Since I have not been able to get my hands on another TF700 in any stores yet to check, I have a question for other Infinity owners. The screen on the unit is raised about 1/16th of an inch from the housing. It's very evenly raised all around, and I have no 'creaks' or 'clicks' as others have mentioned - no movement anywhere when I press on the edges. Just wanted to check that this slightly raised screen is part of the planned design. Certainly can't lay this on its face as you'd be inviting possible scratches. Sorry, I know this question seems kind of dumb, but with all the various issues that some are having with quality control, just thought I'd throw this out there to put my mind at ease.
I just checked mine and the screen is flush top, bottom & left side.
Feels raised above on right side only due to sticker.
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Mine was slightly raised all around, but it was uniform. The only spot not raised was on the left side, where many have reported "clicking" noises when pressure is applied.
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Mine was slightly raised all around, but it was uniform. The only spot not raised was on the left side, where many have reported "clicking" noises when pressure is applied.
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Thanks. I was actually finally able to find some online pictures where I could zoom in and see that it is part of the actual design. Mine also has a very small spot on the left side where the glass is just slightly less raised, but no clicking. Hearing about all these problems people are having (besides the no OTA/Unlocking, which I also have), has me all paranoid
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Mine was slightly raised all around, but it was uniform. The only spot not raised was on the left side, where many have reported "clicking" noises when pressure is applied.
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Same with mine except the clicking area isn't depressed.
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I hate to nit-pick and I'm generally happy and relieved that I simply even got a unit, but both my left and right side are now creaky.. even the bottom is starting a bit.
I still have a week left, what should I do? Should I just return the unit and wait it out? Do anything think theres a way to stop the creaking?
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
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Ya I've read that it's fairly widespread, but does yours creak on 3/4 of the sides? or just the left side?
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define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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definitely with sound. it clicks
Nope none of that.
PS: I've had it for 2 weeks now.
Mine creaks on the 3/4 of the right side. That is if i press it/hold it hard enough. Usually I'm cradling it with both hands or having it attached to the keyboard dock, so it's not that big of a deal for me.
And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
If there is flex, then there means that there is empty space. If that's the case, why isn't the TF slimmer?!
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And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
Mine creaks on the right hand side but I generally hold it with my left hand on the back of the unit or rest it on my stomach when in portrait mode, feet up sitting in my La-Z-Boy.
Had mine for 2 weeks and don't have any creaking in any orientation.
I have quite a bit of creaking as well, along with a gap on the left-hand side of the screen. I'll probably swap mine out before my 30 days is up with Amazon, and when stock is more available. I'm hoping that's how it works out, anyways.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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Not everyone has lightbleed and even the iPad and iPad 2 had lightbleed issues, I doubt those were because of shoddy manufacturing.
Also the sharp edges are part of the design, I can't really relate to anyone complaining about the "sharp"corners since the angular bezel edge design really isn't that bad on your finger tips or hands.
Also my HTC hero has a dust spec under the screen, just because something isn't perfect in design doesn't mean it's shoddy manufacturing or cutting corners in manufacturing, it's just a flawed design.
Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not denial, my point is it's flawed design, not build quality.
Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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First off light bleeding is a fault of the LCD manufacturer. LG was at fault for the bad iPad 2 screens. Apple used both LG and Samsung, and only the LG ones had the issue quite regularly.
I don't have any plastic edges on mine. My plastic backing definitely fits inside the aluminum frame. I cannot feel any sharp edges along my back, and I'm trying to be nit picky for the sake of your argument. I have a slight creek in one spot on the right edge, that is the only build quality issue I have of all, and it is slight. My suggestion if you see separation or your plastic back is not inside the frame RMA it to Asus, or return to the store. It could be as simple of a fix of them taking it apart and putting it back together with more care.
I think the point is being missed here. I'm fine with the sharp edge -- hell, mine stays in the Asus case, I don't even feel it. The argument was whether or not build quality was compromised (and that includes parts from companies other than Asus, cost is cost), and I think it was. If you told me I could get a $400 tablet with an IPS screen, and I'd have to deal with a sharp edge and some creaking (I don't notice light bleed and I don't want to look for it because I don't want to notice it! ), I'd jump all over it. No need to get defensive, in the end it's just a piece of consumer electronics.
Without going into a long story I just bought another 300 yesterday after returning the previous one. Upon opening and inspecting it I noticed what looks like a crack along the bezel trim in the upper left corner (in landscape) Between the power and volume buttons. Its right along the bend from the side the to the top. Ive had other 300's and never saw this on any of the others. But Im not 100% sure its a crack. It might just be a joint spot that wasnt aligned right and therefore the paint doesnt cover it. Using my thumbnail I pried slightly to see if the crack opened but it doesnt. Its still secure. So can anyone else verify that they can tell that this is a joint spot?
I also noticed a few things underneath the screen, and normally this would drive me crazy, but after all these returns and exchanges Ive gotten to the point where Im accepting flaws that just shouldnt be there. Its charging now from being totally dead so Ive only gotten a glance at the powered on screen to look for light bleed, and there is one pretty noticeable spot, but it looks like it might be a keeper as far as that goes. As long as I cant see the few particles under the screen when its powered on it wont bother me too much. But if that spot is indeed a crack its definitely going back. Thanks guys
Definitely a joint spot. Holding the tablet in landscape, the bottom two corners also have similar, though less defined, "cracks", but the top right corner does not. Is it the same with yours?
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Definitely a joint spot. Holding the tablet in landscape, the bottom two corners also have similar, though less defined, "cracks", but the top right corner does not. Is it the same with yours?
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No just the power button corner for me. Pic attached.
After closer inspection I can see that all 4 corners are like that. But the one in the pic is worse. I think they just joined the pieces unevenly, and that caused the line to show up. Im just glad its not a crack.
Well, I wasn't actually referring to them as cracks (hence quotes). I could barely see the seam by the power button, and the other two seams are even less noticeable.
Are you sure you have seams in all 4 corners? Like I said, I only have seams in 3 corners (I've checked the 4th corner many times).
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Well, I wasn't actually referring to them as cracks (hence quotes). I could barely see the seam by the power button, and the other two seams are even less noticeable.
Are you sure you have seams in all 4 corners? Like I said, I only have seams in 3 corners (I've checked the 4th corner many times).
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Yea there there in all 4. But only on the edge visible from the front. Very hard to see but there. I cant believe how soft the plastic is. I can see small dents where I pushed down with my fingernail trying to see if the "crack" would move. Wont be doing that anymore.
When I hold my pad and have my thumbs on a border (where there is a minimal glass/chasis separation), i can feel (very slight, but still annoying) that they come apart slightly. English is not my primary language so it is hard to describe. It only happens when i hold in landscape and more on the left side (where micro sd and micro hdmi is).
Does anyone else have this? Is this normal or....
I was wondering if this is enough to replace tablet with another or is this something i am just too worried about
I think this is what we were discussing in relation to some reviews even before we got our devices.
Do you have a clicking sound when you press the screen? Mine bends a little in the place where the speaker is located (right side of the tablet)
Hey, as a matter of fact, I do.
So this is "normal"?
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Hey, as a matter of fact, I do.
So this is "normal"?
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In a way. It has been described in some reviews and we were discussing it here. Some notice it, some don't. I wouldn't worry about having received a faulty unit if I were you, seems like many of them has this type of clicking. Doesn't affect normal use for me, as I don't feel, hear or see it unless I want to.
Agree.
But once you know its there its hard to dismiss it.
I am currently constantly testing it
It will pass i think.
Svashtar said:
Agree.
But once you know its there its hard to dismiss it.
I am currently constantly testing it
It will pass i think.
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When you actually use the tablet, I don't think that small separation is going to change anything.
Ive been having a similar issue to this on both of the tablets I have handled... less so with my personal one. My sisters unit has a constant click just below the sd port "when the sd port is facing left in landscape". Where on my tablet it is in about the same spot, but tends go away on its own for a while.
My only guess is that a screw was not securely tightened on the frame and gives the glass just enough leeway in the area to allow it to "tap". This is the only reason I can think of for the trouble spot to be in about the same area on most affected units.
The only other reason I can think of is that the bezel "part holding the glass to the frame" at those area's has cut outs in it for the speaker and sd slot, so little or no adhesive is put there because of the small surface area and the minimal deformity's in the glass gives it just enough room to "tap" in the area when pressure is applied.
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Ive been having a similar issue to this on both of the tablets I have handled... less so with my personal one. My sisters unit has a constant click just below the sd port "when the sd port is facing left in landscape". Where on my tablet it is in about the same spot, but tends go away on its own for a while.
My only guess is that a screw was not securely tightened on the frame and gives the glass just enough leeway in the area to allow it to "tap". This is the only reason I can think of for the trouble spot to be in about the same area on most affected units.
The only other reason I can think of is that the bezel "part holding the glass to the frame" at those area's has cut outs in it for the speaker and sd slot, so little or no adhesive is put there because of the small surface area and the minimal deformity's in the glass gives it just enough room to "tap" in the area when pressure is applied.
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Noticed thus exact same behavior on mine last night. I have 60 days to return so we'll see if gets worse, right now its minor
60 days? Where did you buy it?
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60 days? Where did you buy it?
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Best buy. I'm a silver RZ member, so i can return anything within 60 days
Nice!
I have the same movement but no click. I'm also getting the movement just over the left clamp hole on the bottom of the tablet while facing up. Weird.
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Hello,
Received my Note10+ yesterday, so far love the device.
I just noticed today (this morning) on bright sun / light a gap of couple of millimeters on top of the screen.
Looks like screen is not going to the edge on top side only, is this normal?
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that gap is for the sensors and speaker
Thank you very much for your time and responding to this thread.
I am a little bit confused, isnt the speaker at the bottom?
I had Samsung S10+ until yesterday, and i do not remember seeing gap like this (its not the same phone, but, probably similar design / i might be wrong though).
Thank you
The gap in the middle 2 arrows are the cut out for the front speaker the other gaps are where the screen meets the frame sometime there bigger on different phones its hut and miss
But if it bothers you exchange it for one that fits a bit better
Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
Thanks
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Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
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I think there is a way you can test the ip rating without obviously putting it in water
Back when I had the xperia phones you could squeeze the device and check the pressure didn't rise and stay risen to indicate its water tight
Thank you again for your time.
I decided to test that gap by pouring water on it for about 20-30 seconds, no issues at all.
I will not bother with this, will just enjoy the phone.
Thanks again.
The picture link is not working. From my understanding the only small gap should be in the center where the top speaker hole is. But the left and right side of the top speaker till the corner should not have any gap. I am having the same issue. I'm going to check to see if other models are like that.
Same, should not be there.
In the end i decided to return the phone.
Upon closer inspections took some photos and judging by other demo units on display. They all have that white line gap. Some are more noticable than others. But same line can be seen. I compared 3 different phones from different stores. They all exist. It's seems like that white line looks like maybe it's the adhesive glue. The middle does not have it where the ear speaker cutout is, where the ear speaker hole ends on both side left and right white line is visible because of the extra gap on both sides and it appears that the line stops before the corner on each side of the glass on the top. It's maybe nitpicking buts it's really annoying. I checked on the S10 it's not present on that model and none I see on the Note 9 too. I checked. And since it's like white color can be visible inside the small gap line on the top where the glass meets up with the metal frame.
I actually just discovered that I can get a piece of paper down between the top of the screen and the frame on my Note 10 +!!!??? All along the top of the glass - from the top left corner to the right?
Is this what you are talking about? And will the phone still be waterproof? (There could still be a rubber membrane that prevents water from entering the insides of the phone...)
Hi, I noticed the actual cutout of the punch hole is crooked towards left by a small difference. In fact, the entire display is crooked to one side, with the left bezel being slightly thinner than the right bezel. The unequal bezels are somewhat hard to ignore.
Anyone else face this issue?
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Hi, I noticed the actual cutout of the punch hole is crooked towards left by a small difference. In fact, the entire display is crooked to one side, with the left bezel being slightly thinner than the right bezel. The unequal bezels are somewhat hard to ignore.
Anyone else face this issue?
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That's not true on my phone
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That's not true on my phone
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Thanks for the reply. I can see about half a millimeter of difference here, not too much though. However, I am not able to overlook that, especially the unequal bezels.
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Thanks for the reply. I can see about half a millimeter of difference here, not too much though. However, I am not able to overlook that, especially the unequal bezels.
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you should consider a exchange with google under warranty for product defect.... though.... I've had the same camera issue and everything works fine so I didn't bother
Same thing on Pixel 6 Pro, the camera is not quite centered in the display hole. Can't tell along the sides, my eyes are simply not sensitive enough to tell if the whole display is off centered, but I doubt it.
With regards to the camera hole, I suspect it is actually the camera that is off center from the display hole. The cameras are almost "loose" in there, held in place by pressure only. If you actually took the display off from over the camera, you would see that it can move around a bit.
You talk about 500 micrometers. That is so small I would probably have a hard time noticing that on a display that is 16.29 centimeters wide. So it only deviates 0.003%, You must have great eyesight!!
That is a very interesting method to measure accuracy. Half a millimeter on something you touch and use and look at every day, several times, is very noticeable. There's a reason phone screens never feel/are like that - tolerances are much lower than you make them out to be. Imagine if internal components were off by .5mm
I looked at phones of other brands as well, and even my earlier phone had this deviation infact, but it is even larger in that case, at more than 1 millimeter. It seems to be there in all phones, across different brands, that I have seen so far.
With curved screens the difference seems easily noticeable for some reason though.
Having seen this deviation on various phones, this is something I think I will stop noticing eventually.
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You talk about 500 micrometers. That is so small I would probably have a hard time noticing that on a display that is 16.29 centimeters wide. So it only deviates 0.003%, You must have great eyesight!!
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Your math is only off by a factor of one hundred