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Me AND my girlfriend have been looking to get this tablet for a few months now... She is just a girl that won't use it to the extent I would... As an example she has my old evo 4g while I have the 3d... so I was wondering if I should get this transformer now for her and white for the transformer 2 or if I should just get both now...
Any comments on either tablet?
Tia
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it all depends. correct me if im wrong but the transformer 2 doesnt have a guaranteed release date. it has an expected one. if you can wait it out for a few months or longer by all means. but honestly there will ALWAYS be a new device with better specs announced months , hell even days after getting a new device. you'll be waiting forever with the " i gotta have the latest and greatest" mentality. but hey its up to you. i say just get it now
Is getting the TF for you now and then hand it to her when the TF2 comes out and you buy it for yourself an acceptable solution?
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I'm pretty sure it will be easy to sell the TF if you want the TF2 once it comes out. Craigslist for $350 easy.
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I'm pretty sure it will be easy to sell the TF if you want the TF2 once it comes out. Craigslist for $350 easy.
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yeah but once the tf2 comes out wont that drop?
Get an ipad 2. At least you'll know the value of that thing will not fall so easily.
Well IMO, I would go for a transformer now (as I did). There is no guaranteed release date for the TF2 and I don't want to sound pessimistic, but it'll contain new hardware and new OS, so probably it will have issues and it will take some time to iron out the early and unforeseen bugs. Hopefully I am wrong and it will be good straight from the launch I'll get one and sell the "old" if it will be much better than the current.
The tegra 3 chip is due to be released at the end of this year. It will take some time for asus engineers to adapt the chip into their tablet design. It will also take some extra time to stamp out bugs.
So, how long are you willing to wait? My prediction is we will see the gen 2 TF next March or April.
You go ahead and wait if you want.
If you're buying now? No it's not worth buying! when it was first released with android 3.0 it was a great device, almost perfect, but with constant worthless updates that have only ruined it my advice would be don't bother.
The last straw for me was updating to 3.2 (in the end i decided to because of constant *&(%&** pop-ups telling me there was an update available, and i just got pissed off with them) which totally ****ed up my music player, art never loads correctly.
I emailed them about a cure and they suggested a factory reset, which i did, then spent 4 hours re-installing my music only to have it go back to the same problem 2 days later.
There advice now is to send it in for a replacement, just for a ****ing software update that they had reason wahtsover to release in the first place, accept to help those wingy baby winers who ask for constant updates in the sad belief that new equals better
Did you know you can buy a 32gb xoom for the same price as a 16gb transformer I did
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If you're buying now? No it's not worth buying! when it was first released with android 3.0 it was a great device, almost perfect, but with constant worthless updates that have only ruined it my advice would be don't bother.
The last straw for me was updating to 3.2 (in the end i decided to because of constant *&(%&** pop-ups telling me there was an update available, and i just got pissed off with them) which totally ****ed up my music player, art never loads correctly.
I emailed them about a cure and they suggested a factory reset, which i did, then spent 4 hours re-installing my music only to have it go back to the same problem 2 days later.
There advice now is to send it in for a replacement, just for a ****ing software update that they had reason wahtsover to release in the first place, accept to help those wingy baby winers who ask for constant updates in the sad belief that new equals better
Did you know you can buy a 32gb xoom for the same price as a 16gb transformer I did
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Let me understand: getting rid of bugs and improving the speed, adding features is bad... OK, fine. So you got rid of a fast updating device for the fastest one? Makes a lot of sense. Like, totally. Why not the Galaxy Tab 10? If Samsung does the same as with the original one you'll probably see up to 3-4 updates during the whole lifecycle.
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I'm getting mine next month.Mid October. Should I skip or get it?
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Get an ipad 2. At least you'll know the value of that thing will not fall so easily.
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You disappoint me...
So I talked it over with my girl and I think I got an idea...
If the TF2 is released late Q4 like all my googling has me to believe then I will get the TF1 in a few Weeks... Tweak it all out thanks to XDA and it's awesome developers and when the TF2 comes out I'll get that and my girl will put up $250ish + a "few favors" for the TF1... then BAM! Geeky couple all over again
Idea?
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Did some research,the Transformer 2 real? and it's coming next month? Is it confirmed?
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You disappoint me...
So I talked it over with my girl and I think I got an idea...
If the TF2 is released late Q4 like all my googling has me to believe then I will get the TF1 in a few Weeks... Tweak it all out thanks to XDA and it's awesome developers and when the TF2 comes out I'll get that and my girl will put up $250ish + a "few favors" for the TF1... then BAM! Geeky couple all over again
Idea?
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But it's true, whether you want to hear it or not.
I kept my eyes big and wide and was able to get the TF brand new at $255. Combined with my keyboard dock, that was about $380 I paid for my TF+dock setup brand new. I have not been able to find an ipad or ipad 2 anywhere near that price.
If you are worried that something newer and better is just right around the corner, why not get an ipad 2 so you can resell it for almost the value you paid for it?
Again, the tegra 3 will be released by nvidia at the end of this year. It will take asus at least 3 months to get these chips into their TF2. And it will take them another couple months to stamp out the bugs and smooth out the hardware-software compatibilities. My prediction is sometime in March or April, possibly May.
I first heard about asus building the transformer a whole year before it actually came out. There's a lesson for you.
So, since you are having doubts about getting the TF now, might as well get the ipad 2 and then next April you can try to get your hands on the TF 2 and resell your ipad 2 at almost its original value.
Either that or be like me and be happy with what we have right now. I have absolutely no intention to upgrade unless I see another deal like the one I had with my TF.
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Did some research,the Transformer 2 real? and it's coming next month? Is it confirmed?
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That same rumor said the transformer would come out in 2010. I remember anxiously waiting for it. Well, a whole year later, it finally hit the market.
Yikes!
So,is it too late to pick up the Transformer say in a couple of weeks? October? Are there any other quad-core tablets shipping in the coming months? Besides the Transformer 2?
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Yikes!
So,is it too late to pick up the Transformer say in a couple of weeks? October? Are there any other quad-core tablets shipping in the coming months? Besides the Transformer 2?
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Yeah im sure there will be but i REALLY like the whole Netbook/Tablet thing... ESPECIALLY if windows 8 is a goal for developers... All i really need a PC for right now is Minecraft and that should be fixed on the Transformer... I've gone the last year without a decent computer because i have had my EVOs... so a Transformer would be a good Mix for me... I thought about the Galaxy 10.1 but i didnt like the keyboard options it came with... So its the TF/TF2 for me!!!
I would say buy now. The longer you wait, the less likely u are going to find revision B60 or below...the revisions that can be rooted/rom'ed. I have already read a horror story about how some dude went to multiple stores and checked the entire stores stock looking for B60 or below and couldn't find one. The B70 revision has been out for a while now and it still hasn't been rooted yet. You may end up having to buy one on ebay or something if you want to root it.
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I would say buy now. The longer you wait, the less likely u are going to find revision B60 or below...the revisions that can be rooted/rom'ed. I have already read a horror story about how some dude went to multiple stores and checked the entire stores stock looking for B60 or below and couldn't find one. The B70 revision has been out for a while now and it still hasn't been rooted yet. You may end up having to buy one on ebay or something if you want to root it.
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Wow... Maybe i should research a but more on this... Thank you so much i didnt realize that was an issue i had to look out for...
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.. She is just a girl that won't use it to the extent I would...
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Huh??? - sheureka (who is just a girl)
sorry to offend... i know girls who are like you are few and far between... I wish my girl were as interested in Android and tech as i was...
So I was one of the unfortunate early upgraders who bought the TF201 only to realize they are replacing it with the TF700 (It's even the same price and the prime was!). I have a chance to upgrade via an exchange (I bought my prime at bestbuy and can do manufacturers warrenty exchange through them). I was wondering if there is anyone else out there who has done the same thing....does the TF700 have the same problems? any new ones I should know about?
I moved from a prime to this device and don't regret it. The problems that seem to continue here are the I/o lags, screen bleed, wifi/bt video sync, single weak sounding speaker. The wifi signal itself is better, GPS works, and recent firmware has made the system run better for many. I say go for it if you can. It would be an even exchange in price for a better tablet. You may get a device that doesn't have any problems.
Do you have a good comparison of io performance between the current updated TF700 and stock Prime, and i.e. Androwook Prime?
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I don't have comparisons but there are threads in the general section where people are running those tests. The scores aren't something that concern me much to warrant me running them on my tablet.
I was able to do a manufacturer exchange on my prime and got an infinity ordered. I figured that the specs were better and the price was the same so why not. I have the accidental damage plan and BB return policy is really awesome so even if there are problems I'm confident that it will get fixed or I will get my money back......Looks like I'm moving over to this forum now.
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I don't have comparisons but there are threads in the general section where people are running those tests. The scores aren't something that concern me much to warrant me running them on my tablet.
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Not interested in numbers either, just feedback...
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I was able to do a manufacturer exchange on my prime and got an infinity ordered. I figured that the specs were better and the price was the same so why not. I have the accidental damage plan and BB return policy is really awesome so even if there are problems I'm confident that it will get fixed or I will get my money back......Looks like I'm moving over to this forum now.
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I'm doing the same thing my infinity is ordered and I turned in my prime
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I upgraded from TF201 and I do not regret the decision at all. Overall it is not a significant upgrade and if you have a fully working Prime and you will have to pay extra to get Infinity, I will not advise it... UNLESS you really want high def screen. If high def screen is not a priority then you might even look at TF300 (i currently own that as well).
There is a thread already discussing this, have a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805867
Bestbuy TF201 owners can upgrade for free without AD!!!
If you are thinking about this at all look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796743 . Just turned my 6 month old TF201 in for a full store credit and purchased a new TF700.... Can't be any better than that... Credit to Blackinjun.
I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
Definitely worth the switch. I had to go to two Best Buys to make it happen (kinda my own fault), but I'm definitely happy that I did. Runs better, feels better. Go for it.
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I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
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Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Screen
WiFi
GPS
Speed
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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T33 vs T30
The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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There is currently a rom (Zeus v3.0) that greatly improves the TF700's performance. You don't have to suffer.
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totally agree with you. glad I went from my TF201 to my TF700T. Not looking back.
+1 for the comment about Screen,GPS, WiFi and Speed. I did mine and have been very happy. As for the stutter and lag, I don't do a lot of gaming on mine, but I have not seen any of those problems.
As for the need to use a custom ROM, with my TF201 I finally put AndroWook on it and said "Oh, this is how this is supposed to perform," I have been running the Stock ROM, rooted with the basic Performance Tweaks (frozen apps in TiBu and some build.prop edits) and do not always feel like I am still handicapped.
Fantastic feedback, thank you everyone
Keion said:
Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Uhh. The WiFi and GPS also work. Some people might find one or both of those useful. LOL.
I was one of the few who were actually happy with my Prime. The wifi worked fine and the GPS didn't bother me since I never used it. The only reason I sold it and got the Infinity was because I could not re-unlock my Prime after RMAing for a broken HDMI port. For me, the only thing better on the Infinity is the screen, and although it is a really nice feature it is not worth it for that alone in my opinion. Overall, my experience with the Infinity has been the same as with the Prime (minus the development, which I hope will pick up soon).
If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
Edit: I forgot to mention the 'speed' issue. In every day use the Infinity and Prime are equally as speedy as one another in my opinion. I would say that the Infinity's superior processing power is sucked up by keeping all of those extra pixels going...
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If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Got it lol. I would do the same if it cost me nothing . My infinity cost me about $150 after selling my prime on CL. Bought my infinity at Bestbuy - lesson learnt
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Made the switch today, came home and rooted+unlocked. Now im seeing all these issues and hoping my tablet is good! LOL
One change i noticed was the MicroSD card no longer protrudes from the device!!! Everyone who picked up my device immediately would push on my memory chip thinking it was a power button.
On the TF700 it is perfectly flush with the device, sweet!!
Bad news for me, i rooted specifically to run GameCIH to manipulate games. Now im rooted and see GameCIH is not even supported by this tablet. Fan-fvckin-tastic! LOL
otherwise very happy so far.
I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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My Prime was actually great! Ran like a champ. Only reason for the switch was the FHD. A lot more people then you think had a satisfying experience with the Prime.
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I just spoke with Amazon this morning and they've agreed (without any hassle) to refund the money I paid for my TFP. I bought it in December 2011 and received it in late January. I worked pretty well but lately I was having a lot of issues with dropped wi-fi connections.
Anyway, I've decided to pick up the TF700T and use my Prime keyboard with it. My question is: Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
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Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
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I dunno maybe... But the infinity's GPS is pretty good all by itself, picked up satellites pretty fast even indoors (first floor of a second story house with metal roof and 4 feet from the window.
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834310536
Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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shirtlessrabbit4 said:
Well I have one (in my signature), and there is no official root I know of. However, this device is very similar to Asus transformer infinity and also runs pics, which as an almost universal root tool somewhere (don't remember where to find it). I am hoping someone would be willing to test this on the a2109, as theres many things I wish for root with. As for roms, cwm will need to be made for this and, again, infinity pad may help. But in all honesty, this is so fast that I would be too concerned for roms. Theming would be nice though
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Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.
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Would love to post a link. Check the lenovo forums.
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A buy-it-now is on the auction site for $260, including shipping. Very slightly (obviously) used. I'm quite happy with mine.
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Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00
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Just bought one at Best Buy for 259.00 this thing is smooth and fast I'm impressed. The screen is its only down fall. Head on viewing is not that bad. Definitely worth the 259.00
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I totally agree the speed and smooth, I actually went in to get the ASUS TF300F, but when I held it was just too heavy. There are a few cons such as the camera and the lack of pretty much any accessories. I'd read on another forum that a guy got the Galaxy 8.9 case M-EDGE case for it, so I got the 14.99 one and it fits, though it is pretty tight, and doesn't close completely. It's close enough that I don't worry about anything scratching the screen. Also the way it folds does allow you to use the camera with ease and none of the buttons are covered. I've spent 4 hours searching for a case made specifically for the tablet and not even the MFG has one yet. They do have a picture of a smart cover, but it's nowhere on the site or anywhere else.
I think the people that make non OEM products have bought into the reviews slamming the tablet so much that they didn't decide to make anything for it, which is pretty sad. It's an awesome tablet for people on a budget and doesn't like the garden wall of the KF, lack of additional memory of both the KF and Nexus, and IMHO the specs are awesome. The salesperson did a bench mark test in store and was totally shocked at the rankings it ranked well above all the big name tablets, so at 259 I was definitely sold.
Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.
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Speaking of the screen, I've viewed it at every angle that I use and there was no problem. I've previously owned the Toshiba Thrive 10.1 and this baby blows it out the water with ease. I kept my KF because trade in went down to 35.00 from 75.00 within a week.
Maybe with people giving positive feedback, more retailers will carry products for it.
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I've been posting reviews to every site I can think of, except Amazon. They still haven't gotten their **** together regarding the A2109 specs. Probably a campaign of FUD to sell their own products. Newegg, though, has very few reviews so far...
For those of you not on the Lenovo forums yet, there is now a dev ROM for the A2109. Right now we're at the point of having root, cwm, and a ROM free of bloatware and deodexed -- ready for some theming. Not like I've done any of the work -- by "we" I mean thanks to mcl we now have it.
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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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$90 more? Ooooh... I'd ask for a refund and see how this turns out
Josh
Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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Spec wise the Nook tab can't touch the ASUS or Lenovo. The only place it would be beat the Lenovo is the screen. Right now the ASUS is running stock JB and still out performing the Lenovo, which I bought for the specs in spite of the screen.
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Let me know how you like it.
Josh
Lenovo A2109 Rooted and CWM Recovery
joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
Thanks
Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment.
Because I am a noob I cannont post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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joshag said:
I'm thinking about picking up one of these tablets.. any idea if they've been rooted? Any custom roms?
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Bought this tab probally about a month ago didn't see any rooting methods. I thought I would sit this one out for about a month and see what the devs have come up with. None of the work goes to me (I am just a noob) but I just thought I would share this link with you regarding this tablets develepment. Because I am a noob I can't post any links so you can view my profile to see the link
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There is considerable development on the ROM front on the Lenovo official forums. I can't link either because I'm a n00b too, but with just a simple google search using the model name bought it up.
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Well, I took the Lenovo A2109 back to Best Buy today and swapped it for the ASUS TF300T 16GB for a 90.00 difference. They have the same specs under the hood based on a few quick searches on the web. Honestly I hated to do it, because I rather liked the A2109, but the screen kept doing these weird flashes. At first I thought it was something I was doing, but I googled it and it's a known issue. I decided that with the screen already being the only bad thing about the tab and then the flashing I'd just go with something else. Luckily BB had the 16GB ASUS in stock, since it wasn't there the last few times I checked.
There seems to be more support and accessories for the ASUS tab as well. I've not had the chance to test it yet because apparently you have to let it charge a couple of hours before you can use it. (Thought I'd have to make another trip to BB)
I'll update on my blog when I get some play time with it. Just before I took the A2109 back I ran AnTuTu and Vellamo tests on it for S&G and it ranked pretty high, so I want to see if the ASUS tab does the same thing.
I can't post any urls here as a new member, but there is a link to my blog on my profile. Just case anyone is interested.
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Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!
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Just picked one of these up tonight -- primarily for the family (non-techie wife & 2nd grade daughter). We've used it for a little over an hour and I'm already noticing random screen flashes. So far they're not anywhere near annoying enough to think about taking it back, but I'm keeping an eye on it. So far very, very pleased!
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
Come on over to the Lenovo forums if you want to talk to a larger audience
Josh
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Excellent! I have noticed the screen glitches myself, and they don't seem to become more frequent or serious over time, so I think what you see is what you will get. I suppose you notice them more when you are concentrating on it. Ordinarily a defect like this would drive me crazy, but for the price I'll overlook it!
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That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?
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That's good to know (that it doesn't seem to get worse). Is there a forum area focused on this device?
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The only forum so far is at Lenovo:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-IdeaTab-Slate-Tablets/bd-p/Idea_Slate
There are multiple devices in this forum, not just the A2109. There's a reasonably active group of users over there tho.
Josh
I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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geekygirl74 said:
I just wanted to come back let you know that the ASUS TF300 is indeed awesome. Even though the two tablets share most of the same specs, the ASUS tab seems to just fly and I have to admit the screen alone was well worth the additional money.
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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Yeah? I'm jealous. Of course, at this point I'd be pre-ordering the Nexus 10 if I were willing to pay more than the $250 I shelled out for this guy. The one thing I would miss, tho, is the convenient size. I really like how easy it is to handle. The 10" on the Gtab were a little much for me. Rationalizations... But now I have an upgrade to look forward to -- after mcl & I get an overclocking kernel running
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I've been thinking about the Nexus 7 inch since the 16 GB model dropped to 199 to replace my KF. I still think 7 inches is the sweet spot for a portable tablet, and I'd also love to have the "true" Android experience with out MFG tweaks, but that will be after the New Year and who knows what will be available then. They seem to be introducing the next big thing every week now.:laugh:
I'll try to keep it brief:
1. I'm a little annoyed that ASUS makes you sign off your warranty to unlock, everyone is annoyed by this I'm sure but you deal with it or you don't. The flip side of this coin is that a product like this shouldn't have to be sent in for warranty work if you don't brick it. I've never had to send in any handsets I've owned because of original equipment malfunctions. You can't guarantee that you'll get a perfect device if you buy it but I would think as long as you take care of it, it'll be fine, right?
2. Speed of the tablet. If you wanted to play it safe and keep the bootloader locked until the warranty expired, I've read that the tablet is sluggish. If I buy the tablet on Amazon I can unlock it, load a custom ROM on it, and decide within 30 days whether or not I want the warranty back. Is it worth giving up the warranty for the extra speed or is the sluggishness of the tablet overexaggerated? Can the tablet run Chrome well with the stock ASUS rom?
What do you guys think? Thanks!
The biggest concern i had with this tablet is QA. I went through 5 tablets until i found one i was happy with and there are many others in the same boat. What you DONT hear is from the people who got one they were happy the first time, either because they dont exist or because they dont complain.
Asus has shown that they will update this thing regularly, we keep getting updates and even the original transformer is still getting updates. that shows that in a year from now i will likely have updates to whatever version of android is available. Other top end tablets (like samsung) as much as i hate to say it dont update as often or as quickly.
I'd say get yourself a tablet if its something you will use. Use the hell out of it for the return period and make sure everything is working. If its not, return it and get another one. And after your 14 days or 30 days or whatever your retailer is if you personally dont like how some aspects of the tablet can be slower than expected return it. For me, its not an issue. Everyone is different.
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I have a completely stock tablet and it is not sluggish at all - I find many of the issues mentioned here are exaggerated! I played around with a Note 10.1 in a store and found no difference in the speed but I did notice the quality of the screen was not as sharp as the Infinity. If you have a 15-30 day return policy why not order one and if it's not what you expect then return?
Hello,
I am stock and unrooted and I like my infinity now (and I love the dock). I was a little disappinted at first (I bought it in july) because I find it too slow for the price it was, however this is my first tablet and I don't know how are other tablet. But now for my everyday use it is fine. I was really tempted to unlock and flash cleanrom but I don't want to loose my warranty. If I had known about square trade waranty at the time of purchase I would have got one, but it is too late now. My advice is the same as the previous, if you really want an infinity, buy it when you can easily return it after x days and return it if you are not satisfied. If you like it and want to unlock and keep a warranty, if you live in the US you can buy a square trade warranty and they enjoy your unlocked tablet.
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Hey , it's a great tablet trust me ..it's light, fast , and you can do so much with it. Soon it will get even better because the nexus 10 is coming out with that ridiculous resolution so deva will start making apps that support high resolution tablets. This tablet is awesome you can buy 32gb one and not worry about space because it has expandable memory.
Dude I unlocked mine , flashes clean ROM and used pimp my ROM ...this thing runs smooth as butter .
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Running it stock. Do not find it to be sluggish at all.
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I'll try to keep it brief:
1. I'm a little annoyed that ASUS makes you sign off your warranty to unlock, everyone is annoyed by this I'm sure but you deal with it or you don't. The flip side of this coin is that a product like this shouldn't have to be sent in for warranty work if you don't brick it. I've never had to send in any handsets I've owned because of original equipment malfunctions. You can't guarantee that you'll get a perfect device if you buy it but I would think as long as you take care of it, it'll be fine, right?
2. Speed of the tablet. If you wanted to play it safe and keep the bootloader locked until the warranty expired, I've read that the tablet is sluggish. If I buy the tablet on Amazon I can unlock it, load a custom ROM on it, and decide within 30 days whether or not I want the warranty back. Is it worth giving up the warranty for the extra speed or is the sluggishness of the tablet overexaggerated? Can the tablet run Chrome well with the stock ASUS rom?
What do you guys think? Thanks!
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dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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What you DONT hear is from the people who got one they were happy the first time, either because they dont exist or because they dont complain.
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Oh we exist. We just have better things to do than post in every single bloody thread where people complain. I've got about 30 post saying mine's fine from the second i bought it, weeks before the release, without unlocking.
People only speak up when they have something tocomplain about. there were thousands of sales for this tablet. Tell me, did you see all of them post here with cmplaints?
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I'm running stock, just installed the new update today. It is running REALLY smooth and fast!
Chrome works great for me.
Bagbug said:
dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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Sorry your experience has been so negative. I've had and currently have a number of Android devices and I love the TF700 Infinity, especially unlocked, CleanROMmed, and Clemsyn Kerneled!
I got one of the Square Trade warranties and it was very affordable for two years with accidental damage coverage. I have peace of mind that if I every screw-up so badly that it's bricked, I'll have my coverage without worrying about ASUS. Oh, and by the way, my unit and dock have both been perfect from day one...beginning of August.
Bagbug said:
dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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My feelings exactly. This tablet is very very slow. I regret buying it and I'll get rid of it at the earliest convenience.
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My feelings exactly. This tablet is very very slow. I regret buying it and I'll get rid of it at the earliest convenience.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
It's your device and you can live your life as you please, but the OP has a point...that the complainers (justified or not) seem to be louder and more insistant than the fun-loving, happy go lucky crackflashers like me! I hate the fact that people who would really fall in love with this tab (especially with its keyboard dock, expandability, long battery life, etc...) may not even try it out.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
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Eggzactly!
My insignificant\meaningless thoughts are:
For folks wanting to dive into the Android tablet quagmire who might expect things to be pristine right of the box...stay away!
For gadget gurus, tweak monsters, modification masters, code writers, app developers, people who trust Asus or guys that want a device to learn on...go ahead!
For me my experience with this device has been everywhere from "Wowee cool" to "Awww...This piece of poopoo" and back to "Mmmm Yeah Baby I love you now"
Boils down to patience along with perseverance.
I'm a firm believer that Android is heaven for those who enjoy adjusting rather than using.
It's kind of like a hotrod shiny on the surface...always needing more under the hood.
I'm very satisfied with my tf700. Sluggish? Nope. Well, I'm on cm10 and development on this Rom by the cm10 has been very excellent.
I don't think there is enough of the satisfied folks who express their happiness. I'm one of them so I felt the need to break that. Excellent product asus.
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Thats OK said:
Eggzactly!
My insignificant\meaningless thoughts are:
For folks wanting to dive into the Android tablet quagmire who might expect things to be pristine right of the box...stay away!
For gadget gurus, tweak monsters, modification masters, code writers, app developers, people who trust Asus or guys that want a device to learn on...go ahead!
For me my experience with this device has been everywhere from "Wowee cool" to "Awww...This piece of poopoo" and back to "Mmmm Yeah Baby I love you now"
Boils down to patience along with perseverance.
I'm a firm believer that Android is heaven for those who enjoy adjusting rather than using.
It's kind of like a hotrod shiny on the surface...always needing more under the hood.
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This ^^. Tinkering is half the fun. No, almost all of it.
I'm stock also, but rooted. I've never had any issues with my TF700T. It runs great. No FC and fast.
ShadowLea said:
Oh we exist. We just have better things to do than post in every single bloody thread where people complain. I've got about 30 post saying mine's fine from the second i bought it, weeks before the release, without unlocking.
People only speak up when they have something tocomplain about. there were thousands of sales for this tablet. Tell me, did you see all of them post here with cmplaints?
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I, too, didn't have any problem with my first tablet. I absolutely LOVE it now after installing CleanROM & Data2SD. I even bought mine on Ebay and got it for a great price.
I've enjoyed my tablet very much. Never noticed any sluggishness. I've also been very happy with the update frequency from Asus. No complaints here
I recommend picking up SwiftKey tablet edition from the play store. Makes landscape typing really easy.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
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We are all interested in modding. The point is, no amount of modding makes a difference.
Try this. Get yourself a three year old iPad 1. Put it near your transformer with CleanRom or CM10 or whatever. Start an app on both devices and see which one has smoother animations. Then open a slightly big webpage. Scroll around and pinch to zoom in and out a few times and tell me which one is smoother.
This tablet is running on hardware that is not suited to the resolution that it's running and it has very very slow flash storage which makes almost all operations sluggish. No amount of software modding makes a difference with hardware flaws. They can improve benchmarks, but not the user experience.
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No amount of software modding makes a difference with hardware flaws. They can improve benchmarks, but not the user experience.
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I have a contrary opinion: software tweaks have failed to improve benchmarks significantly across the board, but they did improve my user experience significantly.