Importing SMS messages - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
How would I import a few thousand SMS messages from a non WP7 device(/xml/csv/etc) into a Lumia 710?
For instance is there a way to inject them into a WP7 phone backup database and restore that to the phone?
Or using WP7 Root Tools (if it's supported on the 710?)
Or perhaps some insertion method through Rainbowmod?
Has anyone successfully brought SMS messages onto the device?
Thanks!

I think it's impossible at least in an easy way...
But if you brave and experienced enough you can take a look at SMS Backup and how it stores the messages. With a lot of luck and skill, you might be able to get it working. But to be honest, chances are small and the sms messages must be really really important to try this painful excercise...

It's possible, with sufficient unlock level (on the Lumias, that probably means a custom ROM). There are some tools, such as SMS Backup, which are able to read and write the SMS database on the phone, but there are limits to their compatibility.

GoodDayToDie said:
It's possible, with sufficient unlock level (on the Lumias, that probably means a custom ROM). There are some tools, such as SMS Backup, which are able to read and write the SMS database on the phone, but there are limits to their compatibility.
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Yes that's true but you'd still need to create those dbs and SMSBackup rendered my hd2 unusable (had to flash over again), so I'm not really convinced at all.

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Calling all ROM Chefs - how to handle texts and custom text ??

I love testing the new ROMS but my only gripe is everytime I flash my phone I lose my text messages and all the custom t9 entries in my dictionary. Is it possible to download these two items so they dont become lost between rom flashes ?
frottage said:
I love testing the new ROMS but my only gripe is everytime I flash my phone I lose my text messages and all the custom t9 entries in my dictionary. Is it possible to download these two items so they dont become lost between rom flashes ?
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Im amazed that these things aren't in some well known file or that no one seems to know (this is my second post on the subject) should I be asking this question in a more general forum perhaps ?
thats a good question btw,
i suggest you try the general if anyone doesnt come up with an answer for that
artilheiro.mz said:
thats a good question btw,
i suggest you try the general if anyone doesnt come up with an answer for that
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I asked in the general smartphone forum a couple of weeks ago and no one answered i feel sure that these things simply reside in a folder or file which can be copied between instances
I'm not sure for T9..but for emails and sms and a LOT of other things you can use SPB Backup (wich you have to pay for) whicj backups and restored also installed softwares and config and registry
or PPC Backup 2.8 which is free...whic restore phonebook sms and emails but not software data.
TheBo said:
I'm not sure for T9..but for emails and sms and a LOT of other things you can use SPB Backup (wich you have to pay for) whicj backups and restored also installed softwares and config and registry
or PPC Backup 2.8 which is free...whic restore phonebook sms and emails but not software data.
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to be honest I can cope with losing the texts . . . its the T9 which is more pertenant

Transfer data over to my new Mango phone?

Just got my Samsung Focus S, and I'm trying to get as much data as I can from my old Samsung Focus over to the new phone. What's the best way of doing this?
image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun
Bottom line, you can't get there from here.
Anything that has been copied to your PC through Zune (photos, videos, music) can be copied back to your new phone. Also, anything that is already stored in the cloud will still be available. But anything that is solely on your phone (app/game settings & saves, SMS messages, documents created by apps that don't support cloud storage, etc), will be permanently lost.
Microsoft does not provide (or even allow for) any mechanism to make a transferable backup of your device.
ohgood said:
image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun
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yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
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any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)
ScottSUmmers said:
any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)
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The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~
weijoon said:
The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~
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No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does
ScottSUmmers said:
No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does
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To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone
JustinTV773 said:
yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
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you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
weijoon said:
To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone
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Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.
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ohgood said:
you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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I totally agree. I love wp7 and will fight its corner against anything to anyone however if something is missing and needed its still missing and needed! This is one of them things just like vpn. I am 4 days from upgrading to the lumia 800 and i hate the fact i will lose all my game saves esp as some are working towards xbox live points. As i said you cant pretend something isnt needed just because its not there, this is a real shame. To me though it is like loveing my son but i do hate it when he screams at me cos i didnt give him my malteasers. Dont mean i love him any less but i would hope they sort it out. Or ay least give me some malteasers.
ScottSUmmers said:
Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.
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Glad that I can help.
ohgood said:
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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The most we can do at this point is VOTE UP that feature in the windows phone feature suggestion page and MAYBE microsoft will implement it. That feature has a ****load of votes, cannot remember link. The idea is quite good.
The reason the dude commented on your post was because your initial post did absolutely NOTHING to help the OP, it only satisfied your urge to bash the platform :-/
Very unproductive.
so no way to restore from old phone ..............hmmmmm
What if Microsoft made a feature like the ones found in Windows, the Easy Transfer wizard? They could whip up a feature in Windows Phone settings as "Easy Transfer" and let the user choose how they will transfer the files and settings (wallpaper, sms, system settings, as in ALL including synced emails) from the old phone to the new one, either wifi, or at least bluetooth. EVERYBODEH HAPPEH
I wrote a data backup app for HTC phones a while ago, but nothing for Samsung yet because Heathcliff74 hasn't released a tool for getting filesystem access (like his WP7 Root Tools app does) to other devs yet. No guarantee it'd be immediatley usable anyhow though, since the Focus S seems to use different high-privilege DLLs than the first-gen phones so all our current high-privilege apps (registry editing and provxml and all) don't work yet.
just found a way to get my apps back on my Focus S
Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again
newtype311 said:
Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again
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Attempting to repurchase an app will simply tell you you've purchased it before and install it for free. So the market doesn't tell you what you've bought before, but there's no risk of repurchasing either.

[Q] Proting SMS from Android to Windows Phone

Hey,
since I've seen that it became possible to backup up and restore SMS on Windows Phone (with backing up the store.vol), i was thinking if it could become possible to port SMS from Android to Windows Phone. Anyone an idea how to do that??
Matts12345 said:
Hey,
since I've seen that it became possible to backup up and restore SMS on Windows Phone (with backing up the store.vol), i was thinking if it could become possible to port SMS from Android to Windows Phone. Anyone an idea how to do that??
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Currently this isn't possible. An interesting solution would be backing up the SMS messages to Gmail under a SMS label, then importing into Android under one of a couple of apps that do this already. The trick is getting a dev to write an app for WP7 that would complete the cycle.
I really do not have an idea of all this developing things, but my first thought was, that it "just" has be possible to backup the SMS of an Android device in the ".vol" format (or convert them into a ".vol" file), so can can just restore them on Windows Phones. Maybe its complete crap what I am talking about, but for me it sounds the easiest way .
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Matts12345 said:
I really do not have an idea of all this developing things, but my first thought was, that it "just" has be possible to backup the SMS of an Android device in the ".vol" format (or convert them into a ".vol" file), so can can just restore them on Windows Phones. Maybe its complete crap what I am talking about, but for me it sounds the easiest way .
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I was describing a method that is already in place on Android. There are a few apps that back up SMS, MMS, and call logs to those respective labels in your Gmail account. All that needs to happen is for a WP7 dev to create an app which can process those "e-mails" under those labels and sort them to their proper places. This is much easier than having to load a file, since WP7 doesn't support .vol files.

App for backing up linked contacts? (Outlook, Facebook, Twitter etc...)

Is there any app that would do this? Ive been flashing my HTC 7 Pro few times now and the most annoying this is linking the accounts that are not autolinked because they are not spelled excactly the same.
If there is no solution someone with skill should have a look at this. It would be so great to back up the linked accounts just before flashing and then restore. Would save a huge ammount of time.
It's stored in the various PIM databases on the phone. We know where these DBs are, and we have the APIs to read them (though it requires elevated access, so a custom ROM, HtcRoot, or WP7 Root Tools 0.9). So far, though, nobody has written an app to back up the contents of the database from one phone image and restore them to another. That'll be a non-trivial task, since of course none of this stuff is documented. It should be possible with some work, though.
GoodDayToDie said:
It's stored in the various PIM databases on the phone. We know where these DBs are, and we have the APIs to read them (though it requires elevated access, so a custom ROM, HtcRoot, or WP7 Root Tools 0.9). So far, though, nobody has written an app to back up the contents of the database from one phone image and restore them to another. That'll be a non-trivial task, since of course none of this stuff is documented. It should be possible with some work, though.
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Wasn't it rumoured that Microsoft's 'full back up' will include this feature somewhere around Apollo?
Would be great to have this so I really hope it comes...

Way to retrieve deleted messages from WHATSAPP???

Hi!
I have Windows Phone (HTC TROPHY) and I have whatsapp on it.
A)I deleted a whole message thread (yesterday) and I was wondering if there is any way to get it back? (Whatsapp still not uninstalled)
B)If whatsapp is deleted, can I also still retrieve deleted threads?
Thanks to you all!
If your phone is interop-unlocked / rooted (WP7 Root Tools or custom ROM), it may be possible. This depends on how Whatsapp actually deletes the thread. The odds are against you, though. Flash storage (especially if TRIM is supported) can be a bit trickier to "undelete" from than magnetic storage, and that assumes that the relevant tools even exist. I don't think they currently do for WP7. By the way, if you delete Whatsapp, the OS will remove its data folder entirely, including all contents, and you won't be able to retrieve them.
GoodDayToDie said:
If your phone is interop-unlocked / rooted (WP7 Root Tools or custom ROM), it may be possible. This depends on how Whatsapp actually deletes the thread. The odds are against you, though. Flash storage (especially if TRIM is supported) can be a bit trickier to "undelete" from than magnetic storage, and that assumes that the relevant tools even exist. I don't think they currently do for WP7. By the way, if you delete Whatsapp, the OS will remove its data folder entirely, including all contents, and you won't be able to retrieve them.
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Hi. Thanks for the reply.
No my phone isn't interop-unlocked nor rooted.
So there is no other option? My phone is just stock... :/
Pretty much. The only other option would be if you have a phone backup (such as is created when you install updates) from before the thread was deleted; you could restore the entire backup but that would reset everything on your phone to that point in time, not just your Whatsapp history.
Don't bother asking if it's possible to extract a file from a phone backup; it's not (currently). They're encrypted. People have tried to find the decryption key, but thus far unsuccessfully.

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