Just forwarding to get peoples eyes on this. This was started by Evo 4G LTE community.
XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...t-petition-for-timely-kernel-source-releases/
Original Petition thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821328
Petition Link
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-htc-needs-timely-kernel-source-releases
We all know we hate how slow HTC has been on releasing Kernel source in this community. Doesn't hurt to try, I signed. Will YOU?
Because online petitions have ever worked...
Last time any petition has worked was when this guy named George Washington was alive.
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your right, petitions hardly, if ever work. It doesn't mean we just bend over and take it. It's a nice attempt by a group in the same situation we're in. I'd rather support it than look on from the sidelines.
WTFunk said:
your right, petitions hardly, if ever work. It doesn't mean we just bend over and take it. It's a nice attempt by a group in the same situation we're in. I'd rather support it than look on from the sidelines.
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Actually, about a year ago there was a petition against HTC for them to become more dev friendly... They agreed after a while. But then again they locked the bootloader on us and kept s-on anyway for this phone.
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Htcdev is just Window dressing. They should not have locked bootloaders in the first place. Android is supposed to be open. I'm sick of jumping through hoops.
gunnyman said:
Htcdev is just Window dressing. They should not have locked bootloaders in the first place. Android is supposed to be open. I'm sick of jumping through hoops.
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I can agree and disagree
With the option of an s-off bootloader to the regular user can be disastrous. Let's face it people can be idiots and they would blame it on HTC when they eff up their phones
With htcdev unlock as it is, its pretty much impossible to brick permanently with most phones. With s off however one simple mistake can be disastrous
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ECEXCURSION said:
Actually, about a year ago there was a petition against HTC for them to become more dev friendly... They agreed after a while. But then again they locked the bootloader on us and kept s-on anyway for this phone.
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They must have thought we'd just forget about it.
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Honestly don't think HTC will do anything or care at all but only took a second to sign online so I just did it. I would love if this worked though! JB source would be awesome for the JB roms that are coming out now!
I am currently working with gpl-violations.org on putting some pressure on them.
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c5satellite2 said:
I am currently working with gpl-violations.org on putting some pressure on them.
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fantastic. I couldn't figure out how to file a complaint. Thanks for going further than I did.
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I am currently working with gpl-violations.org on putting some pressure on them.
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Good to hear.
To everyone else I know it's unlikely to affect anything but take 30 seconds to sign. Let it at least be known that you still care.
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fantastic. I couldn't figure out how to file a complaint. Thanks for going further than I did.
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There is an email address on the site. I had to look for a while also.
Note to all, if you do email them, please don't spam them. Be polite and don't email repeatedly. They are helping us.
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Related
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/05/13/does-custom-rom-support-affect-the-buying-process/
....just to keep a eye out
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This has been known for a while .
I don't see this being a problem for very long especially on htc, considering that phones like the holiday will more then likely have international "brothers/sisters", that means there will be dev support worldwide working to break open a phones boot loader. I would assume the only reason it hasn't been done to the atrix, is because honestly the phone is a flop. Blur put a bad taste in everyones mouth and not alot of people want to mess with moto.
If you hit up other htc phone boards here on xda there are literally hundreds of developers working on htc phones. I have said it before where there is a will there is a way.
Atrix is no flop
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Locked bootloaders do much harm to the phones' sales. I like the sense rom but the default stock one comes with a lot of bloat and poor battery performance. I flashed the dilligaf's V2 rom and my phone now flies. When the manufacturers cannot unleash the full potential of the phone, why the hell do they have to lock their bootloaders for?
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Atrix is no flop
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That's not what the saturated dev section for the atrix tells me.
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Atrix is no flop
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Lol
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danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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HAHAHA! That's funny sh*t.
Anyways... If the manufacturers and Phone companies would actually leave the phones open, we wouldn't have this issue.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to do...build a recovery image right into the phone. If something screws up, they is a keypress sequence that would force install factory firmware. Bam...No more brick, and start over. I know I have reference the PSP in several other posts, but they did it right. Maybe the phone manufacturers should take a hint.
There is a PSP dev that goes by Dark_Alex... He created the "Despertar del Cementerio." This translates to "Wake the Dead." This was a service battery and memory stick combo that would literally UNBRICK your PSP. I actually have one, and have purposely killed the power during a firmware update to test it. And it works! Anyways, the point is...this is VERY possible with these phones, no one has done it yet tho.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Haha, I LOLed at work when I read this.
ATT seems to have something to do with this. If I hadn't been able to root my inspire I'd probably have returned it. Too much bloat. Bloated on a phone like that males it even worse (also I never liked MOTO)
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Well if its not rootable and cannot access recovery,then I don't bother. I was walking thru fryys when I saw the inspire and knew I had to get it. Trading my sgs vibrant+$150 for a new inspire sounded great to me. But I didn't think if the bootloader was unlocked or not. Luckily,it was. I got Lucky on this one
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HTC is listening, they released an update for our wi-fi problem and fixed a few more bugs. We all need to repeatedly email HTC and post on their FB wall. They have to fix this.
Accompany this thread with your complaints.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for and they are developing new ones as week speak for next year and they are probably working on the next version of sense. Why don't you fix it yourself if it's that big of a deal.
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What's there email?
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Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for and they are developing new ones as week speak for next year and they are probably working on the next version of sense. Why don't you fix it yourself if it's that big of a deal.
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...wow, just wow.
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Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for and they are developing new ones as week speak for next year and they are probably working on the next version of sense. Why don't you fix it yourself if it's that big of a deal.
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This is the wrong attitude to take. If my phone is shipped with software deficiencies, I expect the company that made it to fix them. Nobody said they were going to act like dicks. I for one have been nothing but respectful in my communications with htc.
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who is **** ? lol
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Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for and they are developing new ones as week speak for next year and they are probably working on the next version of sense. Why don't you fix it yourself if it's that big of a deal.
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Sorry to say, but the only **** here is you, sir. I didn't pay $550 for a device just so I can fix it myself. If no one says anything, HTC won't take notice. You can take your attitude elsewhere.
tian105 said:
who is **** ? lol
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Apparently I am, so is anyone else who posted on those 18 pages of complaints
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This is the wrong attitude to take. If my phone is shipped with software deficiencies, I expect the company that made it to fix them. Nobody said they were going to act like dicks. I for one have been nothing but respectful in my communications with htc.
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Exactly, we can politely contact HTC. There's strength in numbers.
htcvarona said:
What's there email?
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http://www.htc.com/us/contact/contact-us
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Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for
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Multiple phones, but only one flagship device... and this is it.
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Sknight just got lit up! LOL
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sknight13602 said:
Seriously acting like dicks won't make the fix come any faster they have multiple phones they are creating updates for and they are developing new ones as week speak for next year and they are probably working on the next version of sense. Why don't you fix it yourself if it's that big of a deal.
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Just gotta say I agree. Flooding their inboxes only slows their ability to help. While I do agree we need to contact them about this issue, we don't need to spam them like the OP encourages.
They are most likely already working on the issue.
Well I gotta say, this is not the way to go about things and this certainly isnt the type of threads we need on XDA...
Thread closed.
Just curious about this question - because I would really want to use this with T-Mobile.
So, a few days ago I noticed that an aquintance of mine was using an ATT Samsung Note with T-Mobile. I asked him - but you are only getting Edge (2G), right? So he says - "No! I flashed the GSM version modem, and I am getting HSPA+ (4G)", or whatever you call it.
I was shocked! Amazing solution.
Do we have this?
Thanks
Ever thought to read the other thread that's already open about this phone on T-Mobile?
We don't even have a bootloader unlocked and you're asking about flashing different radios. SMH.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONES WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE.
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Pirateghost said:
Ever thought to read the other thread that's already open about this phone on T-Mobile?
We don't even have a bootloader unlocked and you're asking about flashing different radios. SMH.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONES WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE.
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Sigh. If S-Off is ever achieved then it will be possible. All you need is a similar phone with the same SoC that has a T-Mobile radio. In this case a One S radio may allow an S-Off One X to work on T-Mobile.
ANYONE CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS IT DOESN'T MAKE THEM SEEM SMARTER THOUGH.
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Sigh. If S-Off is ever achieved then it will be possible. All you need is a similar phone with the same SoC that has a T-Mobile radio. In this case a One S radio may allow an S-Off One X to work on T-Mobile.
ANYONE CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS IT DOESN'T MAKE THEM SEEM SMARTER THOUGH.
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hey smart guy,
where did i say that it wouldnt be possible with S-OFF?
i said we dont even have an unlocked bootloader yet......
LOUD NOISES
Sigh.
Pirateghost said:
hey smart guy,
where did i say that it wouldnt be possible with S-OFF?
i said we dont even have an unlocked bootloader yet......
LOUD NOISES
Sigh.
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Hey other smart guy, you never said that but there is nothing wrong with someone asking a question. If they already made the thread they obviously haven't read any other possible threads so there is no point in not answering the question. I get people need to search but the thread is already here.
And when I say other smart guy I mean it in a respectful way because you gave a respectful response.
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Hey other smart guy, you never said that but there is nothing wrong with someone asking a question. If they already made the thread they obviously haven't read any other possible threads so there is no point in not answering the question. I get people need to search but the thread is already here.
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Cool story bro.....
got anything else to add?
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Cool story bro.....
got anything else to add?
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Ohh good one. As if no one has ever said "cool story bro" before. All he did was ask a simple question; would have taken less time to give an actual answer than to chastise him.
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joshnichols189 said:
Ohh good one. As if no one has ever said "cool story bro" before. All he did was ask a simple question, would have taken less time to give an actual answer than to chastise him.
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worthless post is worthless. as worthless as this thread.
/endthread
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worthless post is worthless. as worthless as this thread.
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Yours was the worthless post because it contributed nothing to the thread.
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Yours was the worthless post because it contributed nothing to the thread.
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i like you
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i like you
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I like you too.
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I like you too.
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you sure do got a purty mouth
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you sure do got a purty mouth
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Aww danke. I use Colgate.
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As stated earlier, we are not able to flash alternate radios for this device. Thread will be closed.
Please refrain from off topic posting, posturing, and arguing in the future.
So I got a new att HTC one x last week for 9.99 from att. I love it! But now I'm liking the Lumia 920 and the x+ that's coming out this Friday for 200. I still have a week to exchange my phone...what should I do?
I already rooted and have cm10 running. And I'm happy other than battery life. But that's ok I always have a charger near by. I only like the true Google experience and hate the sense ui. But I did like my old wp7 phone. What should I do? Keep my one x or exchange it for the one x+? Our the Lumia 920?
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If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.
If you have to ask what you should do, then you shouldn't.
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Nobody can make up your mind
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borguesian said:
If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.
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This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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Just scared my dog I lol'd so loud
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Better off selling it at this point, that is if you don't really want it.
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I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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+1 for that haha.
I took my first one x back after 4 days to get the grey one. I had it unlocked and rooted and all they did was open the box, check for the charger, phone and USB cord. They do ask if you rooted the phone. I told him I didn't know what that meant, then he processed the return *your results may vary
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+1 for that haha.
I took my first one x back after 4 days to get the grey one. I had it unlocked and rooted and all they did was open the box, check for the charger, phone and USB cord. They do ask if you rooted the phone. I told him I didn't know what that meant, then he processed the return *your results may vary
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lol I would love to work for a carrier... First thing I would do is load the bootloader up and check, but also boot the phone up just incase. Then if i see a custom rom, tempered/unlocked bootloader I'll just laugh and procede with the return/exchange.
Android to wp8 won't be a sweet transition so i would say that you go and get x+ if at all they happen to take it back !
Myrder said:
This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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Good job reading the actual question and contributing to the actual conversation! At any point did i ask for any advice about my rooted rom or my unlocked bootloder? I was only asking advice on the physical phones.
borguesian said:
If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.
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Completely different things. Rooted does not mean unlocked.
Myrder said:
This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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Have you ever taken anything back to an att store? If it's in the first 30 days all they look at is to make sure your phone is in pristine condition and they exchange it on the spot. I'm only looking for advice whether i should trade up to the one x+ or not. I guess all everyone cares about on this forum is the at&t "warranty"
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Make your mind up, choose one and live with it.
I don't get these threads, how would we know what is going to work for you.
As well, there will always be something better coming out so YOU really have to know what YOU like an want and stick with it a bit.
WR
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Completely different things. Rooted does not mean unlocked.
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smh
Unlocked bootloader...
Galaxy Note II
I say wait till windows OS matures (maybe a generation after this one) because they don't have many important apps in their market ecosystem, currently. HTC One X is a good phone and you won't miss much except for the wireless charging plate included in the Lumia 920; uses the same processor too.
I'm deciding between the galaxy s 3 and the HTC one x atm
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http://www.pocketables.com/2013/01/...e-for-hosting-roms-ruus-trademark-issues.html
Basically this guy is being told to remove his custom ROMs and tell the lawyer where others can be found. If HTC is going on a witch hunt we need to help out devs over there. Those of you with twitters there are links at the end please let's put some pressure on these guys for answers.
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This news just put nail on the coffin.
Along with Apple products, HTC has just put them on my DO NOT BUY LIST.
Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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stoopendis said:
Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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Yeah I have read a lot about them. Huge pita
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stoopendis said:
Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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i dont get it, they get it for free from google then they try to lock it down with their own crap, gotta love sammy for the sr, the easiest phone to do what ever the f**k you want
I had to root and flash a HTC evo once and it took me a few hours to do because they go out of their way to make it complicated. Lovin' sammy...
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I had a Captivate Glide before the Skyrocket, both phones were easy to flash. Count me as another who will boycott HTC.
Rooting my old Inspire was insane. Gold card and all. The skyrocket was a walk in the park in comparison.
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Guys the point of this was to get people to put some pressure on HTC by contacting them for answers both over the twitter links at the bottom or by email if this is going how it sounds its not just on HTC users but everybody to let them know we won't stand for it.
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Guys the point of this was to get people to put some pressure on HTC by contacting them for answers both over the twitter links at the bottom or by email if this is going how it sounds its not just on HTC users but everybody to let them know we won't stand for it.
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Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.
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Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.
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If there is a larger volume of people on them about this it may at least get then to give us a response as to why and possibly cause them to back off. They are playing a strange hand that I think its in everyone's best interest all over who care about development to watch this and fight it as it won't only affect HTC it could go further.
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If there is a larger volume of people on them about this it may at least get then to give us a response as to why and possibly cause them to back off. They are playing a strange hand that I think its in everyone's best interest all over who care about development to watch this and fight it as it won't only affect HTC it could go further.
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I agree, most people play follow the leader and if they see how easily a dev and community can be pushed around it won't be the last time.
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AW: HTC going too far help this dev.
Buy SONY...
They release guides in their own forum for rooting & flashing, and support cm devs.
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Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.
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if i put cm on a htc phone, how am i infringing on their sense ui, can i not put linux on a pc that came with windows, the contract we have is with our carriers not with htc, the contract is to pay them monthly for x amount of time
vincom said:
if i put cm on a htc phone, how am i infringing on their sense ui, can i not put linux on a pc that came with windows, the contract we have is with our carriers not with htc, the contract is to pay them monthly for x amount of time
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This isn't about aosp that's clear because the OEMS are obligated to release their kernel source and Google has no issues with their ROMs.
But this could affect Sony, Samsung, lg, and anyone else after they see we can be pushed over so easily their generosity may come to a screeching halt. People like mohan and seanz could end up on the receiving end of lawsuits if this slides. Our options for roms other than aosp could become stock only. I know you guys aren't so short sighted to think this couldn't affect us in detrimental ways.
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mrro82 said:
Rooting my old Inspire was insane. Gold card and all. The skyrocket was a walk in the park in comparison.
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I forgot about that! Rooting my htc made rooting my kindle look easy.
Anyway- if someone wants to start a petition... I will sign it.
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Buy SONY...
They release guides in their own forum for rooting & flashing, and support cm devs.
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This right here
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This right here
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That's support for cm devs what about people who build stock based ROMs again you guys aren't seeing the picture here
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