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HTC Vivid - Now Available (Updated 11/7/11) and Obviously Getting ICS

I know a lot of people are interested in the Holiday, including me. Here's a pretty good look at it. Thoughts?
HTC Holiday for AT&T gets caught again in the wild
Exclusive: HTC Holiday for AT&T in the wild -- 4G LTE, 1.2GHz, 4.5-inch qHD display
(Update 9-7-11) HTC Holiday running on AT&T’s 4G LTE network photographed
(Update 9-21-11) HTC Raider 4G with LTE announced in Korea
(Update 9-29-11) HTC Holiday hits the FCC, ready to deliver AT&T's LTE to 3-percent of Americans
(Update 10-31-11) HTC Vivid coming to AT&T; HTC Vivid announced with LTE
Released 11-6-11 - HTC Vivid Specs
(Update 11-7-11) - HTC Vivid to receive ICS update

This article says "The device is expected to be one of the first devices to launch on AT&T's brand new LTE network this Fall."
Remember how our Inspire's were said to be "4g"?
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This will be my next phone. Have an upgrade waiting.
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fearwillkeepus said:
This article says "The device is expected to be one of the first devices to launch on AT&T's brand new LTE network this Fall."
Remember how our Inspire's were said to be "4g"?
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Last I heard regarding at&t plans for LTE was to have it launched in one market this year. Sad.

newter55 said:
Last I heard regarding at&t plans for LTE was to have it launched in one market this year. Sad.
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http://www.attinnovationspace.com/innovation/story/a7764994
The next network evolution will arrive this summer with the addition of LTE in five markets – Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta and San Antonio. We plan to add another 10 or more markets in the second half of the year, and cover 70 million Americans with LTE by year-end. We also have plans to add 20 4G devices to our robust device portfolio this year, with some of those being LTE capable.
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@tx,
That was their plan early this year. Summer is three weeks from being over and nothing. Haven't even seen any good rumors of an actual LTE phone heading to at&t.

newter55 said:
@tx,
That was their plan early this year. Summer is three weeks from being over and nothing. Haven't even seen any good rumors of an actual LTE phone heading to at&t.
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That is the way AT&T operates. They rarely pre-announce or communicate anything and always wait until the last minute to implement. Look how the rumor was hspua would be enabled in May, they waited until the last day of May. Gingerbread was rumored for mid summer and it was the first week of August.
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I guess I have just become somewhat jaded. When at&t purchased the largest regional carrier here over two years ago they did so with the promise of upgrading the network. They finally began turning on 3g only a few months ago in a couple markets with no new progress since then.
To make matters worse, their edge network has degraded/become saturated to the point that it is almost unusable. 60k/s when a year ago we could at least get 200-250.

fearwillkeepus said:
This article says "The device is expected to be one of the first devices to launch on AT&T's brand new LTE network this Fall."
Remember how our Inspire's were said to be "4g"?
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Our Inspire's operate on ATT's current 4G network, HSPA+. They are now getting set to roll out LTE as previously stated. Both are technically 4G, but they're different networks
The Nexus Prime would be awesome to have...knowing how much of a game changer the original Nexus was. But I've got a special place in my heart for HTC, and the Holiday is very comparable, minus the ICS

I'm lucky to get 2g living out in the sticks lol... as far as the drones thinking that apple invented touch screen with the iPhone I'll reserve comment

I don't know if I should get the Nexus prime or the holiday -_-
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My upgrade is up in March. Unless something else comes out that is better, or it looks like something else is coming soon around that time (Prefer a HTC product). I'll be getting the Holiday for sure. Unless the Inspire REALLY grows on me. =P

Remember the pentium d vs Athlon 64 x2? Intel stuck two Prescott pentium 4s on a die and called it dual core. Athlon was one giant processor with two cores. The cpu in the Holliday is like the pentium d in that it has two qualcomm-pimped cortex a8s stuck on a soc.the inspire is fast if you set it up right and I think any phone bastardized by att is like that.
Qualcomm has this little deal called Krait and it is awesome. It uses two cortex a9's that have been pimped by qualcomm. It also employs adreno 225 and if they can not screw up the drivers for it it should hang with nvidia's kal-el silicon or beat it. I also expect it to tentacle rape samsung's a9, exynos or whatever it is with the fury of an angry god.
I recommend waiting for this krait silicon and a 720p display.
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
I also expect it to tentacle rape samsung's a9, exynos or whatever it is with the fury of an angry god.
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Interesting, strong statement.
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Simba501 said:
Interesting, strong statement.
Sent from the most interesting device in the world.
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Literally lol

Bump......

homeslice976 said:
Our Inspire's operate on ATT's current 4G network, HSPA+. They are now getting set to roll out LTE as previously stated. Both are technically 4G, but they're different networks
The Nexus Prime would be awesome to have...knowing how much of a game changer the original Nexus was. But I've got a special place in my heart for HTC, and the Holiday is very comparable, minus the ICS
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Technically, HSPA+ is not 4G. HSPA+ runs on two separate stacks just like 3G. Even the current provisioning of LTE should be considered 3.9G.

knarfl1 said:
Technically, HSPA+ is not 4G. HSPA+ runs on two separate stacks just like 3G. Even the current provisioning of LTE should be considered 3.9G.
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At least we're almost there (3.9)
I'll be curious to see if there's been any improvement to the LTE chipset battery drain on the Holiday. Battery life on the HTC Thunderbolt with LTE enabled is pretty horrendous from what I read.

homeslice976 said:
Our Inspire's operate on ATT's current 4G network, HSPA+. They are now getting set to roll out LTE as previously stated. Both are technically 4G, but they're different networks
The Nexus Prime would be awesome to have...knowing how much of a game changer the original Nexus was. But I've got a special place in my heart for HTC, and the Holiday is very comparable, minus the ICS
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when i got my inspire 4G in June the lady at the AT&T store said that there will be an update for our phones that will enable LTE i dont know im kind of skeptical on that though so its still a WTF moment for me because they said we were getting LTE

squint986 said:
when i got my inspire 4G in June the lady at the AT&T store said that there will be an update for our phones that will enable LTE i dont know im kind of skeptical on that though so its still a WTF moment for me because they said we were getting LTE
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Again, technically, inspire can work on LTE stack but since it doesn't have the radio for it, it won't be able to take advantage of the LTE throughput.
the sales reps will conveniently leave that little part out when they tell you the Inspire will "work" on LTE stack. You have to ask them "oh yea? Will the Inspire actually work at LTE speed?"

does the voice use LTE or just data?

Never bothered to look this up and can't find any info on AT&T ...
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Lte is just for data. 2g/3g is data and voice.
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At some point when ATT has migrated all of their coverage to LTE capability the network will switch to LTE for voice. Neither ATT or Verizon use LTE for voice calls yet.
Likely within a decade they will turn off their traditional TDMA based GSM voice network altogether and everything will be on their LTE spectrum.
sassafras

I'm wondering if they'll throttle LTE during phone calls as well. Hmmmmm

pretty sure they only use gsm for calls, as people without data plans that have smartphones (dont know why they do that ) still make calls and text, just cant access teh interwebz

MattMJB0188 said:
I'm wondering if they'll throttle LTE during phone calls as well. Hmmmmm
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You will get 2g/3g during calls.
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nunyabiziz said:
You will get 2g/3g during calls.
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No you didn't get it. Even without LTE they slow down any connection when on a phone call to save bandwidth. You can be getting 6 mbps down and then make a phone call and barely hit one and the upload is like 0.00mbps.
Test it out. Immsuremit will be like that once LTE is voice enabled.

bimmerd00d said:
Never bothered to look this up and can't find any info on AT&T ...
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The current deployments of LTE are based on the LTE Release 8 with LTE used for data and 3GPP/3GPP2 (i.e. GSM/UMTS/CDMA/EVDO) for voice.
This will all change when the carriers move to the VoLTE (Voice over LTE), which is most likely a few years away.

enigma00 said:
This will all change when the carriers move to the VoLTE (Voice over LTE), which is most likely a few years away.
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Yes, from what I understand, there is no standard yet for Voice over LTE, the various stakeholders are still working this out, and its still a long ways away.
So for the present time (and near future), LTE is data only (and no voice) on all carriers.

MattMJB0188 said:
No you didn't get it. Even without LTE they slow down any connection when on a phone call to save bandwidth. You can be getting 6 mbps down and then make a phone call and barely hit one and the upload is like 0.00mbps.
Test it out. Immsuremit will be like that once LTE is voice enabled.
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So are you agreeing or disagreeing with my statement? Sounds like you are disagreeing, if so how is what you just posted different from mine?
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nunyabiziz said:
So are you agreeing or disagreeing with my statement? Sounds like you are disagreeing, if so how is what you just posted different from mine?
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I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I was stating something entirely different from the OP.
Its not widely known that AT&T throttles all data speeds during calls and I was being sarcastic by adding that once you can do LTE over voice, they'll throttle that too during calls only.
Run a speedtest next time your on the phone and you'll see. Doesn't matter what data plan you have, they throttle all data speeds during calls.

MattMJB0188 said:
I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I was stating something entirely different from the OP.
Its not widely known that AT&T throttles all data speeds during calls and I was being sarcastic by adding that once you can do LTE over voice, they'll throttle that too during calls only.
Run a speedtest next time your on the phone and you'll see. Doesn't matter what data plan you have, they throttle all data speeds during calls.
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Agreed, I told At&t that i wanted to cancel my service because Im paying for hotspot and its shif during calls. I was never told this before signing up for service. Im upset because hspa+ is enough for my needs and will work during calls but they had to go and throttle the service!
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redpoint73 said:
Yes, from what I understand, there is no standard yet for Voice over LTE, the various stakeholders are still working this out, and its still a long ways away.
So for the present time (and near future), LTE is data only (and no voice) on all carriers.
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The standard is pretty clear.
You have 3 options for voice under LTE (as of Rel8):
VoLTE - IMS VoIP using AMR
CS (circuit switched) Fallback - basically have the phone camp in the LTE network, and fallback to 3GPP/3GPP2 only in the case of voice calls
SVLTE (Simultaneous Voice and LTE) - the scenario I already described and launched with most NA carriers
The reason for the delay in VoLTE deployment is the difficulty (and cost) in implementation. VZW, AT&T, etc. would probably want to recoup investments in the 3G network already in place before they spend more for VoLTE. At some point in the future, recovering air spectrum from the 3G band is going to be a higher priority than re-using the deployed 3G network, and that's when we'll see more VoLTE movement.

Apparently the PQ supports simultaneous CDMA voice and Data

I download the Google offiine maps for the cities I go as on previous CDMA phones we can't get simultaneous voice and data. However, I'd noticed on a call the other day that I was getting data updates (as indicated by the arrows) as I was driving around.
I was locked into CDMA-only to save battery (we have some unannounced LTE coverage here in Silicon Valley, but in very limited areas) so I guess this means this chipset supports the simultaneous Voice/Data Revision of CDMA (then again, my CDMA is showing up as eHRPD in this market, so maybe it's a remnant of the ongoing LTE transition?).

I am in Rochester, NY....no NV here at all and I do get 3G while talking (EvDo-rev.A:8)...This phone supports SVDO which is what gives you V+D...please feel free to correct me but this is what I have understood.

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This phone supports SVDO
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Ah, thank you.
I really liked my PQ stock- it was lag-free and solid- but now that it's been rooted and I see little things like this, I'm so over not having an (easily-)replaceable battery nor a useful GSM radio. Excellent handset.

This is a nice little bonus feature on some CDMA handsets with Qualcomm SoCs and radios. Qualcomm licenses the CDMA 2000 standard so they maintain exclusivity on stuff like this and the Evo LTE's HD Voice.
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On all the LTE devices we carry including the lg viper , gs3, EVOLTE, and the g-nex we can use voice + data

BigRitz said:
On all the LTE devices we carry including the lg viper , gs3, EVOLTE, and the g-nex we can use voice + data
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Yea, that's assuming you're ON LTE.
This thread is discussing whether or not it works across EVDO/CDMA, which evidently it does... I'm curious as well, will test today. Sprint doesn't have any plans to put LTE in my city (or state) yet Puerto Rico is evidently getting the entire island covered this year.... Sigh.
Edit - I was NOT on wifi, and I was still able to transfer data over 3g while on a call. Very cool!!

arrrghhh said:
Yea, that's assuming you're ON LTE.
This thread is discussing whether or not it works across EVDO/CDMA, which evidently it does... I'm curious as well, will test today. Sprint doesn't have any plans to put LTE in my city (or state) yet Puerto Rico is evidently getting the entire island covered this year.... Sigh.
Edit - I was NOT on wifi, and I was still able to transfer data over 3g while on a call. Very cool!!
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Welcome to the club.
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arrrghhh said:
Yea, that's assuming you're ON LTE.
This thread is discussing whether or not it works across EVDO/CDMA, which evidently it does... I'm curious as well, will test today. Sprint doesn't have any plans to put LTE in my city (or state) yet Puerto Rico is evidently getting the entire island covered this year.... Sigh.
Edit - I was NOT on wifi, and I was still able to transfer data over 3g while on a call. Very cool!!
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Yo its cool I accept your apologie! Not once did I mention in my post anything about being on 4g! I specifically mentioned the phones we now carry that can over 3g!
Glad you figured it out lmao
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[Q] Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1

I was just about to place order on Amazon for the Samsung Note 10.1 32gb but then came across the unlocked version of the 10.1 16gb. My question is which one to get? I like that the unlocked version is 3g wifi but the American version isnt. Are these 2 tablets similar in specs aside from the 3G?
Any suggestions would be helpful. I want to buy it like tomorrow.
Thanks
Jacquie

Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.

Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1
blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks

boredy said:
Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.

blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.

boredy said:
Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.
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I'd say get the WiFi one if you are around WiFi a lot and don't need it on the run. If you are not around WiFi a lot get the 3g model and need it away from WiFi. And they are the same except 3g
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boredy said:
Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
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They're both the same specs wise. The difference between the N8000 and other wireless-capable tablets is that it's a full-fledged phone.
I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.

I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.[/QUOTE]
The N8000 only comes in 16bg right? Is there a 32gig out there? I mean 16 gig difference is alot? Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
I dont do much sync, I like that it has phone capability and I can use international data when I travel. I use it mostly for games, reading and movie watching. Currently I have Samsung Note phone and I love it! I also use my ipad 3.

Just a quick response to the second post. I've also seen on a few sites like Amazon and Walmart where they list some of the 32gb notes as being dual core and some as having only 1gb of ram. I'm sure it's a mistake of the website. Just wanted to share what I read.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.

TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.

boredy said:
Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
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Yes most if not all android tablets support flash in web browser, but you need to sideload it
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TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks

boredy said:
Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks
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Uh, really?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Uh, really?
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Uh really what? I am asking for help and not sarcasm. foh.

No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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KoRoZIV said:
No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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What's all these hostility in here?
I already have Ipad and just bought a 10.1 N8000 arriving tmw. You people have issues, I feel sorry for your life.
Merry Christmas!

It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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KoRoZIV said:
It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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I didnt see the post and you are too quick to give your assumptions by being sarcastic. What do you mean I deserve it? Who the heck are you to tell say that you bum. You coulda said something like someone already posted. but I guess you rather use sarcasm than being helpful. dude if I read it, why I would repost the question again? that's common sense for a normal person.
Get on with your woeful sarcasm life.

Relax "dude". Don't get mad, I'm the one with the issues...
Common sense will be not to quote the last post, to edit and correct your topic title, or to post in the correct section of the forum, but who am I to educate you.
My intention was not to offend you, I apologize if I did.
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[Q] Nexus 5 Simultaneous Voice/Data

Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??

The phone has to support SVDO in order to do voice+data on Sprint. Very, very few phones do (the EVO 4G LTE did, the HTC One didn't, for example). It requires a special antenna configuration as well IIRC.

cadbomb said:
Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.

justis s said:
Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Too bad... Found more on s4gru regarding this:
"That is what we have been told. Sprint tri band LTE devices will not support SVLTE. Whether that is due to band 26 LTE 800, band 41 TD-LTE 2600, or the combination of the two, we do not know. And the sample size is very small right now to project unconditionally into the future. But the standard expectation going forward should be no SVLTE on Sprint multi band LTE devices. Simultaneous voice and data will have to be accomplished by other means, such as third party VoIP apps and eventually VoLTE."
I are a sad sprint customer lol. Also why I went with a multi carrier phone off contract June 2014 can't come soon enough, cause I loves this phone!

This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )

cadbomb said:
I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I still have a family plan on sprint so if my data amount becomes an issue I'll go back but for now I'll sacrifice more data for fast and always available data, and at a rate of $45 I'll take it.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.

p0k3y said:
I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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Nope, that's by design. It has to do with available radios. If LTE isn't on a separate radio it can't be used simultaneously. On the upside, having less radios means better battery life overall.