motorola defy pro - HTC ChaCha

so i use my chacha, but it's a really old phone with a silly amount of memory. i assume everyone else here sticks with it simply for the keyboard which is fantastic. i just came across the defy pro from motorola and see that it is coming to rogers. is anyone else considering this as a viable "upgrade" to the chacha? it looks like a ruggedized chacha with a better processor and hopefully more memory. any thoughts for an upgrade path? portrait qwerty selection is getting sparse...

I don't like the look of it. Plus its Motorola so the bootloader will must probally be locked.

Like the Trackpad,
1. But still, it's Ugly :silly:
2. We need a bigger screen + a trackpad, i think samsung made one?
3. Link to phones with keypad; http://goo.gl/xfu6L

stayfidz said:
Like the Trackpad,
1. But still, it's Ugly :silly:
2. We need a bigger screen + a trackpad, i think samsung made one?
3. Link to phones with keypad; http://goo.gl/xfu6L
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samsung is coming out the the galaxy chat, but it is really low specd; more so than the moto defy pro. the other galaxy pros are really poor too. super low res screen.

I'm also thinking on switching to this phone. its great, except for the screen/camera/RAM , its better than Chacha. i love chacha, but, low memory , short battery life , as a matter of fact the most annoying thing is the battery, i cant stand to charge it 1-2 times per day.... sorry but 1700mAh and 1ghz procesor and 1gb internal memory are more than enough for me to buy defy pro , and get rid of chacha.... dunno, maybe thats just me .
And its not ugly at all, just different from chacha, which also was not the prettiest out there...and its the only curved phone )
Now it all depends on the price of the Defy Pro, we'll see when it comes out very soon.

not the prettiest ???
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hh, my friend bought this, just for the look - went from an iphone!, he is a hipster too -
2. Just get 2 batteries, wifi eat much, even with a sensation XL
3. The moto is year after, but still on ginger.
4- this thread is an AD for moto...

defy pro came out yesterday on rogers. looks aside (subjective), i dont see any reason why this phone isnt superior in every single way. i agree with musash1, the battery and snapdragon processor alone are worth the upgrade.
sure, gingerbread is a slight let down, but it's not like the chacha formally supported ics either. hopefully we'll get lucky and someone will port cm10 to the defy pro like they did to the defy. seems like it would have a larger dev community too...

jumpinglewis said:
looks aside (subjective), i dont see any reason why this phone isnt superior in every single way.
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does it have a notification led?

notification led like chacha that blinks for only 5mins. kek
..thats it i'm not buying defy pro, i cant stand ledless phone )

I'm sure that can be changed?
In getting one brought back from Canada in a few weeks. Retails at 275cdn I watched one on ebay close at over 575 plus post!
I'm not getting into sell just pointing out that getting one on ebay would be a dear way to go about it
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Bought one from Rogers last week - keyboard is terrible (too stiff), battery life is not as good as it should be (it's a 1700mah battery), phone is too thick compared to chacha. Good amount of buttons though! and good placement of d-pad (in the center).
Returned it and went back to ChaCha

afeudale said:
Bought one from Rogers last week - keyboard is terrible (too stiff), battery life is not as good as it should be (it's a 1700mah battery), phone is too thick compared to chacha. Good amount of buttons though! and good placement of d-pad (in the center).
Returned it and went back to ChaCha
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I WANTED a d.pad, but now, no, even the screnn of my chacha is good, small phone, easy in pocket, Just give a bad-ass battery, and remove the zoom function from apps.

So the defy is not a good replacement for chacha then.
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anyone try to root Motorola defy pro ? I try all the ways with no luck

afeudale said:
Bought one from Rogers last week - keyboard is terrible (too stiff), battery life is not as good as it should be (it's a 1700mah battery), phone is too thick compared to chacha. Good amount of buttons though! and good placement of d-pad (in the center).
Returned it and went back to ChaCha
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sooooo sad. i was hoping the keyboard was going to more rim-like and less motorola pro+ like. moto keyboards tend to be very stiff, but i figured this was better. it was even rumored they licensed the keyboard from rim. i would have got one already if they werent going for 600+usd on ebay. i might reconsider getting it, but i might give it a go nonetheless. all these app updates are chewing up my chacha's tiny memory...

I don't speak for anybody with a chacha, but I bought the defy pro and am loving it, I've had my hands on the s3 and the note, but the defy is a great size and a great keyboard, it is a tad stiff but it's really not something that should prevent you from buying it. Everything on it is surprisingly zippy and smooth.

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anyone try to root Motorola defy pro ? I try all the ways with no luck
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Try in the Motorola forums. This the HTC forum section.

bodude said:
I don't speak for anybody with a chacha, but I bought the defy pro and am loving it, I've had my hands on the s3 and the note, but the defy is a great size and a great keyboard, it is a tad stiff but it's really not something that should prevent you from buying it. Everything on it is surprisingly zippy and smooth.
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good to know! i have to believe there are still a lot of people looking for chacha replacements and are trying to use bandaids to fix fundamental short comings.
please let me know if anyone is in canada and would like to ship one to me!!

Has anyone looked at the Samsung Galaxy M Pro? It has the same keyboard, better processor, and more memory.

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Has anyone looked at the Samsung Galaxy M Pro? It has the same keyboard, better processor, and more memory.
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Same processor, same memory, same keyboard, less battery, more expensive, not waterproof and dust/sandproof.

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HTC Desire HD or Samsung Galaxy S?

hope i'm posting this in the right forum...
Which should i get? Some thoughts:
HTC Desire HD
- i don't mind the extra size or heft compared to the SGS
- main concern was battery life, although it seems this is just a matter of removing some apps and/or calibrating the battery
- internal storage, while small compared to SGS, is not a big concern: 1.5Gb should be enough right?
Samsung Galaxy S
- main concern is the flimsy back cover...although the obvious workaround is to buy a hard case
- Gorilla Glass is a big plus for me
i really don't care much about the UI -- TouchWiz seems OK, Sense i hear is not too shabby either.
What do you guys think? tia
Well, I just bought new phone and I when I was in the shop just having a browse, I had my eye on a HD2 for a while so was time to get one. Still interested in seeing what new device were like I tried out a Samsung Galaxy S first.
My initial thought was how light it was, I don't like light phones as I feel like I'll lose it easier lol. Also I was looking for 4.3" screen phone and SGS doesn't have one. Also touch input seemed weird, maybe it was how light it was and I wasn't used to it.
I put it down and turned on the Desire HD. Wow, felt right in my hand perfectly and I can feel the weight and coldness from its aluminum body. Touch input was awesome, those capacitive buttons felt great too, first time I've seen them. UI was really snappy and seemed awesome compared to SGS.
Anyway, a few weeks of researching after that day I found myself with a Desire HD and I must say I definitely picked the right one. Love the phone.
Battery life is good but it really depends on what your doing. If the screen is going to be on all the time you will get about 6-8 (roughly) hours of gameplay/internet/video etc. But if not used hard it will last 2 days easily, this has been my findings anyway.
Storage is ok but you will want to get a bigger SD card as the bundled 8GB SD card is hardly enough, but for apps 1.5GB internal is more then fine.
It comes down to what you really want/need out of the phone. The Desire HD is a great pick.
I'm an HTC fan so I will go for the Desire HD plus when I checked it out and compared with Samsung Galaxy S, I liked the Desire more.
if gaming is a big deal for you...
samsung is a bit better with the graphics.. (though the bigger screen of the DHD is nice)
if not.. DHD all the way!
thanks for your comments B) my first choice was the Desire but heard the usable internal memory was just a few hundred Mb's. 1.5Gb should be enough for apps or updates and such
hmm, i noticed that the Desire HD's battery is mounted sideways; that battery cover seems flimsy. Does it come loose easily?
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hmm, i noticed that the Desire HD's battery is mounted sideways; that battery cover seems flimsy. Does it come loose easily?
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No, its perfectly fine. Before I bought it I saw heaps of people complaining how it doesn't go on properly but it must be their fault. I put it on properly and its sturdy and wont come off for sure.
Neither. Touchwiz, Sense etc is bloatware.
Have you considered the Nexus S?
yah, thought about the nexus s since i was planning to figure out what all this Android development stuff...i eventually passed on it coz
-- no expansion slot; the SGS seems to have more value
-- i don't think it's available here(Philippines)
To be honest, i'm leaning more towards the SGS now; a hard case should deal with the flimsy back cover issue. Too bad, i wanted to go HTC since development is quite active; but with 10 million SGS units sold, i think there should be enough developers out there to pump out custom ROMs B)
Still, thanks to all that replied. Much appreciated B)
Galaxy s vs Htc Desire HD please help
I's my first post so Hello to everybody !
I'm just buying new phone - please advise me if is it worth to pay £240 more (£25/ month vs £35 over 24 months) for HTC Desire HD over Samsung Galaxy S???
Samsung S
-£240 cheaper over 2 years
-better screen
-8GB memory
HTC Desire HD
-better performance
-aluminium body
-I'm going to root the phone immediately after the buy,
-I'm not using phone for games but I'm expecting decent overall performance.
-At the moment I'm using rooted HTC HERO wit 2.3 android
Thanks
Marcin
Well I have bought a few months ago a samsung galaxy s, then I passed thru desire, nexus one and the next one will be desire HD. I'm going to compare the 3 I've had already.
Galaxy S:
-Great phone, super fast and a good performance, great screen also.
-I personally dislike the touch wiz. I like to use sms popup which the touchwiz blocked with the puzzle unlock.
-Disavantages: No photo flash and back cover.
Desire (normal AMOLED one):
-Good phone also, the sense it's pretty good. Screen it's not as good as the galaxy s one. Performance ok also. It recieves regular updates like the other.
-Main disavantage? Not many, but I didn't get used to the scroll, maybe because I used it less time than the others but it's something.
Nexus OnE:
Well, in this particular model, I have tto day I've had 3 pieces, all of them different.
The first was an american AMOLED unlocked nexus, good phone, always with the latest updates. Screen not as good as the SGS one.
The second and third are vodafone models. One with the AMOLED screen and the other with the SLCD. The first one has a little bit more contrast but I guess I like the SLCD colors. They are stronger and brighter.
When compared to the desire, the sense is missed over here but it's better that touchwiz. I personally like the scroll ball but this is owners choice.
Must say the SGS is the only that actually CONTROLS decently the contrast. When you get off your house he administrates it very well. The HTC's fail sometimes when it comes to this particular thing.
The american nexus broke up the power button and I have no warranty paper, let's hope the guys at HTC fix him. It's a well known problem. Don't know if desire has that problem has they are the same model but when you buy a nexus you have to get some program to change the unlock key.
htc is better than ss galaxys(king of color)
I vote for the Desire HD, smooth panel.

Question about updated 2011 WP7 minimum chassis requirements...

Tried doing a quick search on internet and XDA (on my phone) and reading through stickies, but the Q&A/FAQ tread isn't working...
but as far as the new 2011 changes, was the only thing that changed the addition of the MSM7X30 chipset? I couldn't find anything else changing besides that, and oh yeah...the lower 480x320 (i think) resolution. Am i missing anything, or was it just those two things?
More info here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/04/14/new-windows-phone-7-chassis-unveiled-msm7x30-and-msm8x55/
from here:
-Qualcomm second-generation MSM8x55 running with the more powerful Adreno 205 GPU or Qualcomm MSM7x30, both at a minimum speed of 800MHz.
-Microsoft stays with the 800×480 resolution of a 3.5-inch touchscreen, the five megapixel camera and the 8GB minimum built-in memory.
-A minimum 256MB RAM is required and an optional Gyroscope sensor can be provided.
cool, thanx guys. i guess unless someone comes out w/ some markably improved hardware, i'll stick with my focus for the full two years. might be the first time i've ever not upgraded after every year (WM handsets basically forced me to do that...)
simbadogg said:
cool, thanx guys. i guess unless someone comes out w/ some markably improved hardware, i'll stick with my focus for the full two years. might be the first time i've ever not upgraded after every year (WM handsets basically forced me to do that...)
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I cannot see a compelling reason to switch from my focus. Performance is top notch already. Sure more toys would rock but meh... it's working perfectly fine as is.
TIGGAH said:
I cannot see a compelling reason to switch from my focus. Performance is top notch already. Sure more toys would rock but meh... it's working perfectly fine as is.
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yeah, totally agree. there's nothing on the market that is heads and shoulders above the focus. unless at&t get's a decent phone with a keyboard like the arrive (that LG phone is terrible), i'm sticking with this for the long haul
simbadogg said:
yeah, totally agree. there's nothing on the market that is heads and shoulders above the focus. unless at&t get's a decent phone with a keyboard like the arrive (that LG phone is terrible), i'm sticking with this for the long haul
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Have you looked at the Dell Venue Pro? I'd rather not have the physical KB but that phone looks awful slick (since the latest firmware update that is).
TIGGAH said:
Have you looked at the Dell Venue Pro? I'd rather not have the physical KB but that phone looks awful slick (since the latest firmware update that is).
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yeah great phone. i think it just went on sale (with att 3g bands) last week. but i got the phone for my girlfriend in january (she's on tmobile) she loves it. i like it too, not the biggest fan of portrait keyboards, but i'd still prefer that over nothing at all
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yeah great phone. i think it just went on sale (with att 3g bands) last week. but i got the phone for my girlfriend in january (she's on tmobile) she loves it. i like it too, not the biggest fan of portrait keyboards, but i'd still prefer that over nothing at all
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Two things stopped me from getting the Venue.
1) I couldn't just go to the AT&T store and pick it up (I needed a phone that day because my HD2 died)
2) and much more importantly - the camera is very meh. I take a ton of pictures and needed something a little better.
Other than that I would have liked to get the Venue. It's one of the most stylish phones I've seen in a long time.
i do wish HTC would make their next full keyboard phone a lil bit slimmer. its kinda a shame that the arrive, the touch pro 2, the touch pro, the tytn ii...have all been almost exactly the same in thickness, whereas slab phones are literally getting slimmer every 6 months
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yeah, totally agree. there's nothing on the market that is heads and shoulders above the focus. unless at&t get's a decent phone with a keyboard like the arrive (that LG phone is terrible), i'm sticking with this for the long haul
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Personally, I like the LG Quantum. I wish the screen was a little bigger...
simbadogg said:
yeah, totally agree. there's nothing on the market that is heads and shoulders above the focus. unless at&t get's a decent phone with a keyboard like the arrive (that LG phone is terrible), i'm sticking with this for the long haul
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I also love my Quantum; the phone fits perfectly in my hand, the screen is neither too big nor too small, and I have a hard keyboard if I for some reason don't want to murk up my screen. I agree the keyboard isn't the most fantastic, but it's mostly there for the "just in case"s.
Though I won't say I wouldn't ditch it for the Arrive, given the chance XD
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Personally, I like the LG Quantum. I wish the screen was a little bigger...
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Yeah, screen size was a turn off but I feel the same way about the focus. I got really used to typing on a 4.3" screen. That .3 makes a big difference IMO.

Looking to buy triumph but need opinions and feedback

Hello all, I've been with virgin mobile for about 2 years now and I've owned the LG otimus v and HTC wildfire s, I currently own HTC wildfire s and I'm not liking it, I'm thinking of buying the triumph. So my question is how do you like the triumph? What is the good and the bad? Should I buy the triumph or wait for new virgin mobile phones to come out? I ask here cause members here no phones more then regualr internet reviews so I want to ask the people that no this phone in and out
NookColor Cyanogenmod 7.1 "Overclocked"
Well, I have to say I have a love/hate thing going on with my MT.
I would say my biggest disappointment is battery life. I know Android doesn't get great life, but out of the box, this thing will last maybe 5 hours in your pocket. I use juice defender and can get about 15 hours in 1 charge with medium-light use.
Reception is a little spotty sometimes, I get about 80-95dbm everywhere I go. When I had my OV I would get 75-85dbm.
One thing I really do like about it though is I have never had any major issues with software. Hardly anything ever FC'd on me.
And the screen size and resolution is pretty nice, nothing to really jaw dropping, but way better than the OV.
Overall, I am happy I made the switch. Aside from my displeasure with Virgin Mobile, this is a pretty decent phone.
If you have any more questions, I'll be happy to try to answer them.
Sent from my Triumph using Tapatalk
Well I have the MT, although I switched to T-mo, because where I am VM service isn't the greatest. So I have a MT4GS, so my opinions might be b bit biased because of that although I have had the triumph longer...
Good: Fairly fast processor, flash support, led flash on camera, gorilla glass screen, 4.1" screen, HDMI out support, lots of dev support, virtually unbricakble, can record in "720p".
Bad: ****ty touchscreen that barely recognizes 2 touches, VM speeds aren't that great (at least for me), blue tinted screen (at least on mine and other people have complained about it), regular lcd screen, capacitive buttons, no dedicated camera keys, speakers aren't that great, screen will sometimes be whitewashed or graphically screwed up (turn screen off and on and its fixed), Touchscreen ignores touches at times, rebranded, the 720p capture isn't that great mainly this and pictures are because of a POS camera sensor.
It may seem like there are lots of bads, but they really aren't that major if you don't play a whole lot of games, because this touchscreen is not made for that. Its ultimately up to you to choose. VM may or may not come out with a phone anytime soon that has equal or better specs than the MT, so if you want to wait you can, but the MT isn't all that bad. I've had mine for a few months and rooted it, installed custom roms, etc. My main problem is where I live I get horrible service on my phone and with T-mo I get a near perfect signal and 4G! Its definitely a upgrade from the OV (I used to own one), the wildfire its an upgrade in some aspects I haven't owned it so I could only tell you on paper its better.
Great info both of you, thanks to you two my mind has been made up and I will get the triumph, perhaps when the price will go down a bit, I just bought the wildfire s so I'm gonna wait a bit, but hopefully soon I will be over in this part of xda
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Android311 said:
Great info both of you, thanks to you two my mind has been made up and I will get the triumph, perhaps when the price will go down a bit, I just bought the wildfire s so I'm gonna wait a bit, but hopefully soon I will be over in this part of xda
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Or even better. On android forums where its more active
great ill look over there
Ok well those guys aren't wrong, but my Triumph has all the issue's that many people have reported maybe it's because i bought it when it first came out. Anyway my Triumph has crap reception but theres an app for that lol, also some roms make my phone hot as hell & the battery charging sucks, sometimes it won't charge & i have to go through all this bull**** to get it to charge again. On the other hand i would never go back to the Samsung Intercept this phone is a beast when set up right so i guess it's a love hate relationship for me & the Motorola Triumph.
O I see, I'm sure its way better then my wildfire s....god I hate my wildfire s, Idk y virgin mobile would even allow this to be sold to there customers
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that bad huh ? To be honest i think it might be my phone my wife has one & hers seems to be good, so i guess it's a crap shoot on if you get a good one or a bad one.
That's true! The virgin mobile HTC wildfire s has a diffrent design back door so you can't buy extended batterys and hard to find nice cases, all the good stuff is on the gsm phones (tmobile) phone feels cheap, i can't stand sense roms bad battery life to small lol and it goes on....
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HTC wildfire s vs LG optimus v, I'd chose the optimus v
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Good to know about the HTC wildfire though, i was gonna get my mom one but i think i'll pass on that. Don't wanna deal with another UNDER CONSTRUCTION phone all the time LOL.
jaaydogg said:
Good to know about the HTC wildfire though, i was gonna get my mom one but i think i'll pass on that. Don't wanna deal with another UNDER CONSTRUCTION phone all the time LOL.
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What phone of VM's isn't under construction? I think the only solid android phone they had was the OV all the others seem to have some major problems at times.
My motorola triumph, the samsung intercept i had it seems most of VM's phones have problems.
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My motorola triumph, the samsung intercept i had it seems most of VM's phones have problems.
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Yea seems like it. The only phone I didn't have any problems with (besides VM's network being slow as hell), was my rumor touch. Then when the OV cam out I didn't have any major problems. The MT doesn't have major problems on my end, but it does have a lot of minor problems that shouldn't be there. Not to mention a touchscreen that barely recognizes 2 touches on both the MT and the OV. That's one thing I hated about them.
Have you removed the crappy stock screen protector ? Not the peel off one that's on it right out the box. Did this to mine & had Ghost Armor put on it & now the touch response it fantastic.
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Have you removed the crappy stock screen protector ? Not the peel off one that's on it right out the box. Did this to mine & had Ghost Armor put on it & now the touch response it fantastic.
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Yea I did. I put a zagg invisible shield over it, but now since its not my main phone anymore I took it off so I just use it with the glass.
And it still has touch issue's huh ? I guess add it to the list of BS this phone can provide us LOL. On the other hand i had zagg protector on my triumph too, Ghost Armor is better & guaranteed for life.
Ya I was thinking about selling my wildfire s to go back to the optimus v, although I don't like the wildfire s but that's only my opinion, I'm not telling any one not to buy it but just my thoughts of why I don't like it, but if some want to try the wildfire s give it a shot
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And it still has touch issue's huh ? I guess add it to the list of BS this phone can provide us LOL. On the other hand i had zagg protector on my triumph too, Ghost Armor is better & guaranteed for life.
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zagg is garaunteed for life too. And its a hardware issue. The digitizer is a pos either that or the phone just can't track the fingers either way if you put both fingers together on the same horizontal area the axis snap together tel you move further apart. Get a visual touch test app and you'll see what I mean.

[Q] Upgrade to which phone?

Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I'm sorry to tell you, but I think you are at the wrong place. Everyone here likes his desire s.
If you need a big screen, try galaxy note or use pc
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Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I would advise you to wait for the Mobile World Congress before upgrading... you'll have many more options within a couple of months...
But if you still want to upgrade now, here's my input :
1. Sensation : ? Why would you want to consider that? It's an average phone, and from whatever time i've spent on it on my friend's phone, it's nothing to write hone about. Does anyone even remember the original Sensation anymore (Especially after the XL and the XE?)
2. The SGS2 is a very very fast phone, with great hardware, but i have two issues with it : The screen has a bluish tinge to it, and colour reproduction is inaccurate across the spectrum. Secondly, it looks like a plastic business card holder
3. The Galaxy Nexus is a lovely looking device, the form factor is very attractive. In my discussions with zeekiz (who bricked his DS and migrated to the GN) he says he loves the phone and it's not slow or anything like you mentioned. Plus, you'll be the first person to get the next Android version update (Jellybean). Thirdly, it always makes sense to go for the newer device, both for the gains in hardware, as well as company support that comes more easily and lasts longer for newer (especially) flagship phones.
Best of luck choosing your next device!!
Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Just a small note here, with my experiance the 3.7' of the Desire S is the largest screen size for a mobile that I can -almost- fully use with one hand, whenever you go beyond that, you may have to get used to work with both hands, and that made me drop the sensation in favor of my DS
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I came from a HTC Sensation to the Desire S as i found the Sensation too big. Surprisingly i have found the Desire S not much slower.
I would also wait for the MWC...but if you can't wait, IMHO Sensation is a good device especially after it's rooted and equipped with the custom ICS based roms made for the XE version (with CPU at 1.5 Ghz)...i think capy's work.
Anyway you have a lot of roms to try even with ICS out there.
Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
Galaxy Nexus has a good screen and it's not slow but i think it's a little big, you will clearly need 2 hands if you want to use it properly.
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Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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Right on! Exactly my thoughts about the SGS2. It feels like a business card holder!
Wait for mwc and HTC edge if price isn't the big deal
Otherwise, i personaly would buy a sensation, the gs2 is sure a nice device, but like mentioned above the screen isn't the best and the plastic body feels weird.
The galaxy nexus isn't a device for me, there are 2 dealbreakers at my opinion, even if the resolution is better than at the gs2 the grapic chip is wors and there is no sd slot.
The update cycle is sure a point and the nfc also, but for my opinion it's a pure developer phone.
The sensation is from hardware almost the same like the sensation xe and every rom can be exchanged between those 2 devices, there is no nfc, for sure, but the gs2 also haven't got one, so this isn't a point of interest for you i think.
Also even if all of them have them same frequenzies the sensation runs at a stock speed of 1.5 ghz with an xe rom, so it got the highest frequency of those phones.
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yeah i'd wait for MWC but if not galaxy nexus for all the reasons above. It is definitely not a slow phone, especially since google probably built ICS for the nexus. The only thing i hate about the nexus phones is the fact that they're always released at awkward times. By awkward, i mean right before all the new hardware comes out. My brother has an S2 and it does have a horrible plasticky feeling. While the galaxy nexus is the same, it seems to hide it better. The white S2 is even worse! It has no grip on the back which makes it absolutely horrible to hold, not to mention a liability too.
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
From what I'm hearing about HTC's line-up for MWC, I hope they also announce a sensible phone. At the moment I really don't know what I'll get, as the current rumours all seem to have several problems for me.
1. Screens too big.
I have a non-upgradable 2.5" thumb. I've spoken to my network provider but they wont give me a larger one. I do not want to have to change grip or use two hands to turn screen on/off. The DS screen size is perfect. It is fine watching films on Netflix.
2. Quad core. Really?
Does anyone remember the Coca-Cola/Sprite stunt yo-yo's from the eighties? (Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.) They were a massive craze when I was at school. They came in two versions. "Standard" and "Pro". The Pro ones cost nearly twice as much. Why was that? It was because the Pro version had "Pro" written on the side. That was it. They were the same size and weight as the standard version. But every kid in my class practically sold a kidney to get the pro version, because to show up in the playground with the standard version stood you out for ridicule, and everyone was certain the Pro version could do better stunts. What is quad core going to give us? How often is it going to be running on more than 2 cores? Can it do better stunts? My single core phone can render web pages quickly, run any game I've asked it to, record 720p video at 30fps, and has a smooth and lag free UI. It just doesn't have "Pro" written all over it. That word seems to brain-wash kids into doling out dosh! Kids love the idea of being "Pro". Look at what every premium version of any app on the Android Marketplace is called.
3. Skinny form-factors
Leading to phones being bendy and having a non-removable battery. I like my solid aluminium DS. I've held the SGS2. It feels like a kinder surpise egg. Squeeze it too hard and I worry it'd break. Plus if we are having to have a (pro) Quad Core phone don't we need a bigger battery? Did you know the HTC Edge has a fifth core (super pro) that is a very low power companion core for when the phone is off in your pocket? Turn your phone on (without dropping it changing your grip to reach the button) and expect laptop battery life from the 40nm chip. Will it come with a Pro Charger?
4. No SD Card slot.
OK most of the phones with these also claim built-in 32GB storage which is fine for capacity, but what if I brick my phone larking about on XDA? What if it just packs in? Currently all my music/photos/documents would simply be removed and put into another phone. If it's built-in and your phone wont boot.....Are the cloud-storage sites encouraging phone manufacturers to do this?
5. Build Quality.
HTC seem to have really dropped the ball with this one. They used to be fantastic. However I know 3 people who have bought the DS since September (on my recommendation) and all of them have been back for repair at least once. One of them died for the second time two nights ago with the dreaded eMMC chip failure again! WTF? Did they replace the faulty board with another one prone with the same weakness? She also waited 6 weeks to get that phone back the first time. I feel guilty now. Also check Amazon for the reviews of the DS. Since September it's started getting a load of 1 star reviews and they all read the same. It seems I was lucky in buying my DS on it's release, before it seems HTC moved production to the local wine bar/crack house. There is no way I'm spending £450 on something I'm not confident will last a year or will take me 6 weeks to get repaired.
If HTC...no if ANYONE announce a phone that has: A screen under 4", solid build, removable battery, SD card slot, improved camera optics, decent amount of RAM, reasonable battery life and justifiable processing power, then I'll get my wallet out. Or if it comes with a free Pro Yo-Yo. They do better stunts.
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
(Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.)
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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Brilliant!
Love the rant (and i thought i was the only one with this illness)
I agree on mostly everything you've said above... especially HTC screwing up on its strengths... build quality, sub-par components, and progressively bloat-ier (i know that's not a word) Sense... Though i'd still buy an HTC instead of a Samsung, all things set aside, they do better stunts!!
Yeah. Your words seem to come right from my mind.
a desire s pro would be really cool
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If i had the choice, i'd choose the sensation in a heartbeat.
First, it has the beat build IMO. The SGS 2 is too plasticky and since it's far too thin, it feels weird in my hand. The galaxy nexus is waaaaaay to big. The sensation is perfect
Second, HTC Sense. It is just too good and i can't get a device that has no chance of getting Sense. Besides, touchwiz sucks and the stock experience on the nexus can be acieved through an AOSP ROM.
That said, the super amoled screen is quiet good ad a plus point of both sammys.
That said, i recommend you wait till MWC. Something awesome will surely come up. There is a thread, full of leaks on the two upcoming htc devices, the One X and the One S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476788
it has to be the htc amaze, i think its a great phone, in addition to that htc has quality in its build, as in our desire s the aluminum feel is way better than the plastic in most samsungs

HTC One Mini - is this phone really dead?

I have a question. For me One is the most beautiful Android smartphone ever released. Dunno why but that's true. I'm tired of those similar Xperia phones or ovoid Samsungs, they are ugly (really no offence that's just my opinion) However One it's quite too expensive and quite too big for me so I was happy when I dicovered One Mini. I've read some reviews already and I noticed people mostly complaining about low RAM or that One Mini should be smaller One with the same specs. Now I'm entering One Mini section on XDA and what I see. Topics about how this phone is already dead or why it isn't so awesome like One... Not much topics of new roms, mods (or maybe it's just a matter of time, I hope so) It saddens me because I wanted to buy it new as my first, serious, recently released smartphone... Now I have an old Xperia PLAY so you know... So my question is: Is this phone really that bad? I suppose there will be a big difference between One mini and my old phone but I would feel bad knowing that I could choose better phone in that price... you know it's not a small price. Nexus 4? I heard it's nice, it has got many updates, but it is limited (?) naked without for example awesome sense 5.0 and other multimedia things... Are there any One mini user on this forum? Can you use Facebook, listen to music, browse Internet at the same time? And then play Asphalt for example without having forced to go into killing other apps? Thank you for your answer
Sorry, English is not my native
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I have a question. For me One is the most beautiful Android smartphone ever released. Dunno why but that's true. I'm tired of those similar Xperia phones or ovoid Samsungs, they are ugly (really no offence that's just my opinion) However One it's quite too expensive and quite too big for me so I was happy when I dicovered One Mini. I've read some reviews already and I noticed people mostly complaining about low RAM or that One Mini should be smaller One with the same specs. Now I'm entering One Mini section on XDA and what I see. Topics about how this phone is already dead or why it isn't so awesome like One... Not much topics of new roms, mods (or maybe it's just a matter of time, I hope so) It saddens me because I wanted to buy it new as my first, serious, recently released smartphone... Now I have an old Xperia PLAY so you know... So my question is: Is this phone really that bad? I suppose there will be a big difference between One mini and my old phone but I would feel bad knowing that I could choose better phone in that price... you know it's not a small price. Nexus 4? I heard it's nice, it has got many updates, but it is limited (?) naked without for example awesome sense 5.0 and other multimedia things... Are there any One mini user on this forum? Can you use Facebook, listen to music, browse Internet at the same time? And then play Asphalt for example without having forced to go into killing other apps? Thank you for your answer
Sorry, English is not my native
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Someone just asked a similar question which I replied to reguarding the development issue, you can read it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499138
It's a beautiful phone. I think they should have given it 2GB of memory, but it isn't too big of a deal, it's just as fast as any Android phone with 1GB of memory. I don't have Asphalt, but I can run Pandora, Facebook, Google Play, Robot Unicorn Attack 2, and Chrome with 1 tab open fine. If I open more than 1 tab then Robot Unicorn Attack 2 will reload when I switch back to it. I also have avast! Free Mobile Security, Smart Wifi Toggler, No-Frills CPU Control, and the Contacts and Messages apps running in the background. For a 1GB phone it multitasks just fine, but it won't multitask as well as a phone with 2GB (obviously).
Are you choosing the HTC One Mini for the size or the price? Reason I ask is because the difference in size between the One Mini and the Nexus 4.
Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section
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Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section
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hello ma_ko
you dont do anything wrong with buying this phone. i have my MINI 3 months now and i cant tell anything really negative.
i like this long format of the display. its nearly 16:9 format widescreen but not full. i think its 16:10 or something like that.
the phone i a bit long yes, unneccesarily. they could do it a bit shorter, so you could handle better with one hand.
but overall i like my phone very much.
It is not slow, i can hear music and surf beside. this is no problem. you dont need to worry about the perfomance .
I think 1gb ram is more than enough, i never had problems..
You are right. There are no custom roms yet, but they WILL come in a few weeks i think, at least CM 4.3 Nightlies
EdiBese said:
hello ma_ko
you dont do anything wrong with buying this phone. i have my MINI 3 months now and i cant tell anything really negative.
i like this long format of the display. its nearly 16:9 format widescreen but not full. i think its 16:10 or something like that.
the phone i a bit long yes, unneccesarily. they could do it a bit shorter, so you could handle better with one hand.
but overall i like my phone very much.
It is not slow, i can hear music and surf beside. this is no problem. you dont need to worry about the perfomance .
I think 1gb ram is more than enough, i never had problems..
You are right. There are no custom roms yet, but they WILL come in a few weeks i think, at least CM 4.3 Nightlies
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It's a 16:9 screen (1280x780). It's a great phone, you'll love it. Whether it's the best for you is up to you.
Another phone you might want to look at is the Moto X. It has a 4.7" 720p screen, but it's almost the same physical size as the HTC One Mini. The Nexus 5 debuts on the 31st, but that'll have a 5 inch screen so it'll be as big as the Galaxy S4.
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Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section
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The previous model of One Mini is One S from last year. The problem is One Mini isn't really a major upgrade to One S. In the end, most guys there on One S board(I would say almost all actually) decided to keep their One S. They also have a leaked official 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 from HTC, OS upgrade isn't a problem to them.
Clearly, it's not One Mini fault but fuxking stupid HTC Marketing to force people stay with old model. You don't have an One S, you are safe to get One Mini.
I love my one mini <3
I had a Huawei G300 prior to it and I wonder how I even used the thing! The HTC One Mini is so much faster and snappier, the speakers give amazing sound, it makes so much more sense to have stereo and to have the speakers at the front! I don't know but I think the design of it makes videos look better on it, when I watch YouTube videos for example, it's just really nice. xD
I put a clear silicon case on it so now it looks like the edges of the phone are made of glass (well to me at least), and I've changed the theme using the Themer Beta app
I took some pictures of it but it won't let me post them because I haven't got enough posts.. .-.
Anyway, I don't know, if you haven't decided on a phone yet, I think you'll be impressed by it. Also the camera is awesome.
The other kinds of phone designs, ovoids like you said look reaaaally outdated to me now.. I don't think I could go back to something like that!
The only thing I'd say is annoying about it is that it doesn't have a menu button, so you have to go from the top notification bar to go into the settings but I got used to it pretty quickly. Also I've heard that the plastic cracked for some people but that hasn't happened to me. Maybe because I had the case from the day I got it and I keep it in my bag so I guess it's safer..?
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The only thing I'd say is annoying about it is that it doesn't have a menu button, so you have to go from the top notification bar to go into the settings but I got used to it pretty quickly.
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You can set the home button to bring up menu from long press under display options.
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You can set the home button to bring up menu from long press under display options.
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Ohhh, so much better! Thanks for letting me know

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