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[SOLVED] [Q] Nandroid Recovery on D2G help

I'm asking for some advice because I haven't found that much info on doing a Nandroid recovery for the d2g in particular, and as a newbie in the Android world, would like some advice before I mess something up. Thanks in advance for your patience.
I recently rooted my d2g using z4root so that I could disable bloatware, underclock (undervolt?) my phone for better battery life, use tethering, and maybe look into installing ROMs (Fission?) later once I'm sure it's safe (once the SBF is on d2g?).
The first step one should take upon rooting a phone, I've read, is to do a Nandroid backup. I couldn't find a recent guide on doing one, but read that one could be made using Clockwork ROM Manager through the recovery option. I downloaded the manager and chose the 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' option for the Droid 2 (I was confused between the Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global at this point, but since found out they are quite different), but before rebooting into recovery read something about ClockworkMod not working on the d2g. I wasn't sure if this was just the ROMs or the recovery as well, but I was scared of bricking my phone and so went ahead and ran the 'Bootstrap Recovery' of Koush's Droid 2 Bootstrapper, which I read was compatible with the d2g. My phone works fine for the time being, but I'm wary of rebooting into recovery in case I botched something up.
Was flashing the ClockworkMod Recovery a mistake? Is running Koush's Bootstrapper or ClockworkMod Recovery my best choice right now? Is the backup option in the new Fission ROM Manager I've been reading about the best way to do this now, or is that entirely different? Is a Nandroid backup even a step I should be taking right now? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Alright well I got it working. Here's my take, keeping in mind I'm new to this.
Was flashing the ClockworkMod Recovery a mistake?
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I'm not sure if this was a mistake or not, but I don't think it was necessary. Other guides suggest just running Koush's Droid 2 Bootstrapper. I don't think running the ClockworkMod by itself works on d2g, as it needs the bootstrapper to load.
Is running Koush's Bootstrapper or ClockworkMod Recovery my best choice right now? ... Is a Nandroid backup even a step I should be taking right now?
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Running a recovery was probably a good first step after rooting, as it is invaluable in case you botch something up. This was especially since I decided to install the Fission ROM (though the SBF being released makes it slightly less critical, the backup is still a good idea.
Is the backup option in the new Fission ROM Manager I've been reading about the best way to do this now, or is that entirely different?
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It turned out the backup option for the Fission ROM Manager was essentially just running the Bootstrap Recovery ClockworkMod backup, so it seems it would be the same thing. I made one beforehand directly anyways by booting into recovery through the bootstrapper.
I'm now happily running Fission 2.4.3 and all that fun root stuff.

adridge said:
Alright well I got it working.
I'm now happily running Fission 2.4.3 and all that fun root stuff.
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sounds good you could place "[SOLVED]" in your thread title so mods know to lock it and people helping know it's solved.

Good call. I've added it now.

[Q] Rooting, Rom and Kernel Flashing

Hi All,
Been doing reading of the various forums and about to delve into rooting and rom flashing from my transformer. Currently i am running stock 3.1
From what i have been able to tell there are two methods to root. CWM and NVFlash.
I haven't been able to determine what the major differences between them are.
my understanding is that CWM makes it easier to flash multiple roms with out losing data.
whereas if you use nvflash all the data on the device is wiped.
can anyone confirm/correct me?
CWM requires the use of a SD card, whereas NVflash does not
can anyone confirm/correct me?
I have seen that a ROM=OS+Kernel, so if you wanted a different kernel you have to do it after the ROM is installed.
Since I am on 3.1 my choices are:
A. use CWM. I would need to downgrade to 3.0 then i can install CWM and the normal root process
B. Flash with NVFlash directly?
can anyone confirm/correct me?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

CWM isn't a rooting method. It's a way to flash roms, kernels, make backups etc.
The root methods are the original cmd line method with the flashing blobs etc. and the nvflash rooting method.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

Also since there is no cmd line way of rooting the original 3.1 rom you have two options.
1. Downgrade back to the original 3.0 rom and root using cmd line method. Not that hard.
2. Nvflash, which is straight up easy. DOWNLOAD a tar file with some images, get into nvflash mode and run a script to apply a rooted rom and it installs CWM for you.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?

SangreSlayer said:
So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?
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everything is correct.
As for as then what....wait for the newest roms and flash that. try some kernels, roms and always make backups.

When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?

SangreSlayer said:
When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?
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no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.

He's talking about nandroid backups.

david279 said:
no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.
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these are called nandroid backups in CWM world...

Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now

SangreSlayer said:
Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now
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Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.

I got a newbie question on android rooting/custom roms, currently mine is stock unrooted. Going through the rooting process would all of the current apps and everything be wiped? next if installing a custom rom is there a method to keep all of your applications without having to reinstall/lose of data?

Taxnl said:
Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.
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What are you taking about? It doesn't get any easier then this. Try making a gold card and come tell me how hard this really is. Psssh make it easy

nvflash make it easy, but I enjoy flashing via CWM. Not sure why?

While we wait for the poster's update on how it went, I would appreciate it if someone would help me with two very simple rooting questions:
1) Is it possible to root my Transformer without flashing a new ROM? IE, just override the security to allow the user to have root access and use root required apps.
2) Is it true that the Transformer is still running the android cell standby service, eating up most of the battery life while in standby mode? Can this be removed with root access?
Many thanks

Sorry for the delayed response.
Flashed it and it was real easy as I suspected.
It updated the rom and rooted it and everything.
There are a couple of issues (Browser has crashed 3 times, whenever i press the home button it is putting me on the first screen instead of the middle one and the SOD) but I believe it has more to do with my ROM (Prime 1.5) than the actual flashing process.
Another question I have has to do with CWM, do i need a SD card to use that method to flash a new rom?
Thanks!

This thread convinced me to flash. Didn't know I could like my tf that much more.

[Q] So I think it is time to root this thing Can someone help out this noob

So I waited for the GB update and I like it but I think it is time to root this phone. I want to stress that I have had this phone since a little bit after it came out about two weeks after and it has run like a champ from day 1. No problems at all so when I updated to gb it was actually a downgrade in some ways like the camera but I definitly like gb because of the text editing but I havent noticed any improvement in battery life or speed or signal or GPS but All thouse things were great before and they are great now.
So I am running GB 2.3.3 withthe july 15 baseband and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I know it is different to root but I dont fully uinderstand it so if someone can post a detailed guide with as much explanation as possible so I understand what I am doing I would greatly appriciate it. I assume you cant get NV flasher from the market (I Havent looked) and what is cwm or cmw and if I flash a new rom will I loose the new baseband? Or can I get root permissions and keep stock GB? Tahnk you for all your help

First read the sticky at the top of the Android Development page. That sticky basically explains everything you will need to know, step by step.
In summary though....
Step 1 - NVFlash (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847)
Step 2 - Download Xboarders Rooted OTA.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748)
Step 3 - Boot into Clockwork Recovery
Step 4 - Install Zip from SD Card - the Zip you downloaded above
Voila you have rooted GB 2.3.3 with new baseband.
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3

jabhome said:
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
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I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.

pdxmatts said:
I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
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Did not try Xboarders tweaked, maybe I will give it a try.
Does swype work on that rom as phone just took a dump with swype beta. First reboot in over two months just now.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk

Follow the advice above. I flashed a rom for the first time today.
Does the Netflix app work on xboarder's rom? I'm having issues with HDMI on CM7 going out about every 5 minutes but coming right back. I really need the netflix app for travel.

+1 on xboarders. Runs smooth and has all of the stock features
Sent from my LG-P999

thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie

So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie

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mojorisin7178 said:
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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If you have the new baseband now no roms will change that.
The roms do not include the baseband .

mojorisin7178 said:
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
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I flash from my external SD Card. You just need to decide where you want to install from, and then make sure you set up NVFlash with the correct support, external or internal.
Not sure of the exact terminology, but I think the procedure itself would be called to NVFlash ClockworkMod. NVFlash is the procedure to install CWM, while CWM is the program that you will run via Volume Down + Power when you boot up. CWM 4.0.0.2 will boot up and from there you will be able to flash roms, backup and restore Nandroids.

Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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CWM doesn't "contain" root permissions, it just allows you to flash any ROM into the phone, rooted or otherwise. The Xboarder ROM is pre-rooted, along with most of the others.

THANK YOU!
I too am a noob and was a little confused. I'd search the forums and come up with too much info. Plus, some terms used on this forum are slightly overloaded (in the C++ context) from the classic meanings, like "ROM" and "baseband". Those terms as used here do not mean exactly what they meant 20 years ago.
I'm sure I need to read more on app dev (but I have too many hobbies already), but I'm confused about the layers of s/w. As a noob, I would think the layers would be BIOS or maybe BSP, Linux, Android. So I don't understand:
1) where does the clockwork mod fit within the layers?
1a) nvdia nvflash installs new drivers in the Linux layer?
2) what is contained in the ROM image? A new version of Linux, andriod, nvdia drivers, baseband?
3) Is there a BIOS/BSP, or is all register access done in Linux drivers?
I'm not looking for a developers level answer to these questions, more of the readers digest version of the answers.
Since I'm having black screen of death (I believe referred to here as "SOD"), on two phones, I'd like to understand more, to figure out if this problem is h/w or s/w. I am definitely leaning towards s/w problems and my wife and I would love to keep these phones.
Thanks again.
-Bob

mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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Continuing off of what Spyvie said, you do need to flash xboarder's rom to gain root, (more like repeating what he said). As for nvflash, this should make things a bit easier. tgagunman made a nice one click feature that if you follow the directions, should be easier to follow. You will get clockwork mod recovery, it will be nvflashed, but it's a lot easier for a non-techie to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847

I want to thank everyone who chimed in you guys have been really good to me Bob has some really good questions also and I hope this thread can help you out bob. That is why I started this thread for people like me who are really good with computers and like to mess around but don't quite understand phones. Every time something goes wrong with my PC I go to the forums and I fix it myself then I feel good. (And I have had some real disasters on my PC I have come back from)
Anyway I will be doing this procedure soon as I feel confident that I can do it and I see there is a fix for unbricking phones. One last question before I hit the green light: Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled? I suspect that since the ROM is pre-rooted that all I would have to do is format and install my original ROM then uninstall CWM is that on point or no? And Again THANKS TO ALL WHO CHIME IN WITH THE ANSWERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO CHIME IN WITH THERE QUESTIONS.
Charlie

Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled?
Charlie
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You can restore you Nandroid of the preroot OTA, or you can unroot with the unroot zip that Xboarder provided in his link.

mojorisin7178 said:
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
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no, there is nothing else you need to do to your computer. The link provided by the brother above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847) is where you need to be. Skip the one click root and go straight to NV flash. It will guide you through installing the nvidia drivers you need. TGA_Gunnman has is laid out really nice and easy to follow and the program he put together (one click clm recovery nv flasher) is really simple to understand and use. he also has another post out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715) that is also helpfull. Once you get nv flash done make sure you copy the rom you want on your sd card. IMO Xboarders is very nice and smooth. You will hold down volume down and power together until you see the android screen. Then in the menu use vol keys to move to backup and restore and use power to select. Then move to yes and run the backup. then you can wipe data/factory restore. Then wipe cache. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvic and batt stats. Then go back to "choose zip from sd" and find your rom zip and select it. It will run for a while and tell you when its done, Then go to advanced again and fix permission. After that just go to reboot option and let it reboot. It may take a little longer the first time, just let it go. When it reboots you will have a rooted 2.3.3 with the new baseband you just updated to. After that go to the market and get Titanium Backup and run a backup of all your apps and data. From there your pretty much good to start flashing away. Have fun, Good luck

Questions about using Bootstrap on Atrix 2

I feel monumentally stupid asking this question, but I've run out of options. I have tried searching first, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to phrase the search and most of the search results are for non-Atrix 2 phones, so I don't know how reliable the information is.
My previous phone was an HTC Evo which was fully rootable and unlockable etc., and an HTC Evo 3d which was fully rootable and unlockable at the time I managed to do it (apparently the 3d goes through phases where it is, then phases where it isn't, depending on its updates). My basic and non-technical understanding of the Atrix 2 environment is that becauase the bootloader is currently locked, the backup/restore/flashing solutions have to perform a few tricks to work.
So from what I can tell in the dev forum, there are currently two ways to backup and flash roms. There is safestrap, which apparently isn't quite working yet, which partitions your microSD card and runs everything from there -- essentially when you boot your phone it tells the OS to boot from the microSD card which effectively lets you treat your Atrix 2 as a fully unlocked and rooted device with a remarkably large and well-configured recovery partition. Unfortunately, according to the title of the safestrap thread, it's not quite working yet, and a few of the roms posted in the development forum specifically say not to use it.
OK, so bootstrap. It was updated as of Jan 1. If you have already rooted your Atrix 2 (I have) then it throws up a menu that lets you boot into recovery, and it will install (I think this is my understanding) a custom version of ClockwordMod Recovery? But you can't get there from boot, you have to boot into Android and then reboot back into the recovery environment.
Is that correct?
If that is correct, then my next question is what happens in the hypothetical scenario where you install a rom, something goes wrong, and you want to restore a previous backup but you can't boot into Android?
There's something I'm missing about how all this is supposed to work and it looks like it's something so obvious that nobody actually talks about it in the threads -- or when they're talking about it, I don't actually realize that's what they're talking about so it doesn't register.
Anyway. Thanks for your time.

There's a script in the thread that gives you cwm on boot. The catch is it goes to recovery first EVERYTIME you boot.

ubersoft said:
I feel monumentally stupid asking this question, but I've run out of options. I have tried searching first, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to phrase the search and most of the search results are for non-Atrix 2 phones, so I don't know how reliable the information is.
My previous phone was an HTC Evo which was fully rootable and unlockable etc., and an HTC Evo 3d which was fully rootable and unlockable at the time I managed to do it (apparently the 3d goes through phases where it is, then phases where it isn't, depending on its updates). My basic and non-technical understanding of the Atrix 2 environment is that becauase the bootloader is currently locked, the backup/restore/flashing solutions have to perform a few tricks to work.
So from what I can tell in the dev forum, there are currently two ways to backup and flash roms. There is safestrap, which apparently isn't quite working yet, which partitions your microSD card and runs everything from there -- essentially when you boot your phone it tells the OS to boot from the microSD card which effectively lets you treat your Atrix 2 as a fully unlocked and rooted device with a remarkably large and well-configured recovery partition. Unfortunately, according to the title of the safestrap thread, it's not quite working yet, and a few of the roms posted in the development forum specifically say not to use it.
OK, so bootstrap. It was updated as of Jan 1. If you have already rooted your Atrix 2 (I have) then it throws up a menu that lets you boot into recovery, and it will install (I think this is my understanding) a custom version of ClockwordMod Recovery? But you can't get there from boot, you have to boot into Android and then reboot back into the recovery environment.
Is that correct?
If that is correct, then my next question is what happens in the hypothetical scenario where you install a rom, something goes wrong, and you want to restore a previous backup but you can't boot into Android?
There's something I'm missing about how all this is supposed to work and it looks like it's something so obvious that nobody actually talks about it in the threads -- or when they're talking about it, I don't actually realize that's what they're talking about so it doesn't register.
Anyway. Thanks for your time.
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In the situation that you describe, even the CWM on boot that mtnlion mentioned, still may not get you into CWM. In that case your ONLY option is to flash the fxz file with rsd lite, that will restore you to a full stock out of the box atrix 2, which you then have to re-root, then re-install bootstrap, then restore your backup.
Sorry there is not an easier way right now, but until the bootloader is unlocked we can't flash CWM, so that we can get to it, as you would the default android recovery, because that does require the default recovery to be replaced, and an unlocked bootloader is required for that to work.
Safestrap is really a tool that is only useful to those actually developing, or people that we have asked to test something out, and since lfaber06 and I don't have a version to release to the public that we are happy with yet, that is not an option.

Oh!
So you install bootstrap, then you install the script, and when you do that it basically acts like a grub menu? That makes sense.

ubersoft said:
Oh!
So you install bootstrap, then you install the script, and when you do that it basically acts like a grub menu? That makes sense.
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No, if you get a bad flash you still may not be able to get into CWM, since it requires files that are actually in the Android ROM, to fully work. Read my post above ^^^

Heh. Apparently I started posting at about the same time you posted your detailed explanation...
Thanks for the additional information. Based on that, it looks like I need to wait a bit longer before mucking about with my Atrix 2. Thanks for the update!

ubersoft said:
Heh. Apparently I started posting at about the same time you posted your detailed explanation...
Thanks for the additional information. Based on that, it looks like I need to wait a bit longer before mucking about with my Atrix 2. Thanks for the update!
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No, it is perfectly safe, but the restore is just a little more complex than you had to deal with, with other phones. I have done exactly what I mentioned above SEVERAL times, with out issue, since I am doing a ton of dev work on this phone.
The ROMs that are out there are great right now, and lfaber06s ROM is really good, and I will be releasing a version of CM7 very soon. If you wait for a bootloader unlock, it may never come, or at least it may not be very soon.
The worst thing that happens is that you have to flash the fxz, which it is documented how to do that with RSD lite very well in the noob thread here. then you can restore your backup with out issue, it is just a few extra steps.

Bootstrap is really safe as is all of lfaber06 Roms right now. I have no problem recommending either of his roms to anyone. They are both very good. As Jim has stated the only problems we have is if something wrong happens on boot, but with the fastboot files, RSD lite, and the one click root method you have everything available to get you right back to where you were before you flashed.
I can promise you everything works very good as I have soft bricked my phone so many rimes in the last 2 weeks that I have become very efficient at getting back to stock, rooting and then flashing a backup with bootstrap and can be back in business n around 20 mins. Just always be near a computer when you start flashing things. One thing that will help out is to keep a backup of the bootstrap on tour SD card so if you have something go wrong you don't have to redownload it again.
We have a very good group of people here and if anyone has any problems we can get you through them and back running

Well there we are then!
So after getting a clearer picture of the situation (thanks for the explanation) I blocked off most of the night, installed bootstrap, then installed lfaber06's Supercharged v4. It took forever, but it worked flawlessly.
Thanks everyone for your patience and encouragement.

Phone is about to go THRU THE WINDOW

Ok so this is more of a rant than anything. This fumblin phucking phone is constantly rebooting on me, shutting programs while i am using them, freezing. BATTERY dies quick, phone gets hot when in use....
The only thing I have done to it was rooted it, using that one click program, very easy process (couple months ago.)
What can I do???, has any of you did something? This phone is stock. I used to have a Galaxy S CRAPtivate and I was a flashaholic (btw that phone was sh*t compared to this one even with the freezing) but I see MOTO wont unlock the phone so i was wondering does that mean I can't change roms like I did on my old phone? I also would like to know what bootload means because i have that installed too and dont know what that is? I am sorry for being a noob! and yes i did read the N00b section lol

Where did you find the bootload that you installed, I'd like to check that out. As far as the rebooting, have you tried a factory reset? And what size / class sdcard are you running?
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TheWreckHER said:
Ok so this is more of a rant than anything. This fumblin phucking phone is constantly rebooting on me, shutting programs while i am using them, freezing. BATTERY dies quick, phone gets hot when in use....
The only thing I have done to it was rooted it, using that one click program, very easy process (couple months ago.)
What can I do???, has any of you did something? This phone is stock. I used to have a Galaxy S CRAPtivate and I was a flashaholic (btw that phone was sh*t compared to this one even with the freezing) but I see MOTO wont unlock the phone so i was wondering does that mean I can't change roms like I did on my old phone? I also would like to know what bootload means because i have that installed too and dont know what that is? I am sorry for being a noob! and yes i did read the N00b section lol
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-First, let's just calm down a little bit...
-Now, let's make sure you actually have an Atrix 2, not an Atrix 4G. What does Settings -> About Phone -> Model Number say?
-You installed "bootload?" I assume you mean "bootloader?" Where is the guide you followed to do this?
-Yes you can change ROMs with a locked bootloader, but you can't directly change modify the kernel. So it's hard to build any ROMs aside from derivative stuff (based off of stock Moto ROMs)
-What size/class microSD card do you use?
-Have you installed any apps/changed ANYTHING on your phone recently? Are you on GB 2.3.6 or 2.3.5?

If there is one thing I've learned since I'm back to stock waiting for the soak test to actually start is that stock sucks big time both in terms of battery life and overall stability (I've had a lot of stability issues with a lot of apps, even the stock music app(!) that I haven't experiemced in custom Roms)
I highly recommend installing a custom ROM. I've made pretty good experiences with ROMULUS (pretty much fantastic ROM) and Lithium.
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Preggy said:
If there is one thing I've learned since I'm back to stock waiting for the soak test to actually start is that stock sucks big time both in terms of battery life and overall stability (I've had a lot of stability issues with a lot of apps, even the stock music app(!) that I haven't experiemced in custom Roms)
I highly recommend installing a custom ROM. I've made pretty good experiences with ROMULUS (pretty much fantastic ROM) and Lithium.
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+ 1 for Lithium
Sent from my Atrix 2 on the ICS Leak running SCv7.

Opps not bootload... I mean what is this Atrix 2 Bootstrap? I read over and over and I cannot find the definition of Bootstrap.... I was thinking it was like Clockwork and puts the phone into the boot screen? I never used it yet. The phone was reset to factory a few months ago, maybe I need to do it again? I have a 16gm memory card. I do have a atrix 2, I have both atrixs as a matter of fact, mb865. the only guides i used was the noob guide on here and i only rooted and installed this atrix 2 bootstrap. I have 2.6.35.7
i hate this friggin thing right now lol.. i will put a rom on it if that will fix this damn thing

I like to muti-task. I have ADD . this phone is not doing its job, I am starting to think no phone will. I HATE APPLE! I do not want a new phone lol. I want this to work! lol
Thank you for helping me so far, I havent done anything to it. I just play my little world war game, then i check my email, then i go to my texts and then it STOPS, (not in any particular pattern but it happens every hour.) Sometimes it restart when in idle, I see the stupid moto red circle from across the room and AHHH I get so mad lol.

TheWreckHER said:
Opps not bootload... I mean what is this Atrix 2 Bootstrap? I read over and over and I cannot find the definition of Bootstrap.... I was thinking it was like Clockwork and puts the phone into the boot screen? I never used it yet. The phone was reset to factory a few months ago, maybe I need to do it again? I have a 16gm memory card. I do have a atrix 2, I have both atrixs as a matter of fact, mb865. the only guides i used was the noob guide on here and i only rooted and installed this atrix 2 bootstrap. I have 2.6.35.7
i hate this friggin thing right now lol.. i will put a rom on it if that will fix this damn thing
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The Atrix 2 Bootstrap .apk is the door opener to allow the flashing of CWM Custom Recovery on boot. You have to install the Bootstrap .apk, run it by clicking the first button, then the second. It will reboot your phone into recovery, where you can flash the CWM on boot Recovery found (use the ON BOOT WITH QORKING GPS on found in the forum here). If you're wanting to flash a custom rom, you will have to have these measures in place first, as this is the only way to install any rom. Please note that some roms are flashable .zips, and others are CWM backup images. Be sure you know what you are doing for each rom that you attempt to install. All of the necessary instructions will be listed in each thread for each of the roms available...
From the n00b's guide:
CWM is a custom recovery program that allows you to backup / restore a full or partial system backup of your device. It also allows you to install flashable .zip files; which is one of the primary installation methods for custom ROMs. It also provides other neat features such as cache wiping, battery reset, and other processes. Long story short, if you are thinking about flashing custom ROMs or just want a really good backup program, incase you FUBAR your device, you need to install this.​
For Atrix 2 Bootstrap:
1. Install the RazrBootstrap.apk
2. Select "Bootstrap Recovery"
3. Superuser will prompt for permissions
4. Select "Reboot Recovery"
When the phone reboots it will boot up into Clockworkmod Recovery.​
Again, to get the CWM ON BOOT WITH WORKING GPS look for it in this forum. Sorry, I'm being lazy and don't want to search for it myself...