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This is the initial release of the N8+ ROM for Nextbook 8 Premium and other M810c clones like BQ Kepler and PMP5080B.
It's based on ICS 4.0.4, fully rooted, EXT4 partitions, has Market and other Google Apps, and a lot of other equally great things.
This is a very fast ROM, and with some modifications like the Real Tablet UI it will give you the right feeling of using a tablet device.
Features
ICS 4.0.4 (IMM76D)
EXT4 partitions (CACHE, DATA and SYSTEM)
Superuser + su (v3.2)
Busybox (v1.19.4 Full)
Zipaligned + Deodex'd
init.d script support
/data/app enabled
Dalvik cache size 64m
Density is set to 120, Real Tablet UI
Included boot.img to prevent malfunction of G-Sensor and rotation
USB modes: MTP, PTP, Mass Storage
Google Play store (v3.7.15)
YouTube HD (v4.0.23)
Maps & Street View (v6.9.2) - Working without GPS
Google Play Music (v4.3.606.400990)
Google Talk (v4.0.4-299849) with Video Chat
GMail (v4.0.5)
NTFS Mount 1.3 (uninstallable)
Cifs Manager (uninstallable)
OI File Manager 1.2 (uninstallable)
Adblock
N8+ logo as bootanimation
Launcher persistant in memory
Removed eFun crapware + all unnecessary apps
GPU acceleration enabled
Stagefright library enabled
Wi-Fi scan interval improved
Touchscreen response improved
Touch speed improved
CWM Recovery (v5.5.0.4) Touch EXT4 included
Instructions
Download the pack and extract it.
Copy ext4-format-script.zip and n8plus-r1.zip to the root of your SD card.
Turn off the tablet.
While your tablet is off, hold the VOL - button and plug in the USB cable.
Your system will now ask for drivers, which are located in LowLeve-RK29xx-Tools\Drivers, guide the wizard to that location..
Your tablet will be recognized as RK29 device, and now you run RK29update.exe and you should get a message saying that your tablet is detected.
Double check if you have Parameter, Misc, Kernel and Recovery boxes selected and if they are click on Format. When formatting is done, click Update.
Tablet will reboot and enter touch recovery.
Now go to “install zip from sdcard” -> “choose zip from sdcard” (or choose zip from internal sdcard if you copied the files to internal memory)
First install ext4-format-script.zip. This script will format your partitions as EXT4.
When formatting is done, install n8plus-r1.zip and after that reboot the device.
That's all folks! Enjoy N8+ ROM!
Changelog
Code:
= [B]Revision 1[/B] =
* Initial release
= [B]Revision 1 Build 2 (fixed)[/B] =
* Fixed kernel incompatibility with certain devices G-sensor
* Boot.img is not included in the ROM, now separate
* Framework-res.apk optimized to 3,89MB
* Removed the double Vending.apk occurance
Download
N8+ r1b2 @ Ge.tt
N8+ r1b2 @ Minus
MD5: AF62CA7CC5FCA09D219ADFD86DB13457
Size: ~164MB
Tips
If you want to restore the tablet's density to MDPI (stock), open build.prop and change the ro.sf.lcd_density to ro.sf.lcd_density=160
Comments are welcome! If you're Serbian you can feedback at my blog and the official ROM post N8+ ROM r1 @ Zemlja koda i meda
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR DEVICE, INSTALL AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Live long and prosper!
Reserved for future use.
Updated first post with new download links and a density tip. Enjoy.
Does this ROM have some Calendar provider? Most ROMs I have found for this tablet do not have "com.android.calendar" which causes an issue trying to sync calendars from Facebook, Google, or Exchange. Or is there any other way around it?
EDIT: This ROM appears to have everything I need, although I cannot get the WiFi to work properly, it connects and gets an IP address in my LAN but no Internet connectivity. Flashed a different ICS ROM on the tablet and it works just fine but doesn't have all the options I need like this one. Nextbook 8 P
EDIT2: Nevermind... Redid the installation procedure, then before the last reboot Cleared Cache/Factory Default and Cleared Dalvik Cache in CWM and things seem to be working now. Currently exploring, but like what I see so far!!!
This is by far the best, cleanest, and smoothest ROM for the Nextbook 8 Premium I have ever seen. It turns it into a whole new device!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Always my pleasure.
Thanks for all the feedback via PMs, but don't be shy to share the problems to the main thread.
You can also use this thread to make future requests, use it
Thanks!!! After playing with this ROM for a bit, I have had a few issues, none are real deal breakers though, here is a list of some of the things I have run across in my limited use over the last week or so.
1) Netflix doesn't work - It loads, I can log in, search, scroll around the titles, but I can't actually select anything, the app doesn't seem to recognize my touches for the movies, yet it does for text input and stuff. ** No fix/workaround
2) All third-party browsers are very slow and laggy, I have tried Dolphin for Pad, Maxthon Tablet, Chrome, and Opera, the embedded browser is kind of slow but always works, all the third party browsers seem to be slowed down even more with third party keyboard (Perfect Keyboard) with Opera and Chrome actually becoming unusable (misses keystrokes, screens won't update). ** Using embedded browser and stock keyboard most of the time
3) Gmail won't update, it starts the process but then pops up a window that says "Error - Package file was not signed correctly. Uninstall the previous copy of the app and try again." ** Just discovered this this morning, no fix/workaround as yet, but the embedded app works fine and Play doesn't prompt me to update all the time, so it's not really a necessity to fix it.
4) If you disconnect the power cord well the tablet is sleeping, it will still think it is charging when you wake it up, and continue to stay that way until you plug in the power cord and remove it well it's not sleeping. ** No fix, just annoying sometimes
Just the few things I have seen over the last week or so of using this off and on at work... Current configuration with this ROM includes: Fancy Widgets, Flash Player, Adobe Reader, Dolphin for Pad ßeta, ES File and Task Managers, Facebook, Kingston Office, Perfect Keyboard, Quick Boot, Simple Notepad, WiFi Analyzer, Weatherbug, and some games and other misc stuff.
On the good side, battery life is improved significantly on this ROM over stock, so is responsiveness and smoothness in the OS interface itself (settings, launcher, app drawer) and in most apps, and all the "regular" features of Android that are missing from the stock ROM, like the calendar, are here.
All in all I would recommend this ROM to most users, it won't make a $140 tablet a $500 iPad (nothing will), but it does makes it much more usable than the way it came out of the box... now if I could just figure out the Netflix issue.
EDIT: I have discovered that this tablet is essentially the Prestigio MultiPad PMP5080B Tablet, minus the HDMI output, and they have tons of firmware versions available on there website, exploring their current one now... http://www.prestigio.com/products/personal-computers/Tablet_PC/MultiPad_PMP5080B
Well, after 5 ROMs, including 3 ICS ROMs and 2 Gingerbread ROMs, I cannot get the latest version of Netflix to work on any of them except the stock GB 2.3.1 ROM that came with the tablet and even that is PAINFUL (extremely laggy, choppy video, won't do HQ)... Giving up on that and on to something else... Maybe NetFlix will work in a future release
acejavelin said:
Thanks!!! After playing with this ROM for a bit, I have had a few issues, none are real deal breakers though, here is a list of some of the things I have run across in my limited use over the last week or so.
1) Netflix doesn't work - It loads, I can log in, search, scroll around the titles, but I can't actually select anything, the app doesn't seem to recognize my touches for the movies, yet it does for text input and stuff. ** No fix/workaround
2) All third-party browsers are very slow and laggy, I have tried Dolphin for Pad, Maxthon Tablet, Chrome, and Opera, the embedded browser is kind of slow but always works, all the third party browsers seem to be slowed down even more with third party keyboard (Perfect Keyboard) with Opera and Chrome actually becoming unusable (misses keystrokes, screens won't update). ** Using embedded browser and stock keyboard most of the time
3) Gmail won't update, it starts the process but then pops up a window that says "Error - Package file was not signed correctly. Uninstall the previous copy of the app and try again." ** Just discovered this this morning, no fix/workaround as yet, but the embedded app works fine and Play doesn't prompt me to update all the time, so it's not really a necessity to fix it.
4) If you disconnect the power cord well the tablet is sleeping, it will still think it is charging when you wake it up, and continue to stay that way until you plug in the power cord and remove it well it's not sleeping. ** No fix, just annoying sometimes
Just the few things I have seen over the last week or so of using this off and on at work... Current configuration with this ROM includes: Fancy Widgets, Flash Player, Adobe Reader, Dolphin for Pad ßeta, ES File and Task Managers, Facebook, Kingston Office, Perfect Keyboard, Quick Boot, Simple Notepad, WiFi Analyzer, Weatherbug, and some games and other misc stuff.
On the good side, battery life is improved significantly on this ROM over stock, so is responsiveness and smoothness in the OS interface itself (settings, launcher, app drawer) and in most apps, and all the "regular" features of Android that are missing from the stock ROM, like the calendar, are here.
All in all I would recommend this ROM to most users, it won't make a $140 tablet a $500 iPad (nothing will), but it does makes it much more usable than the way it came out of the box... now if I could just figure out the Netflix issue.
EDIT: I have discovered that this tablet is essentially the Prestigio MultiPad PMP5080B Tablet, minus the HDMI output, and they have tons of firmware versions available on there website, exploring their current one now... http://www.prestigio.com/products/personal-computers/Tablet_PC/MultiPad_PMP5080B
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Now this is what I call a feedback I know about most of these so I'll elaborate as much as I can.
1) Netflix - eFun knows about this and Nextbook 7 and Nextbook 8SE have gotten an update for Netflix, but nothing for Nextbook 8 Premium so far.
2) Browsers have some kind of an issue with RK2918 tablets (especially Chrome and Opera Mobile), kills me but I have no idea why that happens. One browser that will work and I use is Dolphin Engine Beta, and works really well, knowing that this tablet really has 274MB of RAM. Opera Mobile has some weird rendering bug, but I guess that the EGL driver is making them freeze.
3) Signature issue - This happens a lot lately and it's a Market related issue, but there is a fix. Go to Settings -> Applications -> Play Store and Clear all data, than reboot to recovery and Wipe Dalvik cache. You won't be seeing any of those anytime soon.
4) This is a kernel related issue, I've reviewed the code and there is no obvious reason for it to do that but it does, and yea, it's annoying as hell, but I can't pinpoint the issue.
What I am really interested in is where the hell is our 238MBs of RAM, and who's taken it I still can't figure out if they're misrepresenting it as 512MB tablet or the RAM is locked in kernels.
marxo said:
Now this is what I call a feedback I know about most of these so I'll elaborate as much as I can.
1) Netflix - eFun knows about this and Nextbook 7 and Nextbook 8SE have gotten an update for Netflix, but nothing for Nextbook 8 Premium so far.
2) Browsers have some kind of an issue with RK2918 tablets (especially Chrome and Opera Mobile), kills me but I have no idea why that happens. One browser that will work and I use is Dolphin Engine Beta, and works really well, knowing that this tablet really has 274MB of RAM. Opera Mobile has some weird rendering bug, but I guess that the EGL driver is making them freeze.
3) Signature issue - This happens a lot lately and it's a Market related issue, but there is a fix. Go to Settings -> Applications -> Play Store and Clear all data, than reboot to recovery and Wipe Dalvik cache. You won't be seeing any of those anytime soon.
4) This is a kernel related issue, I've reviewed the code and there is no obvious reason for it to do that but it does, and yea, it's annoying as hell, but I can't pinpoint the issue.
What I am really interested in is where the hell is our 238MBs of RAM, and who's taken it I still can't figure out if they're misrepresenting it as 512MB tablet or the RAM is locked in kernels.
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Yeah, could never understand the memory... always seemed really low for a "512MB" tablet. Have gone back to your ROM now, going to try those things and will let you know how it goes.
On another note, I was playing with the Prestigio PMP5080B ICS ROM, it is very snappy and works great, but couldn't seem to root it. I flashed CWM Recovery with RKAndroidTools (just flashed Recovery) but was never able to get into recovery (never tried adb reboot recovery though) to flash Superuser ZIP. I actually really liked that ROM but without being able to root it, it was not what I wanted.
Had a heck of a time getting Gmail to update... Tried what you said but still kept getting same signature issue, so I uninstalled GMail from firmware with TiBu, cleared all data on Play Store app, then rebooted into recovery, cleared cache and dalvik and then was finally able to install the gmail app via Play Store.
BTW, what are valid values for ro.sf.lcd_density? I tried 120 and it's right on the verge of being to small, but when I change it to 160 it's too big, and 140 makes the launcher crash.
EDIT: An interesting thing I have seen today as well, if the tablet is sleeping, and plugged in, when it gets to 100% charged, it reboots, then comes up to the lock screen and says 99%... The first time it happened I thought it was just a fluke and I blew it off, but it just happened again after sitting here next to me on the table for almost an hour without being touched.
Stupid question... how to I set the Region/Localization assigned to this tablet? I am trying to install Crackle (and a few other apps) and they say they are not available in my country, but they are.
Edit: Nevermind, Apparently it is based on the Provider Code, and I found this: Market Unlocker which allowed to me change it to Verizon (US), which is what carrier I use and where I am so, so should be good.
How would I go about changing this permanently in the ROM, not sure where it is stored?
acejavelin said:
Yeah, could never understand the memory... always seemed really low for a "512MB" tablet. Have gone back to your ROM now, going to try those things and will let you know how it goes.
On another note, I was playing with the Prestigio PMP5080B ICS ROM, it is very snappy and works great, but couldn't seem to root it. I flashed CWM Recovery with RKAndroidTools (just flashed Recovery) but was never able to get into recovery (never tried adb reboot recovery though) to flash Superuser ZIP. I actually really liked that ROM but without being able to root it, it was not what I wanted.
Had a heck of a time getting Gmail to update... Tried what you said but still kept getting same signature issue, so I uninstalled GMail from firmware with TiBu, cleared all data on Play Store app, then rebooted into recovery, cleared cache and dalvik and then was finally able to install the gmail app via Play Store.
BTW, what are valid values for ro.sf.lcd_density? I tried 120 and it's right on the verge of being to small, but when I change it to 160 it's too big, and 140 makes the launcher crash.
EDIT: An interesting thing I have seen today as well, if the tablet is sleeping, and plugged in, when it gets to 100% charged, it reboots, then comes up to the lock screen and says 99%... The first time it happened I thought it was just a fluke and I blew it off, but it just happened again after sitting here next to me on the table for almost an hour without being touched.
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Updating that GMail sure sounds like PITA. All that Market issues arereally boring, and I'll try and update most apks for the next revision, and try to avoid that signature thing.
Default ro.sf.lcd_density is 160 that's MDPI, that's the default for the tablet. I used 120 because it gives some space to the user to work, but it's LDPI and some people don't like it. So it's either 120 or 160.
I've seen my tablet do that once, and logcat gave me nothing. I'll probably have to hook it up and debug it a bit more.
acejavelin said:
Stupid question... how to I set the Region/Localization assigned to this tablet? I am trying to install Crackle (and a few other apps) and they say they are not available in my country, but they are.
Edit: Nevermind, Apparently it is based on the Provider Code, and I found this: Market Unlocker which allowed to me change it to Verizon (US), which is what carrier I use and where I am so, so should be good.
How would I go about changing this permanently in the ROM, not sure where it is stored?
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I have a market-fix.sh that can do one value, and if I set to en_US it will be set to United States for everyone. I'm working out a way to prompt user to enter it's own on install, and if not possible I'll include something that can change the value.
Screen rotation issue
Great work! the only issue for me is the screen auto rotation does not work (Only sound sensor is supported by this rom). :good:
I don't have Windows. Is there any other way to flash the touch recovery (maybe with adb)?
There is RK2918 flash tools for linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286305
This rom looks great, I love this community and what you guys do!
My girlfriend got one of these for XMAS and I told her I would look into modding it, it just seemed to bogged down and slow to be fully enjoyed, sounds like this ROM is going to do the trick though!
EDIT:
Ok so I just followed the directions to the letter, and this isn't my first time rooting or installing a rom. For some reason all it does now is nothing.. at first when I rebooted after flashing the ROM in recovery it would reboot right back into recovery. Now after a second wipe and an install of the ROM (Didn't do EXT4 again) it is just a black screen, can't enter recovery, PC doesn't pick it up when connected via USB. Is it on and maybe I need to drain the battery? I would really hate to of just ruined her tablet. I don't understand what could of went wrong...
jSterling said:
This rom looks great, I love this community and what you guys do!
My girlfriend got one of these for XMAS and I told her I would look into modding it, it just seemed to bogged down and slow to be fully enjoyed, sounds like this ROM is going to do the trick though!
EDIT:
Ok so I just followed the directions to the letter, and this isn't my first time rooting or installing a rom. For some reason all it does now is nothing.. at first when I rebooted after flashing the ROM in recovery it would reboot right back into recovery. Now after a second wipe and an install of the ROM (Didn't do EXT4 again) it is just a black screen, can't enter recovery, PC doesn't pick it up when connected via USB. Is it on and maybe I need to drain the battery? I would really hate to of just ruined her tablet. I don't understand what could of went wrong...
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First thing you need to do is make sure that her Nextbook isn't one of those "Black Friday Edition" thingies which is based on M3 Chip. This one is for RK2918-based ones only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34736965
It's a totally different device with the same name. Just for the record, I think that E-Fun has made the most incredibly stupid thing releasing a different device under the same name. Nice work dumbasses.
EDIT: If you don't know how, or can't check the software now, check the box out and see if it says M803HC or M805MC anywhere. Only the first one is supported, the other one is M3-based.
It does have the RK Cortex Chipset you were talking about, so not a black friday edition. Believe her mom bought it from a TV shopping network. Anyway, I got it to boot back up by letting the battery drain, so now I have the CWM recovery back but I still do full complete wipes, and install the ROM and it still won't work. No idea what's going on here. All it does is boot right back into CWM.
Does CWM give any kind of error? Try running format script first and then doing a full wipe, sometimes it does the trick.
Just be sure I did a full wipe of cache, dalvik, system, data, emmc. I flashed the ext4 and formatted and then did another full wipe. I then flashed the ROM, taking about 1-2 mins and then in CWM did a reboot. Screen went to black, AC Charger Light is on (it is plugged in) but screen is still just black. Been this way for about 3-4 mins now.
Related
Hello,
I've had my GTab for quite awhile now and have tried quite a few custom ROMs. Some I liked a lot and some I didn't. Finally had to stick with TNT 3588 because on all the custom ROMs debugging was automatically enabled and every time I would connect via USB it would crash my laptop. It differs for everyone.
So I broke open a couple of ROMs, supplements and Gapps (google apps) I liked and cherry picked until I put together a stable enhancement package of the following:
Google Apps plus Google Market
Angry Birds
GMail
Google Services Framework
Live Wallpaper
Live Wallpaper picker
Maps
Street
Vending
Visualization Wallpaper
Voice Search
Youtube
System Framework
Google Android Maps
nvidia Display
nvidia graphics
The nvidia display/drivers were critical to getting rid of some of the bad viewing angles. My screen is incredible. This package allows you to still receive VS updates however you can access google market and connect usb as normal. Does not take away the original TNT stock - contacts, gallery, calendar, weather, etc. You can load AW launcher or Launcher Pro and all other apps with some improvements including Flash 10.2. Youtube runs best in browser for me. However, the newer "stand-alone" version will work too.
This is basically a 3588 "Enhancement Pack"
Run your updater to update to 3588 if you are not already running it and then...
Install clockwork mod 8 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008245&highlight=clockwork+mod)
Hold in power button while pressing up volume key to you see loading recovery kernel, let go, rock volume down, up, until you get into clockwork mod.
It should say at the top of the screen ClockworkMod Recovery 0.8.
From clockwork mod 8, use volume up key to go down the list until you see
-mounts and storage
then hit your home key (the little house under the search symbol on the upper right-hand side of GTab)
-mount /system hit home key again to unmount
Then move down once more and press volume up key to go to
-mount /data, again hit home key to unmount
Next, go down to the last icon on GTab, the arrow key, to return to first menu to
Find (4th down from reboot option)
-install zip from sdcard, hit home key, hit volume up once more to
-choose zip from sdcard, hit home key again
Find the folder from the file listing you put the file in. (It helps if you create a folder beforehand for all your ROMs or xda files in one folder so you can easily pan down the list having all files in one place).
Go to in your folder, hit the home key, and let the file run.
TNT 3588 Gapps nVidia Drivers download here
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?my4ohg6afnl12p3
Afterwards return to the first menu in clockwork mod by pushing the arrow key, the last key on the upper right-hand side of GTab, until you see -reboot system now. Use volume up key, go down two lines to
-wipe data/factory reset hit home key again, let run until it goes back to the clockwork mod
Then
-reboot system now menu and hit home key to reboot.
Special Note: You will have to run the market fix. First sign into market using your info, completely finish that process. You should see some apps. Go to settings, applications, system applications, Google Services Framework-force stop, clear data. Market-force stop, clear data, exit and reboot. Sometimes you have to reboot twice, but, it worked on the first try for me.
Re-open and use. This isn't the newer version, but, it does give you access to all the apps, only difference is GUI. The other version was problematic in this enhancement pack.
This Enhancement Pack is for those who may want to ease into modifying their GTab or who may want to keep the Viewsonic Stock OS until VS issues another update. Plus, have access to Android Market and Nvidia display enhancement & drivers.
As with all ROMs, supplements, enhancements, firmware or modifications, use at your own risk, should not cause any problems unless you did something terribly wrong.
edirector said:
The nvidia display/drivers were critical to getting rid of some of the bad viewing angles. My screen is incredible.
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Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
lostpilot28 said:
Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
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Good question but I stated display & nvidia drivers. The drivers are for the tegra 2 . And those improved the overall system.
Has anyone tried this?
Also, Where did you get the drivers from? Would you be so kind and provide us with a video showing off how the screen was improved?
I think this is going to be exactly what I'm looking for. Going to to try it out as soon as my tab gets in.
edirector said:
Good question but I stated display & nvidia drivers. The drivers are for the tetra 2 . And those improved the overall system.
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Well, technically, your post stated that the drivers improved the viewing angles. I'm just wondering how they do that since the viewing angle problem isn't bad because of the software...it's the screen itself.
lostpilot28 said:
Well, technically, your post stated that the drivers improved the viewing angles. I'm just wondering how they do that since the viewing angle problem isn't bad because of the software...it's the screen itself.
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First of all, the drivers came from the devs on this site. I've tried quite a few supplements, ROMs and enhancement packs TNT 2.4, 3.14, 4.23, 4.24, 4.25 and Gapps xtra. The last two 4.24 and 4.25 was extremely fluid. Inside the 4.24 was a system/framework folder and inside the framework folder were these two files: com.nvidia.display & com.nvidia.graphics.
I cannot use the other ROMs because of the auto debugging permanently left on which crashes my laptop which I've only had a about 2-3 months and it is painful to see it go down. So I noticed when I ran 4.24 marked overall improvement with G Tab. While everyone else is saying they see issues with the screen I'm saying I don't. I have to really have it at an odd angle I wouldn't normally view anything at to see distortion. My screen is popping, mostly eye candy. I have a 3D LED laptop display and use both simultaneous and notice very little difference between the two displays. Both have nvidia chips.
Some on this website (see the why is everyone complaining about viewing angle thread) say that it is possible those who got a later model of GTAB (2011 oppose to 2010) might have gotten one with a improved screen. I can not answer that you will have to ask Viewsonic.
Try the enhancement and tell me what you think. That's all I can say too you, and you can ask the devs why they put those two files in that ROM and what purpose they think they serve. Most times manufacturers (since they say nvidia) issue drivers, firmware and such for purpose of improvement.
Is it possible to install this update by using standard recovery?
I like the classic stock 3588 interface. I would like to get market and maps.
Could you let me know if these updates can be installed by using standard recovery.
Edirector,
I vaguely remember roebeet et al were talking about increasing framerate or something like that, and I'm pretty sure that tweak made it into some of the newer ROMs, so maybe that's why you're seeing improvement?
Jim
lostpilot28 said:
Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
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Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
edirector said:
Some on this website (see the why is everyone complaining about viewing angle thread) say that it is possible those who got a later model of GTAB (2011 oppose to 2010) might have gotten one with a improved screen. I can not answer that you will have to ask Viewsonic.
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def gonna think about this. Kind of a newbie and still very excited for my GTab from Woot. But this doesnt seem to bad. I hope there is some sort of screen update for the 2011 Gtabs. that would be great!
P00r said:
Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
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Take it up with the developers of this site, no just joking. It works I'm using it. Also, I ran the package by Roebeet before I posted it. He stated it was an enhancement pack. All it is allowing you to do is keep the VS stock, plus, add market and the nvidia drivers, nothing more, or, nothing less. You can still get your updates from VS. Perhaps, it is not for you. That is Ok but there are a lot of upcoming new GTab owners who want to mod, but maybe not totally stray from the stock OS or ease into it.
quake101 said:
Has anyone tried this?
Also, Where did you get the drivers from? Would you be so kind and provide us with a video showing off how the screen was improved?
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I'm using it now and I can install apps from google market from the app or browser. I've bought a few, both ways. All the build props and such were there, they are from the site devs. I ran the package by Roebeet before posting.
Just trying to make it easy on the new GTab owners not more difficult. I went through serious trial and error so I know how that feels, also, I have basic computer skills A+ Certification. Mainly with computers the hardware and software need to work in concert. If you listen to this enhancement package you can hear the music playing sweetly. lol
P00r said:
Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
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I haven't played around wth this pack yet, but you shouldn't require a build.prop change (I think). I make the following changes in the build.prop, Market related:
1- the mahimahi change (to add more apps)
2- the T-Mobile change (again, to add more apps)
3- The setupwizard Disable.
That last one is the only one I might have to test - if you do a data wipe, the SetupWizard will likely pop up. I'm not sure if it will actually work or get stuck at the first screen - honestly, I disabled it so long ago that I don't recall anymore. Too many tablets and mods.
OK, my GTAB is a dev unit so it's always getting flashed. So I looked it over.... kind of strange being a user for once!
It's exactly as stated - an "Enhancement Pack" for build 3588. It has the additional apps and drivers mentioned. I'm not sure where the Nvidia drivers originated, but they are not from build 3991.
Market works. Solid instructions there.
No standard recovery, as the updater-script is written in such a way that only clockworkmod can run it (I tried standard recovery first). My only concern there is my usual nervousness with having clockworkmod for future patching.
Nenamark scores are in the 28fps range
Quandrant is ~1800
(those match up with 3588 stock norms, tmk)
Angry Birds causes an FC (that's normal when you try to drop it in /system)
Not rooted (edirector never claimed that it was, but just be aware of that)
Overall, a good first try imo and thanks for doing this! Suggestions: Angry Birds should be removed since it can't live in /system, and although the Nivdia drivers were altered I don't personally see a difference anywhere. I know my screen angles like the back of my hand by now and they look the same to me, post-installation.
Thanks again! If anyone wants just the Market and Gmail / Maps / YouTube, this is a good firmware to use. And the lack of a build.prop is a good thing - it could conceivably run on older ROMs like 3389 (not tested of course, so stress the "could" part). Future ROMs we obviously don't know about, yet.
roebeet said:
EDIT: Data wipe was OK, it actually goes into the GTablet setup screen and not the Google setup screen.
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So did you walk through the rest of the package and check it out? I really didn't alter from what you were offering just included the nvidia drivers with gapp. Some of those xtra programs in the gapp were causing conflicts so I took it down to bare bones.
I liked what you did with TNT 4.25 that was really smooth until I connected the usb cable from my laptop to GTab and crashed it. I gave away my old equipment. Might have to pick up a test dummy on the cheap off ebay for such purposes. I like using the different ROMs. But since I am planning on buying another tab with a different operating system no point in buying another GTab. Thanks, for checking it out!
edirector said:
So did you walk through the rest of the package and check it out? I really didn't alter from what you were offering just included the nvidia drivers with gapp. Some of those xtra programs in the gapp were causing conflicts so I took it down to bare bones.
I liked what you did with TNT 4.25 that was really smooth until I connected the usb cable from my laptop to GTab and crashed it. I gave away my old equipment. Might have to pick up a test dummy on the cheap off ebay for such purposes. I like using the different ROMs. But since I am planning on buying another tab with a different operating system no point in buying another GTab. Thanks, for checking it out!
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I updated my dup post, above yours.
I saw some of the early responses so I wanted to put in my two cents -- I hope I wasn't going over the line, I tried to review it as a any other user. It's surprisingly hard to do that, which is quite bizarre in itself.
roebeet said:
OK, my GTAB is a dev unit so it's always getting flashed. So I looked it over.... kind of strange being a user for once!
It's exactly as stated - an "Enhancement Pack" for build 3588. It has the additional apps and drivers mentioned. I'm not sure where the Nvidia drivers originated, but they are not from build 3991.
Market works. Solid instructions there.
No standard recovery, as the updater-script is written in such a way that only clockworkmod can run it (I tried standard recovery first). My only concern there is my usual nervousness with having clockworkmod for future patching.
Nenamark scores are in the 28fps range
Quandrant is ~1800
(those match up with 3588 stock norms, tmk)
Angry Birds causes an FC (that's normal when you try to drop it in /system)
Not rooted (edirector never claimed that it was, but just be aware of that)
Overall, a good first try imo and thanks for doing this! Suggestions: Angry Birds should be removed since it can't live in /system, and although the Nivdia drivers were altered I don't personally see a difference anywhere. I know my screen angles like the back of my hand by now and they look the same to me, post-installation.
Thanks again! If anyone wants just the Market and Gmail / Maps / YouTube, this is a good firmware to use. And the lack of a build.prop is a good thing - it could conceivably run on older ROMs like 3389 (not tested of course, so stress the "could" part). Future ROMs we obviously don't know about, yet.
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When you hit the google market through the app it will automatically recognize it and ask you to update it. You are correct about angry birds. So you don't have to remove it, if you don't want to, just go to the market app and let it do the work.
Thanks, for the encouragement. It's your work essentially, I just mixed a straight cocktail no tonic mix. Some of us are learning. Also, I didn't think to put cwm in there, because I usually side-load it on after flashing. A very good point and noted.
Edit/ answered my own question, nice write up!
How do I include the Google Calender with this pack? Already have the pack installed, then realized the Calender was missing. Thanks.
There has been a little conversation about this new device in the Yinlips G18 thread, but I thought it deserved it's own space.
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Specs:
CPU: 800MHz ARM Cortex A9 (single-core) + Mali 400 GPU
RAM: 512MB DDR2
Storage: 8GB internal (6.25GB available to the user) + microSD slot
Display: 7" 800x480 touch screen
OS: Google Android 2.2 (with some launcher modifications)
Connectivity: WiFi 802.11b/g/n + miniUSB with OTG capability (adapter included)
Included emulators: Arcade games, Nintendo 64 games, Sony PS1 games, Nintendo GBA games, Sega MD games
Camera: Dual Camera (Front: 0.3M pixels, Back: 2.0M pixels)
On line video: Supports Flash (Youtube, TED mobile, BBC news etc)
TV out: mini-HIMI output
Accelerometer: Yes
Audio: Stereo speakers + headphone jack
Dimensions: 238.5x121.7x12.35mm - 16.0oz
Manufacturer's product page
Rooting / Google Market install instructions (thanks jutley)
Firmware update/restore instructions - Note that the S7100 is available in either a resistive or (slightly more expensive) capacitive touchscreen version. The ROMs for these two versions are not intercompatible. Make sure you get the correct update. (thanks blokenfeffer)
Starfox 64 demo:
More information will be added as it becomes available.
Quick walkthrough on how to replace the stock emulators on the S7100.
Disclaimer as usual: everything here is at your OWN RISK.
I'll be using Gensoid as an example, as this emulator refused to launch for me out of the box.
Requirements:
Rooted S7100.
File explorer with root permissions.
Gensoid replacement.
1) Once your device is rooted, you'll need to grab a file explorer. The explorer I use is ES File Explorer.
2) Download Gensoid. For this example, place this on the root of your SD card. As long as you can find this file in ES Explorer, it doesn't really matter where you put it.
Instructions:
Launch ES File Explorer, press the menu button and change the following options:
Change Home Directory to /
Check Root Explorer to enabled
Check Mount File System to enabled
Back out of the settings and navigate to the following directory:
/system/app
Long press on Gnes4droid.apk and rename it to Gnes4droid.apkbak
Navigate to /system/libs/ and rename the folder Gnes4droid to Gnes4droidbak
Now power off the S7100 and power it back up again, if you do not power off installation in the next step will fail.
Launch ES File Explorer again and find the APK for Gensoid that you downloaded previously and press it. It should now offer to install the application, follow the on screen steps and you should have successfully replaced the preloaded version of Gensoid.
Any games you have should still autmoatically launch from the Game Center icons and the MD lists, but adds the advantage of having a launcher icon for the emulator itself, should you wish to customise your device with another launcher.
This should work for any preloaded emulator that you wish to replace with a previous version. Do NOT delete the other emulators just incase you want to revert.
If you have any issues, you can always undo the renaming operations above.
I ordered one of these things a few weeks ago, and finally got it in the mail, but it doesn't boot; it sits at a blank white screen. Any thoughts?
nsigma said:
I ordered one of these things a few weeks ago, and finally got it in the mail, but it doesn't boot; it sits at a blank white screen. Any thoughts?
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Tried booting into recovery and loading factory defaults? I read about someone who had a similar issue.
Which website did you buy it from?
If factory defaults don't work you could also try downloading f/w above and reloading it.
To get into recovery (courtesy of Jutleys via apad forum):
Press and hold the Menu button, keep the Menu button pressed and now press the Power on button. The "upgrading please wait" message will be displayed.The menu will be displayed. Use the Volume + and - buttons to navigate the menu options.From the menu you can perform the following functions:Wipe data/factory reset.Yes-delete all user data.Wipe cache partition.Wipe media storage partition.Apply SD-card update.zip.
From the menu choose "Apply SD-card update.zip" select the option using the Back button. Wait while the tablet reflashes. Ensure the battery is fully charged or the power cable is connected before starting the reflash process. After the reflash is complete. Press the Back button to reboot the tablet.
I just ordered one of these. Sounds perfect since I am delevoping games for Android, and this is a mix of everything Android it seems.
I got just about all Emulators for Android, so I hope to test how well they will work on this. Amiga, C64, almost all Segas, most Nintendo, DosBox and Playstation 1. I just worry that it might be too low quality and won't work at all.
nsigma said:
I ordered one of these things a few weeks ago, and finally got it in the mail, but it doesn't boot; it sits at a blank white screen. Any thoughts?
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Just posted a reply to you over on apad forums. It's probably not a software issue, but I've posted a screenshot on that thread to see if you can get some sound out of the machine.
JXD S7100 ADW Launcher & Custom icons
Just got mine a couple days ago...
First thing i did was root, install market, and got rid of that horrible launcher it comes with, replaced it with ADW, and i also made a few custom icons for games and emulators, still working on more. Heres a pic
SwayProductions said:
Just got mine a couple days ago...
First thing i did was root, install market, and got rid of that horrible launcher it comes with, replaced it with ADW, and i also made a few custom icons for games and emulators, still working on more.
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When u say u got rid of the launcher, can u completely remove it or just use adw instead?
Reason bring is I installed go launcher but the original still resides.
Also do u know how to get rid if the Chinese market and crap? I replaced some default emulators with new versions by renaming originals in system/app folder but can't see anything fire the Chinese stuff.
I did not completely remove it but I beleive you can use titanium backup, I used it to remove all the Chinese apps and everything else I didn't need
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
wozz9192 said:
When u say u got rid of the launcher, can u completely remove it or just use adw instead?
Reason bring is I installed go launcher but the original still resides.
Also do u know how to get rid if the Chinese market and crap? I replaced some default emulators with new versions by renaming originals in system/app folder but can't see anything fire the Chinese stuff.
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Wouldn't be wise to remove their launcher entirely. If you use an alternative launcher though, you can set it as the default launcher which effectively does the same thing anyway.
Settings > applications > all > launcher > clear defaults on "Launch by default".
Next time you press HOME, it will ask you which app to use as your default launcher, set it to Go Launcher and it'll be the default launcher from boot.
To reverse this if you have any issues, repeat the steps above and select Go Launcher to clear defaults, instead of launcher.
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SwayProductions said:
Just got mine a couple days ago...
First thing i did was root, install market, and got rid of that horrible launcher it comes with, replaced it with ADW, and i also made a few custom icons for games and emulators, still working on more. Heres a pic
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Nice looking homescreen, you should post up any other changes you make
JXD s7100 Bluetooth Support?
Does anyone know if this device supports Bluetooth? I read on another forum that there is a firmware upgrade for the resistive screen model that has Bluetooth in the caption. If the device does have Bluetooth, does this mean it's only in the resistive screen model? Maybe only later releases of the device received the Bluetooth capability (resistive and capacitive)? Thanks for any information.
breakingpoint72 said:
Does anyone know if this device supports Bluetooth? I read on another forum that there is a firmware upgrade for the resistive screen model that has Bluetooth in the caption. If the device does have Bluetooth, does this mean it's only in the resistive screen model? Maybe only later releases of the device received the Bluetooth capability (resistive and capacitive)? Thanks for any information.
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There seems to be a few different models out there and seemingly one of them has bluetooth. I'm not aware of where this model is being sold though, as almost nobody seems to have a bluetooth enabled model.
My capacitive model doesn't have bluetooth and looking at the restive models other users have, theirs don't have it either.
Fairly sure this isn't a stock upgrade for later releases though, rather another SKU.
JXD s7100 Bluetooth support?
blokenfeffer said:
There seems to be a few different models out there and seemingly one of them has bluetooth. I'm not aware of where this model is being sold though, as almost nobody seems to have a bluetooth enabled model.
My capacitive model doesn't have bluetooth and looking at the restive models other users have, theirs don't have it either.
Fairly sure this isn't a stock upgrade for later releases though, rather another SKU.
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Thanks Blokenfeffer for the information.
One thing I find that is strange though. The following sites list that it does have Bluetooth. Sorry I could not link to the entire URL. The forum has yet to give me the privilege to do so.
ownta.com
lettouch.com
r4shop.co.uk
Do you think that this is an error on their part? They have had this same information on their site since the launch of the device.
breakingpoint72 said:
Thanks Blokenfeffer for the information.
One thing I find that is strange though. The following sites list that it does have Bluetooth. Sorry I could not link to the entire URL. The forum has yet to give me the privilege to do so.
ownta.com
lettouch.com
r4shop.co.uk
Do you think that this is an error on their part? They have had this same information on their site since the launch of the device.
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It's possibly an error, or they could have the bluetooth model. Mine has bluetooth sharing running in the background, but there's no bluetooth hardware in the machine that I'm aware of.
There are definitely 3 different firmware revisions on the JXD site though, including bluetooth and none bluetooth versions.
JXD s7100 Bluetooth Support?
blokenfeffer said:
It's possibly an error, or they could have the bluetooth model. Mine has bluetooth sharing running in the background, but there's no bluetooth hardware in the machine that I'm aware of.
There are definitely 3 different firmware revisions on the JXD site though, including bluetooth and none bluetooth versions.
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Thanks again, blokenfeffer. That answers my question to why I saw a picture on JXD's website with the Bluetooth symbol running in the notification bar. It must have just been running in the software, yet it does not have the actual hardware to support it. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if the new units coming out have Bluetooth or not.
Mine definitely does not have bluetooth. Interestingly, it thinks it has GPS, but even after spending 10 very cold minutes outside with the device pointed at the sky, I could not get a single satellite signal. So I suspect that radio is not present either.
Lots of tinkering!
I have been following this thread since its introduction and appreciate all the tips and tricks that have been very helpful. I thought I would add my findings to the thread.
I finally got current location working in the browser and on wifi.
After countless try's I have found a reliable networklocation.apk that works..
- 1 First you must be rooted
- 2 In order to get it to work google search tiadroid6.1 and its the first link that pops up.
- 3 Extract the file networklocation.apk and using (es file explorer or similiar app) and add it to your /system/apps folder
- 4 shutdown and reboot your device
Volia! enjoy!
Things I have currently done
- Rooted/Market via visionary
- Changed boot screen
- ICS Keyboard (must have)
- Removed Badiu and all the factory launcher and junk (makes this thing pretty snappy)
- Netflix works great
- Skype works but hangs at times
Problems I'm currently working
- factory camera app is really screwy I downloaded HDR app from the market and it appears to work fine so I'm hoping its software
When I load it I sit at a blank screen regardless of which camera I have selected. Sometimes I can get it to work by going to video and clicking the mms video option.
- GTA III boots and loads just fine plays the entire movie and will sometimes even let you play for a minute or two then crashes with an android process error
I *had* Bluetooth on mine untill I dared to update it with one of the firmware on JXD's website
UPDATE:
Fixed my camera problem and with chainfire 3D most games work really well on this thing. For those that have sporadic camera issues make sure that you don't have the screen locked and that the screen rotates.
I'm crossing my fingers to get gingerbread on this device so that we can use OnLive gaming.
Also I have been messing with power profiles and am seeing better battery life in the 4+ hr range.
The charger that came with it died so I'm in the process of building another one. So more to come once I can charge this thing!
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Amon_Re
Quick question about your bluetooth. Did you actually have it working? If so have you taken apart to get the BT chip info by chance to try and recover that functionality?
CrazylegsFE said:
Quick question about your bluetooth. Did you actually have it working? If so have you taken apart to get the BT chip info by chance to try and recover that functionality?
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Well, I could turn it on & off, it seemed to be responding properly, was going to test some bluetooth gadgets after the firmware upgrade but alas...
I haven't taken the thing apart yet, I'm mailing back & forth with JXD at the moment to see if they can help, if that fails though I probably will take it apart.
Z1 (brand unknown) is wrist watch phone with Android OS. It was first released in 4/2012 and it is Android 2.2.1. It has WiFi, AGPS, GSM/EDGE, 2 MP camera, mic, speaker, loudspeaker, capacitive touchscreen, display of 320x240, SDHC & SIM card slots etc.
As most Chinese phones it has SoC from MediaTek, MT6516 (armv5).
See my Czech review for photos: http://hodinky.blog.mobilmania.cz/2012/06/z1-hodinko-telefon-s-androidem/
Tweaks/tips for stock ROM (2.2.1)
Market/Google Play is missing in stock rom but it cam be added if you follow instructions on the page: http://www.ibuygou.com/p-z1_smart_android_2_2_watch_phone_gps_wifi_bluetooth_html-3638-usd.html (included in Clean ROM)
Default DPI is 120 however most controls are too small. Change it to 160 which will make all icons sharp. (included in Clean ROM)
Typing on tiny QWERTY soft keyboard is a pain, Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier. (included in Clean ROM)
To enter engineering mode, dial *#*#8787#*#*
ADWLauncher EX works even better if you (see):
Disable all animations including scrolling homescreen
Disable dockbar and use swipe up instead (included in Clean ROM)
4x3 icon layout for home screen and 5x2 for drawer (included in Clean ROM)
Use something like Extended controls for toggles
Use No Lock if you don't need swipe to unlock feature.
Remove alternative Chinese markets and Chinese network account/sync providers from /system/app (included in Clean ROM)
Creating flashable dump
Use MT6516 BackUpTool for dumping your stock rom.
Use MTK_Rom_Studio_1.0.0a for converting dump into flashable format.
Flashing
Basically you need the driver: "MT6516_YuSu_USB_VCOM.inf" and flashing tool: "SP Flash Tool v1.1110". All tools can be found on the internet when searching for "MT6516 flash tools". The only necessary tools reuploaded can be found also here. (I'm not sure about the legality of these tools though.)
You have to use 32 bit Windows (I only tried XP in both VirtualBox and VMware but it could work with 32 bit Vista or 7).
Power off the watch, connect it directly to PC (no USB hub or extention cable) - new device will connect for few seconds - use it to install the driver. Unplug watch. (You may retry that few times because the watch disconnect within few seconds) Open flashing tool and select files to flash (I would recommend not to flash anything other than boot/recovery/system/data/logo), hit start and quickly connect the watch - flashing will start automatically.
Recovery
First build of ClockworkMod 5.0.2.8 seems to be working however all its features were not tested yet!
Recovery can be flashed with "SP Flash Tool" (use provided scatter file).
Rebooting to recovery from launched Android using "reboot recovery" works but I wasn't able to find working button shortcut to launch recovery directly from cold start. Please help me if you find a way!
Custom Clean ROM based on stock 2.2.1
Features
Removed alternative Chinese markets and Chinese (social) network accounts
Integration of Google apps (sync, Google Play, setup wizard etc)
DPI changed to 160 which makes the watch easier to control and the icons sharper
Preconfigured ADW Launcher, Flit keyboard
Includes root with Superuser, Busybox binaries
Minor clean-ups
So far this ROM doesn't include anything power user from XDA wouldn't be able to customize but this ROM is afford to save other users time with experiments.
Important notes:
Backing up your current ROM + data is highly recommended (use the above listed MT6516 BackUpTool)
The seller says you shouldn't do factory reset because of IMEI lost - I can't confirmed that - IMEI is kept even during factory resets so it doesn't seem to be stored in user data partition. BUT backup your current ROM anyway cause I might be wrong.
Clean ROM notes:
The first boot is slow. After the first boot, I recommend not touching the watch for 5-10 minutes because dalvik cache is rebuilding in the background and the setup wizard may lag a lot.
The default ADW launcher is configured to not have app drawer button - swipe up to open drawer
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - Bottom row of button in Dialer is smaller, however all buttons can be pressed
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - Superuser (root) confirmation dialog buttons aren't readable however the buttons are partly visible and can be pressed (press bottom left button to allow root acces)
Known issue (to be fixed later): Because of DPI change - There is small graphical glitch on the lock screen which however doesn't break anything
Flashing recovery is not needed at all. Just make sure you flash both partitions (it will erase all your data on the watch but not on SD). Follow instructions above on how to flash.
ROM download: http://www.multiupload.nl/3LHJ33CW95
or http://www.multiupload.nl/JK6NOATJ57
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WIP, first build of CyanogenMod 7 (2.3.7) booted so I continue testing/evaluating. So far I only used stock kernel but I have source for MT6516 kernel.
Notes: WiFi chip - MediaTek MT5921 - no open source driver
Currently on hold.
Proofs
Flit Keyboard
moneytoo said:
Typing on tiny QWERTY soft keyboard is a pain, Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier.
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I actually have bought 3 Z1's and virtual keyboard is REALLY a pain..
Flit Keyboard makes entering text much easier ! !
Just Eight ( 8 ) >> Huge << Buttons Keyboard..
..that By Easily Sliding You Can Type:
>> All << Alphanumeric Characters And Symbols ! !
No More Accidentally Typing Wrong Characters ! !
Perfect 5..
(this Should Have Been THE Number One Android Keyboard..)
Thanks moneytoo ! !
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Z1 Android Watch-Phone
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z1_Android_Watch-Phone
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Ive been thinking about buying the watch to use as a mp3 player, would you recomend it?
Sent from my NWZ-Z1000Series using xda app-developers app
Yes, I'm plugging my website, but hey, it's relevant.
I've just reviewed this device at:
http://linuxslate.com/Review_Z1_Android-2.2-Watch.html
Everything in this thread has been helpful, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.
DPI at 160 looks great. Unfortunately many apps will not fit, including keyboard, phone, and superuser prompt. Either find alternate keyboard and set superuser to auto-grant, or switch back and forth between 120 and 160 as necessary.
I like No Lock, but I find the phone wake-locking all the time until I turned No Lock off. I also like the fact that the time is there in big letters on the lock screen. It's very suitable for its watch functionality.
I did a manual backup without rooting (No need for Z4 Root)
Download and unrar MT6516 BackUpTool, but do not install anything.
On the Linux/Mac box, open the gscript folder, and open back22.sh in editor, or viewer.
Connect the watch via USB, and connect via adb shell
Cut, paste and execute each line from the back22.sh file
up to and including the last dd command in the first section - in other words
Code:
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dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd11 of=/sdcard/backup_/expdb.img
Obviously, you don't do the comment lines.
exit the shell
Code:
exit
do:
Code:
adb remount
Install yaffs2image:
Code:
adb push <your_path_on_PC_to>/Install/BackUp/yaffs_back_2.2/gen/mkyaffs2image /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
Code:
adb shell chmod 4777 /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
(Again, the above is a cut and paste from the script)
Code:
adb remount
(for safety)
Code:
adb shell
Then cut and paste the remaining 3 mkyaffs2img commands.
Then:
Code:
exit
Copy the backup_ folder on the SD car to someplace safe.
If you want, you can remove mkyaffsimg:
Code:
adb remount
Code:
adb shell rm /system/bin/mkyaffs2image
Code:
adb remount
It's definitely more steps, but it leaves the system technically un-touched, un-rooted, and even returnable if you should have to.
Some more useful apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinsoft.android.orientcontrol
Orientation control to lock the screen in landscape mode; not free but worth it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=itosisato.setsunasato.kokoroduyosato
Home button for soft home button in notification tray. Free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock
Off button in notification tray. Free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.android
Opera mini has server side compression so makes best use of the slow 3g speed, but no multitouch so zooming is difficult.
m34n1ng said:
Ive been thinking about buying the watch to use as a mp3 player, would you recomend it?
Sent from my NWZ-Z1000Series using xda app-developers app
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It can be done, but the MotoActv might be better, because the motoactv has a headphone jack so you can use any headphones you want. On the Z1, you have to use bluetooth headphones or a bluetooth headphone adapter.
I just ordered one of these last week, should have arrived today ... glad to see this exists!
Other than configuration/display-size issues, does everything work, i.e. all hardware? I noticed you had a note about the Wifi driver not being open source, but I assume that more effects if you try the MT6516 kernel. Even if it's a closed binary, I assume you could still load it and use it though. I'm not expecting any leaps and bounds in the kernel department.
As for CWM, is any part of it executed at cold boot? If so, I imagine you'd need to implement some kind of timeout menu that could optionally enter recovery before booting the watch. This is similar to what was implemented on the Kindle Fire which also doesn't have a normal stock recovery mode.
I assume you're still evaluating CM7 so you're not ready to distribute it ... but I do hope to see more from you soon, especially a HOWTO and download links!
I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand. Proper integration of Google apps, Chinese apps/account providers removed, tweaked launcher/drawer settings, tweaked global dpi/dpi of apps that not fit...
To have at least something, I give you very simple app "Z1 Backlight Toggle" apk (attached in 1st post) which can turn off completely display backlight. (Needs root) I use it on my bike when I have navigation running all the time cause it indeed saves battery and backlight isn't needed at all under direct sunlight, the display is readable the same.
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I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
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That's fine, I understand how frustrating these things can be. But still, can you post information about how to backup / restore the firmware and how to flash a custom ROM? I might try playing with it myself sometime and at least having the knowledge would enable further experimentation.
WTF!!!! a wrist phone with Android OS.... This is so freaking cool!!! :thumbup:
Awesome......
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moneytoo said:
I spent many nights trying to make GSM or WiFi working. Except few tweaks I only got the modem to start but nothing more. I have no experience with porting of binary drivers and this device has so many of them. Radio/modem and kernel modules - there are no problems with them but there are just too many dependencies on proprietary libs even from standard android native binaries.
So I'm giving up. At least for now cause I just don't have enough knowledge.
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I have an idea ... if we can get the MTK6516 kernel to build and boot, that's one step. If we can then get Android 2.2 stock to build, and then compare it against an image of the Z1's file system, we should, in theory, be able to identify all the unique areas of the watch's Android setup. If we at least know how to build an identical watch Android from source we should be able to extend that into making Cyanogen Mod work ... or something else. I think it's worth a shot anyway!
Also for an identical kernel, there shouldn't be any need to "port" binary drivers ... ideally they're built-in or load as modules, same as any other drivers.
I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand.
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You're probably right there will be very limited demand. So I ask again, if you can at least post steps about reflashing the watch, I'll give it my best shot. I just want to be sure I can restore the watch after messing around with it. Which I'm guessing you were able to since you didn't claim any permanent damage. It seems it should be able to go into a factory restore mode which I hope will override any messed up systems.
lokeshsaini94 said:
WTF!!!! a wrist phone with Android OS.... This is so freaking cool!!! :thumbup:
Awesome......
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It really is neat. Kind of limited, but really neat. I think if we can get any amount of control over the kernel and Android version, we can really extend the abilities of the watch. It just needs a chance...
southbird said:
I have an idea ... if we can get the MTK6516 kernel to build and boot, that's one step. If we can then get Android 2.2 stock to build, and then compare it against an image of the Z1's file system, we should, in theory, be able to identify all the unique areas of the watch's Android setup. If we at least know how to build an identical watch Android from source we should be able to extend that into making Cyanogen Mod work ... or something else. I think it's worth a shot anyway!
Also for an identical kernel, there shouldn't be any need to "port" binary drivers ... ideally they're built-in or load as modules, same as any other drivers.
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In my opinion there's no problem with kernel, modules or libraries, we can just reuse them. The real issue I think is native android binaries such as wpa_supplicant or rild. We can either use (original) already built binaries or build new ones - but this is the problem... Original binaries depend on proprietary libraries so they "do something" important with devices. Newly build binaries just don't have that unknown functionality. Yes, reusing stock binaries might work for 2.2 but my only target so far was 2.3 since that would be real benefit for us.
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So I ask again, if you can at least post steps about reflashing the watch, I'll give it my best shot.
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Have a look here: http://bm-smartphone-reviews.blogspot.cz/2011/02/mtk-hd2-hd9-flashing-tutorial.html
Basically you need the driver: "MT6516_YuSu_USB_VCOM.inf" and flashing tool: "SP Flash Tool v1.1110". You have to use 32 bit Windows (I only tried XP in both VirtualBox and VMware but it could work with 32 bit Vista or 7 as well).
Power off the watch, connect it directly to PC (no USB hub or extention cable) - new device will connect for few seconds - use it to install the driver. Unplug watch. Open flashing tool and select files to flash (I would recommend not to flash anything other than boot/recovery/system/data/logo), hit start and quickly connect the watch - flashing will start automatically.
moneytoo said:
To have at least something, I give you very simple app "Z1 Backlight Toggle" apk (attached in 1st post) which can turn off completely display backlight. (Needs root) I use it on my bike when I have navigation running all the time cause it indeed saves battery and backlight isn't needed at all under direct sunlight, the display is readable the same.
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Which navigation software are you using?
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Which navigation software are you using?
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No idea what he's using, but I'll say that Sygic worked when NOT navigating (doing a route caused it to force close, I'm guessing possibly out of memory??) Using OsmAnd works pretty well ... of course, it's Open Street Map with all the usual limitations.
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Which navigation software are you using?
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I use RMaps (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robert.maps&hl=en) with collection of offline maps and prepared tracks for navigation.
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No idea what he's using,
but I'll say that Sygic worked when NOT navigating
(doing a route caused it to force close, I'm guessing possibly out of memory??)
Using OsmAnd works pretty well ... of course, it's Open Street Map
with all the usual limitations.
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Sygic 10 works nice with Z1 using 3D maps.
Sygic 12 works nice with Z1 using 2D maps.
When attempting to navigate Sygic 12 with 3D maps enabled,
the Sygic 12 crashes and Z1 returns to Home screen.
Correction..
Sygic 12 works nice with Z1 using 3D maps
only when Autozoom is turned off:
Settings > Map > Autozoom [untick]
ff
I consider making custom rom based on stock Android but I don't know if there would be any demand. Proper integration of Google apps, Chinese apps/account providers removed, tweaked launcher/drawer settings, tweaked global dpi/dpi of apps that not fit...
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That is exactly what needs to be done! If porting the binaries is not possible at the moment, why not go ahead with building with stock android, with proper google account and apps, and removing the chinese accounts.
Once you have tweaked launcher/drawer, tweaked dpi of apps that not fit etc done, it would be almost as good as running CM7. Any improvement would be a big improvement
I sincerely hope that you continue development, the demand for a stock ROM is sure to come as the device becomes more popular, as of now, there is nobody developing for Z1, that i know of.
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That is exactly what needs to be done! If porting the binaries is not possible at the moment, why not go ahead with building with stock android, with proper google account and apps, and removing the chinese accounts.
Once you have tweaked launcher/drawer, tweaked dpi of apps that not fit etc done, it would be almost as good as running CM7. Any improvement would be a big improvement
I sincerely hope that you continue development, the demand for a stock ROM is sure to come as the device becomes more popular, as of now, there is nobody developing for Z1, that i know of.
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I started cooking custom ROM based on the stock two days ago and I'm very happy with it. Proper integration of setup wizard, google apps, keyboard, dpi, orientation, better preconfigured launcher, working voice search etc.
Hello all,
I have installed lollipop when it came out, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Then I reinstalled a bunch of apps I use (games, apps, utilities) - all from scratch to make sure that old setting and such do not interfere.
All seems to be fine (smooth, fast) - only some apps do not seem to work - however, in some cases (when for example opening Chrome) I see huge slowdowns...
Anyone else experienced this? How do I find out what is causing it? How do I fix it?
Thank you for any suggestions
Un-install Facebook. I was about to revert to Kit Kat, but I figured I would wipe and re-install. I noticed slowdown when I installed Facebook, so I nuked it and my tablet is butter smooth now.
The Facebook app destroyed lollipop performance on my Nexus 7 too. This is not a Shield issue, it's a Facebook/lollipop issue.
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Wow. I had facebook installed but not even logged into, and i saw dramatic reduction in stutters and pauses when i uninstalled it.. how facebook, how?!
Thank you all. I do not use facebook. Any other possible reasons?
Applications I have installed are foldermount, adaway, titanium backup .... Could those cause this?
I also don't have Facebook installed and get some hang ups, especially when a system animation is about to occur (opening an app, going home, etc).
I'm rooted as well, with foldermount, adaway, ultimate backup (jrummys titanium), and a slew of other games and stuff. I didn't really think it would be an app issue. But maybe. I'll get rid of a few apps I have on my phone and see if I notice a difference.
Tip for optimizing Chrome
Follow the link and chrome problem will be solved i was amazed by the difference it made -link-http://www.techrepublic.com/article/pro-tip-speed-up-chrome-on-android-with-this-handy-hack/
Sarge29490 said:
Follow the link and chrome problem will be solved i was amazed by the difference it made -link-http://www.techrepublic.com/article/pro-tip-speed-up-chrome-on-android-with-this-handy-hack/
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Thank you. I tried that - and it makes no difference. And the problem is not just with Chrome, as I experience (more or less random) slowdowns elsewhere too. I am a bit disappointed with this whole new Lollipop experience. On one hand it is (much) smoother than Kitkat was, on the other hand I get slowdowns, incompatibilities etc. which I never experienced with Kitkat
Well I have LTE version, i am rooted with philz recovery locked bootloader and orginal kernel, i use Seeder (find it on playstore) and weekly clear cache and dalvic/art cache, have no lags and slowdowns on lollipop, if there are, they are so rare that i dont notice any more.
Did you factory rest after the update? Cause i read somewhere that already installed apps have issues with lollipop so fresh install is recommended, i also have no issues with facebook either...
And also did you try changing processor mode to max performance in Shield power control under battery menu from optimized.
I must also mention the battery times have improved alot compared to kitkat...
Sarge29490 said:
Well I have LTE version, i am rooted with philz recovery locked bootloader and orginal kernel, i use Seeder (find it on playstore) and weekly clear cache and dalvic/art cache, have no lags and slowdowns on lollipop, if there are, they are so rare that i dont notice any more.
Did you factory rest after the update? Cause i read somewhere that already installed apps have issues with lollipop so fresh install is recommended, i also have no issues with facebook either...
And also did you try changing processor mode to max performance in Shield power control under battery menu from optimized.
I must also mention the battery times have improved alot compared to kitkat...
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Thank you - I will try your suggestion (I did a factory reset).
For now I have another (larger) problem to solve - apps moved to the SD card disappear...
Gadgetguy2005 said:
Thank you - I will try your suggestion (I did a factory reset).
For now I have another (larger) problem to solve - apps moved to the SD card disappear...
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Try this thread:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/major-issue-apps-sd-card-dissappear-t2950126
edit: oh i see you already did...
Try going into Google play disable notification and select do not auto update apps
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Sdcard can make your shield slow. My Samsung 64go uhs-1 makes my shield slow if inserted with exfat , but no problem with NTFS and a 64kb cluster size.
Judge584 said:
Sdcard can make your shield slow. My Samsung 64go uhs-1 makes my shield slow if inserted with exfat , but no problem with NTFS and a 64kb cluster size.
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Thanks, I'll have to try with a re-format.
Tablet is stock, not rooted and boorloader locked. I sideloaded the lollipop OTA on my LTE version and i experience the same issue.
It flies most of the time but sometime, especially when downloading or updating apps from Play store or opening random apps like Skype or even hangouts the tablet will come to a crawl.
I think this is a lollipop issue which nvidia need to address with an update.
I have to say on 4.x the tablet was unbearably slow at times and it didnt seem to be related to any specific app. After installing lollipop fresh and clean everything is really smooth, except Chrome. When i open Chrome and start navigating i see things slow down to being unresponsive for 30-60 seconds at a time and immediately working if i close Chrome. I also have a Nexus 5 with Lollipop and no such issues there. I did install facebook so ill try removing that. Ill give the optimization thread a peak too and see if that works.
Im impressed overall with the Shield tablet, but its a blemish that general web browsing is faster on CM11 on my Kindle Fire HD (original). Maybe Nvidia will come out with a fix, or someone here will pin point the exact cause.
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I have to say on 4.x the tablet was unbearably slow at times and it didnt seem to be related to any specific app. After installing lollipop fresh and clean everything is really smooth, except Chrome. When i open Chrome and start navigating i see things slow down to being unresponsive for 30-60 seconds at a time and immediately working if i close Chrome. I also have a Nexus 5 with Lollipop and no such issues there. I did install facebook so ill try removing that. Ill give the optimization thread a peak too and see if that works.
Im impressed overall with the Shield tablet, but its a blemish that general web browsing is faster on CM11 on my Kindle Fire HD (original). Maybe Nvidia will come out with a fix, or someone here will pin point the exact cause.
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For me, web browsing in general has been a pain, many browsers don't seem to work well on our hardware. They all feel somewhat sluggish. And flash has been very picky for me... I think it is finally dying, haha.
Get rid of Facebook if you have it and try this for chrome
http://www.omgchrome.com/improve-chrome-android-memory/
Lastpass?
Do you happen to use LastPass? I found that, upon a fresh install, everything worked great until I installed LastPass. The way that they set up autofill in lollipop seems to hang up the whole system. When I disabled "Enable fill service" in the settings, the tablet was blazing fast again.
After playing with it, I found that I still got decent performance while still being able to leverage the best part of the app by enabling the fill service and disabling the helper and scanning for password fields.
A little app called cache cleaner can do wonders? and a simple reboot also helps a lot.
Btw. im using Yandex Browser for now untill BoatHD gets the lollipop update and it works really well on the Shield with 5.0
So I got my Nvidia Shield a while back. The first thing I did when getting it was installing all the updates. Eventually after the final update was installed, I did a full factory reset of the device.
I have hardly any apps installed besides the essential Google applications, but my Nvidia Shield still feels remarkably slow. Chrome is practically unusable, and switching between apps is not a pleasant experience at all. That said, benchmarks and games perform wonderfully, which has me a bit puzzled. There doesnt seem to be any problems with memory leaks as there is plenty of RAM available. I do tend to restart it quite often just to see if it makes a difference, but I doesnt really feel like it has much of an impact.
Does anyone here have similar issues at all? I have worked with Android quite a bit and never have I experienced a system run Android so much worse than you would expect given the hardware specifications. My Nexus 10 feels a lot more snappy in general use.
Thanks for any help
All I can say is that I have a similar experience to you, although I have quite a lot of applications installed. I don't have any solutions for you, only to wait and hope that nvidia optimises the software for the hardware in the next update (Android 5.1 hopefully)
It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
I've had this problem too.
I just turned off battery saver. It got too low, automatically turned on and I didn't realize but when I turned it off, it got way faster.
albertorodast2007 said:
It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
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The Lollipop memleak bug is pretty easy to detect though and that's not what's causing the performance issue on the Shield Tablet. At least not in my case. While I would normally be the first to unlock my bootloader and port CM to my new device, I would want to keep my tablet stock.
Im glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing issues so Im going to assume that there's nothing specifically wrong with my device in particular. I guess Ill give Nvidia one more chance to rectify performance issues with their next update, otherwise I'm selling the tablet and buying a Nexus 9 or something else.
I have the same experience. I have flashed the latest recovery image, unlocked and rooted. I have disabled apps I don't need and does not have a lot of apps installed. It is unbelievable slow. Like stated above Chrome is almost useless and switching apps is painful. I am using my Nexus 10 too, the Shield tablet will collect dust until there is a fix released.
If I have the time I will try flashing CM12 but I rather stay stock.
You should give it a shot...
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
albertorodast2007 said:
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
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This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
danjull said:
Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
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I have it rooted, with xposed, and a lot of apps. I may try CM over the weekend.
NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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And GRID also works fine. The only deal breakers (and the ones every dev is working hard to make em work on AOSP) are console mode and the controller wireless pairing.
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jasonpctech said:
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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That's contradictory. I have a really tiny LMK value for foreground apps (foreground= 8mb, Visible=16, secondary=32, hidden=64, content provider=96, empty=128 ) so apps in the foreground are killed only if system goes under 8mb of free ram, and have no lag, but I'm on CM12.1. So I really don't know how this is working but I'm glad for you. Although it may drain your battery faster BC android is killing apps as soon as they go to the foreground to keep that amount of free ram and is using more CPU cycles to load them back when you need them again, that's what I get. But anyone with more knowledge maybe could guide us why this is working???
Interesting, it's working but I didn't even try any other variables. I will try your settings and get back. Needless to say battery life is next after usability.
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Ok tried your suggestion verbatim. It immediately was back in useless mode as I have been calling it. Without a reboot it took me at least 15min to get back to here. Still could not type so minmanged back to previous settings and its running. Weird.
My test would have been run Facebook, chrome & this app with poweramp music. Never got halfway before it got all James May on me. Are we running the same tablet? Any thoughts on why we could have opposed settings and get different successful results.
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Also when it slows down it gets warmer the settings I'm using leave it pretty cool in comparison.
I'm on stock 5.0.1, 32gb SD + internal memory almost full. I experience some lag mainly with chrome and switching app. Yestetday I tried to set the power saver to "max performance" and the everything seems much smoother..
Make sure you SD cards are formatted with NTFS. exFAT is fine for 32gb, but if you have a 64GB or higher, the card needs to be formatted in a PC using NTFS...
Don't ever let your main ram storage memory get below 500meg.
If somehow you run out of memory,, let's say sub 10megs then all manner of weird things begin to happen including reboots and app crashing. You can jam that external sd1 card full however.
I reset mine several times and tried everything I saw in these threads about the lagginess and stuff.
In the end, I found the solution. I returned the NST and exchanged it for a new iPad Mini 2 32gb Retina Screen... No really.
I love Android on the phone, but it just seems that the tablet arena isn't anywhere near as far along and sorted out yet. Buggy, almost too many options, so you wonder how much love each model gets from the manufacturer, etc... I hate to have a new tablet for $300, and the only way to get it to run the way it was supposed to run out of the box, is to void the warranty, root and install a custom ROM on it, and give up some features in the process.
I like ROMs for things that they do above and beyond the stock experience. I don't feel that I should pay that much for a device and have a ROM be a requirement just to get it to run decently...
So, for my tablet needs, I had to go to the dark side. Good luck!
I will still rock my Note 4 and don't see myself going to Apple for my phone needs any time soon, but for a general purpose tablet for Netflix, email, browsing and basic games... I agonized for hours over this but in the end I just pulled the trigger and exchanged it.