make calls and texts. I don't ever do browse web or take photos from my mobile. I have digital cameras and camcorders for that. Most technical thing I used with my phone is using it as a presentation remote controller over blue-tooth. That's all.
Recently my phone broke down due to my careless nature. So it's time for me to buy a mobile. I thought of going for a android (smart phone). Could you guys point me out why should I get a smart phone? Would it be waste of money? I don't need to read books, surf web, take photos or play games on mobile. I see gps as a useful thing but not using that much either. I see a camera on smart-phone is a waste. I like to use it as a QR reader too. Also if I buy it I would make apps for it as I know how to develop android apps. But I don't need to buy it for app making.
So please stop laughing at me and tell me why should I shift. I'm bit old fashion guy. Thank you
P.S. :- Thank you guys so much for the support. I made my decision. You guys helped me to make it. I'm buing android in next week. Again thanks alot.

theLolipro said:
I know this question may be seem insane for lot of people out there. But please be kind enough to answer me with patient. (typical research)
I am a Linux developer. I am used to develop on desktop environment and find my self confident with portability of laptop. For all of these years I used a simple mobile phone just to make calls and texts. I don't ever do browse web or take photos from my mobile. I have digital cameras and camcorders for that. Most technical thing I used with my phone is using it as a presentation remote controller over blue-tooth. That's all.
Recently my phone broke down due to my careless nature. So it's time for me to buy a mobile. I thought of going for a android (smart phone). Could you guys point me out why should I get a smart phone? Would it be waste of money? I don't need to read books, surf web, take photos or play games on mobile. I see gps as a useful thing but not using that much either. I see a camera on smart-phone is a waste.
So please stop laughing at me and tell me why should I shift. I'm bit old fashion guy. Thank you
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These days, many people have a Smartphone as well as a normal calling+texting phone. Its simply because Smartphones don't have much battery backup and the normal phones can last for 3-4 days. And for calling and texting they uses this normal phone and for internet related things, Smartphones! But its just for heavy phone user.
In your case, if you don't use internet related apps or web browsing you can pretty much opt for a normal phone as it comes cheap and can save battery. Android or any other Smartphone is only useful for those who uses Social Networking or Instant Messaging, etc. And if you feel like you want to shift to Android after purchasing a normal phone, its do-able because normal phones like Nokia 109, Nokia 114 etc. costs much less.

definitely smartphones
As of these days smartphone pricing is going down day by day, and its better to hav one if you develop apps. One point we dont know when an emergency mail has to be sent or receive only by your smartphone 3g .

You don't need one its that simple
So many Roms so little time

It's up to you.
Personally, I've found plenty of times it's much easier to do something internet-related on my phone rather than get out or bring my big, heavy laptop. I used to do that. Get lost, need directions, et cetera ? That meant pulling over to somewhere with free WIFI. Having a smartphone means you just need to pull over anywhere - or use voice commands/have a passenger do it/just be unsafe/et cetera.
I used to have a point-and-shoot camera and the only time I've used it since getting my new phone with a decent camera is to take a picture of the phone itself. Why carry around a bunch of stuff when one small object can do it all ?
With my smartphone I hardly ever text any more since I can use data IM services. Not really essential, but it gives you options. I also find typing on the touchscreen to be faster and easier thanks to Swiftkey 3. I had phones with a physical keyboard before and I don't miss it.
If you are getting a carrier upgrade or considering buying through eBay or the like, I think a good question is "why not" ? You can get a good enough smartphone for pretty cheap and get a feel for it.
One thing I love is things like Astrid tasks - I can have it instead of a grocery list, et cetera - I won't lose it because my phone is something I always check to have with me instead of a piece of paper. I can carry it while getting groceries unlike a whole laptop or even computer. It's also incredibly easy to take notes at times when getting a whole laptop out would be ridiculous. You can make notes of things to remember and add calendar events that sync to your desktop/laptop. I have my phone syncing to three other devices so that just like not having to carry an extra camera, I don't have to manually transfer everything on physical media.
Sure, I don't NEED to play mobile games, but... why not ? Even my mom likes Android gaming. My phone plan is LESS than my talk + text plan was with Sprint, it's not like I'm paying extra for this. I keep a book or two on my phone because why not, it comes in handy when needed and it doesn't cost me anything. I watched a bit of a show on Netflix while waiting for a friend - so much faster and easier than setting up a whole laptop in my car and trying to get a WIFI signal strong enough. I'm so pleased that I'm paying less money and getting so much more - my last phone couldn't even go on-line, let alone stream HD video over 4g.
I like being able to search for answers to "when is Sears open until" or "nearest liquor store" or "I haven't seen a road I recognise for ten miles" - and be able to get directions. Yeah, it's silly, but it's pretty great. I had to drive once to a friend's parents' house - somewhere I'd never been. Instead of getting arduous turn-by-turn directions, I could just get the street address and Google Maps lead me there without needing to keep my friend on the phone while driving. My friends and I routinely use the navigation since even if you know where point B is, you might not immediately know the best way to get there from point A - saves gas and time.
I would disagree that you don't need it for app making. Not technically, no - but how can you really be a good app-maker if you don't understand the user and what the user wants ? You can read about it, sure - but you're not going to have the best tools to be creative and innovate unless you have it in your hands and understand the unique challenges and logistics that come with actually using a smartphone. It's like if doctors only read books and never interacted with sick people under instruction before being "on the job" for real. You learn so much by having hands-on experience that might be easy to overlook or not consider otherwise.
My dad had a flip-phone until recently. He asked the same question, "why" ? Now he wonders why he ever said "no". Yeah, he has a laptop required for work and a lot of other things, but it's just the little things that it adds - the options, getting rid of extra gadgets, making life a little bit easier when you'd have been paying for the phone service anyway - why not ?
Could I get by without it ? Definitely. But why would I give it up when it's actually saving me money ?

Thank you guys! I think I found my answer.
coolsandie said:
These days, many people have a Smartphone as well as a normal calling+texting phone. Its simply because Smartphones don't have much battery backup and the normal phones can last for 3-4 days. And for calling and texting they uses this normal phone and for internet related things, Smartphones! But its just for heavy phone user.
In your case, if you don't use internet related apps or web browsing you can pretty much opt for a normal phone as it comes cheap and can save battery. Android or any other Smartphone is only useful for those who uses Social Networking or Instant Messaging, etc. And if you feel like you want to shift to Android after purchasing a normal phone, its do-able because normal phones like Nokia 109, Nokia 114 etc. costs much less.
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As of these days smartphone pricing is going down day by day, and its better to hav one if you develop apps. One point we dont know when an emergency mail has to be sent or receive only by your smartphone 3g .
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Thanks I thought of the same points. But rather switching later thought to make my switch now.
S3freak said:
You don't need one its that simple
So many Roms so little time
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Pennycake said:
It's up to you.
Personally, I've found plenty of times it's much easier to do something internet-related on my phone rather than get out or bring my big, heavy laptop. I used to do that. Get lost, need directions, et cetera ? That meant pulling over to somewhere with free WIFI. Having a smartphone means you just need to pull over anywhere - or use voice commands/have a passenger do it/just be unsafe/et cetera.
I used to have a point-and-shoot camera and the only time I've used it since getting my new phone with a decent camera is to take a picture of the phone itself. Why carry around a bunch of stuff when one small object can do it all ?
With my smartphone I hardly ever text any more since I can use data IM services. Not really essential, but it gives you options. I also find typing on the touchscreen to be faster and easier thanks to Swiftkey 3. I had phones with a physical keyboard before and I don't miss it.
If you are getting a carrier upgrade or considering buying through eBay or the like, I think a good question is "why not" ? You can get a good enough smartphone for pretty cheap and get a feel for it.
One thing I love is things like Astrid tasks - I can have it instead of a grocery list, et cetera - I won't lose it because my phone is something I always check to have with me instead of a piece of paper. I can carry it while getting groceries unlike a whole laptop or even computer. It's also incredibly easy to take notes at times when getting a whole laptop out would be ridiculous. You can make notes of things to remember and add calendar events that sync to your desktop/laptop. I have my phone syncing to three other devices so that just like not having to carry an extra camera, I don't have to manually transfer everything on physical media.
Sure, I don't NEED to play mobile games, but... why not ? Even my mom likes Android gaming. My phone plan is LESS than my talk + text plan was with Sprint, it's not like I'm paying extra for this. I keep a book or two on my phone because why not, it comes in handy when needed and it doesn't cost me anything. I watched a bit of a show on Netflix while waiting for a friend - so much faster and easier than setting up a whole laptop in my car and trying to get a WIFI signal strong enough. I'm so pleased that I'm paying less money and getting so much more - my last phone couldn't even go on-line, let alone stream HD video over 4g.
I like being able to search for answers to "when is Sears open until" or "nearest liquor store" or "I haven't seen a road I recognise for ten miles" - and be able to get directions. Yeah, it's silly, but it's pretty great. I had to drive once to a friend's parents' house - somewhere I'd never been. Instead of getting arduous turn-by-turn directions, I could just get the street address and Google Maps lead me there without needing to keep my friend on the phone while driving. My friends and I routinely use the navigation since even if you know where point B is, you might not immediately know the best way to get there from point A - saves gas and time.
I would disagree that you don't need it for app making. Not technically, no - but how can you really be a good app-maker if you don't understand the user and what the user wants ? You can read about it, sure - but you're not going to have the best tools to be creative and innovate unless you have it in your hands and understand the unique challenges and logistics that come with actually using a smartphone. It's like if doctors only read books and never interacted with sick people under instruction before being "on the job" for real. You learn so much by having hands-on experience that might be easy to overlook or not consider otherwise.
My dad had a flip-phone until recently. He asked the same question, "why" ? Now he wonders why he ever said "no". Yeah, he has a laptop required for work and a lot of other things, but it's just the little things that it adds - the options, getting rid of extra gadgets, making life a little bit easier when you'd have been paying for the phone service anyway - why not ?
Could I get by without it ? Definitely. But why would I give it up when it's actually saving me money ?
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:good: Thank you so much for the time you took for giving me a reply. I don't want to earn from making apps. I'm a free and open source developer and my profession is linux (for now ). Using map is one of my conserns. I don't like playing games on mobile as due to tiny screen. Even playing angry birds on mobile is less effective than using a large monitor. So I'm not conserned about it.
About shopping list. Well I have a similar idea to develop a free app for keep tracking things you do.
Again thank you very much. Your very explaintory answer have opned new use cases for me. God sake you are a good technical writer. May I ask you, are you a QA or Analysist? Because you know how to reply and give use cases.
Thank you guys. I guess I found the answer. But one more small problem. is buying android 2.3 device Alcatel OT-903 will be enough? It's a low price phone and if it didn't worth it I wouldn't be too much worrying.

theLolipro said:
Thanks I thought of the same points. But rather switching later thought to make my switch now.
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:good: Thank you so much for the time you took for giving me a reply. I don't want to earn from making apps. I'm a free and open source developer and my profession is linux (for now ). Using map is one of my conserns. I don't like playing games on mobile as due to tiny screen. Even playing angry birds on mobile is less effective than using a large monitor. So I'm not conserned about it.
About shopping list. Well I have a similar idea to develop a free app for keep tracking things you do.
Again thank you very much. Your very explaintory answer have opned new use cases for me. God sake you are a good technical writer. May I ask you, are you a QA or Analysist? Because you know how to reply and give use cases.
Thank you guys. I guess I found the answer. But one more small problem. is buying android 2.3 device Alcatel OT-903 will be enough? It's a low price phone and if it didn't worth it I wouldn't be too much worrying.
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Honestly I wouldn't buy any phone with 2.3 and down them were the worst of android days when they were working out the kinks ICS and up is awesome but if you plan on putting a custom ROM on it it won't matter as you can get the latest version just make sure the phone has good devoloment. Even the crappiest of phones can be turned into a awesome device
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I agree with Pennycake. One other thing that I would like to add is that with the convenience of having a smartphone you will find yourself using the features a lot more then you anticipate now.

I do not understand what do you mean "normal phone"?; since Android is already a standard of a phone.

OP - You know what answer you would get if you come and ask it an android forum!
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OP - You know what answer you would get if you come and ask it an android forum!
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Maybe some Apple spy are on this forum and trying to tune the Android users back to IOS
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Thanks for replies again.
bbrad said:
Honestly I wouldn't buy any phone with 2.3 and down them were the worst of android days when they were working out the kinks ICS and up is awesome but if you plan on putting a custom ROM on it it won't matter as you can get the latest version just make sure the phone has good devoloment. Even the crappiest of phones can be turned into a awesome device
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Well since I'm a linux developer I'm willing to try out the hacking and cracking in hardcore way. But the problem is how to determine whether the device can be installed with 4.0 ? I found that on this forums there is custom rom for alcatel phone but is it available for OT 903-d ?
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I agree with Pennycake. One other thing that I would like to add is that with the convenience of having a smartphone you will find yourself using the features a lot more then you anticipate now.
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Yes that something I'm not willing to do. I want to keep my life simple. You know enjoy the life away from tech. I'm now seriously addicted to computer and developments and I wanna get away from that.
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I do not understand what do you mean "normal phone"?; since Android is already a standard of a phone.
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Good one
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Yes but I want to get a satisfactory answers and persepective from experiance user. What they are using it for etc.
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Never. I'm more linux fan. Never going to be jailed and sacrifise my freedom. I might try Ubuntu phone but definitely not some crappy os.

well ive tried blackberry, iphone 4/4s, nokia and androids. GB, ICS... i like androids the best. it let u roam free to ur imaginations. lots of possibility.

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LOL that was for me?
I said that positively. I own an android too.
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Of course you should go with android phone. Now a days android phone are available in very affordable price with all latest features.

Android has much more advantages of apps and stuff and mobility.. you'll never know until you buy..
But then again, Firefox Os and Ubuntu Os are coming up..
If you're a Linux fan, May be wait for an Ubuntu mobile Os i.e.,if you can wait.
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May be you can borrow android or normal phone in your friend, and try it. it will help you to make the decision.

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Well since I'm a linux developer I'm willing to try out the hacking and cracking in hardcore way. But the problem is how to determine whether the device can be installed with 4.0 ? I found that on this forums there is custom rom for alcatel phone but is it available for OT 903-d ?
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Well let's put it this way I have a 3yr old phone a Samsung fascinate the first galaxy's phone to come to verizen its over 3yrs has a single core hummingbird proccesor. You would think this phone sucks right? Nope you know 4.2.2 only came out like 3 days ago we already have it lol and our phone beats most dual cores its amazing what good devoloment and we have over 10 ROMs just for 4.x any its do easy to work no locked anything now if you want a phone like that go with a nexus or Samsung Device There the only people who makes phones completely open no locked boot loader all it takes is a click to root and hundreds of ROMs so just asking as you get a nexus or Samsung device I think you will be happy.
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kamendra said:
Of course you should go with android phone. Now a days android phone are available in very affordable price with all latest features.
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This is so true since Apple is just keep making technology expensive and exclusive and dividing social classes while Android is always trying to make good technology for everyone. Just look at those Chinese companies like ZTE and Huawei, few years before, their phones are just CRAP and now as they all use Android OS, their phone just got a new life.

I would go with android phone. In my opinion it is better than the other operation systems and the phones that are using it are the best at the moment.

[Q] Is it Android or HTC?

Purchased the HTC One after the usb connection on my HD2 eventually gave out and it appears that was a BIG mistake.
I need a business phone that works well and syncs with Thunderbird, or if not Thunderbird I could go back to Outlook.
Cannot stand this horrible HTC One, nothing works well, most apps fall over, Google has it's scalpware fixed into everything, is it the phone or is it Android?
Should I go back to Windows?
Should I go for a second hand HD2?
I would prefer to sell the HTC and buy a new phone so any advice or recommendations would be most welcome.
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i think its more of an application issue rather than Android.
With what apps do you have problems?

larsjuh1987 said:
i think its more of an application issue rather than Android.
With what apps do you have problems?
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Hi Larsjuh1987
Mainly problems on business oriented apps like Leica Sketch and Car Dock apps.
With the car docks the main problem appears to be with the voice search, but it's to be expected because voice search has to go through google so they can scalp information. Fine in a country with adequate cellular coverage but I am in UK and the system can only be described as "third rate".
The app developers recommend getting around this by running the voice search on the phone, like my old HD2 and even older iPaq, but it's not available on this phone.
I am thinking a Windows 8 phone may sort this out but I have no idea if it has the ability to voice search offline.
This again is where apple score although it's not a good business phone.
I get the impression from developers that Android works on most phones, it's just the HTC One thats not very good.
Treated myself to the Plantronics Voyager Legend headset, fine on my old HD2 and my colleagues Galaxy but not on HTC One, so I am having to use an old Plantronics 510!
I wish I was more confident to load a ROM from XDA and get around the problem that way.
Thanks for your reply.

technoweary said:
Purchased the HTC One after the usb connection on my HD2 eventually gave out and it appears that was a BIG mistake.
I need a business phone that works well and syncs with Thunderbird, or if not Thunderbird I could go back to Outlook.
Cannot stand this horrible HTC One, nothing works well, most apps fall over, Google has it's scalpware fixed into everything, is it the phone or is it Android?
Should I go back to Windows?
Should I go for a second hand HD2?
I would prefer to sell the HTC and buy a new phone so any advice or recommendations would be most welcome.
Regards
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