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Hi, I just registered on this forum hoping to learn the ins and outs of rooting. Been doing a lil research reading a couple of sites on the topic. Bear with me, but I feel like a complete noob cause a lot of the language is sailing straight over my head. I think I have the gist of it, but it seems a lot of the information are scattered and there's a lot of different ways to root.
I just recently got the Nexus S (Sprint's 4G version) and I have been reading some of the ROMs aren't compatible with the 4G version yet. This has me a little worried...would rooting the phone be any different since its a 4G model? I really don't want to brick my phone on my first try. Is there a comprehensive guide with easy step by step instructions on how to root this particular version of the phone?
I do agree the 4G version needs its own tab to prevent confusion since a lot of the guides here are for the regular Nexus S. Many thanks in advance.
If you look in the developers section there is a sticky at the top for the Sprint variant of the Nexus S. In it there are rooting instructions and such.
fraspas said:
Hi, I just registered on this forum hoping to learn the ins and outs of rooting. Been doing a lil research reading a couple of sites on the topic. Bear with me, but I feel like a complete noob cause a lot of the language is sailing straight over my head. I think I have the gist of it, but it seems a lot of the information are scattered and there's a lot of different ways to root.
I just recently got the Nexus S (Sprint's 4G version) and I have been reading some of the ROMs aren't compatible with the 4G version yet. This has me a little worried...would rooting the phone be any different since its a 4G model? I really don't want to brick my phone on my first try. Is there a comprehensive guide with easy step by step instructions on how to root this particular version of the phone?
I do agree the 4G version needs its own tab to prevent confusion since a lot of the guides here are for the regular Nexus S. Many thanks in advance.
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It's actually quite hard to brick the Nexus devices. The gist of it is as follows:
Boot into fastboot (hold pwr up and turn the phone one).
Fastboot oem unlock to unlock the device (this wipes)
Install a custom recovery via fastboot (fastboot flash recovery downloaded-image.img)
flash the su binary package via recovery
This is the same process for all variants of the phone - there's nothing 4G specific about it other than don't try to use an old version of CWM (the i9023 can't either).
Guides are here for the 4G though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071500
The only way you are going to brick your device is:
- Flashing a GSM radio to your CDMA device
- Pulling the battery DURING a radio flash
- Using ODIN and flashing a full rom package not meant for your device.
fraspas said:
Hi, I just registered on this forum hoping to learn the ins and outs of rooting. Been doing a lil research reading a couple of sites on the topic. Bear with me, but I feel like a complete noob cause a lot of the language is sailing straight over my head. I think I have the gist of it, but it seems a lot of the information are scattered and there's a lot of different ways to root.
I just recently got the Nexus S (Sprint's 4G version) and I have been reading some of the ROMs aren't compatible with the 4G version yet. This has me a little worried...would rooting the phone be any different since its a 4G model? I really don't want to brick my phone on my first try. Is there a comprehensive guide with easy step by step instructions on how to root this particular version of the phone?
I do agree the 4G version needs its own tab to prevent confusion since a lot of the guides here are for the regular Nexus S. Many thanks in advance.
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pretty sure I used this guide.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/17/how-to-root-the-samsung-nexus-s/
then i deleted a bunch of stuff i had no use for and am happy.
good luck
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The only way you are going to brick your device is:
- Flashing a GSM radio to your CDMA device
- Pulling the battery DURING a radio flash
- Using ODIN and flashing a full rom package not meant for your device.
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I've actually seen people unbrick after flashing the wrong radio... LOL pretty amazing.
I could really use some help please. Im using these guides to root and I've gotten the bootloader unlocked, but when I get to the part where I flash CWM recovery in the command prompt, I get a message that says:
cannot load recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-crespo
That is the file they said to download, and I inserted it into the tools section of android sdk folder. Any ideas? The unlock bootloader command worked perfectly, but Im getting stuck at this step.
EDIT: I figured out my problem. I wasn't placing the recovery file in the Platform-tools folder, I was putting it into the regular tools folder. I have my moments.
dazednconfused1144 said:
I could really use some help please. Im using these guides to root and I've gotten the bootloader unlocked, but when I get to the part where I flash CWM recovery in the command prompt, I get a message that says:
cannot load recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-crespo
That is the file they said to download, and I inserted it into the tools section of android sdk folder. Any ideas? The unlock bootloader command worked perfectly, but Im getting stuck at this step.
EDIT: I figured out my problem. I wasn't placing the recovery file in the Platform-tools folder, I was putting it into the regular tools folder. I have my moments.
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Make sure you rename the image too.
wild1z said:
Make sure you rename the image too.
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I finally got it. Worked like a charm once I figured out what I was doing wrong. Do we still have to rename the file (install-recovery.sh and rename to install-recovery.sh.bak) in root explore to make it stick? I have rebooted several times and it is still there so I was just wondering.
These are pretty great instructions, especially the link. Since Sprint shipped with version 2.3.4 of Android with the build GRJ22, do the rooting instructions still work for our model?
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I finally got it. Worked like a charm once I figured out what I was doing wrong. Do we still have to rename the file (install-recovery.sh and rename to install-recovery.sh.bak) in root explore to make it stick? I have rebooted several times and it is still there so I was just wondering.
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Got no idea. I was referring to renaming the clockwork image file. But I think you answered your own question since root has um... rooted. Cheers.
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These are pretty great instructions, especially the link. Since Sprint shipped with version 2.3.4 of Android with the build GRJ22, do the rooting instructions still work for our model?
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I rooted mine just fine. You should be good.
Which method did you use? I'm reading a lot about bootloader being unlocked/locked and some methods requiring a backup and some without. This really adds to the confusion. Then there's a Superboot method which seems a lot easier but it doesn't seem to have the GRJ22 model. I'm pretty sure its easy once I get to it, but the overwhelming information makes it extremely difficult to follow lol. Information overload.
I wanted to know if there is a way to root it yet?
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Answered many times please search...
I believe you can, but you can't use a one click root method. Everybody still says it's easy to do, but I don't quite get it. I'm not an idiot, but I just don't understand some of the stuff they say to do. Apparantly you have to "install nvflasher through clockworkmod". I see where I can download clockworkmod, but it's just a bunch of DLL files and an exe I think. Then I saw something about installing drivers and they lost me. My only guess was the drivers it installs when you plug your phone into your computer via the usb port? I don't know. Anyway, after installing the nvflasher, I guess you can just flash roms. I don't quite understand how to do that either though, lol.
Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
Mister Hat said:
Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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This.
All the instructions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 thanks to TGA_Gunnman. I understand a lot of us are new to rooting/flashing but there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
what I don't get is what to do if you only have a mac.
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Are you saying this method works on the stock Gingerbread rom? I thought SOC didn't work with GB on the G2x.
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Just a heads up...I don't think this will work. Unless SOC updated to a new version. Just search the forums use this "how to root after OTA " I recommend NVFLash CWM then if you want 2.3.3 rooted search "stock OTA rooted." Posted by xboarder. Or use a custom rom. This has been asked to many times. Yes it is possible to root some other way. That to is covered by xboarder also. Unless SOC has a new version out with in the last week it wont Work.....read post 4665. But I do have great news......the search options in the forums do work and even Google searches will direct you to xda. If you find a post about something read all of it. Then read the OP(opening post) 3 to 4 time looking at dates and change logs..
So to recap
1) SOC will not work. NVFlash clockwork.
2) use the search/Google.
3) if you read this and did not see xboarders name at least once befor this post, reread.
4) read and reread.....keep reading....the answers are posted.
5) read the OP. Look at dates and change logs.
If you don't like my response to this post go buy an iPhone. The rest of us are sick of seeing the same questions. That is all
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there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
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Well said.
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
touge_ninja said:
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
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Yeah, I might look at it again and give it a try later on. There's still a few things i'm confused about though.
I didn't know you could flash roms without rooting first. But I guess flashing a rooted rom technically does root your phone? It's just a different way of achieving root? Also, if you are gonna flash roms, I thought you had to do the nvflash routine.. which would root your phone anyway.. lol.
I believe some cases that could be true. Root could be needed to install a flash recovery. Our phone use nvidia. The nvflash utility makes it easy. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. When you nvflash you are replacing the factor/stock recovery with CWM. At that point you could put any Rom you like. I kind of see it like a boot disk. Root allows you to see system folders and such. Kind of like having admin rites on your computers operating system. Root also aloes programs to modify system information. To compare this to the common computer root is like an admin account in windows. Unroot is like a user account that companies give you on their computer. CWM is like having a boot disk. I hope I cleared that up for some one.
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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Hey I know u mean well but I would first ask doniqcc since it is his rom ya know
Root first?
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
pioneers2001 said:
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
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Yes and no, in that order. You can use nvflash to replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, such as clockworkmod recovery. Using custom recovery, you can flash any rom that's compatible with the phone. Most of the roms have superuser privileges (root) built into them.
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
brannondean09 said:
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
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Huh? The info has been on this board for weeks how to do that already.
Thanks for the help everyone, I get it now!
Hey everyone, I just want to let you all know that I was able to do the NVFlash, backup everything, and install CM7.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK I WAS WORRIED ABOUT!!!! It was so incredibly easy.
CM7 is installed, however I'm having issues with my APN now working and losing its information, I've posted for help on that in another thread.
Thanks again, and to those out there who worry like I did...have no fear....CWM is a neat tool, ESPECIALLY for backup of your entire phone.
Thanks.
John
I have never rooted my phone before, but would like to do so. I'm running Android version 2.3.6 can someone explain to me what to do or direct me to where I can find out how?
Go here . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526.....it has complete very clear easy to understand directions of how to root.
I was just reading that thread and I seen someone posted that a one click method would be up but I couldn't find it?
Thee acs easyroot one click does not work for 2.3.6
Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
SequinScandal said:
Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
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What answer are you expecting? I know that sounds incredibly criticizing, not my intention, I promise. I got a laugh. I'm just saying think about it.
My advice though is to watch someone do it on youtube. Even if not for your phone it will help give you an idea of the steps needed and about how long it should take (very useful if something goes wrong and you find yourself sitting and waiting and worrying about how long it is supposed to take)
If you can be patient and follow steps, I'm sure you can. Everyone has a first time.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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You might be surprised how few people research anything before posting. There was a post last week about a guy who bricked his sgsii by flashing a file for a lg Optimus. Then got mad when people said that was stupid.
You're already ahead of the curve with what research you've done.
The nice thing about odin is it's samsung specific software. There may be different details for different phones, but how you connect the phone, the file type you choose, and buttons you do and don't select will be the same. If ever in doubt ask a question. Silver03wrx is easily one of the biggest helps here, much less the rest of the community.
Just know that for now, there's no way to root without tripping your flash counter.
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So there is no way to root without modifying recovery? I would like to preserve my ability to update ota or potentially reverse the process.
You can follow those insruction with odin. The after you flash the superuser zip you can flash stock recovery tar found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943.
And fyi anytime you odin the stock firmware .tar it takes u back to complete stock . Beware though in order to be able to take ota updates u can not delete bloatware. Just freeze it. You need stock recovery and bloatware intact/frozen to be able to ota update
so with a fubar'ed flash counter, i can still receive ota updates? also, will this custom recovery alter my efs folder at all?
All u need to do is have stock recovery and all bloatware to recieve an ota.
Thanks again for your help. This is not the case with my captivate so I was a bit concerned.
ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....
garydv2002 said:
ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....
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You should use the search function of the forum. All of the questions you asked have been discussed many times and I find it hard to believe that you looked because many of the questions you asked are stickied or are still on the first page. I'm telling you this because there is a lot of information to cover on your questions (many of them could possibly have several different answers) and the easiest way for you to get all of the information you need is to look at what people have already said and done. There is even a "One Stop Shop ICS" thread that is stickied in the DEV section. Nope, I can't believe you even tried...but good luck and read as much as you can. Short-cuts will only get you a bricked phone.
well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks
ok i found the all things ics forum you were talking about so im gonna read all that info and if i still have any questions ill come back and ask. if anyone has any links to info they feel might help feel free to post them. also if you know of any better ics roms than this leaked one for the skyrocket feel free to post links on those. thanks for pointing me in the right direction now maybe i can find enough info to make up my mind on whether to flash this rom or wait for a better one or the official release.. thanks again...
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well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218
Start from the top and work your way down. If you have an I727 I would definately only research ICS on the I727 and not any other phone. As you said, they are different. You will also find that there are no 100% answers on a lot of your questions. What works on one phone might act a little different on another. That is why it is better to read and be prepared...just in case.
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will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update
garydv2002 said:
will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update
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If you use the "Odin" version (One click Odin with the ICS leak) you will need to put cwm back on your phone via Odin. If you use cwm to install one of the custom ROMS you will retain cwm. Directions on how to put cwm back on your phone can be found in the "DEV" section. If you use the ODIN method you will need to re-root anyway, I prefer Copperhed's method...again, found in the "DEV" section. Good luck.
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well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...
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well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...
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Do not try to flash TAR files through CWM. Only ZIP files (approved for flashing with cwm) can be flashed via CWM. TAR files are for ODIN. I suggest you learn more about the differences before trying anything. There are very direct and clear directions for all of this in the different XDA skyrocket sections (mostly in the "DEV" section). Do yourself a favor and take a week or two to do some reading and learning. Good luck.
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from all the reading i been doing all day from the everything ics forum its best to flash the odin one click first then flash cwm again and install your choice of custom roms [zip files] since im on gingerbread now. something with the modem and radio is giving alot of problems unless you flash the odin one click first. im gonna take your advice and do alot more reading before i decide. i had a captivate before i got the skyrocket and flashed many different versions thru odin on it but have never flashed a rom with cwm before. so odin or heimdall is not new too me just cwm. but now that i found out about cwm and the way it can backup roms ill never be without it again. its kinda like having life insurance it there if i screw up lol.. thanks for helping me and if i run across anything else im not sure about ill ask cause its better to ask than to mess it all up... ill let you know what i decide and how it turns out... thanks again
Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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garydv2002 said:
Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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You are moving in the right direction. Your next stop is "ROM flashing addiction"...enjoy (LOL).
What is your favorite ics rom? Include a link so I can check it out..
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Is there a purely stock, rooted, fully functional rom for the Relay out there? I know how to use ADB and prefer doing so as opposed to odin and other methods. Not interested in CWM either. I just need root[for firewall and backup utility reasons] and will debloat manually after installation.
The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.
I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.
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The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.
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Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...
gee one said:
I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.
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Ya, not interested in heimdall, odin and CWM methods. Just looking for a purely stock rom with stock recovery, both in the rooted state.
Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.
lexluthermiester said:
Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...
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I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.
@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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I first learned how to root on my old LG C800[My Touch Q] here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752704
I ultimately decided that I didn't like the CWM parts and looked for a way to just push the ROM and recovery to the C800. Then looked up a tutorial on how to use ADB properly[can't remember were that was] because of problems with the C800 recovery and discovered in said process, that MOST[dare I say all?] Android phones have a fastboot mode as it is part of the recovery runtime mode. This includes Samsung devices. After finally successfully installing a rooted stock recovery on the C800 I discovered the problem I was having with it was not something I could fix as it was software problem on LG's side[headphone volume issue]. Got rid of it and bought a Relay.
After finding a few different methods rooting the Relay, I decided to use the ADB method I already knew would work. I downloaded a stock rooted ROM[UVLH1, found here on XDA] and painlessly installed it using more or less same methods and procedures that were used on the C800. Installing the recovery was equally as painless. I have had zero problems with the Relay and love it. Have been curious about the update to JB though and have been looking for the aforementioned purely stock rooted ROM. Thing is I like and use a few of T-mobile's preinstalled apps so a debloated ROM is useless to me. I know which software to remove[CarrierIQ for a start] and which to freeze and prefer to do so on my own. So Gee One's rooted ROM doesn't have what's needed. I can fully value and appreciate his work though.
To answer one of your questions directly, I did not use a new bootloader. While CWM is a very handy tool, I don't ROM switch enough and haven't changed the ROM on this Relay since getting the rooted UVLH1 on it.
As for the "instigate" remark, I think the word you likely were looking for is "provoke". You are asking honest questions presented in a lucid and civilized fashion. My response to "Magamo" was invoked because he/she/it came off as a complete dolt and posting woefully inaccurate information, which not only does a dis-service to anyone reading this post, but makes himself look like a monkey diddling football.
Magamo said:
I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.
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Not trying prove anything. And it's not MY "awesome knowledge". ADB was created by, let's think.... OH ya - Google, for use on and for the Android platform. As for your proven/unproven comments, can you be any more misinformed? I've rooted 2 of my own personal phones and dozens of others for family, friends and coworkers, all using ADB. Hmmm.... Your above statement only proves you don't understand or know how to use ADB properly[if at all]. Here's a great idea for you, read a tutorial about how to use ADB and verify it yourself.
And FYI, I did read your message before you edited it, and if this is the kind of help you have to offer on regular basis, kindly DON'T in future. You have my sincerest thanks!
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Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.
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I simply used ADB to flash a pre-rooted ROM[UVLH1] to the Relay. I'm currently on 4.0.4 and would like to try 4.1.2, but need a few things you seem to have removed from the ROM you posted. If you happened to have a stock + rooted ROM, could you post it? And if you do would you all like me to post a step by step for installing it using ADB?
There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.
@lexluthermiester
I'm not seeing where this hostility toward Magamo is coming from, I'm sure he knows how to use adb as he appears to be on team apex who devs for this phone. But I still am not sure how you were able to root your relay just with adb, I guess I just wasn't able to find the method you used looking through the mytouch q thread. Again not trying to instigate or rather provoke you but could you lay it out for me, just not wrapping my head around this
And also I only know of three or so Samsung devices with fastboot capabilities, all of which are nexus devices, can you explain how to get into fastboot, this would be super cool to me, as for answering your question on stock jellybean ROM can you not just update your phone via ota or did your root method break this, thanks
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There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.
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I've posted a stock MC5 Image that's been run through simg2img on the Stock ROM thread. It's in update.zip form, it also contains a boot.img simply unzip that, and there you go. I've also posted a stock recovery in the same post.
And lexluther, you still haven't posted the steps you took. I'm still quite interested in verifying the veracity of this, considering that the stock image and kernel has adb root access disabled, so how did you enable fastboot, especially since as we all on TeamApexQ who have disassembled both the software and hardware of the relay never found a way to, hence my posts. Instead of being insulting, confrontational and provocative with me, how about you just be rational and helpful, hmmm? Saying you did it on a completely different phone by a different manufacturer is ... less than helpful.
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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Sorry mate, I would have if I'd ever seen this message. Sadly I don't have the Relay anymore, battery popped and killed the phone with it. If memory serves you needed to have a stock rom[before the update] and then pushed the rooted rom to it through adb, then letting it update itself that way, but I'm not sure as it's been so long.
demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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You may also wish to check out this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256821
demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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And/Or this one;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528752